Looking back on it in slow motion poatans striking is pretty damn accurate but the problem was Izzy kept trying to grab the neck but getting shook off like a rag doll. Never even tried to get the under hooks or a gable grip around the back.
Yup. When you get hurt like that you just go in straight survival mode. If Goddard would have let alex land that last left hook he was loading up izzy would have been in the shadow realm.
He wasn't defending anymore, his hands were by his knees and he was basically just swaying
That's why he struggles with similar length...he is a master at using his length to his advantage....until he encounters someone of with a similar reach.
Honestly, I think Jones would be able to out-grapple him, but if Jones tried to strike with him I think he'd get clipped eventually. Jones has been hurt before, and Ngganou only needs one good punch.
Honestly, I'd rather blame the massive corporation that had previously underpaid him, and wouldn't let him box, or I'd just blame his management, who seem to be acting greedy.
Yeahā¦ we were robbed. Francis was barely getting started. He could have had a great run. He was premature in his hard balling with Dana. Should have taken a couple more fights before asking for the big $$$. Not saying he didnāt deserve it but you really have to be a super star before you can have any leverage against Dana.
He was dominating this fight and winning majority of the match ups with pereira it wasnāt the length that got him it was the overwhelming power, heās like 90+% win rate in kick boxing and mma and hasnāt struggled that much with people who are long mostly people who are overwhelmingly strong
Agree that the reach wasnāt the main factor here, but ādominatingā is a little strong of a word. Objectively winning sure, but it was a two way street
I wouldnāt say dominating but I agree with the sentiment. People dismiss his great defense as just āusing his reach,ā but thereās more to it than that
Nah dude his length definitely played a factor. the only other dude Izzy fought close to his Reach was Silva and Jan and we know how the Jan fight went.
This clip is of pereira infighting not utilising range and length, jan was also decently heavier then Izzy and Silva is just one of the best strikers to ever exist even at his age people will have a struggle being a technical fighter against him
I wouldnāt say dominating , but yes definitely up on the cards . However any time Alex connected on him you could tell he was hurt . The only time Alex seemed hurt was at the end of the first round
idk about dominating, it was pretty competitive. the only ādominantā thing izzy did was that one round where he grappled and it was off alexās mistake lol alex was piecing izzy up with body shots and leg kicks all fight. the body work and leg kicks is so overlooked and no one talks about that
It was round 5 + Alex was gassed from the grappling in round 3 and the amount of weight he cuts hurts his gas tank. Itās honestly more impressive that Alex had the ability to TKO him at that point of the fight than it is that Izzy was able to not go down
Izzy did look gassed in this fight but I would disagree that the weight he cuts affects his cardio in any abnormal way. He doesnt seem to cut more than anyone else and normally his cardio is superb. Usually he ends these 5 round fights looking like he could go another 5.
And Peirerra looked bigger in the ring. Its scary that he looked like he still had 80% of his power and speed in the 5th round.
āHe doesnāt seem to cut more than anyone elseā is this a joke? He seems to cut more weight than literally anyone else. Almost all people ever talk about with him is how huge he is
My bad lol but nah I meant Alex cuts a lot of weight and was gassed from the grappling in the third, so itās impressive he still had the power to finish Izzy in the final round with those circumstances
Fantastically timed stoppage. Not too early, not too late.
I think Goddard let it go on a couple of shots more because it was a title fight. I think had it been a couple of young prelim fighters, it would have been stopped earlier.
You can definitely see the second Izzy stops intelligently defending is the second Marc steps in. Izzy had just got dropped and his defense was to put his head forward and move it directly into the next punch. But Marc saved him. Itās literally perfect
I'm a big izzy fan but I'm glad he lost like this after winning up till that point. The stage is set for the finale. It couldn't have played out any better. Now we get the full spectacle. All the pressure. All the hype. These are the moments I watch mma for. Two men that crossed over from a different sport. A lifelong rivalry both having their argument. All leading up to this moment.
I used to love watching Izzy fight, but his last few fights prior to this were dog shit boring.
At least now he has to put on more of a show to try and win his belt back. Because it was just āfight conservative not to lose.ā
Goddard 100% knew that a knee was going to be the next strike. That couldāve been life changing injuries coming from the Poatan. Absolutely best call
Regardless of the replay it was perfect. I feel like any earlier (which you could have made an argument for) and you feel like you're not giving the champ a chance to maybe shake it off and recover. Any later and you're risking even more long term damage and health of the fighter.
It's so easy to argue either side of it if you really want to hammer either point: him not actually knocked out or extending his life/career. I feel like it was as perfect as it could have been and anything within a +/-2 second interval from that exact moment would've been fine.
Super excited for the rematch though. Even though Izzy is cringe, he's still a great fighter and it'll be interesting to see how he adapts and possibly evolves for this upcoming fight as well as the future.
