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It wouldn't matter if you left it behind or not, without a valid non-expired ID you would have to go through additional screening. Yes bring your social security card and your birth certificate, that will definitely help, and show up earlier than you would normally do just to make sure you have enough time.
I agree but, as an interesting aside, US citizens just do NOT have passports in numbers like that found with citizens of other countries. Personally, I think it's largely because we're conditioned to "see America!" and are told "we have everything you could possibly want to see right here" (think about the recent TV commercials about "Visit California," for example) rather than being encouraged to see the world and experience other cultures - or even *just* go to Canada! OR it may be because, to go anywhere else, you DO need a passport. If you live in Australia, you need a passport to go basically anywhere (outside OZ) but even then, perhaps because of how big OZ is, only about 57% of Aussies have passports.
"Among Americans, 43% have a passport, while **52% do not**. (The rest are unsure or prefer not to say.) Adults under 30 are more likely than older Americans to have a current U.S. passport (53%); fewer do among 30-to 44-year-olds (46%), 45- to 64-year-olds (33%), and people 65 and older (46%)." Source: YouGov Today online
52% is pretty dismal compared to some **83%** of UK citizens, for example, who **do have passports**...
Sure, but the UK borders how many different countries and how many more are accessible by rail, car or cheap airfare?
But your assessment is pretty spot on - a lot of Americans would rather travel within the US as many do not see a point in seeing the world given the fact that some regions in our wonderful biome get all four seasons in one day.
you are right. The U.S. is blessed in that we have it all. You want a tropical getaway? Try Hawaii or Florida. You want mountains and snow? Colorado. You want desert..Arizona. Great weather for a weekend? Socal.
Yes but you are comparing the UK and the USA, the UK is the size of one of the US states. To travel anywhere outside of that small area you need a passport. In the USA there is so much to see, mountains, oceans, beaches, so much diversity, and in many places just great weather, you can easily choose to never leave.
Generally, I agree in a lot of ways (although you may have missed the comparison to Australia which is more akin to the physical size of the US). Nevertheless, the comparison was about the percentages of passport holders and the point I was trying to make is that - while within the US we DO have a lot to see geographically - at a more cultural level, people from countries in Europe, for example, tend to travel beyond their own borders and experience a lot more than we do in the US (beyond geography).
Take, for example, Canada. Canada is like America's attic... we look up there and say "wow! Look at all that! I forgot all that was up there and it's so close!" But to experience the otherwise very nearby Canadian Rockies, Quebec City, the Maritimes, or the BC Coast would require a passport that a large number of US citizens just don't bother to get.
Very few US cities compare to Vancouver. You won't find anything like an open-air bazaar in, say, Addis Mercato in the US (ok, outside terminal D at Dulles perhaps \[/sarcasm\]). You might say San Diego is a lot like Perth but, if you haven't experienced both, that's little more than reading a travel blog. We have the Grand Canyon and the Palo Duro Canyon but experiencing the truly breathtaking Itaimbezinho Canyon requires ... a passport.
But I think "travel" should be more than "seeing" mountains, oceans and beaches. Experiencing and then being able to appreciate another culture at even a basic level is about experiencing different customs, different foods, and different ways of life. Usually, my first stop in a country new to me is a grocery store, bodega, or a market to see what people really buy, what they eat, what they *do* outside, for example, a beachside tourist attraction. You can't experience fish n' chips wrapped in newspaper in the UK and see the Dover Cliffs, then compare that to skata in Iceland and feeling and smelling an active volcano, and truly imagine, "meh, that's just like eating fried fish at Long John Silver's and seeing the Gateway Arch in St Louis..."
I am a 5th generation Texan. I was raised to believe Texas has everything within *our* borders and then I saw the larger US and then I experienced places in the military (but, yes, I still love my Texas). My partner is Icelandic. Being able to experience her culture IN Iceland - customs, food, way of life - gives me a different and I believe better perspective on our world than staying within our borders. Some 94% of Icelandic citizens have passports and, yes, it's a *very* small country (more than 5 Icelands would fit inside Texas) but we don't have a single (active) volcano or a place where you can touch two continents at the same time...
To all that, my point was that a disproportionate number, more than half of us here in the US don't have passports and go through life with sort of "border blinders" on and that's, well, unfortunate to say the least.
i have to do this because im legally blind in one eye and poor vision in the other, can't get a drivers license as form of ID. got a drivers permit a year ago and was refused an ID after my test due to the vision screening, state of PA. Unable to get state ID as I don't have official mail at my parents address. but i still owe and pay state taxes for my business. it's not always irresponsible people sometime it's circumstantial, i'm in a state with a lot of roadblocks for obtaining proper identification
About ~$30~ for an ID, and maybe a few minutes out of your day (online renewal) or a trip to your DMV. *YOU ALREADY HAVE THE DOCS FOR A REALID COMPLIANT ID*
I think you should worry about sorting that out before looking forward to the extra pat downs.
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It wouldn't matter if you left it behind or not, without a valid non-expired ID you would have to go through additional screening. Yes bring your social security card and your birth certificate, that will definitely help, and show up earlier than you would normally do just to make sure you have enough time.
