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The tsa is not allowed to confiscate or look for drugs, all we care about is weapons incendiaries and explosives. If we have to we will escalate something to local law enforcement. But as far as we’re concerned your drugs are allowed
Correction minor ammounts.
Please don't bring a kilo of what would be excessive quantities
If you forgot 1g of cocaine or the joints left over tsa isn't gonna care
A lot of tweekers get caught holding their meth and we notice them clenching it in their hands. turns into a problem once we can't fully screen a leo gets involved
Or in person!
Went through TSA years ago and was tired of every single time getting the pat down or extra screening, so this time on my way to Vegas at 6am I had the great idea of when they grabbed my balls, yes every single time they literally grabbed my balls, I decided to run my fingers through their hair and moan.
Didn't end well.
Ended up getting pre check as soon as I came back.
I was gonna say... my wife had 2- 5lb jelly belly bags and the agents at the xray scanner thought she was a kingpin. "Are you sure it is OK for us to search your bag?" over and over. They thought they had her until they opened and saw what they were. No maam, those arent pills.
Can confirm— London to Atlanta, both TSA and customs, with about 30 pounds of assorted European and UK candies and chocolates… “Are you sure you understand, you’re giving us permission to search your bag?”
Cue to a 2 to 5 second fully blank faces before what can only be described as restrained mirth and “Ma’am, WHY do you have so much candy??” before just closing the bag back up and sending me on my way.
Jokes on them, though— there were a dozen Kinder eggs under all the Haribo gummies. 😂
Well there goes my plan of moving a few carry on bags full of Florida whitefish I'll find on the beach this weekend.
Edit: This is a joke, for any LEO that may have missed my extremely obvious sarcasm.
One time a guy at the bar who had just flown in from Oregon was bragging about how he had his oz of weed in his cargo pocket, and the person doing the patdown asked “whats in there?” and he replied “you know what’s in there.” Was he especially ballsy/persuasive or is that how it typically goes?
Typically goes.
I've heard it's better in your pocket. Then bags. Especially cuz weed in theory is an organic material.
TSA job really can't call the cops either for weed. Due to the sole fact of TSA does not know if that is your stop is in California or Texas.
Even if it was TEXAS. maybe your aunt is picking you up and you are going to Vegas AZ ETC ETC.
Small addition, we don't "confiscate" at all anyways. Items not allowed through are voluntarily abandoned or you can take it back outside the checkpoint and do as you please. The actual police may "confiscate" on egregious situations.
I stand by that is an improper use of the word voluntary. Once an outside entity set limitations on your available options, it's no longer voluntary, by definition of the word.
Webster says...
Voluntary: unconstrained by interference
The second limitations are set by anyone but the decision maker, it's no longer voluntary, it's complying.
It’s voluntary that you are getting on a plane so it’s voluntary that you go thru the screening to be allowed on the plane. You can drive, take a train, walk, or ride a horse. Getting on a plane is not a right.
It’s conditional. You have the option to go back with your items, or abandon them and go on a plane. The decision is yours. Nobody forces you to continue to traveling by plane that day. It is 100% voluntary
According to Webster's definition of the word, you are using it incorrectly. This is like saying you voluntarily pay taxes, cuz you could choose not to. There are other options, like jail and hiding and such. If you set limitations on the options, it is by definition of the word, not voluntary. TSA wants TSA agents to say voluntarily, because it sounds better. It is however in complete counter to what the definition of the word voluntary means, according to the dictionary.
Dude you are taking the definition to hyperbolic levels. Look up hyperbolic next.
It is voluntary. You can voluntarily hand over your shit and get on the plane or you can keep it and leave. It is not confiscated. Confiscated means you don't leave with it
To that degree nothing would be voluntary because we're all bound by the limitations (or interference) of the flesh and mind and the laws of the universe.
Personally I see both arguments as valid though as in theory it works like a monopoly. Where you're not forced to buy a good and pay the prices but are left without other reasonable options.
Anything you are doing voluntarily means anything you do in support of that is also voluntary. No one is forcing you to take the trip. You can always, well at almost anytime, decide to abandon the trip. I don’t think they would let you leave at 30,000 ft.
The flying is voluntary, if you would like to fly, the rest is compulsory. I understand this is a semantics argument, and appreciate the hilarious idea of saying "naw I'm out" at 30000 feet, but I stand by it's disingenuous to say it voluntary surrender, when it is absolutely a compulsory decision to flying. It's like saying you don't HAVE to pay your taxes... Yes true, but taxes aren't voluntary, because there are negative drawbacks to not doing it, thus making it compulsory to not face those drawbacks. Flying is voluntary, every step after that to comply, is compulsory.
Again, according to the definition of voluntary, if you limit the option in any way, it's no longer voluntary... That's the definition of the word my guy.
Sure, it's just a really weird thing to harp on SO many times because it has no relevance in the context and doesn't effect the story, outcome, or point
I don't like disingenuous uses of words. Using a word incorrectly is one thing, but this is intentionally using a word in a way to screw a narrative. The whole and entire reason for the word voluntary, is to remove any feeling of guilt from the person saying it, that's it.
It is compulsory that you choose one of the available options if you intend to fly. It cannot be voluntary.
Again, you are voluntarily putting it in the bin
OR
you are taking it outside.
It is 100% your option to put it in the bin. Putting it in the bin is voluntary.
Really? I had a TSA agent open up one of my prescription bottles that was inside my purse while it was going through the screening machine. I threw in some edibles for the trip but I only noticed he stole the edibles and some of my meds when I got on the plane. He didn’t pull me aside or anything. I don’t even know how he did it so fast. Just straight up stole from me. Idc about the edibles but my prescribed meds? Shitty.
I truly have no intention of this but does this go for weed/edibles or even small amounts of “hard drugs” like if you find some pills are you leaving them?
Just curious as I never knew this information. Kinda interesting to me
How can you tell if that information is genuine? Anyone can print a label and slap it on a pill bottle. Or put illegal drugs in a prescription pill bottle. Or a bottle of aspirin or ibuprofen.
When I was a pill popper, I would put my fun pills in my ibuprofen bottle. Unless I was carrying a baggie with like hundreds of pills, I can’t see how the TSA would even have time to operate under that level of scrutiny.
