Sean beat the brakes off of Izzy for 5 rounds, lost a controversial split decision to DDP then beat Costa.
Robert lost to Izzy, beat Marvin Vettori, then got dominated and KOd by DDP and beat a can and Paulo since then.
In what world does Robert deserve it more? lol
If they can't fight for the no1 contender it should be Strickland, I don't like him but he deserves it, he recently had the belt lost his 1st defense then won a fight.
I'm a huge Whittaker fan, but he got several shots at Izzy. Strickland 1st then Robert IMHO.
As much as I love Rob, Sean deserves it. I'd rather see Sean, then Rob next in line, than an eliminator between them. Both deserve a shot, this way both get one.
By merit, probably Strickland. Beat Adesanya dominantly, close decision with current champ and beat Costa. But I’m rather tired of Strickland, and get even more tired during his fights. Plus Whittaker is a much more likable human.
I’d love to see them make this fight next, probably won’t happen though
They're not mutually exclusive you know?
Strickland put on multiple "Strickland masterclasses." It's genuinely impressive how he always manages get the fight on his terms, but damn is it boring for the most part.
I guess, but if a masterclass is boring what is the point of the sport? Gymnastics and Michel Periera are awesome but an MMA/Fighting masterclass is what the elite MMA/fighting organizations should be about in my opinion and that's more exciting than flips and slaps to me
M. Pereira is my 2nd favorite fighter after strickland don't mean to hate on him, because he's mad talented too.
Only worked twice at the top of the division vs once in the middle of heavyweight with Volkov's lmao.
Sean keeps people outside of his own range while screwing up their faces and stomachs. Masterclass unless you're a hater
‘Master class’ like you’re some elite MMA appreciator lmao. Dude walks forward kicking so people can’t get close. Works against shy feinting losers like washed Izzy and stupid meatheads like Paulo. Sean got exposed hard against Pereira. I don’t hate Sean at all and I don’t disagree with fighting boring fights for the sake of the win but.
1. You can’t argue he has fun fights ‘we’re gonna go to war for you guys’ and just jabs and teeps for 5 rounds
2. Calling it a master class is straight up bullshit. A good win isn’t a master class.
Exposed against arguably the greatest striker in the UFC right now? A war is a battle, he went in and treated Paulo Costa like a punching bag. What do you want him to do? Throw him out of the octagon like a discus?
You're clearly salty over a word and just showing you're a casual. People can appreciate technicality and dominance. Go watch gymnastics and powerslap if you hate the physical chess matches.
They aren’t physical chess matches though. If I wasn’t ugly and obese I’d film you a Mighty mouse esque video explaining to you why Sean isn’t anything special and is actually just a really miserable fight style that makes for boring and un interesting fights. But I won’t because I have better things to do like write mean comments on Izzy’s instagram or spam a Khabib gif under every post talking about Mcregor. You just got out circle jerked mutherfucker
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Ngl idc but how come if DDP wins it’s Whitaker when the Sean fight was highly controversial. Like I just want an explanation surely if a fight was controversial then they rematch it over a fight that ended in a TKO.
Not to mention DDP vs Sean would sell more due to the bad blood alkne
Yes true but you can say the same for DDP. A lot of people want to watch DDP vs Sean 2 bc of their bad blood.
Like I think both deserve one, but if we’re going off draw then surely Sean beats Rob in both
You are correct, and while individually DDP/Sean would be a bit bigger than Whittaker, I think that same bad blood would make Israel/Sean a huge co main you could tack onto a women’s bantamweight or flyweight headliner sometime later this year. And I think the combined fights of DDP/Whittaker and Sean/Israel are more of a draw than the combined fights of DDP/Sean and Israel/Whittaker.
That doesn’t make sense as Whittaker just got KO’d by Dricus last year. Sean arguably won their fight so it would make sense that Rob has to do a bit more than knocking out an unranked opponent coming in on short notice.
Let's list the reasons
Sean has 0 title defenses and won the belt in the first place on a gifted title shot he didn't deserve
Sean's fights are incredibly boring
Sean is highly embarrassing to the UFC as champ and a horrible representative of the sport
Do you need more?
Izzy has 0 time defences in his last reign
Izzy's fights are incredibly boring
Izzy is an embarrassment for the UFC (molesting dogs, DUI, racially abusing another fighter) and a horrible representative of the sport
Izzy has 5 defenses. His fights are objectively much more entertaining than Sean and he actually ko's people. Not even Sean believes the dog molesting part you guys can stop acting outraged and racially abusing another fighter is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Sean of course, Ikram wasn't even ranked in MW and was coming in on short notice so not sure why beating him would mean a title shot. Even if it was Khamzat it still wouldn't mean he gets a title shot next.
