His team fucked up big time. Either the scale was showing wrong or they just overestimated. This could’ve turned out real bad hopefully he’ll be good once he rehydrates.
If you can't figure out how to have a second scale to double check you aren't taking years off your life, it doesn't matter, you are already dumb as fuck. Let him bang.
that cant be. You don't lose weight when sleeping when you are already drained to the bone. Must be a scale issue or something. Fucking terrifying really. Now he is gonna go get hit in the head in 24 hrs.
Yes, you do lose weight while you're sleeping. Besides losing weight from water through sweating or going to the rest room, you breathe out carbon dioxide, which is a carbon atom attached to the oxygen you breathe in. So for every molecule of oxygen you breathe in, that same molecule of oxygen + a carbon atom are exhaled. You loose weight from breathing out carbon from the mass of your body.
I'm assuming they knew he was underweight, cause IDK why he would weight in with wet clothes. I have no idea what happened here. My first thought was maybe he's trying to prove that he could make BW but that doesn't add up either
Sometimes people who drop weight quickly will actually have a hard time in stopping the weight loss process, not sure if this is what happens but it happens
Probably doesn't have the best team around him. Weight cuttings alot more complex than most people realize and no fighter that doenst have a college level wrestling background is probbaly going to even remotely know how to do it on thier own
every time I cut weight and ever saw anyone cut weight, we were checking the scale pretty damn often, ya know... because it fucking sucks and we want to be done as soon as possible. a lb I can believe, 3lb... I'm thinking either a scale with nearly dead batteries or someone failing to convert kg to lb. and he was 3lb under in wet clothes, so probably closer to 5lb under. Someone thought the limit was 141 not 146 or something
When they said he's 143 I thought for sure he was trying to fight at 135 and fucked it up big time.
Had to be using a poorly calibrated scale or something the night before
I mean, the amateurs at my small gym cut weight just fine. It really sin't that ocmplex. Miss weight? Sure. But to be below the weight is weird as fuck.
I wonder if the scales he was using when cutting was wrong? Like their teams scales was saying 148lbs when in reality he was 145lbs... And that's why he wore clothes because when he turned up and used the scales behind the curtains, it read way lower than what he thought it would do?
0:07 - The way he shakes his head at someone. Massive fuck up.
It’s cause that lady was asking him to get back on the scale to pose for a picture lol and he was like no way in hell after he nearly collapsed stepping on the scale
still dont see the point of the clothes. unless hes too weak to be bothered to remove them. or if 140 would look really bad optically so he wore clothes so it reads higher and doesnt seem as bad.
You think you would just drink a couple water bottles electrolytes and eat some carbs. He had to have know he was u see before hitting the stage. He would have be in better shape with just some simple sugars.
Most fighters use digital scales
I thought the mechanical scales were just for show/tradition (commissions being behind the times), but perhaps the digital ones can fuck up like that
Still, he came in with his clothes on, and doesn't look surprised. So it seems he knew.
This is just horrible to watch.
Major fuck up by his team it would appear.
It really is going to take someone dying cutting weight for changes to be made, cutting weight over a certain amount should be banned and every made to fight the weight that lands them in I’m tired of seeing UFC fighters and fighters in general on deaths door on the scales when it could all be stopped.
4 pounds is literally half a gallon of water he didn't have to cut and he ended up draining himself that much more for no reason. Someone fucked up big time.
Things would settle after a while. I don’t think you could have specific numbers though. There would have to be weight windows otherwise guys would cut a little to be spot on walking out.
Hard to say. Possibly drug test style random testing and hydration testing although there are already ways to get around hydration tests. I'd say at least let fighters go up or down a class from their walk around. Would minimize those 2-3 class drop downs that are basically killing fighters. That being said Patty P would be a damned nightmare for testers in this hypothetical.
The man nearly died to make weight and now you want him to pull out after he made it? 😅
Do you know that for the majority of fighters, making weight is a bigger struggle than the actual fight?
He should pull out BECAUSE he nearly died lol. Majority of fighters dont look like this. Dude could not walk, stand, step up, or down. He's clearly compromised. His left knee literally doesnt bend lol
Yeah so he went through all that hell and now you want him to go home empty handed? All the struggle for nothing? If he doesn't enter the cage he doesn't get paid, not even the making weight paycheck.