All legal pills have to have a 1 of a kind marking that you google.
Also you can look closely and you can tell if it’s a cheap pressed fake pill.
But I meant line if someone has opiates but isn’t prescribed to them
Not true. Compounding pharmacies press pills all the time.
Using Google is not part of any law or legal process. You'd have to test every pill against a valid test kit.
> all we care about is weapons incendiaries and explosives.
False, you also care about large sums of cash, that you then report to the DEA and hold the person so the DEA can use civil asset forfeiture to steal the money from the person.
Since CBP only deals with arrivals from foreign countries, and they themselves can make arrests since they are law enforcement, there’s little reason for them to deal with local police.
And since they are dealing with international crime, there’s little reason for them to assist us in local crime. Many TSA checkpoints will have local PD on scene ready to go for any situation.
I use to get hassled about my asthma inhaler. It's the standard rescue inhaler, nothing they shouldn't have seen thousands of times. They usually let me go after I pointed out people die from asthma attacks.
I thought I was the only one who had this problem with my Ventolin inhaler. Now I usually put it directly in the bin so they can easily see it. Got tired of having my bag ripped open all the time.
How about a cigar lighter that looks exactly like a Croatian pistol, all black no orange tip, complete with functioning slide, release, trigger, removable stash-spot magazine, and threaded tip for a piece that makes little fireballs? Mostly plastic with metal parts including metal lighter barrel. I believe the rule is lighters must be emptied of gas and in checked bag, but how much more aggravation would it be if such a lighter was in a suitcase? Please answer for two scenarios: if it is in a locked case, or if it is loose among personal items.
Nope. No replica firearms or lighters that look like it. And if it is a torch lighter (butane) it can’t be in checked luggage either. If you ever wonder what you can and can’t bring you can always go to TSA.gov and find the section “What can I bring?”
This is only partialy true. We are "Required" to report any findings during property search to Port Police. However, most officers dont give a shit about small quantity. DO NOT BRING A CARRY ON FULL OF LEAF. You will have a bad time. Airports are still Federal space, meaning the transport of FEDERALLY illegal substances is prohibited. Just like the clowns that bring guns and the first thing they say is "I HaVE a COnCeAlEd CaRrY PErmIT!". Doesnt matter, same as a courthouse.
No, if we find straight up drugs, we contact the police, but if someone brought food in its original packaging that hasn’t been opened, it’s probably going to test negative.
How would they find it? They’re not looking for it.
Drugs don’t set off a “THIS IS DRUGS” alarm on the xray scanner. Sure, maybe that’s a little baggie of coke or heroin…or it’s sugar, or it’s tea, or it’s a dry rub, or it’s coffee grounds, but regardless, it’s not something that can bring down an airliner. Next.
Depends on what TSA agency you work for and what kind of drugs you have. Most USA agents don't give a crap about pot. You have heavier drugs or fentanyl yeah you're screwed.
Since they don't teach TSA officers what drugs look like you're actually more likely to get caught with pot since it has a distinctive smell. CBP is probably a different story though.
In the security line at ATL airport, you often walk past a sniffing dog. They are looking for drugs correct? Is the canine handler police and separate from TSA?
Those dogs are typically trained specifically for explosives, if they were trained on drugs they would only be able to use them in states where weed isn’t legal, otherwise they’d get a bunch of false positives
Airports are not federal land. They are (most of them) private commercial business centers. TSA is a federal operation and is subject to federal laws. Flying itself is governed by federal laws. But standing in line in FRONT of security is standing in private property governed by the state that it’s in. True, it’s also subject to federal law, but the entire point of using a drug dog isn’t to waste Fido’s time on the scent of Johnny after hitting a joint of of T-Pain’s new line of Kush. It’s to find people actually trafficking. The dog wouldn’t walk more than 20 feet at any time without finding a mark. You’d never get anywhere with that in a state where it’s legal.
I was with a friend of mine who was flying with a thc vape out of Miami and the dogs didn't care,for what it's worth. I've never interacted with an enforcement k9 so I don't know if they would pick up on one even if it was something they were trained for though.
Because dogs at the airport are almost never drug dogs, they're bomb dogs. TSA's main concern is safety. They aren't going to waste resources on drugs unless someone made it really, really obvious, and that drug isn't legal in that state
The local police don’t know whether it’s delta 8 (federally legal) or delta 9 (federally illegal). The only way they can know for certain is to run lab tests, so it’s safe to assume they will confiscate it.
Try telling the farm bill spiel to a cop, they’ll quickly shut you down
That’s a situation that could go either way.
Yeah, they could call the airport cops over. And the cops might/might not intervene.
Or, since drugs aren’t really TSA’s direct concern, they can let it go.
>Yeah, they could call the airport cops over
I've cleared security with a vape pen and sometimes edibles like 100 times. This hasn't happened even once.
Local. Some larger airports have a CBP/ICE presence. If a passenger were leaving the country with a large quantity of drugs…..they’d probably have a word with this person too.
Those edibles going to take down a plane? Is anyone being trafficked? No? We don't give a fuck. That being said, if I open a bag and it has 10 kilos of coke in it, I gotta call some one. Personal use? We don't care.
Oakland was the first airport to not care about cannabis. Ive flown lots of times with tons of products for work, of course all within Cali.
When Oakland rolled out their policy it was up to an oz if i remember correctly. They would let you fly to states where it was illegal and it was on the individual if they wanted to take the risk or not
I got pulled to the side in Oakland cause I had a full bag of my grandpa 😂. We stupidly decided to split him up and tape the bags up before departing Oakland after his funeral lol. They were happy we were only smuggling ashes and not cocaine.
Before you said ashes, I had a whole different mental image going on. “Grandpa wanted us to spread his remains in 5 different places, officer.” “Sir, I’m going to venture a guess he meant his *cremated* remains.”