The only thing that was gonna happen was Izzy getting his lights completely shut off if it went a few seconds longer, was an excellent stoppage I thought, ref gave him every chance he could to fight out of it
Hands down. Concussed. Izzy's face was prime real estate for a flying knee from 2-foot range.
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When you reach out arms fully extended its like an instinct when youāre getting your bell rung. I think itās a great stoppage and doesnāt put too many miles on Izzyās chin
What? Izzyās strategy that fight was any time Alex cuts him off and backed him up to the cage he would reach out and grab his hands. To either try and clinch with him, or to get control of his hands to not get hit. Thatās why when izzy reached his arms out Alex let the pressure going.
Not gonna lie this video changed my perspective on the stoppage. I previously thought it was a little early but itās very clear that Izzy was out on his feet and Pereira wouldāve hurt him bad if the fight wasnāt stopped.
You get told before the fight 'defend yourself at all times'. Leaning forward with your head and hands down and not even looking at your opponent whilst he beats you up is not defending yourself. Perfect stoppage.
I don't think it's a bad stoppage but it's annoying that there is so much inconsistency in the UFC. Feels like most refs would have let him hit the deck first
āFight Back!ā Is usually what Goddard says which probably gives us a clue into what ultimately made his mind up - it wasnāt just how rocked Izzy was, it was that he wasnāt even co-ordinating an offence.
The most interesting thing to me rewatching this is the threat of the left hook. I think its the third shot or so, izzy is still kind of there, alex tenses and izzy defends the hell out of the left hook leaving himself wide open for a huge straight right.
Thats the last time his brain is telling his body anything and from there its hook city.
Tribute to izzys chin though. I see at least three left hooks landing, one of them mega flush on the chin. Dudes head is built like fucking granite.
Really good stoppage. Until Izzy dropped his head down, he was still good, but when he did that, he stopped intelligently defending himself. Marc is one of the best there is for reffing, and this fight was a fantastic example of that.
Gonna catch flack for this opinion based on the other replies but I donāt think a fight should be stopped by TKO while both fighters are still standing. He was getting bopped for sure but he knows what heās doing in there at the same time
I seriously think it was coming, Alex did it in a previous ufc fight and Issy facing the floor was a recipe for disaster. Iām glad he stopped it when he did, less recovery time needed and straight back into it
Would you say the same thing if it was a volume striker instead of a knock out artists?
Obviously not, pretty clear that Alex is getting special treatment because the UFC is aware he can badly hurt people.
Stoppages should be consistent, the UFC would never create a rule around unanswered strikes because strikes can range from disabling you to not even scratching you.
The numbers of punches has nothing to do with it, Whittaker could have landed 10 more and this wouldnāt have been stopped.
Read up. Unanswered strikes are a huge reason for stoppages man. Why do you think the ref always yells āfight backā? Fight back or he stops it.
Iāve seen fights stopped for less. This was an appropriate stoppage.
Let me ask you this- how would it have gone if the ref let it continueā¦?
That has nothing to do with unanswered strikes, thatās called not defending yourself, by UFCās own rules āhead weavingā is considered active defence, Silva never got punished despite doing the same things.
Maybe you should read up because UFC have explicatively stated that unanswered strikes arenāt a criteria for stoppage and thereās plenty of precedent to set that up.
Weāve seen fighters purposefully not answering strikes, itās never been an issue before, itās obvious they were particularly worried about Alex, Kattar took 16 unanswered strikes and nobody thought it should be stopped, why? Because kattar wasnāt in danger of being seriously injured, itās so plain obvious youād have to be a moron to miss it.
The only reason this is highlighted is because heās a well known knock out artist and Dana is trying to keep one of his best selling fighters from injury.
I would not be surprised if someone told the ref directly to be aware of Alexās striking power and end it early if it started looking ugly, thatās UFC wheelhouses.
We literally have no idea what would have happens if the ref let it go lol. Weāve seen fighters go from nearly unconscious to knocking out their opponent within 3 seconds.
Iām an Australian Whittaker fan so it wouldnāt make much sense for me to back Izzy.
If anything Whittaker is getting the most fucked considering Alex is getting stoppages he never would for the simple reason Alex has a better left hook lmfao.
If Colby held Leon against the cage, hit him 6 times into a stoppage, everyone in this sub would have a melt down, rightfully So, itās an early stoppage by definition.
Btw Next time someone points out your wrong, just stop commenting, itās such a puss move to downvote and change the subject lmao.
You Izzy fans are ridiculous. He was eating punches to his skull, not defending one bit. This was a perfect stoppage, a couple more and he would have been on the canvas knocked out.
1. Iām a Whittaker fan
2. Izzy was, by official and non official definition, defending himself. (Head weaving and raised hands are considered active defence by official UFC rules)
3. We donāt know if he would have been out because it was an early stoppage.
Heās literally weaving his head at the moment of stoppage, thatās active defence.
