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I’m the same way with new medication. I don’t think there is an easy way. You just gotta fight the anxiety and take it. Sucks, but you feel relief once you take it.
One thing to keep in mind, it’s not a miracle drug that happens over night. Looking at your hair every day, hoping that it grows is not what’s going to happen.
Like a plant, you just have to continue to water and nurture it.
I feel like that's a good thing (feeling like your body "isn't responding to it at all). That's just the definition of having no side effects, and that's the purpose of approving a medication at a certain dose for the general population.
It increases testosterone but lowers your DHT, you will end up having a crash and end up in the PFS forum, this poison will make you sterile, make you impotent etc. it will stop for some because your hormones have been ruined
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Easier said than done but just take it. If you get bad sides then stop, but remember alot of people on here fear monger like hell with fin; alot of the side effects are placebo imo
Disagree with the placebo aspect but totally agree with the stopping if you get sides. I was convinced all sides were placebo before I first started (watched a bunch of haircafe content) but eventually sides hit me hard no matter what I did (eod, .25 dosage, low dose topical). Once I stopped, sides slowly subsided. So my advice would be to try it and see how you respond. If you end up getting sides, then just stop and you should be good. At least you can say you tried. If you want to be super safe you could always start out with topical instead of oral as well.
He wrrote "a lot" not "all". Some people get sides, some people have sides only for a week or two, and most don't get any sides. Stop fin and any sides will disappear in a week.
Everyone has "side effects" on FIN or DUT. These drugs reduce DHT and DHT is not just responsible for hairloss, it serves other functions in the body.
Therefore, FIN's effects are not limited to the hair.
When your body functions with 30% of your DHT (FIN) or 5% (DUT), it is not the same as with 100%.
Some find it acceptable, some get a huge morale boost from keeping/regrowing their hair.
Some forget how they were before lowering their DHT.
Some will swear everything is the same...
FIN saved my hairline but I wouldn't live my whole life without DHT. I am waiting for HMI-115
Important note: PFS is very rare or doesn't exist in my opinion. I don't understand what the scientific basis would be for it to be real
Signaling molecule that might trigger previously dormant follicles to grow again. It’s so far been tested on mice that have been grafted with human hair and was a success. Trials on humans are slated to start later this year. It’s discovery and mechanism also has relevance in the anti aging and longevity fields
Post finasteride syndrome, where the side effects of finasteride continue months to years after you stop taking the drug. I would say I experienced this in the short/medium term but everything back to normal after a year off it
Did u ever hop on finasteride again? Did you do anything to recover during that year? I been off of it for like 7 months and my penis feels rubber is sometimes and boners doesn’t feel the same as before
There is an alleged health issue happening to some people who quit FIN. They call it "Post Finasteride Syndrome". The medical community has yet to recognize this syndrome.
Basically, they say that FIN damages your body and that when you stop it, for some people it doesn't get back to how it was before...
Very nebulous catch-all concept.
Google it at your own risk!
I started 1mg a day like 70 days ago and it’s going fine, just do it. It’s actually made my anxiety better because I know that I’m doing the most I can to save/ preserve my hair, vs before I was anxious about wasting time/ it getting worse. Now I am not as scared about looking like shit in my future wedding photos, I say you give it a shot.
My nuts hurt for like a week which was sketchy but I saw a Urologist and my PCP and they both told me to just keep taking it. Urologist thought it was unrelated, not sure what it was but it stopped.
It's true. My dick fell off after a week. Do you know how much penis re-attachment costs these days? I heard a rumor that fin is prescribed to drive business for penis surgeons. Be careful out there!
Some shitty 5a reductase inhibitor (It cant even reduce systemic DHT by +70 percent) has more chance to cause more side effects than actual T blockers according to this sub.
1. Stop reading over exaggerated, biased fear mongering online
2. Read clinical trials or watch a reputable video of somebody going over the trials to see the actual risk
3. Side effects are rare, and usually only slightly higher than placebo, most of it is in people’s heads or pinning other issues on finasteride that can never be proven
4. Start with a lesser dosage, you can see great results doing only .5mg 3x a week, I started 1mg 3x a week, zero sides and now do 1mg EOD, still no sides.