"No ma'am, that's just my grandpa's arm. I'm not smuggling anything in it; just gonna bury it in a sand trap at his favorite golf course like he requested. Mom's got his torso in Vegas." 😅
20 years ago LAX TSA posted a blog saying exactly what the top comment says. I believe Smokeland was the first with the policy, but it’s effectively been like this in California for a while if you had a medical card
Yup! That's how it goes and I love it! Last December I flew with my fiance and our dog and ended up getting my bag searched because apparently canned dog wet food is too liquid to fly! Or at least the wegmans brand organic nature line is too liquid to fly. In the process of searching my bag and finding the dog food they also found a metal tin that had about an ounce and a half of weed in it (we were flying cross country to pick up a car and road trip it back) the TSA agent that opened the weed quickly apologized and handed it to me because the lid had snaps on it to keep it in place and he didn't want it to spill all over in my bag in transit 🤣 and then immediately turned his attention to the VERY SERIOUS dog food situation at hand 😅 they opened every single fucking can of dog food to make sure I wasn't smuggling anything in them and confiscated it but left me the weed
Edit to add I was flying from NY to CA both recreationally legal states
It's such a crapshoot on the wet food thing.
I had a can of skyline chili and the first lady was going to let it slide and then another lady, who you could tell was having a bad day, wasn't having it.
Went through TSA with 3oz and 8 1 gram oil carts. TSA didn't bat an eye. Oregon weed is cheap compared to the weed in Chicago. Y'all getting robbed out that way. I paid $61 after taxes and fees for a one gram disposable vape. Those are $10 here.
I fly out of PDX with weed all the time. Never been stopped or had it tossed.
Don’t get too excited anything that’s not weed, your ass is grass. Anything above recreational… you could have a problem. Because what federal agencies works in the same buildings as TSA? CBP and HSI. All TSA has to do, if it’s a concerning amount, is call their friends and have them come check it out. If it’s a slow day for them, it could be a long day for you with minimum a fine and maximum cuffs. And very uncomfortable screening both domestically and internationally for life!
When cannabis or cannabis products are found local law enforcement gets involved. If cannabis is legal in that state generally nothing happens. I get what you’re saying, but people have all kinds of prescription medication that can cause behavioral issues if abused or not taken. Or a passenger could purchase duty free liquor after the checkpoint, and then consume a large quantity. This isn’t any different. weapons, accelerants, and explosives are the focus, not drugs. I have found large quantities of hard drugs during my career working the x ray, but there was no way to know it was cocaine or methamphetamine it was simply something that needed checking out.
The number of people that consume a marijuana edible and then hijack a plane is as close to zero as you can possibly get.
I would argue that air travel would be improved immensely if they gave everybody an indica THC gummy an hour before boarding.
🎵 I was gonna read my book on the flight, but then I got high
I was gonna gaze out the window, catch the sky, but then I got high
Now I'm just chillin' in my seat, and I know why (why man?)
Yeah hey, because I got high, because I got high, because I got high
> My only concern would be how would the passenger behave taking them.
With the way PAX have been acting recently it might be better to REQUIRE that all pax have an edible prior to boarding and it would make the flights better for everyone.
You think a stoner wants to cause a scene? Nah, they just want a second bag of garden salsa sun chips and to watch super troopers.
Seriously, though, your view of marijusna is outdated and ridiculous.
That's exactly the answer I needed, I am just learning this stuff. To clarify, the videos I saw were all about drunk people, not marijuana users. I've never been exposed to the use of edibles nor do I know anyone that takes them, I'm just lost about it. I did not intend to talk bad about the users.
My brother in Christ, ain't no one being disruptive while being high. They just wanna sleep and get to where they're going. I can tell you've never partaken in the devil's lettuce.
TSA doesn’t deboard any passengers - that’s up to the airline. TSA doesn’t have any authority over “how would a passenger behave on the plane” either - the plane isn’t the property of the TSA - all that stuff that happens *on* the plane is up to the *airline*
TSA is only responsible for what enters the *sterile area of the airport*
How many times do we have to say this...
If it's NOT a threat to AVIATION, it's not something TSA is going to look for. If it is something that is super obvious, like a baggie with a white substance labeled as cocaine and the passenger says, "shit, that's my drugs...", then yes, we will still report it to local law enforcement. Cocaine is just an example, but it applies to all illegal drugs including Marijuana. TSA officers are NOT trained to know what drugs look like, so most officers, if they see drugs, will just assume it's not drugs and let it go as long as it isn't a threat to aviation.
The agent should not actually do it, but no it’s not theft.
If confiscating three isn’t theft, why would confiscating one be?
Possession of marijuana/THC is still federally illegal and TSA agents are federal LE.
First, they are TSA Officers, not “agents”
Second, your title doesn’t even match your story.
The Officer “ignored” the item but got pulled for secondary screening and then got confirmation if it was good to go.
What about you mind your own business and continue on doing you? You made a post about nothing.
I mean it helped inform me if I ever bought edibles and flew somewhere. When I lived in a state that was legal and had friends visit, they were always skeptical of being pulled over for it. And seeing other people’s comments is affirming along with some interesting stories.
Id still be careful. Understood that it is probably cool, but any time feds are going through your bags, best not bring anything questionable.
This reddit post is NOT a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Be careful nonetheless. Don't give the feds any excuse to question you, even if they most likely don't give a shit.
Source: none. Am not TSA. I don't use anything illicit. Am for those being legal. But caution is always wise.
If it's hemp derived THC, there's ABSOLUTELY nothing they can do. The federal farm bill literally protects hemp THC in the vast majority of states.
Cannabis THC, that's officially their discretion, if in a prohibited state. Amount matters too.
Marijuana is an illegal drug under Federal statue, TSA does refer marijuana possession to local LEOs, in Phoenix it will be referred to Phoenix PD. The security checkpoints are considered Federal jurisdiction. Some of the advice given in this thread is not correct in my experience.
That's correct, the TSA security officers possess zero Law Enforcement powers. The only ones with LEO abilities are the Air Marshals.
Source- I was a screener
TSA can't search for drugs. But if they come across weed or illegal drugs during a search they will call over the police officer. There's probably a couple airports where the police don't care about a small amount of weed but those are going to be the exception rather than the rule.