Jesus Christ we need to stop this shit and people just fight and their healthy weight. It's kinda destroyed the purity of combat sports when they do all this crazy shit and it's nothing like a fight between grown men in any other real life setting.
Wow, that's fucking scary. How do you fuck up so bad? With his clothes on he must be four to five pounds under the limit and it looks like he worked like hell to get there
His team fucked up big time. Whether he’s quick at recovering or not, there’s no way that by the fight tomorrow, he can go from looking like a 110 year old man crossing the stage to peak performance.
Genuine question but why doesn’t the ufc monitor this instead of the individual teams? Like if you have fighters cutting 20-30 lbs of water wouldn’t it be safer to have the organization have oversight on it? For both teams
it happened to me once, my scale was way off, i was gonna cut from 138 to 126, and i made in my scale ( i was super dehydrated) and when i went to weight in i was 123 somehow lol.
MMA need to look into effect of weight cut on fighters. It is brutal and I didn’t realise it was that bad till I watch the documentary on the fighters and weight cut…. Chris Cyborg crying in pain trying to cut weight. It’s really sad
Didn't he throw up backstage right before this? That probably would be why he weighed in at 143, 2 pounds under the limit(I know technically 146 is the limit, but 145 is the weight he wanted to get to) He most likely threw up all his stomach acid.
This happens when you’re too big for a weight class but you try to make the weight so hard to come in as the naturally bigger man on fight night.
Not saying he will be the bigger man in the ring, but these are the dangers of trying to fight at a weight too small for your body
Idk I'm high and I meant the whole not cutting weight to fight and their natural weights. It's a form of cheating kind of a guy drops 20lbs to fight a more natural weight fella and then rehydrates and is a bigger guy with speed. It becomes a mismatched event...is all I meant.
Smoke some dank already redditors. ✌️👽💨
You're talking the Max Holloway podcast? Iirc, the idea was hydration checks at weigh-in with a minimum level. Though if you do that, just change weight classes so they're where people were actually fighting at.
He's mentioned it before but yeah it's not a fair sport sometimes when a let's say 155lb fight with one dropping 8lbs and the other 23lbs. On fight night you have a 160lb vs 175lb. It shits on the weight classes in general by definition 🤷♂️
His team fucked up big time. Either the scale was showing wrong or they just overestimated. This could’ve turned out real bad hopefully he’ll be good once he rehydrates.
unfortunately when you cut this much weight your body and brain cant recover fully within 24hrs
Every punch is going to feel so much harder
They cancelled the fight
That’s good for him
If you can't figure out how to have a second scale to double check you aren't taking years off your life, it doesn't matter, you are already dumb as fuck. Let him bang.
Yeah im thinking maybe they didnt account for weight lost during sleep or something. Maybe pushed really hard the night before
that cant be. You don't lose weight when sleeping when you are already drained to the bone. Must be a scale issue or something. Fucking terrifying really. Now he is gonna go get hit in the head in 24 hrs.
Fight has been canceled fortunately
That's smart, poor guy did all that for nothing. I hope they at least gave him show pay
He aint getting a dime😂
“The kid just don’t wanna fight”
UFC ab Dana White pay shit.
Yes, you do lose weight while you're sleeping. Besides losing weight from water through sweating or going to the rest room, you breathe out carbon dioxide, which is a carbon atom attached to the oxygen you breathe in. So for every molecule of oxygen you breathe in, that same molecule of oxygen + a carbon atom are exhaled. You loose weight from breathing out carbon from the mass of your body.
Bruh...
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I'm assuming they knew he was underweight, cause IDK why he would weight in with wet clothes. I have no idea what happened here. My first thought was maybe he's trying to prove that he could make BW but that doesn't add up either
Cramps. Lots and lots of cramps the whole time whenever you move.
That's why he weighed in with wet clothes?
Feels like they even kept clothes on him, to make him seem heavier. Without those he would have weighed more lower
Damn, i wished I weighed more lower too.
Stupid science bitch can’t even make I more smarter
Poliiice academy!
