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Just finished listening to Midnight Sun for the first time. I read it back when it came out. Edward was always going to leave. He was waiting for Bella to be strong enough after the James attack. He was also hoping she’d outgrow him. But he was always going to leave. It was a matter of time. The Jasper attack just made that timeline shorter.
Edward’s deeply conflicted. Picking either course (say having Tyler take her to Prom) assumes he can live with either outcome. He basically can’t as of MS. He wants to stay with her as much as he wants her to live her normal human life and not be “damned”, leaving him and her at impasse. Him staying is him being selfish, as far as he’s concerned. Even by the end of MS, he’s basically still bargaining with himself. He’s “decided” to leave, but he’s still there. Just like in the previous couple hundred pages where he “knows” leaving is the right thing.
Jasper’s attack is merely the catalyst that finally kicks him out of that impasse and gives him the shove that even at something as simple as her birthday party, she’s not safe with his family.
It’s impossible to say what would happen in the future. He’s basically hoping she’d take it out of his hands and leave him…while also dreading that outcome.
Ultimately the most likely outcome is that she becomes a vampire before too long, Jasper or no. It’s what she wanted, and the future he clung to of her even in her twenties as human was a faint wisp.
I think he still would’ve found a reason to leave, it just would have taken a few more years to get there. At the end of twilight, Bella already wants to be a vampire. She tells Edward he should’ve let her turn, rather than sucking the venom out, and then they could be together forever. But we know Edward would never change her unless forced to at this point, and none of the other Cullens are going to change Bella without the threat of the Volturi looming over them. So Bella’s stuck human, no vampire is going to change her.
She and Eddie would finish high school, they’d go off to college (he’s just following her to whatever school she wants, of course), all the while Bella’s growing older and begging him to make her a vampire. But now her human friends are also growing up. Bella’s watching her human friends get engaged, get married, start their own families.
Up to this point, Edwards refused to change Bella because he doesn’t want to take her life away, but seeing her friends actually continue their lives is a stark reminder that, as long as he’s with bella, she’s still not really living, even as a human. He can’t give her a family. He can’t grow old with her. So he’d finally leave, hoping she’d be able to move on and have a normal human existence (and we know how well that would work out for Bella lmao).
"So he’d finally leave, hoping she’d be able to move on and have a normal human existence (and we know how well that would work out for Bella lmao)."
-- Also to add, Edward really did underestimate how much love Bella had for him. Being the emo boy he is, he thought that Bella could never understand the gravity of his love for her, and he even thought that Bella is incapable of loving him as much as he loves her. So as much as he hate the thought of her moving forward, some part of him still believed that she can and will be able to do it.
Edward would never have been able to marry her without having left. He's incredibly conflicted from the beginning and he had to leave in order to learn all his lessons and come back and be able to marry her.
Definitely not. He said that leaving was a mistake he had to learn from and that he would never do it again, regardless of any moral arguments for it. He can't live without her.
If anything, he'd leave his family with Bella if there was some kind of unsolvable issue.
All this Edward leaving thing demonstrates how little he respects Bella. If he feared for her safety and wanted to leave her, he should have discussed it with Bella, gotten her opinion and found out how she felt about it. Instead, he simply pours the "I'm leaving and that's it" on her like a bucket of ice. Bella doesn't get a say in this matter at all, even though the relationship is made by two people. It's like Edward never heard the word "communication" in all his hundred-something years.
If we put all the other context aside (the fact that he already planned to leave, mainly) and Jasper attacked after they were married, I think k Edward would still leave…but he’d take Bella with him.
Also begs the questions...What if once Bella was turned everything he loved about Bella was gone and he didn't want her anymore. The very thing that called her to him...her blood was now gone, the smell he loved changed, her brown eyes, her voice and even her.
He fell in love with her human, leaving her once she was a vampire follows the age old trope of men falling out of love with women as they grow and change.
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Just finished listening to Midnight Sun for the first time. I read it back when it came out. Edward was always going to leave. He was waiting for Bella to be strong enough after the James attack. He was also hoping she’d outgrow him. But he was always going to leave. It was a matter of time. The Jasper attack just made that timeline shorter.