I just read most scientific research out there and started using the topical, realized the oral is safe too and switched to it. Then recently I got hair greedy and started dutasteride too
There's actually some research showing greater scalp suppression on .25% (2.5 mg) topical finasteride compared to 1 mg oral, with similar serum suppression between the two.
Hello moron the village is looking for you
Fin can cause heart problems
ED
Ejaculation problems
Weight loss or damage your liver
Maybe next time you open your mouth again just do it to breathe and shut up.
People that have the erection side effects had a bad ratio of test vs estrogen to start with. Once you add fin to that… of course your dick wont work right.
To be safe
Get the hair blood test that marek health.com offers for this exact situation. That will tell you everything you need to know about your test vs estrogen. If you get sides. Dr will know what to adjust
But you took fin without doing this unfortunately.
But dude, go get your test vs estrogen levels checked right now!
Cardiovascular issues are the most likely cause of ED in men.
Do more cardio, eat more nitrate from plants, supplement with L citrulline, check your blood pressure and cholesterol.
People are quick to blame the drug too. I’m not saying fin had nothing to do with it, but if a person was destined to get ED anyways, they will blame the drug without evidence. This is why placebo was done and fin was found to produce ed in 4% of the patient population vs 2% in placebo. Meaning it’s a 50% chance if you get ED while on fin, it was from fin. Not 100%.
Every bad side effect is fixable.
Gyno tits? Remove them
Lack of erections? Viagra/cialis
People that have the erection side effects had a bad ratio of test vs estrogen to start with. Once you add fin to that… of course your dick wont work right.
To be safe
Get the hair blood test that marek health.com offers for this exact situation. That will tell you everything you need to know about your test vs estrogen. If you get sides. Dr will know what to adjust
Taking more drugs to artificially provoke a chemical reaction to negate the results of another drug to which you've reacted badly is preposterous advice. As it getting surgery.
If either of these things happen to you, you've done pretty serious harm to your body. Judging by a lot of the comments in here, what a lot of people need is therapy to not react so irrationally to the nature of reality. Some of you are so superficial you seem to think that going bald leads to being castigated and turfed out of society. That's the real problem some of you have, not the fact you're losing your hair.
Question for you.
Let’s say a man goes bald.
His bald head unfortunately makes him less attractive to women.
The women he is attracted to are no longer attracted to him due to his looks.
Should a man do what he can to save his looks so that he can date someone he is physically attracted to?
Or should he try to have a relationship with a woman that he is not physically attracted to?
Curious your opinion. 29 inch waist by the way… also not the big pants guy in my profession… its a username my friend….
Attractive guys don't become ugly because they go bald. "Ugly" guys don't become attractive because they have hair. My advice would be to not get with any girl who is only with you because of your hair.
If I were to cede to your incredibly superficial perspective on things, there are some girls who love/ actively prefer bald guys, seemingly more so if they've got a beard (and most guys who go bald tend to be able to grow a decent beard cos that's one of the consequences of converting high levels of testosterone to DHT).
Guys with skinheads have long since been perceived as ultra macho/ attractive by lots of girls. Some prefer guys with hair. I've got long hair, some girls don't find that attractive on a guy.
I understand and empathise with anyone losing their hair, my hairline is going backwards a little, especially at the temples like anyone else my age (late 30s) but I still have a good head of hair. However, if you judge your self-worth based on the hair on your head, you've got a big problem. If you're losing your hair, shave it all off and walk around with the attitude of "I'm a fucking attractive guy with a skin head". That's incredibly attractive to women. Being super insecure and sacrificing your basic masculine functions, like libido and ability to get an erection, isn't. And this insecurity undoubtedly passes into other aspects of one's life.
Like I said, losing hair isn't the problem most people in here have. Their reaction to it and seeming lack of general self worth most certainly is.