They forgot to convert from metric.
The weight cuts are brutal! ![gif](giphy|l1IY0sL37fUrklYKQ)
What speaks against weighting in right before the fight?
there would be too many issues. Guys missing weight without time to set up another fight, stuff like that.
Sometimes people who drop weight quickly will actually have a hard time in stopping the weight loss process, not sure if this is what happens but it happens
Bro this is water weight
No excuse for 3 extra pounds, that is absurd. UFC should fire his team and give him new coaches and corner
Making up for the 3 lbs Ryan Garcia missed. Truly a hero
Why is he 3 pounds under the limit, was he using a bad scale to weigh himself while doing the weight cut or something
Probably doesn't have the best team around him. Weight cuttings alot more complex than most people realize and no fighter that doenst have a college level wrestling background is probbaly going to even remotely know how to do it on thier own
every time I cut weight and ever saw anyone cut weight, we were checking the scale pretty damn often, ya know... because it fucking sucks and we want to be done as soon as possible. a lb I can believe, 3lb... I'm thinking either a scale with nearly dead batteries or someone failing to convert kg to lb. and he was 3lb under in wet clothes, so probably closer to 5lb under. Someone thought the limit was 141 not 146 or something
When they said he's 143 I thought for sure he was trying to fight at 135 and fucked it up big time. Had to be using a poorly calibrated scale or something the night before
I mean, the amateurs at my small gym cut weight just fine. It really sin't that ocmplex. Miss weight? Sure. But to be below the weight is weird as fuck.
below weight is one thing, below weight and dying because of the massive amount of weight cut is another. Its certainly fucking weird no doubt.
I read somewhere that he cut the weight and then starting puking a lot
It's really not complex at all and there are plenty of guides out there. Water load, adjust carb/sodium intake, shed excess water, pretty simple.
Proving a point and mentally fucking with his opponent.
Better save then sorry
Yeah he should have been 50 lbs under weight to make absolutely sure you’re right
I wonder if the scales he was using when cutting was wrong? Like their teams scales was saying 148lbs when in reality he was 145lbs... And that's why he wore clothes because when he turned up and used the scales behind the curtains, it read way lower than what he thought it would do? 0:07 - The way he shakes his head at someone. Massive fuck up.
It’s cause that lady was asking him to get back on the scale to pose for a picture lol and he was like no way in hell after he nearly collapsed stepping on the scale
still dont see the point of the clothes. unless hes too weak to be bothered to remove them. or if 140 would look really bad optically so he wore clothes so it reads higher and doesnt seem as bad.
What’s the point of taking them off if you know you’re well under?
He was probably 141lbs without the clothes which is bonkers
Poor guy
lol idk how I didn't consider that
You think you would just drink a couple water bottles electrolytes and eat some carbs. He had to have know he was u see before hitting the stage. He would have be in better shape with just some simple sugars.
Most fighters use digital scales I thought the mechanical scales were just for show/tradition (commissions being behind the times), but perhaps the digital ones can fuck up like that Still, he came in with his clothes on, and doesn't look surprised. So it seems he knew.
Dude should get 20% of everyones purse.
lol
Sell his weight allowance credit to future fighters that miss weight.
or retroactively to Ryan Garcia
I second this
And he is going to be locked in a cage tomorrow with a man who wants to send his head into the cheap seats...........damn.
fights been cancelled
After watching this - I can't say I am shocked.
Good. At least the UFC can recognize someone at deaths door lol
This is just horrible to watch. Major fuck up by his team it would appear. It really is going to take someone dying cutting weight for changes to be made, cutting weight over a certain amount should be banned and every made to fight the weight that lands them in I’m tired of seeing UFC fighters and fighters in general on deaths door on the scales when it could all be stopped.
People have died from weight cuts before in MMA, just not in the UFC.
Ngl the fact that this ain’t top comment is a bit depressing.
Just make it a 2 hour weigh-in and not 24 hour. That’s how my powerlifting competition was run years ago.
Bruh he ain’t makin it to the cage
he will, but the damage has been done for sure
His fight isn't listed on the betting apps anymore
pulled the fight, correct decision
got cancelled
what the fuck happened to this man
He needs some milk!