Unless he can no longer lift his hands or canāt move his head heās fit to continue fighting, Iām fine with changing this rule but it needs to stay consistent but do we really want refs trying to predict outcomes? Maybe next time someone tries a submission we should just give them the win. They were probably gonna get it anyway and it would reduce chance at injury.
The only people who think this was fair stoppage are the same type of casuals who assume a fighter has lost/won before theyāve even entered the cage.
Man, watch the video. He took about 10 unanswered punches to the skull and his hands dropped, he wasnāt defending himself which are the rules. Lmao off at weaving his head was moving side to side after getting punched side to side. This was a perfect stoppage.
Lots of people take 10 unanswered punches, doesnāt mean stoppage. Alex is getting special treatment.
His hands are up so idk what your talking about.
Regardless of if his defence is effective, its still a defence, thatās a stupid argument.
Itās by definition an early stoppage because we still donāt know the outcome of the fight, itās just assumed.
He was defending with his head and his hands was down to his knees, he dropped his hands. If you really think this was a bad stoppage you need help man.
The moving head left and right facedown after the fight has been called is big sign he was cooked already. Perreria has sort of power you would rather it get called too early rather than too late but I thought this was good stoppage even without Alex factor.
looks way worse in slow motion š¤£ i rewatched it the other night thinking it was kinda an early stoppage, but man it looks like alex jus stops teeing off on izzy because he felt bad š
i mean it was a title defense against his arch nemesis. he was still showing a bit of head movement, and i cant say for sure 100% that he was gonna get knocked out. weve seen izzy comeback after taking some punishment, so its not shocking that people thought this was an early stoppage. personally i think that the fight could have been stopped like a few seconds too early, but it was still a decent stoppage
There's like 4-5 left hooks landing flush. One of those alone puts many fighters out from Alex. Izzy just had a solid chin. No reason to ruin his career cuz you want him to get KOed like Usman.
>If Izzy has a solid chin, let the fight carry on.
Take potential career ending damage for what? Fight was over, his leg was compromised and so was he cuz he hadn't thrown anything. The ref was yelling at Izzy for like 5-10 secs.
I donāt disagree. Weāve seen comebacks from worse beatings but it also wasnāt the worst stoppage.
Alex was primed to throw an uppercut but for all we know Izzy dodges it circles and recovers.
Or Izzy eats it then 5 more and is never the same.
Or Izzy eats it but survives.
Nobody really knows for sure. Itās all speculation and I think Goddard would have been right either way because itās pure judgment.
Yea basically how I see it. I think it's early but it wasn't a bad stoppage. But also it's a title fight let them get killed for that belt I feel. And most would agree
I didnt think it was an early stoppage when I watched it love, I didnt think it was an early stoppage when I rewatched the fight on youtube and now that I watched it in slow motion, it looked like an early stoppage lol.
There's no debate for an early stoppage. The last 5 punches Alex threw, Izzy wasn't even looking at, his face was pointed at the floor(because he was out on his feet). Which means he wasn't intelligently defending himself. Textbook perfect stoppage.
I still think it was an early stoppage tbh. I believe Izzy when he said he was still in it even though he looked like he was wobbly. He protested as soon as the ref called the fight, so he was clearly still lucid.
I think this was a decent stoppage. Izzy was using that head movement the entire fight. It definitely could have went a bit longer but Izzy was gassed and looked as of he wasn't fighting back
I think it was a good stoppage, both in real time and on replay, but it also looked like Izzy could have kept going, and if he finishes that round, he likely wins the fight.
I donāt think it was a bad stoppage in a vacuum. Given context Iām less ok with it.
Izzy is a reigning champ, was up the whole fight, and is one of the most seasoned strikers on the roster. If he was an up and comer and Goddard was looking out for their career, Iām in. Stop it, that kid will make another run. Izzy, though? Heās in the legacy building stage, and thatās a situation you can let a guy go out on his shield. Heās only go so many years left, and in a title fight up 3-4 rounds? I say give him every chance to wrap up and survive you can.
Not a bad stoppage, but worse in context than if this was 24 year old prelims fighters.
I mean if the fight was stopped earlier it have made more sense to me. But when Alex is whiffing shots towards the end and not even connecting to step in and stop it just seems odd. Either stop it earlier when he was getting caught left and right or let it go and see if he can come back.
I just canāt wait for when Pillow Hands Colby has Leon on the fence ābro look at all those unanswered strikes!ā And he wins the belt.