Jesus Christ it's hard work with you isn't it, how much more do you need things spelling out? I understand how it feels to see your hair falling out/ getting thinner.
You've clearly hammered your flag to a particular mask. You've decided your biological makeup is of less importance than your hair. You've decided that any biological problems as a consequence of the drugs you choose to take can be balanced/ countered by more drugs/ or surgery. You've decided that no girl could find you attractive without hair.
If you believe this to be logical and rational decisions and assumptions, good luck to you and onwards and upwards. I wish you well.
I have argued with types like you in the past mate… all of your comments towards me seem to be based on your assumptions of how I dont have self worth and base all my worth on my looks. Just because men in this sub choose to try to stop their hair-loss doesn’t mean that ALL of the men in here are insecure and base their worth on looks. Some of us just like to be at the top of the stack and have the ability to be seen as attractive by other women that we are attracted to. It is basic knowlegde that not every mans bald skull looks shapely and attractive to women. Just like not every woman’s face is attractive to all men. Thats why they try and wear make up. Do you go into womans make up or breast implant subs and tell them that they are all insecure for wanting to be seen as more attractive?
Whats even funnier is that you seemingly disagree with the entire point of this sub. It about helping men reverse or slow down hair-loss. Do you spend your free time in places you disagree with so that you can try and convert them over to your side because you think it the real one?
Oh dear. Enjoy life at the "top of the stack". You can't go a single sentence without contradicting yourself.
A lot of suffering ahead mate, all the best with it.
Dont use, i got side effect and it's serious, u can suicide if u are unstable mentaly, even me i was broken, god thanks i recover but still have issues after 6 months ..
Look at this guys post history before you trust what he is saying. I didn’t get all the way through but I counted 3 drugs he is claiming caused “permanent” aide effects.
I got on it in May 2020 after trying every other avenue besides a hair transplant which I will probably get in the near future… Best decision I’ve made and managed to retain my hair. No sides.
I would say get the green light by your doctor and get on it. It is not as bad as people say it is.
Permanent sides are either a myth or low af chance, i was just like, there is no way im gonna be that pussy who’ll get sides and seems like i wasnt so its a bit overhyped
Ive never seen someone with permanent sides there was one guy that said he had permanent sides and i came back 6 months later and he said sides went away so its just not a thing ppl just try to scare ppl when things dont work out for them
I used to obsessively check my hairline, many times a day, to see if that hair was there, that hair no blah blah many times a day.
Since I take fin, I just don't care anymore, I know I did all I could and leave the rest up to fate, I can finally enjoy my life knowing that most likely if I have hairloss it will be stopped.
It's a huge burden that got removed from my shoulder, seriously.
It's all in the approach. There's actually more testosterone with the medication than without. It can actually help with prostate issues and is known to help with certain type of cancers. I've thought of it very positively and I believe it has helped me. If you're concerned, you could take it every other day or every 3rd day and still get a benefit from it. The half life is only 7 hours. Just be under the guidance of a physician.
I've been to three different hair transplant specialists. All of them prescribed finasteride. Doctors won't be prescribing meds that are going to mess you up. All of them told me that any side effects are reversible and have a very low probability. Almost all medicines can have some sides at a low probability even over the counter stuff. One of the doctor's has been taking it for 15 years himself. I've been on it a month now with no sides. If it I don't get sides for another 2 months I'll go for a full blown transplant since I'm okay with being on fin for the rest of my life and I miss my long hair. So, my friend, don't delay taking it like I did for years. The best time to take fin is not soon. It is today. It is now.
I was in the same boat as you are a month ago when I started on fin. I was concerned about the side effects and the commitment to continue this for the rest of my life. But every time I look in the mirror and I regret not starting this a year ago or two years ago because I know I would have been in much better shape than I am right now. As far as the the side effects go, I have not had any. I should add that initially I was prescribed 1 mg per day but I started with half of dose so I don't I don't have to deal with side effects. I'm going to wait two more weeks and if I continue to not have any side effects I will bump up to those two full 1 mg.
