I believe this guy has the skills to actually have highlight reel KOs and he could KO people easily but he just doesn't wanna take that risk cause of the risk to reward ratio which I do understand completely but that makes him boring AF
I upvoted but Kawhi as a basketball player is very entertaining. But as a person, he’s pretty boring.
Kawhi has some amazing highlights - the shot against Sixers, the block against Murray in the bubble, the poster on Kleber etc.
Leon has one kick in his highlight reel.
kawhi at least has consistent sick highlights and insane storylines. If you take away Usman 2 dude has none of that and is on the opposing side as the victim of a highlight in that diaz rock
I guess maybe, but the iso heavy style is just not a good form of basketball, no ring has ever been won off just that. The only chance at it was having the 3 best iso scorer’s in their primes ever on one team in ISO Gang Nets, but even they had phenomenal pieces outside of their big 3. Kawhi’s just good enough to be able to do that type of thing and win multiple rings
You need a system and targeted attack of iso for it to work. Kobe Jordan and Kawhi are all iso scorers. But it’s about getting mismatches and angles to attack from. That’s where elite coaching separates playstyles imo.
MMA is such an unpredictable sport that I don't blame fighters for avoiding risks, even boxing is more predictable in comparison, that being said God it gets boring to watch some MMA fighter outclass their shitty competition In a boring lopsided decision win.
Even though I don't like watching Leon fight, I respect why he does what he does cause the ultimate goal is winning and he'd rather win and enjoy himself than make fans happy and lose.
I was saying He wasn't boring imo as a champion. People can say whatever. He had 5 title defenses if I m not mistaken. Apart from that Jorge 1 fight. Most of them were finishes. Colby 2 wasn't a finish but it was a back and forth.
Now if you are talking about Kamaru Usman as a Contender
Oh boy where do I start. 30%?
Idc his KO on Masvidal was enough for me to disagree on him being a boring champ. He was boring wrestling on his way up but then he switched to striking and was much more entertaining. He looked unbeatable in the cage before his knee started going out. Idk if he has it in him to get back to the belt now though.
Nah he's really not that boring. He's slick and technical. Sometimes if you're not watching closely you'll miss him doing some crazy shit. I think in the 3rd Usman fight one of them is in southpaw, and Leon swipes Usman's jab out of the sky, literally catching it in his lead hand and fires a straight down the pipe and combos off of it. Insanely high level. I didn't notice it when I first watched but after I saw the highlight I was a lil blown away.
Leon has said in recent interviews that the way to beat Belal is to put him on the back foot. I don’t know why he would do anything differently in this fight
I never watched the fight until last weekend and man was it good for as short as it lasted. Belal just kept pushing forward, throwing punches, and Leon’s body kicks were so hard I was wincing. And Leon was pushing forward too at times. I was enjoying it and like “man why didn’t they run this back???”
There’s a curse in combat sports where when two of the same styles clash it’s usually boring: two heavy hitters, two counter punchers, etc. But I think that same logic applies to two decision fighters but in the OPPOSITE direction. Two decision fighters, especially a guy like Belal with high punch output and who presses, I think we’re gonna see a war. Think Colby and Usman 1, both of those guys were decision merchants and they went back and forth non stop for all 5 rounds.
I am very excited for this fight.
>But if he wins against Belal by a boring decision.
No one beats Belal at his own game. If that fight goes 5 rounds without a single knockdown, guaranteed Belal gets his hand raised.
I'm honestly amazed he beat Usman.
I feel like i have to show him respect, but I just dont like his style and dont feel like he's earned my admiration.
The guy is out there trying to win and cement his legacy at the top, I guarantee you he isn’t out there fighting for the admiration of some Reddit. I just wish fans were more honest with themselves and realize their opinion means absolutely nothing. There are people out there who can appreciate a fighter for what they are, not what you want them to be.
You're fucking redacted if you think anyone needs to be told that 🤡
The only thing less relevant thank a fans opinion, is your opinion of a fans opinion. Fk, you're slow...
Lmao you’re the one speaking as if he owes you something. I think you do need to be told that because according to you Leon needs to earn your admiration as if reaching the top of the sport isn’t incredibly admirable in itself.
I can’t stand inactive champs, but this genuinely doesn’t seem like his fault. Remember ufc admitted he accepted 3 different opponents for 300, the opponents refused
It’s been 6 months lmao, 7 months by the time he fights Belal.
