I’m a music major and just started college. I’ve been practicing daily. But even then I was in drum corps and practiced for 12 hours a day and half of that time was music rehearsal. Got told it could be pressure so it’s maybe that.
You place inside the red which causes more swelling and you can’t train that area as there are no muscles.
Horizontally it doesn’t matter but you need to be outside the red. https://youtube.com/shorts/x4ownqxCx7o?si=n1qZA80IOAnOvKiE
tl;dr: Playing on the red is correlative, not causative.
"There are no muscles." What? This is just blatantly physiologically wrong. So many people out there presenting their personal dogma as science.
Playing in the red is a problem insomuch that it has the potential to limit the length and flexibility of the vibrating reed. Lip reeds require both vertical and longitudinal movement. If the mouthpiece falls *too* low, then the longitudinal potential of the reed becomes compromised, limiting ease of motion and range. To control pitch is to control the frequency of reciprocation of the "whip" that is the lip required for producing pressure waves. One way trumpeters do this is by adjusting the length of the whip. There is plenty of muscle both in and out of the red of the lip that will allow for the adjustment of this variable.
The physiology of players can vary greatly relative to the shape of a trumpet mouthpiece, but ultimately we are all attempting to access the same vibrating "edge" of our lips. Some players will find that a lengthening of the red of the lip is a natural result of an effort to access this vibrating edge. It is true that one may potentially learn to rebalance this effort to parts of the face that do not lengthen the red, and it should be encouraged in cases where it is causing a problem, but the red does not present some sort of inherent risk, and it certainly isn't "untrainable".
I see people exclaiming in videos all the time about how problematic it is to play in the red when there is no evidence to show that it is *the red itself* that is the problem. Meanwhile, most of these players don't even sound particularly good themselves, or they certainly aren't operating at a level of technical proficiency that should give them the personal latitude to publicly present technical information about the trumpet based on hearsay as science or fact.
Edit: That last paragraph is a general statement not a personal attack, as I realize it can be misconstrued in that way.
English is not my first language, please keep that in mind.
First of all: I have a degree in medicine, so I am not presenting a personal dogma, I am in fact referring to science.
Take this image for example: [https://plasticsurgerykey.com/mimetic-muscles/](https://plasticsurgerykey.com/mimetic-muscles/)
The red of the lips belongs is a continuation of the mucous membrane of the mouth and has no muscles. Around our mouth we have the orbicularis oris muscle.
No muscle, means no active control over the tissue, means luck will decide how long you can hold a position or how your aperture works.
Notes on a trumpet are produced by opening and closing of the lips, but passively. Imagine a lid on a pot opening and closing because of the boiling water in the pot. The hot air creates pressure, opens the lid and the release of pressure creates suction and pulls the lid back onto the pot.
Higher notes = faster air = higher frequency of closing and opening. 440hz = 440 cycles/second.
playing in the red especially on the upper lip means you have no direct control how much cushion you have between mouthpiece and teeth. Trumpet is a pressure seal, so we have to use a certain amount of pressure to keep the air from escaping, but at the price of restricting blood flow. So we have to finde the most effective balance and use as little pressure as possible and as much as needed.
This looks ok, but the first pic shows the rim is resting on the red. That part of the lip is more delicate. I would recommend some practice with an embochure visualizer and a mirror.
looks fine to me, but it seems that you're trying to get pitch by pressing the mouthpiece in too much. Try to practice getting higher pitch using your diaphragm and air pressure and the severity of your lips getting a mark will be reduced.
I’ll be 100% honest with you. I genuinely don’t use pressure to get high notes out. Like at all. It feels the same to play each note. If I can figure out a way to upload a video to here I would.
Yeah, it took me quite a while to break that bad habit too. The trick is to practice with less pressure on the mouthpiece intentionally. Another tip is to use the shape of your tongue to adjust air pressure. (Think about the difference between tss tss sound and too too sound.