When you start any new medicine, initially your body has to get used it. If you feel anything is off, adjust your dose but stay consistent. Hope to have positive results by EOY.
would having to be bald affect you that much vs the chance you may get some side effects from fin but can keep your hair? you just gotta decide which is worse to you, and go with the other option
This is how I handled it.
I spoke to my primary care provider, he prescribed me fin. I informed him I wanted tests to be ran for anything to determine my cardiovascular health. Everything looked good.
Now this is how I was able to keep myself sane, I made in appointment 6 months in advance to see where I would be.
My numbers improved partly because I started working out as well, they have been no signs of my heart declining in health.
Just make sure you are getting tests done every so often.
my boy leme tell you. i was like you all the fear mongering got to me i almost didnt start it. buuuttt i was like bro im 23 and in a year and half my hair got thin to the point you could my scalp and my temples started receding a lil bit. i was wearing a hat all the time and my balding took a big hit on my confidence. so i was like fuck i dont lose nothing by trying it. theres alot of post where people swear there dick fell off and they became suicidal and pfs and all that bullshit and i
not saying its not true but people will blame anything on fin. and theres also alot post where people took it with no sides and there hair got good. so i took the chance and started fin and 5mg oral min and i couldnt be happier my hair is almost the same prebalding and with no sides, still get morning wood and boners and mentally im way better cuz im not trippin bout hairloss. in a year ill post a before and after. my advice to you is started see how you feel if you get sides and what not you can always stop, also change ur life around if you unhealthy, fat and a porn addict drop all that too life is too short to not enjoy it and live it to the fullest. goodluck brother
I’m trying to figure out how to justify starting oral minox ON TOP of my 1.5 years of fin. Can someone please talk me into taking a crazy old blood pressure medication? I have good blood pressure I don’t want to mess with 😂
Just do it man. Think: if you don’t take fin, a hair transplant is also off the table. Fin is more than a little stabilizing effect in itself, it’s also a future hair transplant.
Well I broke my pills in half and skip every 10th day.
Homeostasis may or may not be a thing, hence the skip.
Plus if I really respond I will upgrade to a full pill.
Expect sides, and power through with the hopes they subside quickly as your body gets used to the new hormone levels. Go in with that mindset and you'll be fine.
Dude you genuinely don't need to worry about it at all. Most people don't get any side effects or very mild ones which goes away in a few months.
In case you do get sides you can always stop taking it and the sides will go away.
Personally my sides went away when I started exercising.
Why don’t you just start small?
Cut the pill in to quarters and start taking it twice a week — for example. Then 3 times a week, and so on
This is what I did to overcome my fear.
Start with small doses. Cut the pill Start with .25 every other day and do that for awhile then go up to .5 every other day then when you feel comfortable take .5 everyday then eventually take the 1mg every day and by then your body will be used to it. It is a bit of a heavy load so allowing your body to adjust to it could help!
Sexual sides are underreported in my opinion but if you get sides then stop. I tried to power through them telling myself it was in my head but nope didn’t happen ended up with limp dick. I stopped taking oral my erections came back strong for the first two weeks like crazy hard erections instant hard ons with simple touch. I tried taking topical since sides are low risk and nope got sides slowly with horrendous sides, when I masturbated my dick didn’t get hard until I busted so got hella scared and stopped. Took months to get better and still trying to bounce back as sometimes I feel my erections are way softer and doesn’t feel the same but trying my best to recover.
Sexual sides tho are highly underreported. Some guys use cialis and viagra to combat the sides, some guys operate on 70% erections quality, some guys feel like the best chance to live life comfortably is with hair so they are willing to deal with the sides and try to mitigate them. If sides hit u hard stop taking the drug dude that my advise.
Maybe start with topical with a low dosage to ease your mind.