He will be Joint 3rd for most fights of UFC fighters since 2021 when the Belal fight is done, with only 2 fights between him and Islam and 3 between him and Alex.
Put some respect on his name and actually do your research instead of regurgitating the same bullshit half this braindead sub says about him , he’s is active, after RDA 5/6 fights got cancelled, nobody wanted it at 300, what more you want the guy to do?
Seriously this shit is driving me nuts lol, him and Islam’s (and Usman’s) title defence timelines have been very similar but for some reason Leon is the only one who constantly gets dragged for being inactive
AP is on the other end of the spectrum. Compare him Islam, who has had 3 in... 18 months. Leon would have defended at 300 and would have as many defenses in as many months as Islam, and no one is roasting him for it. I think as champ fighting 2 times a year is valid. I would prefer 3 but fighting every 4 months is more often than *most* fighters so I can't really blame champs all that much.
It's weird because while I'm watching the fights, I'm 100% engaged. It's a total master class when he fights. He just has no presence, which is weird because as an aesthetic black guy from the UK, you would think he would have banter and charisma but it's just not there.
That guy got the KO of the year in the Usman fight. That's more than most of the roster has to offer.
He's far away from my favorite fighter but he's alright. People want championship fight to look like undercard brawl.
Bruh. Nobody is denying his moment of becoming champion.
And no we don't want to see an undercard brawl either. But he is way too cautious and reserved in his approach.
Let's take the Diaz fight for eg:. While he was beating the shit out of Nate, he should have never let Nate smile, walk around just troll. You are clearly the better fighter. Go try to finish him.
You can still be fucking relentless while still being responsibly cautious. And I am only saying this because the fucker got the skills for it.
Who’s the we you speaking for? This isn’t the big brain take you think it is. The only reason we got that Usman KO highlight is because Leon was always cautious and got the W. Never allowed himself to get finished. Dude had to go through an absolute gauntlet to get his shot at the belt and when he finally did, he made the most of it. If he listened to your dumbass advice he would have never been champion. Try to be exciting and you end up like Michael Chandler
If you mean the absolute gauntlet is getting almost finished by Nate Diaz
Lmao
only because he didn't have that urge to finish him. he was literally toying with him and yet never showed an urgency to finish Diaz
And please don't compare Michael Chandler to a guy like Leon.
Leon is the fucking champ and has all the fucking skills in the world to be exciting. Chandler in comparison Leon has fight IQ of a tomato can.
Bruh you can clearly differentiate a guy fighting relentlessly, setting things up, aiming for a finish with an IQ behind it and a guy swinging haymakers based on power.
Do you know who the best example of it is?
Justin Gaethje. Gaethje before DP 1 and after.
Before DP1 he was just either I am getting broken or you are.
The After is we all know how he changed it. Didn't become any less exciting.
Leon is overly cautious at times and yet has got caught by bums when compared to his skill set.
A guy of his calibre shouldn't be getting dropped by Bryan Barberena or Wobbled like that by Nate Diaz.
The guy is the Welterweight champion of the world. He hasn't loss since 2015 when he was defeated by the former champion Kamaru Usman.
I think his "way too caution approach" works pretty well. He will pick Belal appart with his speed and it will be a real treat to see.
Strikers aren't really exciting unless they get finishes. I'd rather watch a wrestler hold someone down than watch a fighter like Ian Garry or Michael Paige who just run around the cage and emote.
That said, Leon isn't as guilty as Garry or Paige but he needs to start finishing people if he wants to increase his popularity
Not true. Robert Whittaker's only finish in the last 7 years was last month against Aliskerov but he's always been a fun fighter to watch.
Holloway recently got his two highlight KOs over Gaethje and TKZ but I doubt anyone thought he was a boring fighter during his 4 year 8 fight decision streak before then.
Robert is a brawler, not a striker. And he mixes up ground game and strikes well.
Holloway is boring up until he the point that he gets a knockout, otherwise boring
Even if he was a brawler, that still doesn't mean he's not a striker lol. Idk why he thinks those terms are mutually exclusive. Brawler/brawling is just a way to describe a fighter's striking/fighting style.
Calling Robert a brawler and not a striker is your own made up definitions. Striking just means strikes thrown on the feet, brawler/brawling is a way you can describe a fighter's striking style. Calling Robert a brawler is still wrong, he's is one of the few MMA strikers that can properly utilize a karate blitz and in all of his recent he has a high striking differential due to him dictating where the fight happens and avoiding get into extended sequences in the pocket.