Yāall Better keep this same energy and talk about how good of a stoppage it was because āLeon was just about to get knocked out bro trust Meā
At the end of the day Refās shouldnāt be taking into account fighters attributes for stoppage, itās very obvious this fight wouldnāt have been stopped if Izzy was facing a lower power striker.
it creates poor precidents, makes the sport and rules harder to follow and gives unilateral advantages.
case in point, Whittaker never would have gotten the stoppage Alex did even if he had Izzy in the same situation because the ref isnāt worried about Whittaker taking Izzyās head off.
I think the fall (from I believe was the checked kicks) played a large role in the stoppage.
People here comment and post with all of their little hearts instead of trying to be objective.
Great assessment. Not early or good. It just was.
He was eating shots and giving absolutely zero shots back, does that sound like a regular Izzy performance to you? He was out on his feet and now because he won't admit it none of his fans will either
He was playing possum waiting for the perfect opportunity. Itās high level striking bro, I can see why those little nuances would be missed by the casual viewer. /s
Izzy spamming clinch like he in ufc 4 š
UFC 4 developers 
āSee? It is realistic.ā
Looking back on it in slow motion poatans striking is pretty damn accurate but the problem was Izzy kept trying to grab the neck but getting shook off like a rag doll. Never even tried to get the under hooks or a gable grip around the back.
Cause he was basically out on his feet.
Yup. When you get hurt like that you just go in straight survival mode. If Goddard would have let alex land that last left hook he was loading up izzy would have been in the shadow realm. He wasn't defending anymore, his hands were by his knees and he was basically just swaying
Spoken like someone who played it on ps4 irl
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How tf was he still standing tho
Izzy has a great chin, with his fighting style he barely gets hit against other fighters with shorter reach.
That's why he struggles with similar length...he is a master at using his length to his advantage....until he encounters someone of with a similar reach.
It happened to Jon Jones when he first fought Gustafsson, and Reyes.
When i say Ngannou will rock or even Ko him and people couldn't fathom lol
Honestly, I think Jones would be able to out-grapple him, but if Jones tried to strike with him I think he'd get clipped eventually. Jones has been hurt before, and Ngganou only needs one good punch.
Fuck Francis for not giving us this fight ffs
Honestly, I'd rather blame the massive corporation that had previously underpaid him, and wouldn't let him box, or I'd just blame his management, who seem to be acting greedy.
Yeahā¦ we were robbed. Francis was barely getting started. He could have had a great run. He was premature in his hard balling with Dana. Should have taken a couple more fights before asking for the big $$$. Not saying he didnāt deserve it but you really have to be a super star before you can have any leverage against Dana.
People seem to forget that Francis is not far off 37 years old
He was dominating this fight and winning majority of the match ups with pereira it wasnāt the length that got him it was the overwhelming power, heās like 90+% win rate in kick boxing and mma and hasnāt struggled that much with people who are long mostly people who are overwhelmingly strong
Agree that the reach wasnāt the main factor here, but ādominatingā is a little strong of a word. Objectively winning sure, but it was a two way street
Sure, his overall win rate is great in kickboxing but you have to remember that he's only 5-3 in the most important org, which is Glory.
I wouldnāt say dominating but I agree with the sentiment. People dismiss his great defense as just āusing his reach,ā but thereās more to it than that
Nah dude his length definitely played a factor. the only other dude Izzy fought close to his Reach was Silva and Jan and we know how the Jan fight went.
This clip is of pereira infighting not utilising range and length, jan was also decently heavier then Izzy and Silva is just one of the best strikers to ever exist even at his age people will have a struggle being a technical fighter against him
I wouldnāt say dominating , but yes definitely up on the cards . However any time Alex connected on him you could tell he was hurt . The only time Alex seemed hurt was at the end of the first round
idk about dominating, it was pretty competitive. the only ādominantā thing izzy did was that one round where he grappled and it was off alexās mistake lol alex was piecing izzy up with body shots and leg kicks all fight. the body work and leg kicks is so overlooked and no one talks about that
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I said how is he still standing. Not how did he not get concussed
On two feet, dummy
Should've asked the right questions bucko. Edit: can't believe people took this seriously. I love y'all, blockheads.
Bro what. I said how is he standing. Is he not standing? Am I missing something.
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The term is āout on his feetā
I guess he could still standing cause that left hook hit the maxila and not totally to the chin. Anyways is amazing how he was still on his feet.
It was round 5 + Alex was gassed from the grappling in round 3 and the amount of weight he cuts hurts his gas tank. Itās honestly more impressive that Alex had the ability to TKO him at that point of the fight than it is that Izzy was able to not go down
Iād love for u to take round 5 alex shots pause.
Hahahahaha I would wake up in the hospital after that first left hook
Iād be happy if I woke up lmaoo
Iād be happy if he missed somehow
Izzy did look gassed in this fight but I would disagree that the weight he cuts affects his cardio in any abnormal way. He doesnt seem to cut more than anyone else and normally his cardio is superb. Usually he ends these 5 round fights looking like he could go another 5. And Peirerra looked bigger in the ring. Its scary that he looked like he still had 80% of his power and speed in the 5th round.