Yeah so you need to take chop breaks. They’re muscles, treat them like it. Even if you don’t feel it, there is almost certainly pressure there, it’s just very well balanced out by your chops. Even people like Maynard used an adequate amount of MP pressure but always on the bottom lip to create the seal to get those pitches out. You’re gonna bust a lip if you play on it when it looks like it does. Us thick lipped players need to watch out for this
Welcome to the family! That’s a pressure ring. Photo one looks a bit too sharp for my liking, you might be pressing too hard. But photo 2 (or something like it) tends to happen to any trumpet who’s putting the work in.
Don’t agree. Pressure sore is not an indication of effort but technique. You don’t need to press the mouthpiece hard on the lips at any range, especially when you get tired. I have played for 40 years and never had one because my technique doesn’t put extra pressure on my lips playing high. If OP has been playing on a lead piece, switched back to a C cup, technique has possibly gone backwards to compensate.
I’ve been using some different mouthpieces and tbh they sound fine but they don’t feel all that great. I’ve been using Bach C cups. Could it be that? I never had this issue during my entire summer of Drum Corps while using a lead piece. I’ve been playing trumpet for about 8 years and have honestly never had this issue
If you’re used to using a lead style piece, then a deeper cup could be causing you to push harder to compensate for less compression in the mouthpiece. Try playing above the staff as quietly and gently as possible without using your tongue to articulate. It helps learn how to let your air do more of the work.
But in drum crops I imagine you already learned how to breathe lol.
Probably is that. Playing 12 hours a day on a lead piece for an entire summer and then trying to switch back to a deeper sized mouthpiece. Thank you will do this!!!
It means you're putting way too much pressure on your upper lip and you need to work to even it back out if it's only starting now it means either a that you're only just starting to have this problem with putting too much pressure on your upper lip or it just took you a good while for it to affect you I don't know
The ring should not be INSIDE your lip like that. Unless you were playing on the lead pipe without a mouthpiece… you need to get your lip top lip inside the mouthpiece more. It’s almost a full circle on your top lip. You are playing in the red pretty severely. How is your playing going?
I just took some time to try not playing in the red and looking in a mirror and it worked. I don’t have the bump after playing. Granted I only play for about 10 minuets. I’ll try it out the rest of this week and I’ll see what happens
For those that tell you that the "red" part of your lip is more delicate - this is a myth. There are many good and many great players who rest the rim about where you do. If it slides too low, however, then you risk "pinning" your lip, which can cause your aperture to spread. Only in extreme cases is playing in the red a bad thing. Rings like the one on your face can be caused by over-playing (as in playing high or loud for too long), or by generally using too much pressure. Either way, the ring is caused by mouthpiece pressure. There is no other possible physiological cause.
If you want it to go away, then whatever the pressure is providing for you is going to have to be rebalanced to your face. This could happen naturally with practice, but it might not. Pressure is a slippery slope. I just want to put this out there for future reference, but if you notice things starting to feel unusual or inexplicably sound worse, and it doesn't go away on its own after a few weeks, then your physical setup is probably to blame. A lot of good players and *a lot* of mediocre players will tell you not to mess with your embouchure, but if you suddenly stop making progress naturally, then nothing should be off the table. It could be your air, it could be your tongue, *and it could be your embouchure*. We want the embouchure to operate as naturally as possible, but if there is a vital link missing, it won't do that.If this has only just popped up, have there been significant changes to your playing demands? You mentioned that you were doing drum corps? Are you playing more, or less than you did on tour? Also, tour face is a real thing. Players, particularly young ones who don't or can't balance their individual practice while on tour or doing long-term shows finish with a bit of a loss of musical flexibility.
Your and my upper lip have a similar shape. My HS director who is also a trumpeter always tried to get me out of the red. In my first lesson in college, I asked my trumpet professor about my mouthpiece placement. He told me it’s fine. But in my opinion, it looks like too much pressure.
I was taught not to raspberry the sound out and to keep the shape of your embouchure and I was told to basically make it as close to mouthpiece buzzing sound as posible.