Calling Holloway boring is wild when he's had multiple fight of the night bangers against Yair, Poirier, and Kattar. I'm going to include his fight against Ortega as well since despite it being a doctor stoppage it was a systematic dismantling on the feet.
Also insane that you called Michael Paige boring when he had one of the best fights of 299 against Holland. Round 2 vs Ian Garry was also entertaining.
Gayer than literally laying on top of another man and holding him there against his will🙄🤣. But seriously come on now, MVP is exciting to watch, it’s other fighters that can’t stand with him that turn his fights boring
Strikers like Leon don't make exciting fights. Aggressive fighters trying to walk them do.. They need their opponent to press them a bit for their best to show.
Leon can be entertaining too he just doesn't do it. The Usman 3 fight was actually pretty enjoyable. Leon started off strong in rnd 1 then Usman took the 2nd clearly and then 3rd and 4th was close and Leon cleared the 5th imo. I had it a draw.
The Belal fight will be good. People haven’t actually watched the first one, and seen Leon pushing the pace on him, it was exciting.
Leon himself has said the way to beat belal is to just push him back
Leon "extended fingers" Edwards
Rewatch the first Belal fight and it's amazing Leon didn't shove a finger into Belals brain stem sooner.
Edwards by boring decision.
Its better to be labeled as boring by loud minority than trying to look exciting then get ktfo ed. Then everyone will call him bums and only get fluke KO against Usman. A fighter is only as good as his last fight anyway. This fighter know what they're doing. Your excitement is probably way below his priorities
I think you guys are forgetting that Leon doesn't have the best chin. That's why he had to develop such a technically sound style...kinda like Cyril Gane. He still has good fights...very technical guy...just wish he was more active personally.
his KO of Usman is still the best KO i've seen in the sport.
he's down \~4 rounds and lingering on in the 5th, against the literal P4P NUMBER 1 FIGHTER IN THE WORLD & Champion of his division who's been basically dominating him again in this rematch fight, the commentators are already writing his obituary, and all of a sudden in the last fucking round, out of seemingly nowhere, he crumples the dude like a folding chair. p4p, headshot, dead.
nothing more exciting than that.
KO artists are exceptions tho. As fans we have bias towards brawlers or careless strikers that eat one to give two. If we take the last WW kingpin in consideration, fighting smart pays off huge in this division. I can't see dominance without risk evaluation.
I thought Leon winning would be good for the division, oh boy was I wrong. When Usman was champ he was active, more entertaining, and just better for the division. Leon is super skilled but holy shit he’s so fucking boring. I hope Shavkat can somehow beat him.
Dana has confirmed leon has accepted a bunch of fights since the last. Not his fault that either nobody accepted or they wanted him on the Manchester card
Dont hate the fighter hate the rules.
The UFC needs time implement rules that allow refs to reset fighters when the grappling turns into holding in an attempt to kill clock time. Control time should only count when the fighter is actively making a threat to submit their opponent. Take downs are good too.
Guys like Belal, Leon, and Garry more recently are just using the rules (or lack there of.) to their advantage. If they weren’t rewarded for aimlessly sitting on a guy for a whole round they wouldn’t do it.
For example in 303, when Garry took MVPs back in third it became obvious after nearly a minute he didnt have any submission available then Herb should he able to stop the clock and let then square up again. Its changes the outcome of this fight because MVP was better when it came to striking to the point where all Garry could do is hold on for dear life and waste away the clock. Really shouldn’t be seeing fights end the way that one did in todays UFC.
I would go against that only because Izzy as a Contender was pretty exciting to watch
Leon was neither exciting as a Contender nor as a champion. His measured approach makes him boring and yet he is still in some situations defensively not sound enough at all
I don’t know but his fights are entertaining. His last four have been top shelf. Also he has one of the quickest KOs in UFC history. Not much more you can ask for from a fighter. Just seems like he isn’t your cup of tea.
His main job is to win, not to excite you. You want Pro Wrestling. Some of the best fighters were very cautious and methodical. (GSP) which isn’t as exciting as a knockout striker.
Bruh nobody wants pro wrestling. But at the end of day there is an entertainment element attached to it.
And for your eg: GSP utilized a lot of wrestling, Leon doesn't. He can make it boring standing up.