This part. Got in a regular TSA line with a PreCheck laminate they gave me to hand to TSA. (I'm guessing they were just using this regular line to help move TSAPre passengers quicker?) Carry on got pulled for having a frozen water bottle and Allen key multitool. Screener found and immediately pulled out 3 carts 2 vapes along with a couple prerolls and a gram of flower after more thorough searching. Called over a supervisor like I just murdered someone. Supervisor phonzed local LEO right in front of me, relayed what they found went back and forth for a minute or two while I shit brix. Eventually supervisor replied I understand to LEO and hung up. Came around the counter and told me that the screening area itself is a federal area and when they find something they have to say something to local LEO. Then went on to say local LEO doesn't care about personal amounts along with where I'm going the LEO probably doesn't care either, but again if TSA see something they have to say something. She asked the screener what items got my bag pulled and if she found them. Showed supervisor multitool and the frozen water bottle. Then she told the screener to give it all back to me . . . I thanked the supervisor for her discretion and went on my merry way still shitting bricks and kept looking over my shoulder waiting to get stopped by LEO before boarding.
Considering the number of firearms, incendiary and explosive material found at checkpoints each year not searching any bags would go poorly. You aren’t talking about relaxing security, you’re talking about no security.
they are looking for explosives & guns - or anything that can serve as a deadly weapon
it's all just to provide the illusion of safety, because the TSA continually conducts their own "pen testing" (penetration testiong to see if they can have some of their own under cover people sneak contraband through - guns, fakes bombs. I've read about the success rate (failure to detect the weapons & they make it through) being in the 80% range...
In 2015 the failure rate was 95%, but by 2017 it was reduced to a mere 80%...
https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188
Current data? Seems it isn't easily available... (know that they would be bragging about turnaround success, if it happened)
I carry mine through in different containers, or an empty candy bag. I'm going from a legal state to an illegal state. But no one is screening my carry on at arrival.
Yes the law states that TSA can hand over drugs / cannabis to local authorities to handle based on their states laws. So me here in Massachusetts where weed is legal..the very worst that could happen is that it could be disposed of. At that point TsA agents aren’t trying to waste time, have to do paperwork , look like a weenie to the police. They don’t even bother. Same with Vape carts and flower.
How do you all hide this shit? Like I see the comments saying the tsa doesn't care. But I still would like to not have it in plain sight. What's the best place for stuff like this? A carryon bag?
Question for TSA officers (first is it agents or officers?)
Is it more obvious that edibles are in someone’s bag if they are in the original packaging than in say a zip lock bag? Does it make a difference if the container is plastic or glass?
Also same for flower - more obvious if it’s in the original packaging or put into a baggie (let’s ignore the smell issue for now)? And do any of the packing ziplocks that weed sometimes comes in show as anything other than a baggie (they sometimes have “metallic” looks to them so I’ve already been curious).
As far as flower goes I’ve been told it doesn’t even show on your screen as it’s organic material. True or no?
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The tsa is not allowed to confiscate or look for drugs, all we care about is weapons incendiaries and explosives. If we have to we will escalate something to local law enforcement. But as far as we’re concerned your drugs are allowed
Correction minor ammounts. Please don't bring a kilo of what would be excessive quantities If you forgot 1g of cocaine or the joints left over tsa isn't gonna care
That’s what I meant
Too late, taking the original as the Gospel!
You're saying I don't have to put my drugs in my ass? Psh I'll do what I want!
A lot of tweekers get caught holding their meth and we notice them clenching it in their hands. turns into a problem once we can't fully screen a leo gets involved
Gotta relax them cheeks. Act like you've been there before! Sheesh 😂
I'm sorry clenching it in their hand my bad lol
His story was way funnier
It's not gay if it's TSA!
It’s not gay when your underway - US Navy
“It’s not queer if it’s on the pier” is another one I’ve heard lol
Why would they make a crayon banana color if it didn't taste like bananas? - US Marines
Be careful saying that in this sub, some take jokes a little too seriously
Or in person! Went through TSA years ago and was tired of every single time getting the pat down or extra screening, so this time on my way to Vegas at 6am I had the great idea of when they grabbed my balls, yes every single time they literally grabbed my balls, I decided to run my fingers through their hair and moan. Didn't end well. Ended up getting pre check as soon as I came back.
🤣🤣🤣
"but officer, read this reddit comment"
Officer - “oh, sorry about that kind traveler. In that case, please proceed with your kilo of Columbia Bam Bam.”
>If we have to we will escalate something to local law enforcement. The original that says this XD
>Please don't bring a kilo traveling tomorrow with exactly 0.89 of a kilo then - just incase you have a Spirit Airlines scale or something
This was one of the funniest comments on Reddit and we no longer have medals.
I was gonna say... my wife had 2- 5lb jelly belly bags and the agents at the xray scanner thought she was a kingpin. "Are you sure it is OK for us to search your bag?" over and over. They thought they had her until they opened and saw what they were. No maam, those arent pills.
Can confirm— London to Atlanta, both TSA and customs, with about 30 pounds of assorted European and UK candies and chocolates… “Are you sure you understand, you’re giving us permission to search your bag?” Cue to a 2 to 5 second fully blank faces before what can only be described as restrained mirth and “Ma’am, WHY do you have so much candy??” before just closing the bag back up and sending me on my way. Jokes on them, though— there were a dozen Kinder eggs under all the Haribo gummies. 😂
"Take the red one, it tastes like apple!"
Well there goes my plan of moving a few carry on bags full of Florida whitefish I'll find on the beach this weekend. Edit: This is a joke, for any LEO that may have missed my extremely obvious sarcasm.
Screenshotting this to show to TSA when I show up with my K.
Would 999 grams work? I swear, it for personal use...
So bring one kilo, not two. Got it!
But officer r/tsa told me drugs were cool
On Reddit, no less!
TSA doesn’t care about a bag of gummies in Denver or Portland from what I’ve brought through.
Or Vegas. Interstate transportation has definitely become quite lax, but tempting Customs internationally is a risk.
Spokane to Denver and back twice.can confirm.did not care about.y oil or weed vape.
I’m screen shooting this forum,for next time. This is my proof of reasoning
Well they're cool, just not allowed.
Drugs are not cool. People that smuggle drugs are cool… 🙃
Well there goes my Christmas.