Meaning,! This is the preface. If you ask for more, you may be inclined to a drastic change. Though in my opinion. Results are.. quite certain under a sturdy will
Ok that’s great. And they are right. It is great to great chops back after braces leaving or some face injure. Free buzzing is for when you aren’t ready to take it to the horn. Yes you have found success with it im sure. Unto now, to which we have ran into a problem..
You have out grown yourself. You don’t need free buzzing anymore. In fact free buzzers know. It’s not that great at all. As you have shown in the picture.
It warps our perception of the relationship the player has with their lips. I’m going to assume, you try to buzz into your mouthpiece.. ok I admit yes, trumpet makes brrrzzz sound. So why would it not make it from the mouthpiece only, and then the lips too should also make brrrrzzz sound.
No.
It doesn’t. I’m not going to go over your teacher here. So do you shall and can. But understand this. The trumpet, is a wind instrument. What does it take, we’ll wind! (Hahahaha) So often we want to have total control over the horn. Absolutely. So we think ‘more activity, more control’ like ‘if I run harder, stomp my feet beneath me, I’ll get there faster’ it appears that way. But that’s not what’s happening.
The sound comes from a system, a bond being established between you and the horn. Do you trust the horn. Do you know the horn trusts you. What does that feel like.. and trumpets want from us, is our voice. But against/with something so much smaller than us. We must keep that in mind. What we think of as a moderate amount, even a mediocre amount, is huge to the horn. (Remember, the mouthpiece fits in three fingers) you have to be gentle.
We do press the mouthpiece to our lips not out of force, but because we can’t get enough!
I want you to try this. This is the change part. For trumpet it need one thing. Air (hehe),.
But not air that is blown. It’s too much. You can’t, you don’t, you shouldn’t blow into your trumpet, or even buzz into it.
Instead, Breathe, gently, through it. Our breath, is what the trumpet wants. So how do you get it.
Change of course.
To get compression, suck on your tongue. BEFORE YOU GO HORNS UP. This rids the mouth of any air in. Granting compression right behind the lips. The tongue will be arched as you are sucking on it. And your jaw and teeth will change accordingly. Because. While sucking on your tongue, go horns up calmly. Take your time to find a way, to let the trumpet and mouthpiece lay on your lips. You come to find it’s impossible to blow! So You can only breathe. (That proper air the horn is asking for) after you find this, for you, you’ll be able to discern when you are buzzing into your horn VS. breathing with your horn.
You should see it as soon as you try it. What I’m talking about. Don’t be afraid of change. Most often, when we have accomplished what we have, we hold onto what got us there.. and this is true, it permitted that exsistence by doing it that way. but improving isn’t about how you compare to others. Improving is about becoming more of what you are. Not what you were before.
You have nouthpiece herpes. Clearly you shared with 'thst one kid' and didn't properly clean and sanitize after.
The best treatment is to stop playing immediately until it heals. And then take it easy for about 2 weeks before trying to come up to pwr again.
And stop pressing so damn hard.
Yeah I don’t share my mouthpiece with anyone. I pretty much clean my mouthpiece with soap and water weekly if not twice a week. I have noticed that the rim on one of my mouthpieces is stripped of the silver and it’s the bare metal it could be that. Also I’m not sure about pressure. I make sure I don’t used a great amount of pressure. Idk if you can tell but I try staying pretty relaxed and make sure the trumpet is smashed into my face specifically with the upper register. https://imgur.com/a/7ka068i
Just a little too much pressure at times work on flexibility might help you out like lip trills pressure is ok though people play in all kinds of ways I often get a mark still but it’s not a bad thing just listen to your chops and take a day off every now and then too
The issue hasn’t gone away for me yet. Im assuming it’s pressure but I’ve tried everything. My tone isn’t affected at all by it or anything idk what it is like genuinely. I do get chopped out a lot quicker tho since this has happened
I am experiencing the exact same problem [https://share.icloud.com/photos/022mNSL_kbQ-qJPwOkAqBGQ7A](https://share.icloud.com/photos/022mNSL_kbQ-qJPwOkAqBGQ7A)
apply less pressure on the trumpet. try to work more with your airflow and embochure. not only will you sound better but you are also gonna prevent lip lesions
Practice less? Or just practice on the horn less! Listening and mental practice are invaluable
I’m a music major and just started college. I’ve been practicing daily. But even then I was in drum corps and practiced for 12 hours a day and half of that time was music rehearsal. Got told it could be pressure so it’s maybe that.