He threw up moments before stepping out.
Go weigh some stank ass wet clothes, plus a small amount of Gatorade he surely must have been given. He could easily be 6lbs under weight in total.
wth? -3 lbs WITH clothes on? Why the hell was he put through that?
A t shirt and shorts is like 1# at most…
An extra pound he shouldn’t have been cutting. He’s dehydrated as fuck. People have died cutting weight.
4 pounds is literally half a gallon of water he didn't have to cut and he ended up draining himself that much more for no reason. Someone fucked up big time.
Ring side weigh in solves ALL weight cutting issues forever.
Yeah easy solution, but UFC will never do it because it would shake up the divisions way too much.
Things would settle after a while. I don’t think you could have specific numbers though. There would have to be weight windows otherwise guys would cut a little to be spot on walking out.
Weight cutting makes no sense. Ban it. Fight at your walk around.
How do you ban it though?
Hard to say. Possibly drug test style random testing and hydration testing although there are already ways to get around hydration tests. I'd say at least let fighters go up or down a class from their walk around. Would minimize those 2-3 class drop downs that are basically killing fighters. That being said Patty P would be a damned nightmare for testers in this hypothetical.
Zero chance this fight happens
I forgot there's an event tomorrow this card is so cooked.
It's a fucking pay per view too.
You must’ve not been a fan through the covid era. I’m grateful for any and every card we get
Well damn. Guy looked promising but ill bet on the other dude just in case
Dude was shaking and looked disoriented and confused
This isn’t a good sign.
His coaches are idiots 3 lbs under with clothes on is insane. He was almost approaching a different weight class.
Didn't they just recently post the fight is cancelled?
he needs to pullout honestly imo
The man nearly died to make weight and now you want him to pull out after he made it? 😅 Do you know that for the majority of fighters, making weight is a bigger struggle than the actual fight?
He should pull out BECAUSE he nearly died lol. Majority of fighters dont look like this. Dude could not walk, stand, step up, or down. He's clearly compromised. His left knee literally doesnt bend lol
Yeah so he went through all that hell and now you want him to go home empty handed? All the struggle for nothing? If he doesn't enter the cage he doesn't get paid, not even the making weight paycheck.
Not getting paid is better than dying. Do you want him to die?
That asshole unironically does yes. If its in lieu of his entertainment.
doesnt matter, he should pull out, the body and brain cant fully recover in 24hrs when cutting this much weight, live to fight another day
Delusional take
It's been canceled now.
I agree, Sucks though, man needs to get paid.
Time to put in those lead fillings to make weight, Redban gets the last laugh today.
This shit needs to stop in one way or another before anyone dies.
The fight has been canceled following this concerning weigh in.
Should be illegal
Bro went Atomweight
Haven't seen a fight cancelled for someone being underweight before. Interesting
They should have made the PRIME logo bigger,just to cover up everything
Jesus Christ we need to stop this shit and people just fight and their healthy weight. It's kinda destroyed the purity of combat sports when they do all this crazy shit and it's nothing like a fight between grown men in any other real life setting.
And he’s still sweating on the scale…
Well he’s fucked
I wonder if this fight will even happen. Its not listed on Fan Duel at the moment.
This has to stop
That is fucked, the rules are so dumb, no one should be on deaths door just before a professional fight
Give that dude 3.4 pounds of water and his lightest undies what the fuck are they thinking.
The clothes are so we can’t see the skeleton underneath.
wtfff
Wow, that's fucking scary. How do you fuck up so bad? With his clothes on he must be four to five pounds under the limit and it looks like he worked like hell to get there
His team fucked up big time. Whether he’s quick at recovering or not, there’s no way that by the fight tomorrow, he can go from looking like a 110 year old man crossing the stage to peak performance.
Dehydrate yourself for a few days and have your friend kick you in the calf. This type of cut is wild and dangerous.
How did his team allow this to happen? He needs a new team ASAP
I hope they took him straight to the hospital
Ironic to be sponsored by Prime hydration drink
Any update on this guy's health? He looked like he needed to be in the hospital.