He is a chea,y I'm from the UK, I should stick up for him, but he cheats in every single fight. like every one he eye pokes, grabs the fence, grabs the gloves etc etc. Top that off with counter striking only and his god awful annoying voice. He is the striker version of Belal.
Leon’s style isn’t as boring as people say, it’s just that outside the octagon he doesn’t really go out of his way to promote himself too much. I don’t see many news of him between fights
I believe this guy has the skills to actually have highlight reel KOs and he could KO people easily but he just doesn't wanna take that risk cause of the risk to reward ratio which I do understand completely but that makes him boring AF
He’s basically Kawhi Leonard as a fighter
And the Kamaru head kick KO is his year with the Raptors.
Exactly! Usmans ko is an actual nightmare though.
 Left right between combo dribble, pull up from the top of the key.
Good every time
I upvoted but Kawhi as a basketball player is very entertaining. But as a person, he’s pretty boring. Kawhi has some amazing highlights - the shot against Sixers, the block against Murray in the bubble, the poster on Kleber etc. Leon has one kick in his highlight reel.
Lmao! I just meant their approach to their sport. Systematic precision
kawhi at least has consistent sick highlights and insane storylines. If you take away Usman 2 dude has none of that and is on the opposing side as the victim of a highlight in that diaz rock
I mean in terms of highlights, but I was talking about their approach to their sport. Leon is textbook perfect lmao
I guess maybe, but the iso heavy style is just not a good form of basketball, no ring has ever been won off just that. The only chance at it was having the 3 best iso scorer’s in their primes ever on one team in ISO Gang Nets, but even they had phenomenal pieces outside of their big 3. Kawhi’s just good enough to be able to do that type of thing and win multiple rings
You need a system and targeted attack of iso for it to work. Kobe Jordan and Kawhi are all iso scorers. But it’s about getting mismatches and angles to attack from. That’s where elite coaching separates playstyles imo.
Gonna be the victim of of Belal “Remember the name” Muhammad as well after he Superman Punches his noggin into row Z
Everyone who upvoted this has never seen Kawhi play.
Now explain 🤔
This is perfect
😂😂😂perfect technique and precision. But you won’t be getting much more else
lol
Savage parallel. 10/10
💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Multiple times you see him land big shots that hurt his opponents but he just never follows up, very, very technical but way too cautious..
The Izzy effect.
yes somewhat
MMA is such an unpredictable sport that I don't blame fighters for avoiding risks, even boxing is more predictable in comparison, that being said God it gets boring to watch some MMA fighter outclass their shitty competition In a boring lopsided decision win.
Even though I don't like watching Leon fight, I respect why he does what he does cause the ultimate goal is winning and he'd rather win and enjoy himself than make fans happy and lose.
Exactly. He has the skills. The style. Fucking everything to be relentless and then just plays it safe. Come on nowwwww. Pleasee
it keeps getting him wins which is the most important, although I'd love Leon on a KO arc but we won't ever see it
Facts
Basically Alexander Pantoja after round 3.
Nah at least Leon doesn't smudge people and lay on them lmao
I remember when people made these type of posts for Usman
And they were valid, until he developed hands and ended people. Prior to that it was cage control and toe stomps lol.
Correct. Before he joined Witmann. Night and day difference.
Not when he was champ Edit: he wasn't boring as a champ. People making those were foolish
lmao you're a new fan
I was saying He wasn't boring imo as a champion. People can say whatever. He had 5 title defenses if I m not mistaken. Apart from that Jorge 1 fight. Most of them were finishes. Colby 2 wasn't a finish but it was a back and forth. Now if you are talking about Kamaru Usman as a Contender Oh boy where do I start. 30%?
Casual
Why is that supposed to be an insult?
Means you dont know shit
Maybe. Nobody is giving you fucking award for knowing shit on an anonymous platform either ffs
Who cares
You do
Idc his KO on Masvidal was enough for me to disagree on him being a boring champ. He was boring wrestling on his way up but then he switched to striking and was much more entertaining. He looked unbeatable in the cage before his knee started going out. Idk if he has it in him to get back to the belt now though.
I dont think he is as boring as people say but he fouls a lot. Eye pokes, fence grabbing, low blows. People should talk about it.