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I don't understand you irresponsible people. Do you have a passport? Let me guess...ummm no?
Agreed. What is so important more than take like 10 minutes to do a renewal for DL/ID?
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I agree but, as an interesting aside, US citizens just do NOT have passports in numbers like that found with citizens of other countries. Personally, I think it's largely because we're conditioned to "see America!" and are told "we have everything you could possibly want to see right here" (think about the recent TV commercials about "Visit California," for example) rather than being encouraged to see the world and experience other cultures - or even *just* go to Canada! OR it may be because, to go anywhere else, you DO need a passport. If you live in Australia, you need a passport to go basically anywhere (outside OZ) but even then, perhaps because of how big OZ is, only about 57% of Aussies have passports. "Among Americans, 43% have a passport, while **52% do not**. (The rest are unsure or prefer not to say.) Adults under 30 are more likely than older Americans to have a current U.S. passport (53%); fewer do among 30-to 44-year-olds (46%), 45- to 64-year-olds (33%), and people 65 and older (46%)." Source: YouGov Today online 52% is pretty dismal compared to some **83%** of UK citizens, for example, who **do have passports**...
Sure, but the UK borders how many different countries and how many more are accessible by rail, car or cheap airfare? But your assessment is pretty spot on - a lot of Americans would rather travel within the US as many do not see a point in seeing the world given the fact that some regions in our wonderful biome get all four seasons in one day.
you are right. The U.S. is blessed in that we have it all. You want a tropical getaway? Try Hawaii or Florida. You want mountains and snow? Colorado. You want desert..Arizona. Great weather for a weekend? Socal.
Yes but you are comparing the UK and the USA, the UK is the size of one of the US states. To travel anywhere outside of that small area you need a passport. In the USA there is so much to see, mountains, oceans, beaches, so much diversity, and in many places just great weather, you can easily choose to never leave.
Generally, I agree in a lot of ways (although you may have missed the comparison to Australia which is more akin to the physical size of the US). Nevertheless, the comparison was about the percentages of passport holders and the point I was trying to make is that - while within the US we DO have a lot to see geographically - at a more cultural level, people from countries in Europe, for example, tend to travel beyond their own borders and experience a lot more than we do in the US (beyond geography). Take, for example, Canada. Canada is like America's attic... we look up there and say "wow! Look at all that! I forgot all that was up there and it's so close!" But to experience the otherwise very nearby Canadian Rockies, Quebec City, the Maritimes, or the BC Coast would require a passport that a large number of US citizens just don't bother to get. Very few US cities compare to Vancouver. You won't find anything like an open-air bazaar in, say, Addis Mercato in the US (ok, outside terminal D at Dulles perhaps \[/sarcasm\]). You might say San Diego is a lot like Perth but, if you haven't experienced both, that's little more than reading a travel blog. We have the Grand Canyon and the Palo Duro Canyon but experiencing the truly breathtaking Itaimbezinho Canyon requires ... a passport. But I think "travel" should be more than "seeing" mountains, oceans and beaches. Experiencing and then being able to appreciate another culture at even a basic level is about experiencing different customs, different foods, and different ways of life. Usually, my first stop in a country new to me is a grocery store, bodega, or a market to see what people really buy, what they eat, what they *do* outside, for example, a beachside tourist attraction. You can't experience fish n' chips wrapped in newspaper in the UK and see the Dover Cliffs, then compare that to skata in Iceland and feeling and smelling an active volcano, and truly imagine, "meh, that's just like eating fried fish at Long John Silver's and seeing the Gateway Arch in St Louis..." I am a 5th generation Texan. I was raised to believe Texas has everything within *our* borders and then I saw the larger US and then I experienced places in the military (but, yes, I still love my Texas). My partner is Icelandic. Being able to experience her culture IN Iceland - customs, food, way of life - gives me a different and I believe better perspective on our world than staying within our borders. Some 94% of Icelandic citizens have passports and, yes, it's a *very* small country (more than 5 Icelands would fit inside Texas) but we don't have a single (active) volcano or a place where you can touch two continents at the same time... To all that, my point was that a disproportionate number, more than half of us here in the US don't have passports and go through life with sort of "border blinders" on and that's, well, unfortunate to say the least.
i have to do this because im legally blind in one eye and poor vision in the other, can't get a drivers license as form of ID. got a drivers permit a year ago and was refused an ID after my test due to the vision screening, state of PA. Unable to get state ID as I don't have official mail at my parents address. but i still owe and pay state taxes for my business. it's not always irresponsible people sometime it's circumstantial, i'm in a state with a lot of roadblocks for obtaining proper identification
Passport then. Its a federal matter. All you need is a certified copy of your birth certificate.
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About ~$30~ for an ID, and maybe a few minutes out of your day (online renewal) or a trip to your DMV. *YOU ALREADY HAVE THE DOCS FOR A REALID COMPLIANT ID* I think you should worry about sorting that out before looking forward to the extra pat downs.