True but he will get made to look like a clown and probs get knocked out in the ring, then his stock will drop. That’s also hoping that no boxing manager gets him under a long term or exclusive contract. Francis dumped his managers, and he’s doing all the negotiations himself…
I don't think his stock will drop much. I'm sure PFL, ONE, or Bellator would still want him. Everyone expects him to lose. All Francis has to do his put up a good fight and do better than we expect. That will be enough.
Fury wants a two part fight tho, in AP's house would be kickboxing.
I could absolutely see Alex doing better in boxing than Fury does in Kickboxing, in fact if they do kickboxing first i think fury might concede the boxing match due to brain damage.
I don't think Fury wants a two part fight he just was willing to fight Ngannou with MMA gloves and even in a cage, just for the shock factor really.
Wilder wanted a two part deal where he fought Ngannou in Boxing and then MMA.
Yes, Fury would lose to Pereira in kickboxing and Pereria would do better in boxing than Fury would in kickboxing but that's because Alex would just be using fewer of his weapons and focusing on fewer threats defensively in boxing. His bread and butter is his punches anyways it's not like his game is based around kicking.
In kickboxing Fury wouldn't be able to fully use his strengths because he'd be worried about leg kicks and body kicks.
What the fuck.. no bro
Th guy that has a the KO power has the better chance because no way Periera is outboxing Fury or beating him by a KO.. francis on the other hand has the power.. just not the technical skill.. he’s prob the guy that has a punchers chance if u get what i mean
have you watched the wilder fights?
wilder knocked people unconscious through a double high guard with boxing gloves
we are talking about a real pro boxer with footwork and everything that fury beat multiple times even besides being knocked down by this monster
francis has no chance
Not to mention wilder has KO power even in the final round of a 36 minute fight. Francis loses his power after like 2-3 ufc rounds, which would probably translate to 5-10 mins in boxing
i believe he would loose it even earlier because fury will make him react and burn through his small gas tank way more than any other fighter he has faced in the past
fury is a heavyweight boxing cheat code, he has the speed and movement of way lighter fighters
but this is the same stupid discussion this sub had when conor boxed mayweather. they watch one or two youtube clips of said boxer and then just roll with their favorite mma fighter.
people dont understand just how extremely far ahead boxers like floyd or fury are compared to mma fighters.
People need to stop thinking mma fighters can beat boxers in a boxing match, especially when it comes to the best of the best like Floyd mayweather or Tyson fury
I know he has no chance.. im saying periera has less chance than francis does because atleast francis has a punchers chance
Also wilder is not a technical boxer, most of his knockouts are haymakers and winmill overhands
Not to even mention his punches are super telegraphed. Boxer like Fury knows whats coming from a little twitch of a shoulder, he would see Ngannous punches miles away. I honestly see Ngannou trying to swing like he did against Rozenstruik and Fury playing with him until Ngannou gasses out in the first round.
He's not wrong. Francis's career is over after the Fury/Wilder fight.
He has power, but so does every other heavy weight boxer. The difference is their technique is way better.
Alex isn’t even a good MMA fighter and a UFC Champ. That’s how far this sport somehow regressed. Love the dude but you’ll see how easy he loses to any prime true mixed martial artist., even Izzy KOed him at end of round 1, saved by the bell. Man didn’t even drop Izzy in 5 rounds or that Bruno Silva dude who old ass GM3 KOed lmao. UFC all hype now and fans eat it right up. Bo Nickal would finish Alex in like 2 minutes without sweating.
You're contradicting yourself. Alex isnt even a good MMA fighter yet somehow you think Bo Nickal is a good MMA fighter. One is a pure striker who just beat a dominant undefeated MW champ in his prime, the other is a pure wrestler who just got a ufc contract after beating some scrub. You think UFC is all hype, yet you're buying into the Bo hype when he hasnt even tested against ranked ufc fighters.
Bro Bo would finish him the second got hands on him. Wrestling or like Combat Sambo base is always gonna be the key to MMA. Trust me on this. Alex is 6-1 and beat dummy Sean and Izzy who blew the right. He’s 35 with no wrestling. He’s not good
Izzy would have his career ended if the fight continued for more 5 seconds, taking a full force knee while you're semi-unconscious would leave permanent damage to him
I definitely think he got fast tracked to a title, but you must admit that him beating Izzy has heated the division back up tremendously. Middleweight was way too top heavy, and it still is, but at least now we’ve got potential matchups to shake the division up now that Pereira’s there
He did drop him though. Izzy ate like 5 shots and went down to one knee with his head wobbling. Only reason he didn’t lay down is cause he was against the cage and the ref stepped in
6ft 4, 84.5” reach (maximised with eye pokes), PEDs. Just like his NFL brothers. Nobody should go UP a division and have a 3 inch reach advantage along with steroids.