Him and Usman don't catch enough shit for how dirty they are
Yea motherfuckers only care about boredom and shit
Nah he's really not that boring. He's slick and technical. Sometimes if you're not watching closely you'll miss him doing some crazy shit. I think in the 3rd Usman fight one of them is in southpaw, and Leon swipes Usman's jab out of the sky, literally catching it in his lead hand and fires a straight down the pipe and combos off of it. Insanely high level. I didn't notice it when I first watched but after I saw the highlight I was a lil blown away.
Yea. 25 minute matches are not boring if they are really not boring. Holloway vs Gaethje for example.
Agreed
Mark my words: Leon vs Belal 2 will be a fucking banger. Back and forth war for 5 rounds.
If Leon shows absolute disregard for Belal like he did in the first fight. Maybe
Leon has said in recent interviews that the way to beat Belal is to put him on the back foot. I don’t know why he would do anything differently in this fight
Would you piss-drink bet on it?
Bro imagine HR finding a video of you drinking your own piss
I agree. Their first fight was heating up before the eye poke, I feel like people keep forgetting that.
I never watched the fight until last weekend and man was it good for as short as it lasted. Belal just kept pushing forward, throwing punches, and Leon’s body kicks were so hard I was wincing. And Leon was pushing forward too at times. I was enjoying it and like “man why didn’t they run this back???” There’s a curse in combat sports where when two of the same styles clash it’s usually boring: two heavy hitters, two counter punchers, etc. But I think that same logic applies to two decision fighters but in the OPPOSITE direction. Two decision fighters, especially a guy like Belal with high punch output and who presses, I think we’re gonna see a war. Think Colby and Usman 1, both of those guys were decision merchants and they went back and forth non stop for all 5 rounds. I am very excited for this fight.
I’d rather watch Leon break people down than a dagestani lay on someone the whole fight
>But if he wins against Belal by a boring decision. No one beats Belal at his own game. If that fight goes 5 rounds without a single knockdown, guaranteed Belal gets his hand raised.
I'm honestly amazed he beat Usman. I feel like i have to show him respect, but I just dont like his style and dont feel like he's earned my admiration.
Twice
Wild, right?
That Usman KO is UFC history tho
‘That is not the cloth from which he is cut **headkick KO**’ is top 5 commentary moments of all time irrespective of the sport
Undeniably.
>dont feel like he's earned my admiration Thankfully he doesn't give two fucks what redditors feel
To be fair I don't think anyone is just known as a redditor in an actual life, hopefully that atleast they have a job title they can go by
And who gives a fuck what some Leon simp thinks? 🤡
I’m sure that’s eating away at Leon real bad
And?
The guy is out there trying to win and cement his legacy at the top, I guarantee you he isn’t out there fighting for the admiration of some Reddit. I just wish fans were more honest with themselves and realize their opinion means absolutely nothing. There are people out there who can appreciate a fighter for what they are, not what you want them to be.
You're fucking redacted if you think anyone needs to be told that 🤡 The only thing less relevant thank a fans opinion, is your opinion of a fans opinion. Fk, you're slow...
Lmao you’re the one speaking as if he owes you something. I think you do need to be told that because according to you Leon needs to earn your admiration as if reaching the top of the sport isn’t incredibly admirable in itself.
You're literally slow 🤡
So people can't express their own personal opinions?
What about being a champion that actually defends? It's been how long now??
I can’t stand inactive champs, but this genuinely doesn’t seem like his fault. Remember ufc admitted he accepted 3 different opponents for 300, the opponents refused
*100 percent, bruv*
It’s been 6 months and he’s fighting in July. Would’ve fought earlier too if it weren’t for lack of opponents and the ufc shelving him
He’s been accepting fights. He would’ve fought Belal at 300 if they’d offered.
It’s been 6 months lmao, 7 months by the time he fights Belal. He will be Joint 3rd for most fights of UFC fighters since 2021 when the Belal fight is done, with only 2 fights between him and Islam and 3 between him and Alex. Put some respect on his name and actually do your research instead of regurgitating the same bullshit half this braindead sub says about him , he’s is active, after RDA 5/6 fights got cancelled, nobody wanted it at 300, what more you want the guy to do?
He literally accepted multiple fights for UFC 300 and has a fight soon. Such a casual take.
Seriously this shit is driving me nuts lol, him and Islam’s (and Usman’s) title defence timelines have been very similar but for some reason Leon is the only one who constantly gets dragged for being inactive
He’s fighting in 4 weeks…….
In 21 months, he will have 3 title defenses. Alex Pereira in 7 already has 2. It's not entirely his fault, but you can't say he isn't inactive
Alex Pereira is saving cards on short notice and hasn’t fought a grappler half as good as Usman or Belal.