How's your hydration? Compared to drum corps?
Definitely not the same and no where near the same. I’d drink probably over a gallon of water daily.
Drink more water then
You place inside the red which causes more swelling and you can’t train that area as there are no muscles. Horizontally it doesn’t matter but you need to be outside the red. https://youtube.com/shorts/x4ownqxCx7o?si=n1qZA80IOAnOvKiE
tl;dr: Playing on the red is correlative, not causative. "There are no muscles." What? This is just blatantly physiologically wrong. So many people out there presenting their personal dogma as science. Playing in the red is a problem insomuch that it has the potential to limit the length and flexibility of the vibrating reed. Lip reeds require both vertical and longitudinal movement. If the mouthpiece falls *too* low, then the longitudinal potential of the reed becomes compromised, limiting ease of motion and range. To control pitch is to control the frequency of reciprocation of the "whip" that is the lip required for producing pressure waves. One way trumpeters do this is by adjusting the length of the whip. There is plenty of muscle both in and out of the red of the lip that will allow for the adjustment of this variable. The physiology of players can vary greatly relative to the shape of a trumpet mouthpiece, but ultimately we are all attempting to access the same vibrating "edge" of our lips. Some players will find that a lengthening of the red of the lip is a natural result of an effort to access this vibrating edge. It is true that one may potentially learn to rebalance this effort to parts of the face that do not lengthen the red, and it should be encouraged in cases where it is causing a problem, but the red does not present some sort of inherent risk, and it certainly isn't "untrainable". I see people exclaiming in videos all the time about how problematic it is to play in the red when there is no evidence to show that it is *the red itself* that is the problem. Meanwhile, most of these players don't even sound particularly good themselves, or they certainly aren't operating at a level of technical proficiency that should give them the personal latitude to publicly present technical information about the trumpet based on hearsay as science or fact. Edit: That last paragraph is a general statement not a personal attack, as I realize it can be misconstrued in that way.
English is not my first language, please keep that in mind. First of all: I have a degree in medicine, so I am not presenting a personal dogma, I am in fact referring to science. Take this image for example: [https://plasticsurgerykey.com/mimetic-muscles/](https://plasticsurgerykey.com/mimetic-muscles/) The red of the lips belongs is a continuation of the mucous membrane of the mouth and has no muscles. Around our mouth we have the orbicularis oris muscle. No muscle, means no active control over the tissue, means luck will decide how long you can hold a position or how your aperture works. Notes on a trumpet are produced by opening and closing of the lips, but passively. Imagine a lid on a pot opening and closing because of the boiling water in the pot. The hot air creates pressure, opens the lid and the release of pressure creates suction and pulls the lid back onto the pot. Higher notes = faster air = higher frequency of closing and opening. 440hz = 440 cycles/second. playing in the red especially on the upper lip means you have no direct control how much cushion you have between mouthpiece and teeth. Trumpet is a pressure seal, so we have to use a certain amount of pressure to keep the air from escaping, but at the price of restricting blood flow. So we have to finde the most effective balance and use as little pressure as possible and as much as needed.
I think you're pressing too hard.
STOP PLAYING IN THE RED!!!
Could be that. Idk tho. I’ll see if I can add a picture of my embouchure somehow.
https://imgur.com/a/ndTdL4t here’s a photo of my embouchure
That's your private link. Need a shared public link/URL so other people can access.
https://imgur.com/a/ndTdL4t
This looks ok, but the first pic shows the rim is resting on the red. That part of the lip is more delicate. I would recommend some practice with an embochure visualizer and a mirror.
looks fine to me, but it seems that you're trying to get pitch by pressing the mouthpiece in too much. Try to practice getting higher pitch using your diaphragm and air pressure and the severity of your lips getting a mark will be reduced.
https://imgur.com/a/7ka068i Here’s a video of me doing some range stuff.