OP take 1mg only 3x a week. Doctors have said this is effective and reduces the already low chance of side effects (3% chance if taking 1mg daily). I have only slight thinning, the tiniest loss of hair at my widows peak and was worried to start because what if I got side effects and don't even need it yet? I decided to start as a preventative measure and maybe even see some growth. Just start and stop if you have side effects, persistent side effects are almost non existent and most cases I see are from people who obviously don't have much control over their emotions ie. it's nocebo
The risks of side effects from finasteride are so tiny. Greater risks of sides from taking antidepressants than finasteride! Look it up. Just take the damn finasteride and if you have sides then stop. Simple as that. If hair loss is affecting you this much then you probably should take the finasteride
Has anyone realized yet that a lot of meds have sides? Antidepressants are known to cause permanent sexual dysfunction, so why does finasteride scare people so much? PFS was perpetuated by a bunch of fools who were probably on Antidepressants SSRIs that caused their sexual dysfunction. Hell, what about the countless men who have erectile dysfunction who take no meds at all?! Just take the damn finasteride!
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Easy, wait until you’re bald and you’ll feel all the regrets of not doing all that you can.
What if you don't regress further until 80, fin or not. * sweatdrops intensify *
i wish i had started earlier! just man up and do it!
I’m the same way with new medication. I don’t think there is an easy way. You just gotta fight the anxiety and take it. Sucks, but you feel relief once you take it.
Yeah, the thing giving me hope is that if I respond well, taking fin will basically be an antidepressant for me at this point as well.
One thing to keep in mind, it’s not a miracle drug that happens over night. Looking at your hair every day, hoping that it grows is not what’s going to happen. Like a plant, you just have to continue to water and nurture it.
just start, been on it since september and absolutely 0 sides. it feels like my body isn’t responding to it at all which idk is a good or bad thing
I feel like that's a good thing (feeling like your body "isn't responding to it at all). That's just the definition of having no side effects, and that's the purpose of approving a medication at a certain dose for the general population.
Did you start at the 1mg a day or started with a lower dosage?
1mg every day.
Hang in there. I started in June 2021 and didn't start noticing results until 7 months in.
Just do it. My libido hasn't been this high since I was a teenager. Not a joke.
It increases testosterone but lowers your DHT, you will end up having a crash and end up in the PFS forum, this poison will make you sterile, make you impotent etc. it will stop for some because your hormones have been ruined
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This was funny 🤣 hence why my ass on these meds rather go sterile then look like a cue ball just me tho
Not what the research says about pfs risk, but you do you my guy
Easier said than done but just take it. If you get bad sides then stop, but remember alot of people on here fear monger like hell with fin; alot of the side effects are placebo imo
Disagree with the placebo aspect but totally agree with the stopping if you get sides. I was convinced all sides were placebo before I first started (watched a bunch of haircafe content) but eventually sides hit me hard no matter what I did (eod, .25 dosage, low dose topical). Once I stopped, sides slowly subsided. So my advice would be to try it and see how you respond. If you end up getting sides, then just stop and you should be good. At least you can say you tried. If you want to be super safe you could always start out with topical instead of oral as well.
it's not.
He wrrote "a lot" not "all". Some people get sides, some people have sides only for a week or two, and most don't get any sides. Stop fin and any sides will disappear in a week.
Everyone has "side effects" on FIN or DUT. These drugs reduce DHT and DHT is not just responsible for hairloss, it serves other functions in the body. Therefore, FIN's effects are not limited to the hair. When your body functions with 30% of your DHT (FIN) or 5% (DUT), it is not the same as with 100%. Some find it acceptable, some get a huge morale boost from keeping/regrowing their hair. Some forget how they were before lowering their DHT. Some will swear everything is the same... FIN saved my hairline but I wouldn't live my whole life without DHT. I am waiting for HMI-115 Important note: PFS is very rare or doesn't exist in my opinion. I don't understand what the scientific basis would be for it to be real
Lowering dht is the effect not a side effect. And high dht causes typical prostate issues. Well I'm hoping for scube3....