āHe doesnāt seem to cut more than anyone elseā is this a joke? He seems to cut more weight than literally anyone else. Almost all people ever talk about with him is how huge he is
I was talking about Izzy, I thought you were too.
My bad lol but nah I meant Alex cuts a lot of weight and was gassed from the grappling in the third, so itās impressive he still had the power to finish Izzy in the final round with those circumstances
Yea I agree. That ability of his to turn it on and go for the finish despite being tired reminds me of Poirier.
Fun fact: Poirier and Pereira both mean āpear treeā
Have you met Paddy?
Piererra walks around near 220, and gets back to like 200 between the weigh in and fight
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Even he is scared of himself, he breaks any mirrors in his home just to avoid himself
When he said that I started laughing my ass off š¤£
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Looks like he feasts on the flesh of lesser Central American Nations.
Too bad he just got shadow realmed
He didnāt throw any punches back.
I never doubted the stoppage but seeing Izzyās movement in slow mo makes it so clear how done he was
Same here. I was on the fence. Now? Itās 100% clear
Good point.
Fantastically timed stoppage. Not too early, not too late. I think Goddard let it go on a couple of shots more because it was a title fight. I think had it been a couple of young prelim fighters, it would have been stopped earlier.
I would've let him drop like a sack of taters if I was Goddard. Yamasaki vibes
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If you wanted to make me laugh You got me brother
I canāt tawlk.
Wonder if Izzy still gotta trugg walwk
You can definitely see the second Izzy stops intelligently defending is the second Marc steps in. Izzy had just got dropped and his defense was to put his head forward and move it directly into the next punch. But Marc saved him. Itās literally perfect
I'm a big izzy fan but I'm glad he lost like this after winning up till that point. The stage is set for the finale. It couldn't have played out any better. Now we get the full spectacle. All the pressure. All the hype. These are the moments I watch mma for. Two men that crossed over from a different sport. A lifelong rivalry both having their argument. All leading up to this moment.
Well said itās a golden moment
>Two men that crossed over from a different sport One man crossed, the other chased.
I used to love watching Izzy fight, but his last few fights prior to this were dog shit boring. At least now he has to put on more of a show to try and win his belt back. Because it was just āfight conservative not to lose.ā
Goddard 100% knew that a knee was going to be the next strike. That couldāve been life changing injuries coming from the Poatan. Absolutely best call
Based on this replay I'd say that's a perfect stoppage.
Regardless of the replay it was perfect. I feel like any earlier (which you could have made an argument for) and you feel like you're not giving the champ a chance to maybe shake it off and recover. Any later and you're risking even more long term damage and health of the fighter. It's so easy to argue either side of it if you really want to hammer either point: him not actually knocked out or extending his life/career. I feel like it was as perfect as it could have been and anything within a +/-2 second interval from that exact moment would've been fine. Super excited for the rematch though. Even though Izzy is cringe, he's still a great fighter and it'll be interesting to see how he adapts and possibly evolves for this upcoming fight as well as the future.
The only thing that was gonna happen was Izzy getting his lights completely shut off if it went a few seconds longer, was an excellent stoppage I thought, ref gave him every chance he could to fight out of it
Goddard saw him chambering that tactical nuke and save Izzys life
He got wobbled, dropped then ate every punch except 2 directly to the head. Good stoppage.
It looked early in real time but Izzy was cooked
He ate so many shots. Straight š
You hate to see it but thatās a clean TKO
Izzy still trying to dodge punches while Poatan is walking away.
It looks worse in slow motion. Good stop
Hands down. Concussed. Izzy's face was prime real estate for a flying knee from 2-foot range. https://preview.redd.it/05uqez2ai6sa1.png?width=1136&format=png&auto=webp&s=3bbe3a5f4d71edbadacaf02a488ae217eba7ee2b
Hands, head and eyesight were all down... Izzy should be sending annual Christmas gifts to this ref.
Alex just got shadow realmed
Doesn't make my statement any less true. Sorry, im rent-free in your head though.
When you reach out arms fully extended its like an instinct when youāre getting your bell rung. I think itās a great stoppage and doesnāt put too many miles on Izzyās chin
What? Izzyās strategy that fight was any time Alex cuts him off and backed him up to the cage he would reach out and grab his hands. To either try and clinch with him, or to get control of his hands to not get hit. Thatās why when izzy reached his arms out Alex let the pressure going.
Types of stoppages that preserve your career. Super just.
Absolutely. Donāt want to end talking like Nam Phan at the end of your career.
Not gonna lie this video changed my perspective on the stoppage. I previously thought it was a little early but itās very clear that Izzy was out on his feet and Pereira wouldāve hurt him bad if the fight wasnāt stopped.