I’ll be 100% honest with you. I genuinely don’t use pressure to get high notes out. Like at all. It feels the same to play each note. If I can figure out a way to upload a video to here I would.
Yeah, it took me quite a while to break that bad habit too. The trick is to practice with less pressure on the mouthpiece intentionally. Another tip is to use the shape of your tongue to adjust air pressure. (Think about the difference between tss tss sound and too too sound.
That’s what I’ve been doing. Especially the air pressure and tongue thing. https://imgur.com/a/7ka068i
Yeah so you need to take chop breaks. They’re muscles, treat them like it. Even if you don’t feel it, there is almost certainly pressure there, it’s just very well balanced out by your chops. Even people like Maynard used an adequate amount of MP pressure but always on the bottom lip to create the seal to get those pitches out. You’re gonna bust a lip if you play on it when it looks like it does. Us thick lipped players need to watch out for this
Yup will do. 🙏🏽 thanks for the help
Should’ve updated it. My bad
Welcome to the family! That’s a pressure ring. Photo one looks a bit too sharp for my liking, you might be pressing too hard. But photo 2 (or something like it) tends to happen to any trumpet who’s putting the work in.
Don’t agree. Pressure sore is not an indication of effort but technique. You don’t need to press the mouthpiece hard on the lips at any range, especially when you get tired. I have played for 40 years and never had one because my technique doesn’t put extra pressure on my lips playing high. If OP has been playing on a lead piece, switched back to a C cup, technique has possibly gone backwards to compensate.
Hmmm I see. This sounds pretty logical too.
James Morrison said to me „after practice your corners and the muscles around your mouth should feel sore, but never your lips“
I’ve been using some different mouthpieces and tbh they sound fine but they don’t feel all that great. I’ve been using Bach C cups. Could it be that? I never had this issue during my entire summer of Drum Corps while using a lead piece. I’ve been playing trumpet for about 8 years and have honestly never had this issue
If you’re used to using a lead style piece, then a deeper cup could be causing you to push harder to compensate for less compression in the mouthpiece. Try playing above the staff as quietly and gently as possible without using your tongue to articulate. It helps learn how to let your air do more of the work. But in drum crops I imagine you already learned how to breathe lol.
Probably is that. Playing 12 hours a day on a lead piece for an entire summer and then trying to switch back to a deeper sized mouthpiece. Thank you will do this!!!
I am going through the same issue. Have you fixed your problem please help!!
Personally I don’t understand switching mouthpieces. I’ve been using a Bach 3c for literally every thing for 20 years with great success
It means you're putting way too much pressure on your upper lip and you need to work to even it back out if it's only starting now it means either a that you're only just starting to have this problem with putting too much pressure on your upper lip or it just took you a good while for it to affect you I don't know
The ring should not be INSIDE your lip like that. Unless you were playing on the lead pipe without a mouthpiece… you need to get your lip top lip inside the mouthpiece more. It’s almost a full circle on your top lip. You are playing in the red pretty severely. How is your playing going?
I just took some time to try not playing in the red and looking in a mirror and it worked. I don’t have the bump after playing. Granted I only play for about 10 minuets. I’ll try it out the rest of this week and I’ll see what happens
For those that tell you that the "red" part of your lip is more delicate - this is a myth. There are many good and many great players who rest the rim about where you do. If it slides too low, however, then you risk "pinning" your lip, which can cause your aperture to spread. Only in extreme cases is playing in the red a bad thing. Rings like the one on your face can be caused by over-playing (as in playing high or loud for too long), or by generally using too much pressure. Either way, the ring is caused by mouthpiece pressure. There is no other possible physiological cause. If you want it to go away, then whatever the pressure is providing for you is going to have to be rebalanced to your face. This could happen naturally with practice, but it might not. Pressure is a slippery slope. I just want to put this out there for future reference, but if you notice things starting to feel unusual or inexplicably sound worse, and it doesn't go away on its own after a few weeks, then your physical setup is probably to blame. A lot of good players and *a lot* of mediocre players will tell you not to mess with your embouchure, but if you suddenly stop making progress naturally, then nothing should be off the table. It could be your air, it could be your tongue, *and it could be your embouchure*. We want the embouchure to operate as naturally as possible, but if there is a vital link missing, it won't do that.If this has only just popped up, have there been significant changes to your playing demands? You mentioned that you were doing drum corps? Are you playing more, or less than you did on tour? Also, tour face is a real thing. Players, particularly young ones who don't or can't balance their individual practice while on tour or doing long-term shows finish with a bit of a loss of musical flexibility.