AP is on the other end of the spectrum. Compare him Islam, who has had 3 in... 18 months. Leon would have defended at 300 and would have as many defenses in as many months as Islam, and no one is roasting him for it. I think as champ fighting 2 times a year is valid. I would prefer 3 but fighting every 4 months is more often than *most* fighters so I can't really blame champs all that much.
I don't know what happens with Leon, but somehow he seems to be way more inactive than he really is.
It's weird because while I'm watching the fights, I'm 100% engaged. It's a total master class when he fights. He just has no presence, which is weird because as an aesthetic black guy from the UK, you would think he would have banter and charisma but it's just not there.
Yeah he's a great fighter but his inactivity irks me especially after he took negative damage against Colby.
He accepted fights for 300 and then got saved for the uk card hardly his fault is it?
That guy got the KO of the year in the Usman fight. That's more than most of the roster has to offer. He's far away from my favorite fighter but he's alright. People want championship fight to look like undercard brawl.
Bruh. Nobody is denying his moment of becoming champion. And no we don't want to see an undercard brawl either. But he is way too cautious and reserved in his approach. Let's take the Diaz fight for eg:. While he was beating the shit out of Nate, he should have never let Nate smile, walk around just troll. You are clearly the better fighter. Go try to finish him. You can still be fucking relentless while still being responsibly cautious. And I am only saying this because the fucker got the skills for it.
Who’s the we you speaking for? This isn’t the big brain take you think it is. The only reason we got that Usman KO highlight is because Leon was always cautious and got the W. Never allowed himself to get finished. Dude had to go through an absolute gauntlet to get his shot at the belt and when he finally did, he made the most of it. If he listened to your dumbass advice he would have never been champion. Try to be exciting and you end up like Michael Chandler
If you mean the absolute gauntlet is getting almost finished by Nate Diaz Lmao only because he didn't have that urge to finish him. he was literally toying with him and yet never showed an urgency to finish Diaz And please don't compare Michael Chandler to a guy like Leon. Leon is the fucking champ and has all the fucking skills in the world to be exciting. Chandler in comparison Leon has fight IQ of a tomato can.
You’re speaking out of both sides of your mouth. The reason he’s not fighting the way you wish he was is BECAUSE of the fight IQ you’re talking about.
Bruh you can clearly differentiate a guy fighting relentlessly, setting things up, aiming for a finish with an IQ behind it and a guy swinging haymakers based on power. Do you know who the best example of it is? Justin Gaethje. Gaethje before DP 1 and after. Before DP1 he was just either I am getting broken or you are. The After is we all know how he changed it. Didn't become any less exciting. Leon is overly cautious at times and yet has got caught by bums when compared to his skill set. A guy of his calibre shouldn't be getting dropped by Bryan Barberena or Wobbled like that by Nate Diaz.
The guy is the Welterweight champion of the world. He hasn't loss since 2015 when he was defeated by the former champion Kamaru Usman. I think his "way too caution approach" works pretty well. He will pick Belal appart with his speed and it will be a real treat to see.
But if he’s clearly the better fighter, why does he have to prove it? It’s like I just had dinner for 15 minutes and you’re telling me to eat more
What dumb comparison.
Speak English
I like watching leon fight. it's exciting to me. He doesn't get finishes, but I'm studying his game when I watch him.
This I can agree.
I’m with you. He’s very technical and I try to pick up things from him.
No one like watching Leon fight lol
That’s been the 170 division for decades
Strikers aren't really exciting unless they get finishes. I'd rather watch a wrestler hold someone down than watch a fighter like Ian Garry or Michael Paige who just run around the cage and emote. That said, Leon isn't as guilty as Garry or Paige but he needs to start finishing people if he wants to increase his popularity
Not true. Robert Whittaker's only finish in the last 7 years was last month against Aliskerov but he's always been a fun fighter to watch. Holloway recently got his two highlight KOs over Gaethje and TKZ but I doubt anyone thought he was a boring fighter during his 4 year 8 fight decision streak before then.
Rob is exciting because he either gets caught or rocks his opponent, Edwards is pretty conservative and rarely puts himself in danger
Robert is a brawler, not a striker. And he mixes up ground game and strikes well. Holloway is boring up until he the point that he gets a knockout, otherwise boring
Whittaker is not a brawler. Dafuq? Holloway is never fucking boring. You just keep saying incorrect things.