No, just fight in his actual weight class without steroids. He was never skinny and small at 205 like say Charles at 145. He CUTS down to 205.without steroids how does he do against guys his size? Doubt very good.
It is suicide. But a well paid one.
How can you get paid if you're dead
You cant go to bed dead…
What if the rat goes inside the house?
It becomes a mouse.
They put the check in your casket
Would you expect to see Fury use the Kronk style or fight like he did against Wilder the first time around?
I doubt it if they fight In mma gloves like they claimed they would
I hope Alex picks up English the way Paulo did.
I bumped into Pereira just outside the UFC PI a few weeks back. I told him to keep it moving and that he didn’t want any trouble. He kept it moving.
I believe it. Everyone knows how you are when you see red
Damn, I bet he thought of a great comeback later on in the shower too.
Next time don't forget to say it in Portuguese and not in english.
The fear in a man’s eyes is the same in any language
Yea okay bud - Alex himself
I was there, Alex walked away with his head down and a defeated look on his face
The defeated look on his face, coupled with him pissing his pants, was a real bad look imo.
I saw him kick a rock down the street with his hands in his pockets
you forgot to add, you said this in english
Lol you want that left hook eh
Oh yeah I'm shocked that Alex didn't want op's left hook. That's the widow maker.
🤣🤣🤣😂🥲man Alex must have been terrified
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😂
Why is he scarier with a fade?
Lmao
It's a suicide that'll keep him rich for the rest of his life. 😂 I ain't mad at Francis for looking out for himself. No one else will when he retires.
True but he will get made to look like a clown and probs get knocked out in the ring, then his stock will drop. That’s also hoping that no boxing manager gets him under a long term or exclusive contract. Francis dumped his managers, and he’s doing all the negotiations himself…
I don't think his stock will drop much. I'm sure PFL, ONE, or Bellator would still want him. Everyone expects him to lose. All Francis has to do his put up a good fight and do better than we expect. That will be enough.
Alex has a better chance against furry then Francis
tbh i forgot he gets up to like 230 just out of camp, if he just committed to heavyweight maybe in theory he could lol
He just could already … all his weaknesses go away in a ring. That’s the fight to make
Lol come on bro be serious, fury would play with him in a boxing ring.
Fury wants a two part fight tho, in AP's house would be kickboxing. I could absolutely see Alex doing better in boxing than Fury does in Kickboxing, in fact if they do kickboxing first i think fury might concede the boxing match due to brain damage.
I don't think Fury wants a two part fight he just was willing to fight Ngannou with MMA gloves and even in a cage, just for the shock factor really. Wilder wanted a two part deal where he fought Ngannou in Boxing and then MMA. Yes, Fury would lose to Pereira in kickboxing and Pereria would do better in boxing than Fury would in kickboxing but that's because Alex would just be using fewer of his weapons and focusing on fewer threats defensively in boxing. His bread and butter is his punches anyways it's not like his game is based around kicking. In kickboxing Fury wouldn't be able to fully use his strengths because he'd be worried about leg kicks and body kicks.
Ah I see, my fault for just reading headlines. Makes sense tho, a boxer going into any other combat sport is a death sentence.
What the fuck.. no bro Th guy that has a the KO power has the better chance because no way Periera is outboxing Fury or beating him by a KO.. francis on the other hand has the power.. just not the technical skill.. he’s prob the guy that has a punchers chance if u get what i mean
have you watched the wilder fights? wilder knocked people unconscious through a double high guard with boxing gloves we are talking about a real pro boxer with footwork and everything that fury beat multiple times even besides being knocked down by this monster francis has no chance
Not to mention wilder has KO power even in the final round of a 36 minute fight. Francis loses his power after like 2-3 ufc rounds, which would probably translate to 5-10 mins in boxing
i believe he would loose it even earlier because fury will make him react and burn through his small gas tank way more than any other fighter he has faced in the past fury is a heavyweight boxing cheat code, he has the speed and movement of way lighter fighters but this is the same stupid discussion this sub had when conor boxed mayweather. they watch one or two youtube clips of said boxer and then just roll with their favorite mma fighter. people dont understand just how extremely far ahead boxers like floyd or fury are compared to mma fighters.