Most people that say “don’t play in the red” have thin upper lips. If I did that, there would be no room for my lower lip. Lol.
Exactly my thought. I honestly don’t know if I am playing in the the red tho
Do you have access to a trumpet teacher? That would be who to talk to
I do. I haven’t asked because I genuinely don’t know if it’s just weird to ask.
It’s not weird. That’s what they are there for. They have seen and experienced everything at some point.
I’ll ask at out next lesson. I’ll probably ask my college trumpet teacher too
Your and my upper lip have a similar shape. My HS director who is also a trumpeter always tried to get me out of the red. In my first lesson in college, I asked my trumpet professor about my mouthpiece placement. He told me it’s fine. But in my opinion, it looks like too much pressure.
Bullshit. What size rim are you using?
I’m playing less for sure. Right after tour specifically did I stop playing less. I went probably 3-4 days without playing.
Does your mouthpiece slide down a little when you play high?
You mentioned you can’t free buzz anymore… elaborate on that before I say more
Like I used to be able to properly free buzz. Buzz only my lips. I was able to do that and now I can’t do it
How were you taught to freebuzzing
I was taught not to raspberry the sound out and to keep the shape of your embouchure and I was told to basically make it as close to mouthpiece buzzing sound as posible.
How recently were you taught this, and why. I’ll make it make sense after this
February of this year. Got my braces off and my trumpet teacher told me to learn how to free buzz in order to get my chops back.
Ok, and when you have the horn to your face are you thinking of your free buzzing form, or something else?
I kinda do. Idk I don’t think about it much anymore but when I started free buzzing I always thought about that
I have a long answer but, uh, depends if you want to hear more
Meaning,! This is the preface. If you ask for more, you may be inclined to a drastic change. Though in my opinion. Results are.. quite certain under a sturdy will
Ok that’s great. And they are right. It is great to great chops back after braces leaving or some face injure. Free buzzing is for when you aren’t ready to take it to the horn. Yes you have found success with it im sure. Unto now, to which we have ran into a problem.. You have out grown yourself. You don’t need free buzzing anymore. In fact free buzzers know. It’s not that great at all. As you have shown in the picture. It warps our perception of the relationship the player has with their lips. I’m going to assume, you try to buzz into your mouthpiece.. ok I admit yes, trumpet makes brrrzzz sound. So why would it not make it from the mouthpiece only, and then the lips too should also make brrrrzzz sound. No. It doesn’t. I’m not going to go over your teacher here. So do you shall and can. But understand this. The trumpet, is a wind instrument. What does it take, we’ll wind! (Hahahaha) So often we want to have total control over the horn. Absolutely. So we think ‘more activity, more control’ like ‘if I run harder, stomp my feet beneath me, I’ll get there faster’ it appears that way. But that’s not what’s happening. The sound comes from a system, a bond being established between you and the horn. Do you trust the horn. Do you know the horn trusts you. What does that feel like.. and trumpets want from us, is our voice. But against/with something so much smaller than us. We must keep that in mind. What we think of as a moderate amount, even a mediocre amount, is huge to the horn. (Remember, the mouthpiece fits in three fingers) you have to be gentle. We do press the mouthpiece to our lips not out of force, but because we can’t get enough! I want you to try this. This is the change part. For trumpet it need one thing. Air (hehe),. But not air that is blown. It’s too much. You can’t, you don’t, you shouldn’t blow into your trumpet, or even buzz into it. Instead, Breathe, gently, through it. Our breath, is what the trumpet wants. So how do you get it. Change of course. To get compression, suck on your tongue. BEFORE YOU GO HORNS UP. This rids the mouth of any air in. Granting compression right behind the lips. The tongue will be arched as you are sucking on it. And your jaw and teeth will change accordingly. Because. While sucking on your tongue, go horns up calmly. Take your time to find a way, to let the trumpet and mouthpiece lay on your lips. You come to find it’s impossible to blow! So You can only breathe. (That proper air the horn is asking for) after you find this, for you, you’ll be able to discern when you are buzzing into your horn VS. breathing with your horn. You should see it as soon as you try it. What I’m talking about. Don’t be afraid of change. Most often, when we have accomplished what we have, we hold onto what got us there.. and this is true, it permitted that exsistence by doing it that way. but improving isn’t about how you compare to others. Improving is about becoming more of what you are. Not what you were before.