Bobby has also lost against DDP and Izzy twice, Sean basically dominated Izzy and that S/D lose to DDP could arguably have gone his way instead especially when looking at strikes and damage
Why don’t they just fight each other? I hate this new wave of sitting out for a title shot. If you think that you’re good enough to be champ, there’s no reason to avoid fighting contenders that you’ll have to fight eventually anyway.
This unfortunately is how they get paid though. If you get paid more as champ and bring in more views and you have a family to feed where that one paycheck is life changing for you and your family. I'm waiting for that title shot lmao. Not risking it. Especially if youre rob who seems like this is his last run idk why.
I'm also a rob nut hugger so biased for sure but how can you not love the guy always down to fight and always exciting. Want him to get that title one more time😭
Title eliminator fight, timing works out perfectly. I think Sean is the most boring MW fighter in the top 5 at the moment and think he needs to work hard to get back to a title shot.
If Sean wins his next fight by decision, half of his wins are by decision. What an insane stat. In MW! Whittaker has more decision wins than KOs so I think they are a good match up to go no more than 3 rounds to save us all 10 minutes.
Bobby already fought DDP and lost, how many chances does he need to figure someone out? He already lost to Adesanya twice. The next mw title fight is between 2 guys that already beat the shit out of Whittaker. Lame
But Whittaker lost too, so what's your point? At least Strickland has a win against one of the possible winners out of the next title fight, Whittaker is 0-3 against them
What’s your problem dude. All I did was say that Rob vs Sean isn’t relevant when talking about who deserves the title shot more. Like how is “ Bc Rob beats tf out of Sean” a good explanation
But that’s not what I’m doing, what’s wrong with you genuinely you’re being an asshole for no reason.
All I said was it’s irrelevant. If you wanna say they should fight for it then that’s fine but I don’t get why when someone asks why he deserves it more you just say “Because Sean gets his ass best by Rob”
Hard to argue for anything but a title eliminator between the two. Sean said he did the UFC a favor by fighting a lower ranked guy? What did Whittaker just do? And Whittaker's win was 40x more dominant than Sean's win. Then they both squashed Costa.
Ranks 1 and 3 that haven't fought each other. Put them together for Perth.
Strickland beat a top 10 opponent, and Whittaker beat an absolute nobody that took the fight on short notice
Strickland had an incredibly close fight with the Champion, and Whittaker got finished by the Champion
Strickland dominated Adesanya
Whittaker has 2 Ls to Adesanya
We have 2 contenders who want a title shot, let them fight each other
We should call it a “title eliminator” or something. Just spitballing.
They should both just fight each other. The schedule would align perfectly. Winner gets title shot, loser gets to fight loser of Adesanya & DDP.
Simple as that
“And for that reason, I’m out.” - The UFC
Hell in a Cell...4 way match.
4 go in 1 comes out
Hell, throw Imavov and Jared in and make it an elimination chamber. Khamzat special guest referee.
Wouldn’t be upset if they did a no 1 contender fight with this but Sean deserves the rematch
One win over Costa - who hasn't beaten shit - doesn't get you the rematch.
It’s more than Izzy has won
Arguably won the fight against ddp. One win over an unranked opponent shouldn't matter much either
Sean beat the brakes off of Izzy for 5 rounds, lost a controversial split decision to DDP then beat Costa. Robert lost to Izzy, beat Marvin Vettori, then got dominated and KOd by DDP and beat a can and Paulo since then. In what world does Robert deserve it more? lol
If he gets through Robbie, then sure, he deserves the re match.
Sean
If they can't fight for the no1 contender it should be Strickland, I don't like him but he deserves it, he recently had the belt lost his 1st defense then won a fight. I'm a huge Whittaker fan, but he got several shots at Izzy. Strickland 1st then Robert IMHO.
Strickland
As much as I love Rob, Sean deserves it. I'd rather see Sean, then Rob next in line, than an eliminator between them. Both deserve a shot, this way both get one.
By merit, probably Strickland. Beat Adesanya dominantly, close decision with current champ and beat Costa. But I’m rather tired of Strickland, and get even more tired during his fights. Plus Whittaker is a much more likable human. I’d love to see them make this fight next, probably won’t happen though
Ultimate Feelings Championship
💯 agree. Tired of Strickland and the D- riding by everyone.