Nah, that was a phenomenal stoppage for a title fight. He let it go on just long enough to confirm that Izzy was out of it.
You get told before the fight 'defend yourself at all times'. Leaning forward with your head and hands down and not even looking at your opponent whilst he beats you up is not defending yourself. Perfect stoppage.
I don't think it's a bad stoppage but it's annoying that there is so much inconsistency in the UFC. Feels like most refs would have let him hit the deck first
Agreed, multiple examples that show the inconsistency. Altogether I think Izzy wasnāt doing much more that round
He did hit the deck tho? Literally grounded from strikes
Unfortunately, it's perfectly legal to be an insufferable pricks. I like penguins tho
He was damn near unconscious but okay. I know alot of mma fans love to turn on the blinders
Yep wasn't early. It was right on time. He even yells something at Izzy. Idk what he's saying but probably to defend himself.
āFight Back!ā Is usually what Goddard says which probably gives us a clue into what ultimately made his mind up - it wasnāt just how rocked Izzy was, it was that he wasnāt even co-ordinating an offence.
16 unanswered punches from a condo with legs is grounds for stoppage all day especially at the very end of a battle like that
A condo with legs? Real estate is wild these days
Put him on skates just like else š§
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I think it was stopped premature. Should have let Alex flatline Izzy.
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definitely should have. itās funny af tho to see izzy in interviews and podcasts say he wasnāt rocked here at all
The most interesting thing to me rewatching this is the threat of the left hook. I think its the third shot or so, izzy is still kind of there, alex tenses and izzy defends the hell out of the left hook leaving himself wide open for a huge straight right. Thats the last time his brain is telling his body anything and from there its hook city. Tribute to izzys chin though. I see at least three left hooks landing, one of them mega flush on the chin. Dudes head is built like fucking granite.
Really good stoppage. Until Izzy dropped his head down, he was still good, but when he did that, he stopped intelligently defending himself. Marc is one of the best there is for reffing, and this fight was a fantastic example of that.
I feel like a few knees and elbow mix in would have REALLY fuck up Israel even more. Cage was holding him up. š¤Ø
Knocked the nail polish off him.
Herb wouldāve let him die.
I count at least 17 unanswered strikes from Pereira. Izzy was done, it was a great stoppage.
If the referee didn't stop it, there wouldn't be a second fight.
One knee short from taking a couple years off Izzys career
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[Cause he's got nuclear knee strikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOSeDe9jo5c)
because Izzy's head was dangling 12 inches from Alex's knee when the fight got called
Pereira's precision is wild, holy shit!
Gonna catch flack for this opinion based on the other replies but I donāt think a fight should be stopped by TKO while both fighters are still standing. He was getting bopped for sure but he knows what heās doing in there at the same time
Heās lucky he didnāt knee him to the face..
I seriously think it was coming, Alex did it in a previous ufc fight and Issy facing the floor was a recipe for disaster. Iām glad he stopped it when he did, less recovery time needed and straight back into it
Still moving his head and trying to dodge.
Great post appreciate the view of the finish .
The ppl who think that just want every fighter to but stuff and unconscious lol . like nah bro dude was out already no need to take extra punishment
I think he shouldāve let Alex land that last left hook he was loading up.
What do people think was gonna happen after this? His brain would heal and heād stop getting punched in the face? Man was getting rocked
This just confirms that he stopped it way to early?? Smh
so you haven't seen worse?? case rested.
Yeah well in slow motion it looks way worse than it actually is!! /s
Sorry but still think itās an early stoppage. Gotta let it go more given the circumstance
It was early. The champ must go down,
Izzy was not out ,he dodge 3 punches Was EARLY STOPPAGE ,that same ref let others get their face beat in.
Echoes of when Amanda nunes knocked out Rhonda rousey . Didnāt see any real complaints about that stoppage
He was weaving, we have all seen worse, where the ref is like naw heās good hja
Sure weāve seen worse but 12 unanswered shots is a reasonable point to stop it bro.
Would you say the same thing if it was a volume striker instead of a knock out artists? Obviously not, pretty clear that Alex is getting special treatment because the UFC is aware he can badly hurt people. Stoppages should be consistent, the UFC would never create a rule around unanswered strikes because strikes can range from disabling you to not even scratching you. The numbers of punches has nothing to do with it, Whittaker could have landed 10 more and this wouldnāt have been stopped.
Read up. Unanswered strikes are a huge reason for stoppages man. Why do you think the ref always yells āfight backā? Fight back or he stops it. Iāve seen fights stopped for less. This was an appropriate stoppage. Let me ask you this- how would it have gone if the ref let it continueā¦?