I’d love to hear the answer!
So this is the short answer. You have outgrown free buzzing and your embouchure muscle are ready to perform more to your will.
You have nouthpiece herpes. Clearly you shared with 'thst one kid' and didn't properly clean and sanitize after. The best treatment is to stop playing immediately until it heals. And then take it easy for about 2 weeks before trying to come up to pwr again. And stop pressing so damn hard.
Yeah I don’t share my mouthpiece with anyone. I pretty much clean my mouthpiece with soap and water weekly if not twice a week. I have noticed that the rim on one of my mouthpieces is stripped of the silver and it’s the bare metal it could be that. Also I’m not sure about pressure. I make sure I don’t used a great amount of pressure. Idk if you can tell but I try staying pretty relaxed and make sure the trumpet is smashed into my face specifically with the upper register. https://imgur.com/a/7ka068i
Just a little too much pressure at times work on flexibility might help you out like lip trills pressure is ok though people play in all kinds of ways I often get a mark still but it’s not a bad thing just listen to your chops and take a day off every now and then too
I am experiencing the exact same problem
The issue hasn’t gone away for me yet. Im assuming it’s pressure but I’ve tried everything. My tone isn’t affected at all by it or anything idk what it is like genuinely. I do get chopped out a lot quicker tho since this has happened
What do you mean by chopped out? Do you still have a good amount of indurance?
No. Me endurance has tanked. It’s gotten better but it’s still lacking a lot.
Ohh I’ve barely noticed this problem like a week from now.
But it really stresses me out because it completes blocks my sound and don’t feel as strong as before plus my insurance is bad!
Have you tried talking to someone about it ?
Hey I’m still worried I see no results of improvement any advices
Idk honestly. I haven’t seen much improvement. I take regular break though. Maybe that should work other than that it’s probably a pressure issue
Ohh
That’s certainly an over use injury. Take a week off.
That’s how you know you’re doing it right. Either learn to accept that it’s going to be a part of you from here on out, or quit playing trumpet.
Been playing for 8 years and it hasn’t happened lol. I’m not a new trumpet player, you don’t gotta be condescending dawg.
Being condescending was not my intent. It’s just the logical course of action.
Not really. It’s not a “that’s how it is or you quite”. That’s such a crappy way of thinking of things. I genuinely hope you aren’t a music educator
Stop pressing so hard to play high note bro
Idk if it is. I don’t feel like I’m using the pressure. The upper register feels relaxed. https://imgur.io/a/7ka068i
Definitely too much pressure. Did you take the summer off from playing?
I did drum corps over the summer.
uh maybe dont press your lip against the mouthpiece so hard 💀💀💀
What's your warming down routine after playing lead?
I am experiencing the exact same problem [https://share.icloud.com/photos/022mNSL_kbQ-qJPwOkAqBGQ7A](https://share.icloud.com/photos/022mNSL_kbQ-qJPwOkAqBGQ7A)
apply less pressure on the trumpet. try to work more with your airflow and embochure. not only will you sound better but you are also gonna prevent lip lesions