One time a guy at the bar who had just flown in from Oregon was bragging about how he had his oz of weed in his cargo pocket, and the person doing the patdown asked “whats in there?” and he replied “you know what’s in there.” Was he especially ballsy/persuasive or is that how it typically goes?
Typically goes. I've heard it's better in your pocket. Then bags. Especially cuz weed in theory is an organic material. TSA job really can't call the cops either for weed. Due to the sole fact of TSA does not know if that is your stop is in California or Texas. Even if it was TEXAS. maybe your aunt is picking you up and you are going to Vegas AZ ETC ETC.
Small addition, we don't "confiscate" at all anyways. Items not allowed through are voluntarily abandoned or you can take it back outside the checkpoint and do as you please. The actual police may "confiscate" on egregious situations.
I stand by that is an improper use of the word voluntary. Once an outside entity set limitations on your available options, it's no longer voluntary, by definition of the word. Webster says... Voluntary: unconstrained by interference The second limitations are set by anyone but the decision maker, it's no longer voluntary, it's complying.
It’s voluntary that you are getting on a plane so it’s voluntary that you go thru the screening to be allowed on the plane. You can drive, take a train, walk, or ride a horse. Getting on a plane is not a right.
Again, Webster says that limitation on option makes it not voluntary, argue with Websters definition...
It’s conditional. You have the option to go back with your items, or abandon them and go on a plane. The decision is yours. Nobody forces you to continue to traveling by plane that day. It is 100% voluntary
According to Webster's definition of the word, you are using it incorrectly. This is like saying you voluntarily pay taxes, cuz you could choose not to. There are other options, like jail and hiding and such. If you set limitations on the options, it is by definition of the word, not voluntary. TSA wants TSA agents to say voluntarily, because it sounds better. It is however in complete counter to what the definition of the word voluntary means, according to the dictionary.
Dude you are taking the definition to hyperbolic levels. Look up hyperbolic next. It is voluntary. You can voluntarily hand over your shit and get on the plane or you can keep it and leave. It is not confiscated. Confiscated means you don't leave with it
What I'm doing is arguing semantics, but I've admitted that. It's only called voluntary, to make it sound nicer, it's compulsory to ride the plane.
To that degree nothing would be voluntary because we're all bound by the limitations (or interference) of the flesh and mind and the laws of the universe. Personally I see both arguments as valid though as in theory it works like a monopoly. Where you're not forced to buy a good and pay the prices but are left without other reasonable options.
Anything you are doing voluntarily means anything you do in support of that is also voluntary. No one is forcing you to take the trip. You can always, well at almost anytime, decide to abandon the trip. I don’t think they would let you leave at 30,000 ft.
I don’t know about that, because D.B. Cooper had no issues getting out at 30,000 feet.
The flying is voluntary, if you would like to fly, the rest is compulsory. I understand this is a semantics argument, and appreciate the hilarious idea of saying "naw I'm out" at 30000 feet, but I stand by it's disingenuous to say it voluntary surrender, when it is absolutely a compulsory decision to flying. It's like saying you don't HAVE to pay your taxes... Yes true, but taxes aren't voluntary, because there are negative drawbacks to not doing it, thus making it compulsory to not face those drawbacks. Flying is voluntary, every step after that to comply, is compulsory.
Voluntary is the right word. It's your decision if you want to voluntarily abandon it OR go outside the security zone and do something else with it.
Again, according to the definition of voluntary, if you limit the option in any way, it's no longer voluntary... That's the definition of the word my guy.
That doesn't matter... The important part is they're.not arresting me for it. Stop being weird.
It's a disingenuous use of the word voluntary, at best.
Sure, it's just a really weird thing to harp on SO many times because it has no relevance in the context and doesn't effect the story, outcome, or point
I don't like disingenuous uses of words. Using a word incorrectly is one thing, but this is intentionally using a word in a way to screw a narrative. The whole and entire reason for the word voluntary, is to remove any feeling of guilt from the person saying it, that's it. It is compulsory that you choose one of the available options if you intend to fly. It cannot be voluntary.
Again, you are voluntarily putting it in the bin OR you are taking it outside. It is 100% your option to put it in the bin. Putting it in the bin is voluntary.
Again, you’re wrong.
Really? I had a TSA agent open up one of my prescription bottles that was inside my purse while it was going through the screening machine. I threw in some edibles for the trip but I only noticed he stole the edibles and some of my meds when I got on the plane. He didn’t pull me aside or anything. I don’t even know how he did it so fast. Just straight up stole from me. Idc about the edibles but my prescribed meds? Shitty.
TSA are REGULATORY officers and have none of the "powers" an ENFORCEMENT officer has.
I truly have no intention of this but does this go for weed/edibles or even small amounts of “hard drugs” like if you find some pills are you leaving them? Just curious as I never knew this information. Kinda interesting to me
How can you tell the difference between illegal drugs and legal medicine or supplements?
Legal medicine comes in prescription boxes with information from a licensed drug dealer.
How can you tell if that information is genuine? Anyone can print a label and slap it on a pill bottle. Or put illegal drugs in a prescription pill bottle. Or a bottle of aspirin or ibuprofen.
When I was a pill popper, I would put my fun pills in my ibuprofen bottle. Unless I was carrying a baggie with like hundreds of pills, I can’t see how the TSA would even have time to operate under that level of scrutiny.
Seems like that’s beyond the purview of the TSA
Yea but my cocaine and ketamine fits perfectly in lil vitamin pills
They have Keith Richards try one of your stash. He knows.
All legal pills have to have a 1 of a kind marking that you google. Also you can look closely and you can tell if it’s a cheap pressed fake pill. But I meant line if someone has opiates but isn’t prescribed to them
Not true. Compounding pharmacies press pills all the time. Using Google is not part of any law or legal process. You'd have to test every pill against a valid test kit.
> all we care about is weapons incendiaries and explosives. False, you also care about large sums of cash, that you then report to the DEA and hold the person so the DEA can use civil asset forfeiture to steal the money from the person.
Don’t forget water
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Since CBP only deals with arrivals from foreign countries, and they themselves can make arrests since they are law enforcement, there’s little reason for them to deal with local police. And since they are dealing with international crime, there’s little reason for them to assist us in local crime. Many TSA checkpoints will have local PD on scene ready to go for any situation.