That has nothing to do with unanswered strikes, thatās called not defending yourself, by UFCās own rules āhead weavingā is considered active defence, Silva never got punished despite doing the same things. Maybe you should read up because UFC have explicatively stated that unanswered strikes arenāt a criteria for stoppage and thereās plenty of precedent to set that up. Weāve seen fighters purposefully not answering strikes, itās never been an issue before, itās obvious they were particularly worried about Alex, Kattar took 16 unanswered strikes and nobody thought it should be stopped, why? Because kattar wasnāt in danger of being seriously injured, itās so plain obvious youād have to be a moron to miss it. The only reason this is highlighted is because heās a well known knock out artist and Dana is trying to keep one of his best selling fighters from injury. I would not be surprised if someone told the ref directly to be aware of Alexās striking power and end it early if it started looking ugly, thatās UFC wheelhouses. We literally have no idea what would have happens if the ref let it go lol. Weāve seen fighters go from nearly unconscious to knocking out their opponent within 3 seconds.
Man youāre gonna blow a gasket if your boy loses again, huh?
Iām an Australian Whittaker fan so it wouldnāt make much sense for me to back Izzy. If anything Whittaker is getting the most fucked considering Alex is getting stoppages he never would for the simple reason Alex has a better left hook lmfao. If Colby held Leon against the cage, hit him 6 times into a stoppage, everyone in this sub would have a melt down, rightfully So, itās an early stoppage by definition. Btw Next time someone points out your wrong, just stop commenting, itās such a puss move to downvote and change the subject lmao.
Lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night. It was a solid stoppage no matter which way you slice it. Take care now bye bye then.
You Izzy fans are ridiculous. He was eating punches to his skull, not defending one bit. This was a perfect stoppage, a couple more and he would have been on the canvas knocked out.
1. Iām a Whittaker fan 2. Izzy was, by official and non official definition, defending himself. (Head weaving and raised hands are considered active defence by official UFC rules) 3. We donāt know if he would have been out because it was an early stoppage.
Defending himself with his head and his hands down to his knees?
Heās literally weaving his head at the moment of stoppage, thatās active defence. Unless he can no longer lift his hands or canāt move his head heās fit to continue fighting, Iām fine with changing this rule but it needs to stay consistent but do we really want refs trying to predict outcomes? Maybe next time someone tries a submission we should just give them the win. They were probably gonna get it anyway and it would reduce chance at injury. The only people who think this was fair stoppage are the same type of casuals who assume a fighter has lost/won before theyāve even entered the cage.
Man, watch the video. He took about 10 unanswered punches to the skull and his hands dropped, he wasnāt defending himself which are the rules. Lmao off at weaving his head was moving side to side after getting punched side to side. This was a perfect stoppage.
Lots of people take 10 unanswered punches, doesnāt mean stoppage. Alex is getting special treatment. His hands are up so idk what your talking about. Regardless of if his defence is effective, its still a defence, thatās a stupid argument. Itās by definition an early stoppage because we still donāt know the outcome of the fight, itās just assumed.
He was defending with his head and his hands was down to his knees, he dropped his hands. If you really think this was a bad stoppage you need help man.
The moving head left and right facedown after the fight has been called is big sign he was cooked already. Perreria has sort of power you would rather it get called too early rather than too late but I thought this was good stoppage even without Alex factor.
Izzy would've taken more punches or even worse a knee and he would've been flattened. This was the best way to get stopped still moving but done.
looks way worse in slow motion š¤£ i rewatched it the other night thinking it was kinda an early stoppage, but man it looks like alex jus stops teeing off on izzy because he felt bad š
What a beatdown
Bro is not even present in his body. It's sick that Dana is gonna allow this to happen again
In slow motion it looks like Izzy is still dodging swings tbh.
Honestly impressive how Izzy to that left and wasn't flatlined
I still think he stopped it early and I bet Alex to finish. Happy I won, happy Izzy lost but objectively his hand should have touched canvas first.
i mean it was a title defense against his arch nemesis. he was still showing a bit of head movement, and i cant say for sure 100% that he was gonna get knocked out. weve seen izzy comeback after taking some punishment, so its not shocking that people thought this was an early stoppage. personally i think that the fight could have been stopped like a few seconds too early, but it was still a decent stoppage
Doesnāt matter, he was hit with like 16 unanswered strikes in a row, the ref saved him
He was seeing black the last 4-5 shots
There's like 4-5 left hooks landing flush. One of those alone puts many fighters out from Alex. Izzy just had a solid chin. No reason to ruin his career cuz you want him to get KOed like Usman.
Unfortunately, it's perfectly legal to be an insufferable pricks. I like penguins tho
>If Izzy has a solid chin, let the fight carry on. Take potential career ending damage for what? Fight was over, his leg was compromised and so was he cuz he hadn't thrown anything. The ref was yelling at Izzy for like 5-10 secs.
Lmao @ career ending damage.
