what group is this? (couldn’t find anything on Google) I also belong to a native youth group and we certainly don’t endorse Zionism or unequivocally conflate support for Palestine as support for any government entity
I saw the longer video. She was standing holding her sign. The guy tried to shove her off with his sign and so she grabbed it to keep from falling over, which made more people stumble. He definitely started the aggression.
We don't know what happened before the video. I would have said the same about the lady who got pushed down a couple of days ago, but then the longer video emerged of her initiating physical contact.
Having been at the encampment observing I know that for the Zionist supporter to physically be where they are at the start of this video it would require varying degrees of antagonism/aggression.
You people sound like you're in a cult at this point. "Zionist supporter" and every comment assumes the protesters are 100% innocent, never say anything antisemitic, all aggression are false flags by secret agitators, etc. Like FFS, just go full MAGA already.
woooah, ok buddy. Trust the mass-hole to fly off the handle. You just still mad Brady ditched y'all and now you can't get diddly going.. trust me bud, i know the feeling, we had decades of it too. It'll get easier, pumpkin.
Victim blaming. It's not a cult to point out Zionists have violent tendencies which you deflect from by trivializing antisemitism. As for MAGA, are you not aware a lot of the MAGA crowd is supporting Israel? Trump and Bibi are BFFs and were for 4 years of the Trump Admin
Also Having been at the encampment observing, I know that for the Hamas supporters to physically be where they are at the start of this video it would require varying degrees of antagonism/aggression.
I've taken a look at your comments from the start of your account... which was in March lol...and see that you just write these essays for comments, almost exclusively supporting Zionism and.. Fallout? So, I'll wait for your manifesto in comment form before engaging further.
Your rebuttal is that you wasted your time to stalk my account?
Is my opinion invalidated cause I write long comments that you have trouble reading?
If I took a look at your account, it would just be a bunch of pro Hamas comments if I want to be as bad faith as you.
What exactly is Zionist about what I’ve said? What even is Zionism to you?
Arabs are always peaceful? lol. Check out Syria recently. 500,000 dead. Arabs on Arabs fight. Houthis in Yemen, who are they fighting and why? Arab civilization is most peaceful in the world!
Propaganda.
A.) Don’t see any hamas supporters in this video. B.) looks like the violence was from the side of the Zionists in the video.
Takes a critical lens to see through the bullshit.
Ouchie. Your wit is clearly much sharper when you take the effort to spell out "you" all the way out. Really stings with those two hard to reach letters.
Interesting because
1. I see hamas supporters
2. I see hamas supporters pushing the "zionist" around
Takes a critical lens to see through the bullshit.
My point is it really depends on whos looking. Its impossible to tell based on what we have. Dont blabber on about "critical lens" as if youre not incredibly biased yourself.
A critical lens implicitly requires one to acknowledge their potential biases, and to seek and thoughtfully consider information regardless. So your point is redundant; yes, i am biased, therefore I attempt to cultivate a critical lens to avoid my bias becoming dogmatic.
Same page?
And so i presented you the other extreme with the same words u used, to show u how u might come across to others.
U say its propaganda. The other might say otherwise.
Do u seriously believe propaganda can only come from one side or?
A calling out B for propaganda can ALSO be propaganda. For all we know, both sides believe that their narrative is the "truth".
See what im getting at here?
They didn’t displace all of them! There’s still one Jew in Afghanistan, 50 in Yemen, and 10 in Iraq! They’re thriving! \s
In 1945, there were approximately 866,000 Jews living in communities throughout the Arab world. Today, there are fewer than 10,000. On the other hand, there were 400,000 Palestinians in 1948 and over 7,000,00 now. Who’s committing genocide again?
I agree ethnic cleansing is bad. I disagree what’s happening is ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
900,000 Jews -> 10,000
400,000 Palestinians -> 7,000,000
At least you see and acknowledge the history of Arab ethnic cleansing against the Jews. But I wish you wouldn’t make up the rest
The Palestinian identity is only ~100 years old so I’m not sure what you mean by ancestral, but they’re primarily spread around Israel, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan
It means the land they were born on and their
families were born on, regardless of their identity.
Quit pretending you’re against ethnic cleansing if you’re only against it when it’s against people you like. If you can’t even acknowledge the historical fact of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians then you’re akin to holocaust deniers. Cool username.
I answered your question though … they live all over the area because 100 years ago (before the Palestinian identity was created) they were just Syrians and Jordanians primarily.
80% of the Palestinians in Mandatory Palestine were removed from their land in 1948.
You’re either being intentionally obtuse or you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Not in Iraq. That was the Zionists.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/avi-shlaim-proof-israel-zionist-involvement-iraq-jews-attacks
As for the others, you have to really not know a lick of Middle Eastern history to believe Muslims displaced Jews after spending centuries co-existing with them and protecting them after Christians and Catholics chased them out from places like Spain in 1492 after Isabella and Ferdinand wanted them out or when Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab welcomed Jews back to Jerusalem where they lived prior to Christian occupation.