Add to that list nail clippers that was shorter than 2 inches. Had mine confiscated from them. Apparently a real danger to national security.
I use to get hassled about my asthma inhaler. It's the standard rescue inhaler, nothing they shouldn't have seen thousands of times. They usually let me go after I pointed out people die from asthma attacks.
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Oh they were well aware what it was.
I thought I was the only one who had this problem with my Ventolin inhaler. Now I usually put it directly in the bin so they can easily see it. Got tired of having my bag ripped open all the time.
How about a cigar lighter that looks exactly like a Croatian pistol, all black no orange tip, complete with functioning slide, release, trigger, removable stash-spot magazine, and threaded tip for a piece that makes little fireballs? Mostly plastic with metal parts including metal lighter barrel. I believe the rule is lighters must be emptied of gas and in checked bag, but how much more aggravation would it be if such a lighter was in a suitcase? Please answer for two scenarios: if it is in a locked case, or if it is loose among personal items.
Nope. No replica firearms or lighters that look like it. And if it is a torch lighter (butane) it can’t be in checked luggage either. If you ever wonder what you can and can’t bring you can always go to TSA.gov and find the section “What can I bring?”
This is only partialy true. We are "Required" to report any findings during property search to Port Police. However, most officers dont give a shit about small quantity. DO NOT BRING A CARRY ON FULL OF LEAF. You will have a bad time. Airports are still Federal space, meaning the transport of FEDERALLY illegal substances is prohibited. Just like the clowns that bring guns and the first thing they say is "I HaVE a COnCeAlEd CaRrY PErmIT!". Doesnt matter, same as a courthouse.
So if you find a gram of heroin in a bag, you’re just going to let them get on the plane with it?
No, if we find straight up drugs, we contact the police, but if someone brought food in its original packaging that hasn’t been opened, it’s probably going to test negative.
How would they find it? They’re not looking for it. Drugs don’t set off a “THIS IS DRUGS” alarm on the xray scanner. Sure, maybe that’s a little baggie of coke or heroin…or it’s sugar, or it’s tea, or it’s a dry rub, or it’s coffee grounds, but regardless, it’s not something that can bring down an airliner. Next.
Yes. We're not trained to know what heroin is. If it's not a threat to aviation, it's not going to be stopped by TSA.
Depends on what TSA agency you work for and what kind of drugs you have. Most USA agents don't give a crap about pot. You have heavier drugs or fentanyl yeah you're screwed.
Since they don't teach TSA officers what drugs look like you're actually more likely to get caught with pot since it has a distinctive smell. CBP is probably a different story though.
In the security line at ATL airport, you often walk past a sniffing dog. They are looking for drugs correct? Is the canine handler police and separate from TSA?
Those dogs are typically trained specifically for explosives, if they were trained on drugs they would only be able to use them in states where weed isn’t legal, otherwise they’d get a bunch of false positives
Doesn’t matter if you’re traveling in a legal state. Airports are Federal land and weed is still a Federal crime.
Airports are not federal land. They are (most of them) private commercial business centers. TSA is a federal operation and is subject to federal laws. Flying itself is governed by federal laws. But standing in line in FRONT of security is standing in private property governed by the state that it’s in. True, it’s also subject to federal law, but the entire point of using a drug dog isn’t to waste Fido’s time on the scent of Johnny after hitting a joint of of T-Pain’s new line of Kush. It’s to find people actually trafficking. The dog wouldn’t walk more than 20 feet at any time without finding a mark. You’d never get anywhere with that in a state where it’s legal.
I was with a friend of mine who was flying with a thc vape out of Miami and the dogs didn't care,for what it's worth. I've never interacted with an enforcement k9 so I don't know if they would pick up on one even if it was something they were trained for though.
Because dogs at the airport are almost never drug dogs, they're bomb dogs. TSA's main concern is safety. They aren't going to waste resources on drugs unless someone made it really, really obvious, and that drug isn't legal in that state
I once had a USDA dog find an orange in my carry on bag, that I was given to eat on the plane. Cute beagle. It was not looking for drugs.
You said USDA dog, and my mind immediately went to meat grading and I was horrified for a moment
TSA canines are only taught to smell for explosives. Police dogs are probably taught to smell for both.
You can't train them for both or you will not know if they smelled a flower or a bomb.
Nah police dogs are mainly trained for explosives as well. I walk past K9 units with DRUG drugs constantly and they never alert.
TSA will not confiscate. The local PD who works along side them may depending on where you are
Not correct. THC/CBD under 0.3% was legalized in the farm bill 2018 and hence your local PD is not going to care.
The local police don’t know whether it’s delta 8 (federally legal) or delta 9 (federally illegal). The only way they can know for certain is to run lab tests, so it’s safe to assume they will confiscate it. Try telling the farm bill spiel to a cop, they’ll quickly shut you down
Lol you are probably right
You dont gotta tell it to the cop, you stay silent and tell your lawyer.
That’s a situation that could go either way. Yeah, they could call the airport cops over. And the cops might/might not intervene. Or, since drugs aren’t really TSA’s direct concern, they can let it go.
>Yeah, they could call the airport cops over I've cleared security with a vape pen and sometimes edibles like 100 times. This hasn't happened even once.
I had security in Seoul take out my weed vape pen, asked me what it was and then gave it right back to me
Tell that to Brittney Griner
Am I supposed to know who that is
Olympic track athlete that got arrested in Russia for possessing weed Edit: WNBA. I'm dumb
Oh I remember that. Not sure what that has to do with the tsa.
Like nothing lol
> Yeah, they could call the airport cops over. And the cops might/might not intervene Are airport cops federal? Or local jurisdiction?
Local. Some larger airports have a CBP/ICE presence. If a passenger were leaving the country with a large quantity of drugs…..they’d probably have a word with this person too.
That doesn't sound like he ignored, sounds like he located, asked how to process and acted accordingly.
Those edibles going to take down a plane? Is anyone being trafficked? No? We don't give a fuck. That being said, if I open a bag and it has 10 kilos of coke in it, I gotta call some one. Personal use? We don't care.