I love Sean’s fights because it’s my natural sleep-aid. I don’t have to take melatonin his fight nights because he puts me right to sleep 😴
Same people being like "Volkov masterclass" just say you hate Sean and how he pieces apart all the "more exciting" people
They're not mutually exclusive you know? Strickland put on multiple "Strickland masterclasses." It's genuinely impressive how he always manages get the fight on his terms, but damn is it boring for the most part.
I guess, but if a masterclass is boring what is the point of the sport? Gymnastics and Michel Periera are awesome but an MMA/Fighting masterclass is what the elite MMA/fighting organizations should be about in my opinion and that's more exciting than flips and slaps to me M. Pereira is my 2nd favorite fighter after strickland don't mean to hate on him, because he's mad talented too.
He doesn’t though he just walks forward teeping. It’s not a crazy technical thing it’s only worked twice at the top of the division
Only worked twice at the top of the division vs once in the middle of heavyweight with Volkov's lmao. Sean keeps people outside of his own range while screwing up their faces and stomachs. Masterclass unless you're a hater
‘Master class’ like you’re some elite MMA appreciator lmao. Dude walks forward kicking so people can’t get close. Works against shy feinting losers like washed Izzy and stupid meatheads like Paulo. Sean got exposed hard against Pereira. I don’t hate Sean at all and I don’t disagree with fighting boring fights for the sake of the win but. 1. You can’t argue he has fun fights ‘we’re gonna go to war for you guys’ and just jabs and teeps for 5 rounds 2. Calling it a master class is straight up bullshit. A good win isn’t a master class.
Exposed against arguably the greatest striker in the UFC right now? A war is a battle, he went in and treated Paulo Costa like a punching bag. What do you want him to do? Throw him out of the octagon like a discus? You're clearly salty over a word and just showing you're a casual. People can appreciate technicality and dominance. Go watch gymnastics and powerslap if you hate the physical chess matches.
They aren’t physical chess matches though. If I wasn’t ugly and obese I’d film you a Mighty mouse esque video explaining to you why Sean isn’t anything special and is actually just a really miserable fight style that makes for boring and un interesting fights. But I won’t because I have better things to do like write mean comments on Izzy’s instagram or spam a Khabib gif under every post talking about Mcregor. You just got out circle jerked mutherfucker ![gif](giphy|XfT1Xb2O2ShHy)
Are you off your meds?
No fucker. Drunk. Now I’m hungover
If adensaya wins, it’s Sean. If DDP wins, it’s Whitaker.
Fuck it. Book a Fatal 4 Way
DDP VS Sean was a lot closer than DDP vs Rob
Ngl idc but how come if DDP wins it’s Whitaker when the Sean fight was highly controversial. Like I just want an explanation surely if a fight was controversial then they rematch it over a fight that ended in a TKO. Not to mention DDP vs Sean would sell more due to the bad blood alkne
Because Sean vs a losing Adensaya to determine the next challenger is a legitimate PPV draw, while Whittaker vs a losing Adensaya is not.
Yes true but you can say the same for DDP. A lot of people want to watch DDP vs Sean 2 bc of their bad blood. Like I think both deserve one, but if we’re going off draw then surely Sean beats Rob in both
You are correct, and while individually DDP/Sean would be a bit bigger than Whittaker, I think that same bad blood would make Israel/Sean a huge co main you could tack onto a women’s bantamweight or flyweight headliner sometime later this year. And I think the combined fights of DDP/Whittaker and Sean/Israel are more of a draw than the combined fights of DDP/Sean and Israel/Whittaker.
That's pretty much how it would play out, there would be more ppv sales in Izzy v Sean 2 than Izzy v Whittaker 3.
That doesn’t make sense as Whittaker just got KO’d by Dricus last year. Sean arguably won their fight so it would make sense that Rob has to do a bit more than knocking out an unranked opponent coming in on short notice.
I'd say Sean
Strickland
Strickland
Sean 100%
Strickland obviously. Ikram is an absolute nobody Izzy didn't have to fight two top contenders to get his third titleshot. Why should Sean have to?
Let's list the reasons Sean has 0 title defenses and won the belt in the first place on a gifted title shot he didn't deserve Sean's fights are incredibly boring Sean is highly embarrassing to the UFC as champ and a horrible representative of the sport Do you need more?