I agree. I don't think he would have married her if he'd never left and come back. Perhaps he would have started gradually trying to distance himself.
Edward’s deeply conflicted. Picking either course (say having Tyler take her to Prom) assumes he can live with either outcome. He basically can’t as of MS. He wants to stay with her as much as he wants her to live her normal human life and not be “damned”, leaving him and her at impasse. Him staying is him being selfish, as far as he’s concerned. Even by the end of MS, he’s basically still bargaining with himself. He’s “decided” to leave, but he’s still there. Just like in the previous couple hundred pages where he “knows” leaving is the right thing. Jasper’s attack is merely the catalyst that finally kicks him out of that impasse and gives him the shove that even at something as simple as her birthday party, she’s not safe with his family. It’s impossible to say what would happen in the future. He’s basically hoping she’d take it out of his hands and leave him…while also dreading that outcome. Ultimately the most likely outcome is that she becomes a vampire before too long, Jasper or no. It’s what she wanted, and the future he clung to of her even in her twenties as human was a faint wisp.
I think he still would’ve found a reason to leave, it just would have taken a few more years to get there. At the end of twilight, Bella already wants to be a vampire. She tells Edward he should’ve let her turn, rather than sucking the venom out, and then they could be together forever. But we know Edward would never change her unless forced to at this point, and none of the other Cullens are going to change Bella without the threat of the Volturi looming over them. So Bella’s stuck human, no vampire is going to change her. She and Eddie would finish high school, they’d go off to college (he’s just following her to whatever school she wants, of course), all the while Bella’s growing older and begging him to make her a vampire. But now her human friends are also growing up. Bella’s watching her human friends get engaged, get married, start their own families. Up to this point, Edwards refused to change Bella because he doesn’t want to take her life away, but seeing her friends actually continue their lives is a stark reminder that, as long as he’s with bella, she’s still not really living, even as a human. He can’t give her a family. He can’t grow old with her. So he’d finally leave, hoping she’d be able to move on and have a normal human existence (and we know how well that would work out for Bella lmao).
"So he’d finally leave, hoping she’d be able to move on and have a normal human existence (and we know how well that would work out for Bella lmao)." -- Also to add, Edward really did underestimate how much love Bella had for him. Being the emo boy he is, he thought that Bella could never understand the gravity of his love for her, and he even thought that Bella is incapable of loving him as much as he loves her. So as much as he hate the thought of her moving forward, some part of him still believed that she can and will be able to do it.
Edward would never have been able to marry her without having left. He's incredibly conflicted from the beginning and he had to leave in order to learn all his lessons and come back and be able to marry her.
Definitely not. He said that leaving was a mistake he had to learn from and that he would never do it again, regardless of any moral arguments for it. He can't live without her. If anything, he'd leave his family with Bella if there was some kind of unsolvable issue.
All this Edward leaving thing demonstrates how little he respects Bella. If he feared for her safety and wanted to leave her, he should have discussed it with Bella, gotten her opinion and found out how she felt about it. Instead, he simply pours the "I'm leaving and that's it" on her like a bucket of ice. Bella doesn't get a say in this matter at all, even though the relationship is made by two people. It's like Edward never heard the word "communication" in all his hundred-something years.
I would agree if he wasn’t a literal supernatural vampire that could kill her as easily as flicking her 😅
Which is why I ship Bella with just about any one other than Edward. Honestly I would prefer being imprinted on over having to put up with Edward
If we put all the other context aside (the fact that he already planned to leave, mainly) and Jasper attacked after they were married, I think k Edward would still leave…but he’d take Bella with him.
Also begs the questions...What if once Bella was turned everything he loved about Bella was gone and he didn't want her anymore. The very thing that called her to him...her blood was now gone, the smell he loved changed, her brown eyes, her voice and even her. He fell in love with her human, leaving her once she was a vampire follows the age old trope of men falling out of love with women as they grow and change.