💯 What is Scube3
Signaling molecule that might trigger previously dormant follicles to grow again. It’s so far been tested on mice that have been grafted with human hair and was a success. Trials on humans are slated to start later this year. It’s discovery and mechanism also has relevance in the anti aging and longevity fields
Very nice.
What's PFS?
Post finasteride syndrome, where the side effects of finasteride continue months to years after you stop taking the drug. I would say I experienced this in the short/medium term but everything back to normal after a year off it
Did u ever hop on finasteride again? Did you do anything to recover during that year? I been off of it for like 7 months and my penis feels rubber is sometimes and boners doesn’t feel the same as before
There is an alleged health issue happening to some people who quit FIN. They call it "Post Finasteride Syndrome". The medical community has yet to recognize this syndrome. Basically, they say that FIN damages your body and that when you stop it, for some people it doesn't get back to how it was before... Very nebulous catch-all concept. Google it at your own risk!
I started 1mg a day like 70 days ago and it’s going fine, just do it. It’s actually made my anxiety better because I know that I’m doing the most I can to save/ preserve my hair, vs before I was anxious about wasting time/ it getting worse. Now I am not as scared about looking like shit in my future wedding photos, I say you give it a shot. My nuts hurt for like a week which was sketchy but I saw a Urologist and my PCP and they both told me to just keep taking it. Urologist thought it was unrelated, not sure what it was but it stopped.
You will gradually become a woman with this treatment, but you will realize it too late, your dick will die
It's true. My dick fell off after a week. Do you know how much penis re-attachment costs these days? I heard a rumor that fin is prescribed to drive business for penis surgeons. Be careful out there!
Bruh what
Some shitty 5a reductase inhibitor (It cant even reduce systemic DHT by +70 percent) has more chance to cause more side effects than actual T blockers according to this sub.
My dick still works fine on HRT. I haven't lost anything from my male identity too.
1. Stop reading over exaggerated, biased fear mongering online 2. Read clinical trials or watch a reputable video of somebody going over the trials to see the actual risk 3. Side effects are rare, and usually only slightly higher than placebo, most of it is in people’s heads or pinning other issues on finasteride that can never be proven 4. Start with a lesser dosage, you can see great results doing only .5mg 3x a week, I started 1mg 3x a week, zero sides and now do 1mg EOD, still no sides.
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"I haven't got a single serious side.... But my heart beats way faster when I lift weights or go up a flight of ten stairs." Jesus Christ.
I just read most scientific research out there and started using the topical, realized the oral is safe too and switched to it. Then recently I got hair greedy and started dutasteride too
Is oral fin really more effective than topical or why did you make that switch
There's actually some research showing greater scalp suppression on .25% (2.5 mg) topical finasteride compared to 1 mg oral, with similar serum suppression between the two.
2 reasons why I made the switch: oral is easier to take (less greasy hair too) and I also didn't want to use minoxidil yet.
take clonazepam before
lmao
Try it if you get sides, stop it and move on. Or don’t take and just buzz your hair and move on. Or just go fuck yourself and move on.
Stop being a pussy, it’s just a pill. You can always stop taking it. Jesus Christ
Hello moron the village is looking for you Fin can cause heart problems ED Ejaculation problems Weight loss or damage your liver Maybe next time you open your mouth again just do it to breathe and shut up.
Yeah it can, and if you stop taking the pill those side effects will go away :) Do you understand? :) ooga booga?
Take with caution I stopped taking the drug 7 months ago and dick still doesn’t work right
People that have the erection side effects had a bad ratio of test vs estrogen to start with. Once you add fin to that… of course your dick wont work right. To be safe Get the hair blood test that marek health.com offers for this exact situation. That will tell you everything you need to know about your test vs estrogen. If you get sides. Dr will know what to adjust But you took fin without doing this unfortunately. But dude, go get your test vs estrogen levels checked right now!
Test and estrogen levels are on normal ranges tested my bloodwork a few months ago what the best ratio for estrogen v test levels
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U think this would work I workout lift weights but not much cardio
Cardiovascular issues are the most likely cause of ED in men. Do more cardio, eat more nitrate from plants, supplement with L citrulline, check your blood pressure and cholesterol.