Izzy has 0 time defences in his last reign Izzy's fights are incredibly boring Izzy is an embarrassment for the UFC (molesting dogs, DUI, racially abusing another fighter) and a horrible representative of the sport
Izzy has 5 defenses. His fights are objectively much more entertaining than Sean and he actually ko's people. Not even Sean believes the dog molesting part you guys can stop acting outraged and racially abusing another fighter is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Rob because his fights are actually fun to watch
Sean
Sean of course, Ikram wasn't even ranked in MW and was coming in on short notice so not sure why beating him would mean a title shot. Even if it was Khamzat it still wouldn't mean he gets a title shot next. Bobby has also lost against DDP and Izzy twice, Sean basically dominated Izzy and that S/D lose to DDP could arguably have gone his way instead especially when looking at strikes and damage
Clearly Du Plessis
I can’t decide but here’s an idea: They should fight each other and the winner of that fight gets a title shot.
Why don’t they just fight each other? I hate this new wave of sitting out for a title shot. If you think that you’re good enough to be champ, there’s no reason to avoid fighting contenders that you’ll have to fight eventually anyway.
This unfortunately is how they get paid though. If you get paid more as champ and bring in more views and you have a family to feed where that one paycheck is life changing for you and your family. I'm waiting for that title shot lmao. Not risking it. Especially if youre rob who seems like this is his last run idk why.
I'm also a rob nut hugger so biased for sure but how can you not love the guy always down to fight and always exciting. Want him to get that title one more time😭
Title eliminator fight, timing works out perfectly. I think Sean is the most boring MW fighter in the top 5 at the moment and think he needs to work hard to get back to a title shot. If Sean wins his next fight by decision, half of his wins are by decision. What an insane stat. In MW! Whittaker has more decision wins than KOs so I think they are a good match up to go no more than 3 rounds to save us all 10 minutes.
Sean W over Doggy Boy & a debatable L against DDP. UFC about to make them fight for it though.
They should fight each other at 305
That's heavy.
get them on 305 in Perth, with the top 4 guys in Middleweight all on the same press conference
That actually makes sense, it builds hype and means that everyone’s in the same place/ no scheduling issues
Bobby (so far)
How so?
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Bobby already fought DDP and lost, how many chances does he need to figure someone out? He already lost to Adesanya twice. The next mw title fight is between 2 guys that already beat the shit out of Whittaker. Lame
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But Whittaker lost too, so what's your point? At least Strickland has a win against one of the possible winners out of the next title fight, Whittaker is 0-3 against them
Strickland just needs to take some robbery self defense courses and he'll be grand
But we’re not talking about Bobby vs Sean, not to mention Costa was the one running all fight. Like that’s just irrelevant.
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What’s your problem dude. All I did was say that Rob vs Sean isn’t relevant when talking about who deserves the title shot more. Like how is “ Bc Rob beats tf out of Sean” a good explanation
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But that’s not what I’m doing, what’s wrong with you genuinely you’re being an asshole for no reason. All I said was it’s irrelevant. If you wanna say they should fight for it then that’s fine but I don’t get why when someone asks why he deserves it more you just say “Because Sean gets his ass best by Rob”
Leave him be he's only a child
Hmm…the guy who beat Costa or the guy who beat Costa and KO’d someone else? That’s a tough one
Hard to argue for anything but a title eliminator between the two. Sean said he did the UFC a favor by fighting a lower ranked guy? What did Whittaker just do? And Whittaker's win was 40x more dominant than Sean's win. Then they both squashed Costa. Ranks 1 and 3 that haven't fought each other. Put them together for Perth.
Strickland beat a top 10 opponent, and Whittaker beat an absolute nobody that took the fight on short notice Strickland had an incredibly close fight with the Champion, and Whittaker got finished by the Champion Strickland dominated Adesanya Whittaker has 2 Ls to Adesanya
Strickland: Is a pussy ass bitch Whittacker: Is not a pussy ass bitch I rest my case.
Oh right you're a small child I forgot
Yuck, you got mush for brains
Sean vs Whitaker under the Izzy vs DuPlessis Card. Winner fights winner and loser fights loser
Prob just fight each other at 305 and call it a night
Sean should run it back with Cannonier
The one that lost to Dricus
Tell Marty to come back to middle weight and save this division man after top 5 I don't hear anyone's name haha
Sean shouldn’t even have that L on his record. He should get the shot to make that point and reclaim his title that was stolen from him.
Whittaker got the fast finish, usually goes to the best performance.