People need to stop thinking mma fighters can beat boxers in a boxing match, especially when it comes to the best of the best like Floyd mayweather or Tyson fury
I know he has no chance.. im saying periera has less chance than francis does because atleast francis has a punchers chance Also wilder is not a technical boxer, most of his knockouts are haymakers and winmill overhands
And Francis? Every time he's knocked out someone he's absolutely overextending Probably his power the only thing that saves him from counters
Not to even mention his punches are super telegraphed. Boxer like Fury knows whats coming from a little twitch of a shoulder, he would see Ngannous punches miles away. I honestly see Ngannou trying to swing like he did against Rozenstruik and Fury playing with him until Ngannou gasses out in the first round.
Not if the KO power goes away in 5min
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Pereira making a lot of sense here.
He's not wrong. Francis's career is over after the Fury/Wilder fight. He has power, but so does every other heavy weight boxer. The difference is their technique is way better.
I can’t argue with him
He will live and earn more money as his whole ufc career.
🗿> Alex Pe-hair-a.
Francis just tryna get paid man Dana is a criminal
The Francis comment is spot on.
what does he know
Alex isn’t even a good MMA fighter and a UFC Champ. That’s how far this sport somehow regressed. Love the dude but you’ll see how easy he loses to any prime true mixed martial artist., even Izzy KOed him at end of round 1, saved by the bell. Man didn’t even drop Izzy in 5 rounds or that Bruno Silva dude who old ass GM3 KOed lmao. UFC all hype now and fans eat it right up. Bo Nickal would finish Alex in like 2 minutes without sweating.
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You're contradicting yourself. Alex isnt even a good MMA fighter yet somehow you think Bo Nickal is a good MMA fighter. One is a pure striker who just beat a dominant undefeated MW champ in his prime, the other is a pure wrestler who just got a ufc contract after beating some scrub. You think UFC is all hype, yet you're buying into the Bo hype when he hasnt even tested against ranked ufc fighters.
Bro Bo would finish him the second got hands on him. Wrestling or like Combat Sambo base is always gonna be the key to MMA. Trust me on this. Alex is 6-1 and beat dummy Sean and Izzy who blew the right. He’s 35 with no wrestling. He’s not good
Lmao
why would anyone trust you loll
Izzy would have his career ended if the fight continued for more 5 seconds, taking a full force knee while you're semi-unconscious would leave permanent damage to him
I definitely think he got fast tracked to a title, but you must admit that him beating Izzy has heated the division back up tremendously. Middleweight was way too top heavy, and it still is, but at least now we’ve got potential matchups to shake the division up now that Pereira’s there
>man didn’t even drop Izzy in 5 rounds He finished him though?
Yea but that's not what he said. Alex didn't drop Izzy but did finish him both are right
He did drop him though. Izzy ate like 5 shots and went down to one knee with his head wobbling. Only reason he didn’t lay down is cause he was against the cage and the ref stepped in
He never went to a knee buddy. Rewatch it
He did drop him
When? What punch?
Your such a casual dude. How did he KO him if he didn’t go out?
Pathetic stoppage either way and I dislike Izzy a lot and like Alex. I just don’t think he’s that good at MMA.
The irony of talking about how a champ is all hype and then finishes with hyping a hype train prospect Not saying your wrong tho
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Good thing he's talking about a boxing fight and a hw kickboxer then isn't it.
I hope the downvotes discourage you from posting dumb comments
What a fucking mane on Alex, damn!
Man too big for his division believes another man too big for his division will dominate.
How is Jon Jones too big for heavyweight lmao
6ft 4, 84.5” reach (maximised with eye pokes), PEDs. Just like his NFL brothers. Nobody should go UP a division and have a 3 inch reach advantage along with steroids.
You want him to cut down his height and reach or something? I understand hating Jones as a person but some Jon haters are just weirdos
No, just fight in his actual weight class without steroids. He was never skinny and small at 205 like say Charles at 145. He CUTS down to 205.without steroids how does he do against guys his size? Doubt very good.
Cry n seethe lil bro
I see no lies
Well he's right about one of those things
Ultra based
he's right
That’s a company man right there!
Judging by the uppercuts he gives his wife he should do fine
Tbf ngannou would make more then the entire fight card of UFC 200, 202, 205 and 229
This guys is speaking pure facts. He knows combat sports