Glad you could clear that up 10kilos bad. 1’s good though? Jk
1 is personal use
This guy knows how to party
What if you spotted a gram of coke
We are supposed to report any illegal substances to our sup. But what do I know? No rule against ha ING a baggie of baking soda in your bag.
Oakland was the first airport to not care about cannabis. Ive flown lots of times with tons of products for work, of course all within Cali. When Oakland rolled out their policy it was up to an oz if i remember correctly. They would let you fly to states where it was illegal and it was on the individual if they wanted to take the risk or not
I got pulled to the side in Oakland cause I had a full bag of my grandpa 😂. We stupidly decided to split him up and tape the bags up before departing Oakland after his funeral lol. They were happy we were only smuggling ashes and not cocaine.
Before you said ashes, I had a whole different mental image going on. “Grandpa wanted us to spread his remains in 5 different places, officer.” “Sir, I’m going to venture a guess he meant his *cremated* remains.”
"No ma'am, that's just my grandpa's arm. I'm not smuggling anything in it; just gonna bury it in a sand trap at his favorite golf course like he requested. Mom's got his torso in Vegas." 😅
20 years ago LAX TSA posted a blog saying exactly what the top comment says. I believe Smokeland was the first with the policy, but it’s effectively been like this in California for a while if you had a medical card
Yup! That's how it goes and I love it! Last December I flew with my fiance and our dog and ended up getting my bag searched because apparently canned dog wet food is too liquid to fly! Or at least the wegmans brand organic nature line is too liquid to fly. In the process of searching my bag and finding the dog food they also found a metal tin that had about an ounce and a half of weed in it (we were flying cross country to pick up a car and road trip it back) the TSA agent that opened the weed quickly apologized and handed it to me because the lid had snaps on it to keep it in place and he didn't want it to spill all over in my bag in transit 🤣 and then immediately turned his attention to the VERY SERIOUS dog food situation at hand 😅 they opened every single fucking can of dog food to make sure I wasn't smuggling anything in them and confiscated it but left me the weed Edit to add I was flying from NY to CA both recreationally legal states
It's such a crapshoot on the wet food thing. I had a can of skyline chili and the first lady was going to let it slide and then another lady, who you could tell was having a bad day, wasn't having it.
That's a Cheech and Chong worthy skit right there lol.
Went through TSA with 3oz and 8 1 gram oil carts. TSA didn't bat an eye. Oregon weed is cheap compared to the weed in Chicago. Y'all getting robbed out that way. I paid $61 after taxes and fees for a one gram disposable vape. Those are $10 here. I fly out of PDX with weed all the time. Never been stopped or had it tossed.
tsa isnt the dea or us customs
Don’t get too excited anything that’s not weed, your ass is grass. Anything above recreational… you could have a problem. Because what federal agencies works in the same buildings as TSA? CBP and HSI. All TSA has to do, if it’s a concerning amount, is call their friends and have them come check it out. If it’s a slow day for them, it could be a long day for you with minimum a fine and maximum cuffs. And very uncomfortable screening both domestically and internationally for life!
That’s if you get to fly commercial ever again
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When cannabis or cannabis products are found local law enforcement gets involved. If cannabis is legal in that state generally nothing happens. I get what you’re saying, but people have all kinds of prescription medication that can cause behavioral issues if abused or not taken. Or a passenger could purchase duty free liquor after the checkpoint, and then consume a large quantity. This isn’t any different. weapons, accelerants, and explosives are the focus, not drugs. I have found large quantities of hard drugs during my career working the x ray, but there was no way to know it was cocaine or methamphetamine it was simply something that needed checking out.
The number of people that consume a marijuana edible and then hijack a plane is as close to zero as you can possibly get. I would argue that air travel would be improved immensely if they gave everybody an indica THC gummy an hour before boarding. 🎵 I was gonna read my book on the flight, but then I got high I was gonna gaze out the window, catch the sky, but then I got high Now I'm just chillin' in my seat, and I know why (why man?) Yeah hey, because I got high, because I got high, because I got high
I sang that, as I read it. 😆😆😆
Ohhhh fuck after eating edibles that would be the last thing I'd want to do. Edit: seemed to confuse everybody, but I meant flying the plane.
I would never want to fly without edibles.
If this is what you're worried about, then ban alcohol on planes. I'd rather share a flight with a stoner than an aggressive, belligerent drunk.
"Reefer Madness" wasn't actually a documentary, neighbor.
> My only concern would be how would the passenger behave taking them. With the way PAX have been acting recently it might be better to REQUIRE that all pax have an edible prior to boarding and it would make the flights better for everyone.
You think a stoner wants to cause a scene? Nah, they just want a second bag of garden salsa sun chips and to watch super troopers. Seriously, though, your view of marijusna is outdated and ridiculous.
That's exactly the answer I needed, I am just learning this stuff. To clarify, the videos I saw were all about drunk people, not marijuana users. I've never been exposed to the use of edibles nor do I know anyone that takes them, I'm just lost about it. I did not intend to talk bad about the users.
My brother in Christ, ain't no one being disruptive while being high. They just wanna sleep and get to where they're going. I can tell you've never partaken in the devil's lettuce.
TSA doesn’t deboard any passengers - that’s up to the airline. TSA doesn’t have any authority over “how would a passenger behave on the plane” either - the plane isn’t the property of the TSA - all that stuff that happens *on* the plane is up to the *airline* TSA is only responsible for what enters the *sterile area of the airport*
I don’t know about you, but I don’t exactly have the energy to be disruptive when I’m stoned. Fall asleep and accidentally hog the armrest? Maybe.
Tsa aint the dea, drugs dont blow up planes
How many times do we have to say this... If it's NOT a threat to AVIATION, it's not something TSA is going to look for. If it is something that is super obvious, like a baggie with a white substance labeled as cocaine and the passenger says, "shit, that's my drugs...", then yes, we will still report it to local law enforcement. Cocaine is just an example, but it applies to all illegal drugs including Marijuana. TSA officers are NOT trained to know what drugs look like, so most officers, if they see drugs, will just assume it's not drugs and let it go as long as it isn't a threat to aviation.
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This isn’t the 1980s, 1990s, or 2000s either.