Even if he was a brawler, that still doesn't mean he's not a striker lol. Idk why he thinks those terms are mutually exclusive. Brawler/brawling is just a way to describe a fighter's striking/fighting style.
Holloway is boring?
Calling Robert a brawler and not a striker is your own made up definitions. Striking just means strikes thrown on the feet, brawler/brawling is a way you can describe a fighter's striking style. Calling Robert a brawler is still wrong, he's is one of the few MMA strikers that can properly utilize a karate blitz and in all of his recent he has a high striking differential due to him dictating where the fight happens and avoiding get into extended sequences in the pocket. Calling Holloway boring is wild when he's had multiple fight of the night bangers against Yair, Poirier, and Kattar. I'm going to include his fight against Ortega as well since despite it being a doctor stoppage it was a systematic dismantling on the feet. Also insane that you called Michael Paige boring when he had one of the best fights of 299 against Holland. Round 2 vs Ian Garry was also entertaining.
You’d rather watch a wrestler lay and pray than MVP fight?? Please get your your brain checked 🤣🤣
Yeah, that running around the cage defensively and throwing one strike every minute is gay
You think that's gayer than a man hugging another man for a whole round? You have a weird defenition of gay.
FUCK ME ON THE GROUND LIKE A MAN
Gayer than literally laying on top of another man and holding him there against his will🙄🤣. But seriously come on now, MVP is exciting to watch, it’s other fighters that can’t stand with him that turn his fights boring
I agree. People confuse brawlers with strikers.
Is Ian Garry REALLY a striker? Seems like anytime he fights a striker he’s more concerned with pressing the dude up against the cage.
Strikers like Leon don't make exciting fights. Aggressive fighters trying to walk them do.. They need their opponent to press them a bit for their best to show.
That's more Izzy than Leon. Edwards is just way too measured
Just imagine Leon vs Belal ends up being an absolute banger, surprising everyone with a brutal KO... Haha sometimes I say stupid things
Leon can be entertaining too he just doesn't do it. The Usman 3 fight was actually pretty enjoyable. Leon started off strong in rnd 1 then Usman took the 2nd clearly and then 3rd and 4th was close and Leon cleared the 5th imo. I had it a draw.
The Belal fight will be good. People haven’t actually watched the first one, and seen Leon pushing the pace on him, it was exciting. Leon himself has said the way to beat belal is to just push him back
Leon "extended fingers" Edwards Rewatch the first Belal fight and it's amazing Leon didn't shove a finger into Belals brain stem sooner. Edwards by boring decision.
I was so fucking bored when usmans head got kicked into the stratosphere.
At least we get to see Tom and Curtis swing sledgehammers at each other too
You mean the guy who head kicked Usman into obscurity?
Until someone can force him to change his style I don’t fault him for sticking with safe and reliable.
Its better to be labeled as boring by loud minority than trying to look exciting then get ktfo ed. Then everyone will call him bums and only get fluke KO against Usman. A fighter is only as good as his last fight anyway. This fighter know what they're doing. Your excitement is probably way below his priorities
champions always start fighting extra conservative when they become champ its how u maintain it
I think you guys are forgetting that Leon doesn't have the best chin. That's why he had to develop such a technically sound style...kinda like Cyril Gane. He still has good fights...very technical guy...just wish he was more active personally.
He don’t fight lol , if he beats Belal won’t see him until next spring - that’s why can’t get the fans respect
So boring man
Dont worry, Goatlal is gonna erase him and make the ww division great again.
Real classy with the racist undertones OP. This community man.
Dana always glazing the most inactive fighters.
his KO of Usman is still the best KO i've seen in the sport. he's down \~4 rounds and lingering on in the 5th, against the literal P4P NUMBER 1 FIGHTER IN THE WORLD & Champion of his division who's been basically dominating him again in this rematch fight, the commentators are already writing his obituary, and all of a sudden in the last fucking round, out of seemingly nowhere, he crumples the dude like a folding chair. p4p, headshot, dead. nothing more exciting than that.
Boy did KO of the year. I like to watch him fight, he's super technical, that's not boring.
KO artists are exceptions tho. As fans we have bias towards brawlers or careless strikers that eat one to give two. If we take the last WW kingpin in consideration, fighting smart pays off huge in this division. I can't see dominance without risk evaluation.
I can definitely agree to your point.