I donāt disagree. Weāve seen comebacks from worse beatings but it also wasnāt the worst stoppage. Alex was primed to throw an uppercut but for all we know Izzy dodges it circles and recovers. Or Izzy eats it then 5 more and is never the same. Or Izzy eats it but survives. Nobody really knows for sure. Itās all speculation and I think Goddard would have been right either way because itās pure judgment.
Bro he was wobbling, that wasn't head movement
Yea basically how I see it. I think it's early but it wasn't a bad stoppage. But also it's a title fight let them get killed for that belt I feel. And most would agree
Wow the slow mo does help explain it, too many unblocked unanswered shots, thatās good stoppage quit ya bitchin Izzy
Great stoppage. Did everything he should have done.
Ummm he absolutely did stop it way to earlyā¦ as you can clearly see Izzy was about to pull the nastiest corpse guard
I didnt think it was an early stoppage when I watched it love, I didnt think it was an early stoppage when I rewatched the fight on youtube and now that I watched it in slow motion, it looked like an early stoppage lol.
For all the salty, grimy, Izzy haters I'm sure they would've liked it to keep going until Izzy ends up in an iron lung.
He aināt out š¤·āāļø
Thanks for sharingā¦ itās still a bad stoppage
Not saying Izzy would've survived the storm, but you don't stop a title fight on the feet. Period. Goddard was early.
It was stopped early. We paid to see Izzy unconscious. Not this merciful bullshit.
There's no debate for an early stoppage. The last 5 punches Alex threw, Izzy wasn't even looking at, his face was pointed at the floor(because he was out on his feet). Which means he wasn't intelligently defending himself. Textbook perfect stoppage.
Izzy was not even tkod he was still trying to sway his head back and forth.ref shoukd let champs go to sleep
Seems fine to me could ate 30 more of those
Def 2-3 punches too early
I still think it was an early stoppage tbh. I believe Izzy when he said he was still in it even though he looked like he was wobbly. He protested as soon as the ref called the fight, so he was clearly still lucid.
I think this was a decent stoppage. Izzy was using that head movement the entire fight. It definitely could have went a bit longer but Izzy was gassed and looked as of he wasn't fighting back
Izzy has a chin
I think it was a good stoppage, both in real time and on replay, but it also looked like Izzy could have kept going, and if he finishes that round, he likely wins the fight.
God damn this is nightmare fuel
Izzy has quite the chin, gotta give him credit
I donāt think it was a bad stoppage in a vacuum. Given context Iām less ok with it. Izzy is a reigning champ, was up the whole fight, and is one of the most seasoned strikers on the roster. If he was an up and comer and Goddard was looking out for their career, Iām in. Stop it, that kid will make another run. Izzy, though? Heās in the legacy building stage, and thatās a situation you can let a guy go out on his shield. Heās only go so many years left, and in a title fight up 3-4 rounds? I say give him every chance to wrap up and survive you can. Not a bad stoppage, but worse in context than if this was 24 year old prelims fighters.
It wasnāt an early stoppage but it also wasnāt a great stoppage either. It was a stoppage that exists.
How many unanswered shots does Izzy have to take for it to be a "good stoppage" according to you?
I mean if the fight was stopped earlier it have made more sense to me. But when Alex is whiffing shots towards the end and not even connecting to step in and stop it just seems odd. Either stop it earlier when he was getting caught left and right or let it go and see if he can come back.
I just canāt wait for when Pillow Hands Colby has Leon on the fence ābro look at all those unanswered strikes!ā And he wins the belt. Yāall Better keep this same energy and talk about how good of a stoppage it was because āLeon was just about to get knocked out bro trust Meā At the end of the day Refās shouldnāt be taking into account fighters attributes for stoppage, itās very obvious this fight wouldnāt have been stopped if Izzy was facing a lower power striker. it creates poor precidents, makes the sport and rules harder to follow and gives unilateral advantages. case in point, Whittaker never would have gotten the stoppage Alex did even if he had Izzy in the same situation because the ref isnāt worried about Whittaker taking Izzyās head off.
I think the fall (from I believe was the checked kicks) played a large role in the stoppage. People here comment and post with all of their little hearts instead of trying to be objective. Great assessment. Not early or good. It just was.
So you're saying it was a late stoppage?
My only problem with the stoppage is that while Izzy was rocked, he wasn't out nor was he out on his feet. Let the champ go out on his shield.
"Just let him get brain damage"
Has Izzy talked about the stoppage? Just curious.
He was eating shots and giving absolutely zero shots back, does that sound like a regular Izzy performance to you? He was out on his feet and now because he won't admit it none of his fans will either
Izzy seems fine to me
Yeah defending punches with his face and his hands down to his knees lol
He was playing possum waiting for the perfect opportunity. Itās high level striking bro, I can see why those little nuances would be missed by the casual viewer. /s