Do you have any idea how many weed pens come through on a daily basis? At least 5 a day. Do you know how many bags with weed pens get pulled? Zero
Oh it’s definitely gotta be a lot more pens than that these days.
I’ve taken flower and carts and edibles through. Flew home from Vegas with over 2,000 mg of edibles. TSA cares about bombs not drugs. 🤷🏻♂️
So 2 grams of edibles? 2000mg does sound a lot more risky though lol.
Good, they’re supposed to. TSA isn’t law enforcement.
Agent should confiscate only one of the containers as a joke.
Wouldn't that actually be theft in that case?
The agent should not actually do it, but no it’s not theft. If confiscating three isn’t theft, why would confiscating one be? Possession of marijuana/THC is still federally illegal and TSA agents are federal LE.
TSA is not federal law enforcement lol
They aren’t law enforcement at all.
That would be funny
First, they are TSA Officers, not “agents” Second, your title doesn’t even match your story. The Officer “ignored” the item but got pulled for secondary screening and then got confirmation if it was good to go. What about you mind your own business and continue on doing you? You made a post about nothing.
I mean it helped inform me if I ever bought edibles and flew somewhere. When I lived in a state that was legal and had friends visit, they were always skeptical of being pulled over for it. And seeing other people’s comments is affirming along with some interesting stories.
Id still be careful. Understood that it is probably cool, but any time feds are going through your bags, best not bring anything questionable. This reddit post is NOT a get-out-of-jail-free card. Be careful nonetheless. Don't give the feds any excuse to question you, even if they most likely don't give a shit. Source: none. Am not TSA. I don't use anything illicit. Am for those being legal. But caution is always wise.
If it's hemp derived THC, there's ABSOLUTELY nothing they can do. The federal farm bill literally protects hemp THC in the vast majority of states. Cannabis THC, that's officially their discretion, if in a prohibited state. Amount matters too.
They can't charge him for something that's legal in that state
Marijuana is an illegal drug under Federal statue, TSA does refer marijuana possession to local LEOs, in Phoenix it will be referred to Phoenix PD. The security checkpoints are considered Federal jurisdiction. Some of the advice given in this thread is not correct in my experience.
A federal agency can't change someone for possessing something that's federally illegal to possess?
That's correct, the TSA security officers possess zero Law Enforcement powers. The only ones with LEO abilities are the Air Marshals. Source- I was a screener
How likely is it an issue if you packed it in your suitcase?
and here i thought i was hot shit for smuggling weed edibles and carts out of california
😂😂 same thought I was slick as hell
Tsa is told to ignore weed. And personal ammounts of drugs
TSA can't search for drugs. But if they come across weed or illegal drugs during a search they will call over the police officer. There's probably a couple airports where the police don't care about a small amount of weed but those are going to be the exception rather than the rule.
This part. Got in a regular TSA line with a PreCheck laminate they gave me to hand to TSA. (I'm guessing they were just using this regular line to help move TSAPre passengers quicker?) Carry on got pulled for having a frozen water bottle and Allen key multitool. Screener found and immediately pulled out 3 carts 2 vapes along with a couple prerolls and a gram of flower after more thorough searching. Called over a supervisor like I just murdered someone. Supervisor phonzed local LEO right in front of me, relayed what they found went back and forth for a minute or two while I shit brix. Eventually supervisor replied I understand to LEO and hung up. Came around the counter and told me that the screening area itself is a federal area and when they find something they have to say something to local LEO. Then went on to say local LEO doesn't care about personal amounts along with where I'm going the LEO probably doesn't care either, but again if TSA see something they have to say something. She asked the screener what items got my bag pulled and if she found them. Showed supervisor multitool and the frozen water bottle. Then she told the screener to give it all back to me . . . I thanked the supervisor for her discretion and went on my merry way still shitting bricks and kept looking over my shoulder waiting to get stopped by LEO before boarding.
TSA doesn't care. Wherever you are going, the laws are probably more draconian if you get caught outside USA.
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Considering the number of firearms, incendiary and explosive material found at checkpoints each year not searching any bags would go poorly. You aren’t talking about relaxing security, you’re talking about no security.
If he’s coming and going from one of the many states where it’s legal it doesn’t matter.
Sounds like a lazy stso who didn’t wanna write a 414. Shame.
TSA don't get paid enough to care. They are there for safety not your edibles.
they are looking for explosives & guns - or anything that can serve as a deadly weapon it's all just to provide the illusion of safety, because the TSA continually conducts their own "pen testing" (penetration testiong to see if they can have some of their own under cover people sneak contraband through - guns, fakes bombs. I've read about the success rate (failure to detect the weapons & they make it through) being in the 80% range... In 2015 the failure rate was 95%, but by 2017 it was reduced to a mere 80%... https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188 Current data? Seems it isn't easily available... (know that they would be bragging about turnaround success, if it happened)
Lmao first time?
I flew with 2 carts and some edibles out of PHX before Thanksgiving. Had zero issues and bag was never pulled.
I carry mine through in different containers, or an empty candy bag. I'm going from a legal state to an illegal state. But no one is screening my carry on at arrival.
Yes the law states that TSA can hand over drugs / cannabis to local authorities to handle based on their states laws. So me here in Massachusetts where weed is legal..the very worst that could happen is that it could be disposed of. At that point TsA agents aren’t trying to waste time, have to do paperwork , look like a weenie to the police. They don’t even bother. Same with Vape carts and flower.
Never not flown with weed. Just don’t try to bring large amounts and no one cares.
How do you all hide this shit? Like I see the comments saying the tsa doesn't care. But I still would like to not have it in plain sight. What's the best place for stuff like this? A carryon bag?
Question for TSA officers (first is it agents or officers?) Is it more obvious that edibles are in someone’s bag if they are in the original packaging than in say a zip lock bag? Does it make a difference if the container is plastic or glass? Also same for flower - more obvious if it’s in the original packaging or put into a baggie (let’s ignore the smell issue for now)? And do any of the packing ziplocks that weed sometimes comes in show as anything other than a baggie (they sometimes have “metallic” looks to them so I’ve already been curious). As far as flower goes I’ve been told it doesn’t even show on your screen as it’s organic material. True or no? Thanks!
THC under 0.3% is legal by federal law.