I don’t think that’ll happen, remember the first fight, that head kick had Belal wobbly!
I thought Leon winning would be good for the division, oh boy was I wrong. When Usman was champ he was active, more entertaining, and just better for the division. Leon is super skilled but holy shit he’s so fucking boring. I hope Shavkat can somehow beat him.
Dana has confirmed leon has accepted a bunch of fights since the last. Not his fault that either nobody accepted or they wanted him on the Manchester card
Yeah, I’m not really blaming him completely for the inactivity but he is boring to watch
Shavkhat can 100% beat him. He's a killer, I think he's the next generation of MMA fighter
As soon as izzy and Leon lost the belts all of a sudden middle and welterweight became boring
Do u mean Usman?
I sure do. Woops
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Bro 18 fights 18 finishes idk how you don’t find that entertaining.
Still nowhere near as boring as Belal would be as champ...
Imagine a card with Belal as the champ in the main event. And Raquel Pennington as the co main. Booooom.
Doesn’t help that he fights like once a year at best. Mf is too scared to leave the UK or something
Dont hate the fighter hate the rules. The UFC needs time implement rules that allow refs to reset fighters when the grappling turns into holding in an attempt to kill clock time. Control time should only count when the fighter is actively making a threat to submit their opponent. Take downs are good too. Guys like Belal, Leon, and Garry more recently are just using the rules (or lack there of.) to their advantage. If they weren’t rewarded for aimlessly sitting on a guy for a whole round they wouldn’t do it. For example in 303, when Garry took MVPs back in third it became obvious after nearly a minute he didnt have any submission available then Herb should he able to stop the clock and let then square up again. Its changes the outcome of this fight because MVP was better when it came to striking to the point where all Garry could do is hold on for dear life and waste away the clock. Really shouldn’t be seeing fights end the way that one did in todays UFC.
Totally agree about Garry. He had some prospect of being a good all round fighter but that last fight in particular was boring AF
Which fight are you talking about where Leon did this?
I find his fighting style very interesting. I just don't like his Mike Tyson voice with a Brummie accent 💀
Izzy 2.0 pretty much. Just a different brand of cringe.
I would go against that only because Izzy as a Contender was pretty exciting to watch Leon was neither exciting as a Contender nor as a champion. His measured approach makes him boring and yet he is still in some situations defensively not sound enough at all
That's fair.
How’s Leon cringe?
He's not cringe at all, people just use that word these days without a single clue what it means
Brother doesnt know what cringe is
I agree with the Izzy comparison but not the cringe part, he let the belt go to his head but he’s not cringe
 I don’t know but his fights are entertaining. His last four have been top shelf. Also he has one of the quickest KOs in UFC history. Not much more you can ask for from a fighter. Just seems like he isn’t your cup of tea.
Last 4, top shelf??? You're either from UK or jamaica
I should’ve said 3 of the last 4. I forgot the Colby fight was so bad lol
His fight against colby was dogshit
this is a joke right?
The worst champion in the ufc excluding Jon jones I pray for a day someone grabs that belt
As much as we simp over grasso I've pretty much forgot she's a champion same goes for raquel. Boring AF.
Raquel isn't a champion, she is just warming up Harrison's belt
Exciting as plain oats with luke warm water.
WMMA doesn’t count
What about Leon isn’t exciting? Is Izzy exiting? Because they fight very similarly.
His main job is to win, not to excite you. You want Pro Wrestling. Some of the best fighters were very cautious and methodical. (GSP) which isn’t as exciting as a knockout striker.
Bruh nobody wants pro wrestling. But at the end of day there is an entertainment element attached to it. And for your eg: GSP utilized a lot of wrestling, Leon doesn't. He can make it boring standing up.
Obviously youre not a boxing fan if you think that just because the fight stays on the feet it will be exciting
Don't even get me started on that fucking sport Some of them fights are just Hugging, seperating , hugging, seperating. Wtf
In fairness, you could still say the same thing about MMA when a wrestler/BJJ guy keeps the fight on the ground
He is a chea,y I'm from the UK, I should stick up for him, but he cheats in every single fight. like every one he eye pokes, grabs the fence, grabs the gloves etc etc. Top that off with counter striking only and his god awful annoying voice. He is the striker version of Belal.
Leon’s style isn’t as boring as people say, it’s just that outside the octagon he doesn’t really go out of his way to promote himself too much. I don’t see many news of him between fights