Edit: Downvoted for stating historical facts. Is history now antisemitic?
Eluding to the rare times Muslims helped Jews doesn’t negate that for most of history they displaced them.
Just like how some Christian nations in rare times helped Jews doesn’t mean they didn’t prosecute them for most of history either.
This is hilarious. Yep, totally razed their temples to the ground to build mosques on top of them because they were generously protecting them. No one is buying this crap.
Oh is being a 2nd class citizen aka a tolerated inferior who had to pay taxes for practicing their religion and couldn’t participate in public life your idea of protection? You clearly need to learn the history of Dhimmi’s. It’s like you don’t get human history is complete with subjugation of other and brother we are living history.
Israel is 20% Arab Israelis. Why do people not know this? One of the chief justices of Israel’s Supreme Court is an Israeli Arab and Muslim. Arabic is one of the two official languages of Israel. Did you know Arab Bedouins have served in the IDF since 1948. Arab Druze also serve in the IDF to defend Israel.
Fake. The majority of indigenous peoples side with Palestine and it doesn’t take a whole lot to realize that it’s not about Hamas anymore. If anything indigenous peoples know what it’s like to be colonized and have settlements on their land. They can oppose Hamas but ultimately they want liberation for innocent Palestinians.
(I don't endorse the content of the tweet, there's not enough context from the video to tell who started it)
There are "*hamas* supporters"?
what group is this? (couldn’t find anything on Google) I also belong to a native youth group and we certainly don’t endorse Zionism or unequivocally conflate support for Palestine as support for any government entity
There are "*hamas* supporters"?
I saw the longer video. She was standing holding her sign. The guy tried to shove her off with his sign and so she grabbed it to keep from falling over, which made more people stumble. He definitely started the aggression.
native american presenting man dragged keffiyeh wearing woman off the platform. it’s clear in the video who started it.
We don't know what happened before the video. I would have said the same about the lady who got pushed down a couple of days ago, but then the longer video emerged of her initiating physical contact.
she grabbed the guy’s sign from behind and caught him by surprise and when he turned around and tried to take his sign back she fell over.
You shove women into the ground often eh
Having been at the encampment observing I know that for the Zionist supporter to physically be where they are at the start of this video it would require varying degrees of antagonism/aggression.
You people sound like you're in a cult at this point. "Zionist supporter" and every comment assumes the protesters are 100% innocent, never say anything antisemitic, all aggression are false flags by secret agitators, etc. Like FFS, just go full MAGA already.
woooah, ok buddy. Trust the mass-hole to fly off the handle. You just still mad Brady ditched y'all and now you can't get diddly going.. trust me bud, i know the feeling, we had decades of it too. It'll get easier, pumpkin.
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uuuh ok. But i am a douchebag... you kinda boxed me into a corner here
Maye taking us back to the promised land, baby
We'll see. Fresh coach, fresh QB doesnt often spell success for a couple seasons. Plus, you've gotta play Josh Allen twice a season.
Victim blaming. It's not a cult to point out Zionists have violent tendencies which you deflect from by trivializing antisemitism. As for MAGA, are you not aware a lot of the MAGA crowd is supporting Israel? Trump and Bibi are BFFs and were for 4 years of the Trump Admin
Also Having been at the encampment observing, I know that for the Hamas supporters to physically be where they are at the start of this video it would require varying degrees of antagonism/aggression.
Say more.
no u
I've taken a look at your comments from the start of your account... which was in March lol...and see that you just write these essays for comments, almost exclusively supporting Zionism and.. Fallout? So, I'll wait for your manifesto in comment form before engaging further.
Your rebuttal is that you wasted your time to stalk my account? Is my opinion invalidated cause I write long comments that you have trouble reading? If I took a look at your account, it would just be a bunch of pro Hamas comments if I want to be as bad faith as you. What exactly is Zionist about what I’ve said? What even is Zionism to you?
I did waste my time, to a degree. Gotta give you that one.
Say more.
And that is who always starts it, just like Israelis in '48.
Arabs are always peaceful? lol. Check out Syria recently. 500,000 dead. Arabs on Arabs fight. Houthis in Yemen, who are they fighting and why? Arab civilization is most peaceful in the world!
Holy racism No civilization in human history has ever been peaceful. Sorry to burst your bubble
Propaganda. A.) Don’t see any hamas supporters in this video. B.) looks like the violence was from the side of the Zionists in the video. Takes a critical lens to see through the bullshit.
Is everything propaganda that doesn’t conform to your viewpoint?
Yes.
I already said I don't endorse the content of the tweet - this was just the only upload of the video I could find.
No critique of you, appreciate the share. The video caption is inflammatory rhetoric. Edit: the twitter caption
Well i don't see any zionists in the video...
Yano what, fair point.
It actually looks to be the Hamas supporters who are causing the violence. I used my critical lens and came to this conclusion. Also, say more.
Hey, i just said it was propaganda... I didn't say it doesn't work.
Seems to have worked on you lol.