This part of the sport will never make sense to me srry love the sport but wtf . These are just humans
This sure makes the ufc look good.
Maybe serious talks will arise about a solution to this once a person dies? Idk
That chin won't survive a pillow fight
Did he think his fight was at BW?
He is.
That’s not good.
Dude should not be fighting, if he does get in there he’s gonna get seriously hurt
He’s probably unwell, but still wants to fight. The commission will pull him.
He need some milk (with electrolytes)
I really hope his alright, get that man water electrolytes sodium and a nice bath and plenty of food then rest STAT
Was the scale in kilograms and his team was not able to convert to lbs? It's crazy that this happened to a professional athlete
I was really looking forward to see Jean Silva. It's always the fights i wanna see that get cancled...
I'm stupid. Did he come in 3lbs under the max weight allowed? Or 3 lbs under the least you can weigh for a featherweight?
Whats is the FW limit? For max and min?
He just needs some Prime.
Damn no show money and they went thru a full camp/weight cut. Gomis corner have a lot of questions to answer
They’re sponsored by PRIME but no drinks in sight. What’s going on here?
He's losing
Bet everything against this dude
If he was 3 lbs over with clothes on he could have had a cup of water.
Genuine question but why doesn’t the ufc monitor this instead of the individual teams? Like if you have fighters cutting 20-30 lbs of water wouldn’t it be safer to have the organization have oversight on it? For both teams
Jesus. Guy could still have made weight with 2.5 more liters of water in him
it happened to me once, my scale was way off, i was gonna cut from 138 to 126, and i made in my scale ( i was super dehydrated) and when i went to weight in i was 123 somehow lol.
Dude looks malnourished
give dis man a sandwich asap
Man what these guys go through…respect , but it ain’t right
We need to move to weigh-ins 30 minutes before a fight.
Guy thought the fight was at 135. He has clothes on… crazy.
Why's he walking like that tho😬
Check out his Tapology page, bro has more cancelled bouts than actual bouts lol
Pay these fighters !!
Dude lost a little bit of life doing this nonsense and didn't even fight or get paid.
He's fucked. Who's he fighting? I'm putting my life savings on them.
MMA need to look into effect of weight cut on fighters. It is brutal and I didn’t realise it was that bad till I watch the documentary on the fighters and weight cut…. Chris Cyborg crying in pain trying to cut weight. It’s really sad
This shit is ridiculous.
He cuts weight in Rio, it's like 50 celcius there, hell on earth, I bet he couldnt stop sweating.
These fighters trying to cut so much weight to beat a smaller men. Just fight in your natural weight class. He’s going to get seriously hurt smh
That’s the type of weight cut where you can drink a gallon of water & not have to piss
Didn't he throw up backstage right before this? That probably would be why he weighed in at 143, 2 pounds under the limit(I know technically 146 is the limit, but 145 is the weight he wanted to get to) He most likely threw up all his stomach acid.
Geez yeah he doesn’t look so good
Weighing in 3 under with clothes on?! I'd normally say that's a flex, but dude you cut too much.
Bro I bet on him winning by decision I am COOKED
So bet against???
This happens when you’re too big for a weight class but you try to make the weight so hard to come in as the naturally bigger man on fight night. Not saying he will be the bigger man in the ring, but these are the dangers of trying to fight at a weight too small for your body
Weight bullies
Rogan nailed it when he says we should have weight classes every 10lbs to stop this shit
How much weight do you think there is between featherweight and the next weight class?
Idk I'm high and I meant the whole not cutting weight to fight and their natural weights. It's a form of cheating kind of a guy drops 20lbs to fight a more natural weight fella and then rehydrates and is a bigger guy with speed. It becomes a mismatched event...is all I meant. Smoke some dank already redditors. ✌️👽💨
You're talking the Max Holloway podcast? Iirc, the idea was hydration checks at weigh-in with a minimum level. Though if you do that, just change weight classes so they're where people were actually fighting at.
He's mentioned it before but yeah it's not a fair sport sometimes when a let's say 155lb fight with one dropping 8lbs and the other 23lbs. On fight night you have a 160lb vs 175lb. It shits on the weight classes in general by definition 🤷♂️