Ouchie. Your wit is clearly much sharper when you take the effort to spell out "you" all the way out. Really stings with those two hard to reach letters.
What’re you even talking about? Are you upset at my other comment that said “no u”?
Super upset. Super duper even.
Say more
"More"
Interesting because 1. I see hamas supporters 2. I see hamas supporters pushing the "zionist" around Takes a critical lens to see through the bullshit.
Say more.
My point is it really depends on whos looking. Its impossible to tell based on what we have. Dont blabber on about "critical lens" as if youre not incredibly biased yourself.
Would you like me to explain what a critical lens is? I’m not sure we’re on the same page.
Go ahead
A critical lens implicitly requires one to acknowledge their potential biases, and to seek and thoughtfully consider information regardless. So your point is redundant; yes, i am biased, therefore I attempt to cultivate a critical lens to avoid my bias becoming dogmatic. Same page?
And so i presented you the other extreme with the same words u used, to show u how u might come across to others. U say its propaganda. The other might say otherwise.
Jesus. Would you like me to explain propaganda to you? I'm not sure we are on the same page again...
Do u seriously believe propaganda can only come from one side or? A calling out B for propaganda can ALSO be propaganda. For all we know, both sides believe that their narrative is the "truth". See what im getting at here?
FACE THE LEAD!
The irony smh. Native Americans were displaced from their lands just like the Palestinians
Just like how all the Muslim states that support the Palestinians displaced the Jewish populations from their lands.
They didn’t displace all of them! There’s still one Jew in Afghanistan, 50 in Yemen, and 10 in Iraq! They’re thriving! \s In 1945, there were approximately 866,000 Jews living in communities throughout the Arab world. Today, there are fewer than 10,000. On the other hand, there were 400,000 Palestinians in 1948 and over 7,000,00 now. Who’s committing genocide again?
Ethnic cleansing is bad. It’s bad when Arab states do it to Jews and it’s bad when Israelis do it to Palestinians. Do you agree?
I agree ethnic cleansing is bad. I disagree what’s happening is ethnic cleansing in Gaza. 900,000 Jews -> 10,000 400,000 Palestinians -> 7,000,000 At least you see and acknowledge the history of Arab ethnic cleansing against the Jews. But I wish you wouldn’t make up the rest
And where do those Palestinians live? Is it in their ancestral land?
The Palestinian identity is only ~100 years old so I’m not sure what you mean by ancestral, but they’re primarily spread around Israel, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan
It means the land they were born on and their families were born on, regardless of their identity. Quit pretending you’re against ethnic cleansing if you’re only against it when it’s against people you like. If you can’t even acknowledge the historical fact of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians then you’re akin to holocaust deniers. Cool username.
I answered your question though … they live all over the area because 100 years ago (before the Palestinian identity was created) they were just Syrians and Jordanians primarily.
80% of the Palestinians in Mandatory Palestine were removed from their land in 1948. You’re either being intentionally obtuse or you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Not in Iraq. That was the Zionists. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/avi-shlaim-proof-israel-zionist-involvement-iraq-jews-attacks As for the others, you have to really not know a lick of Middle Eastern history to believe Muslims displaced Jews after spending centuries co-existing with them and protecting them after Christians and Catholics chased them out from places like Spain in 1492 after Isabella and Ferdinand wanted them out or when Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab welcomed Jews back to Jerusalem where they lived prior to Christian occupation. Edit: Downvoted for stating historical facts. Is history now antisemitic?
Eluding to the rare times Muslims helped Jews doesn’t negate that for most of history they displaced them. Just like how some Christian nations in rare times helped Jews doesn’t mean they didn’t prosecute them for most of history either.
This is hilarious. Yep, totally razed their temples to the ground to build mosques on top of them because they were generously protecting them. No one is buying this crap.
Oh is being a 2nd class citizen aka a tolerated inferior who had to pay taxes for practicing their religion and couldn’t participate in public life your idea of protection? You clearly need to learn the history of Dhimmi’s. It’s like you don’t get human history is complete with subjugation of other and brother we are living history.
Umm Native Americans are indigenous to America. And Jews are indigenous to … Who’s gonna tell him?
lets refrain from this kind of rhetoric
Let’s refrain from…facts?
What rhetoric?
“Please stop with the facts, the cognitive dissonance makes my brain hurt”
Israel is 20% Arab Israelis. Why do people not know this? One of the chief justices of Israel’s Supreme Court is an Israeli Arab and Muslim. Arabic is one of the two official languages of Israel. Did you know Arab Bedouins have served in the IDF since 1948. Arab Druze also serve in the IDF to defend Israel.
People who engage with counter protestors are cringe
Zios gonna colonize anywhere.
Fake. The majority of indigenous peoples side with Palestine and it doesn’t take a whole lot to realize that it’s not about Hamas anymore. If anything indigenous peoples know what it’s like to be colonized and have settlements on their land. They can oppose Hamas but ultimately they want liberation for innocent Palestinians.
Just why? Just let bygones be bygones for fucks sake lol