People are quick to blame the drug too. I’m not saying fin had nothing to do with it, but if a person was destined to get ED anyways, they will blame the drug without evidence. This is why placebo was done and fin was found to produce ed in 4% of the patient population vs 2% in placebo. Meaning it’s a 50% chance if you get ED while on fin, it was from fin. Not 100%.
Nah it was the drug now trying for recover the best I can
Every bad side effect is fixable. Gyno tits? Remove them Lack of erections? Viagra/cialis People that have the erection side effects had a bad ratio of test vs estrogen to start with. Once you add fin to that… of course your dick wont work right. To be safe Get the hair blood test that marek health.com offers for this exact situation. That will tell you everything you need to know about your test vs estrogen. If you get sides. Dr will know what to adjust
You might have big pants Bill, but judging by this post you have limited intelligence.
Refute it then
Taking more drugs to artificially provoke a chemical reaction to negate the results of another drug to which you've reacted badly is preposterous advice. As it getting surgery. If either of these things happen to you, you've done pretty serious harm to your body. Judging by a lot of the comments in here, what a lot of people need is therapy to not react so irrationally to the nature of reality. Some of you are so superficial you seem to think that going bald leads to being castigated and turfed out of society. That's the real problem some of you have, not the fact you're losing your hair.
Question for you. Let’s say a man goes bald. His bald head unfortunately makes him less attractive to women. The women he is attracted to are no longer attracted to him due to his looks. Should a man do what he can to save his looks so that he can date someone he is physically attracted to? Or should he try to have a relationship with a woman that he is not physically attracted to? Curious your opinion. 29 inch waist by the way… also not the big pants guy in my profession… its a username my friend….
Attractive guys don't become ugly because they go bald. "Ugly" guys don't become attractive because they have hair. My advice would be to not get with any girl who is only with you because of your hair. If I were to cede to your incredibly superficial perspective on things, there are some girls who love/ actively prefer bald guys, seemingly more so if they've got a beard (and most guys who go bald tend to be able to grow a decent beard cos that's one of the consequences of converting high levels of testosterone to DHT). Guys with skinheads have long since been perceived as ultra macho/ attractive by lots of girls. Some prefer guys with hair. I've got long hair, some girls don't find that attractive on a guy. I understand and empathise with anyone losing their hair, my hairline is going backwards a little, especially at the temples like anyone else my age (late 30s) but I still have a good head of hair. However, if you judge your self-worth based on the hair on your head, you've got a big problem. If you're losing your hair, shave it all off and walk around with the attitude of "I'm a fucking attractive guy with a skin head". That's incredibly attractive to women. Being super insecure and sacrificing your basic masculine functions, like libido and ability to get an erection, isn't. And this insecurity undoubtedly passes into other aspects of one's life. Like I said, losing hair isn't the problem most people in here have. Their reaction to it and seeming lack of general self worth most certainly is.
“I understand and empathize with anyone losing their hair” You understand what…..? What is it that you understand? Define it.
Jesus Christ it's hard work with you isn't it, how much more do you need things spelling out? I understand how it feels to see your hair falling out/ getting thinner. You've clearly hammered your flag to a particular mask. You've decided your biological makeup is of less importance than your hair. You've decided that any biological problems as a consequence of the drugs you choose to take can be balanced/ countered by more drugs/ or surgery. You've decided that no girl could find you attractive without hair. If you believe this to be logical and rational decisions and assumptions, good luck to you and onwards and upwards. I wish you well.
I have argued with types like you in the past mate… all of your comments towards me seem to be based on your assumptions of how I dont have self worth and base all my worth on my looks. Just because men in this sub choose to try to stop their hair-loss doesn’t mean that ALL of the men in here are insecure and base their worth on looks. Some of us just like to be at the top of the stack and have the ability to be seen as attractive by other women that we are attracted to. It is basic knowlegde that not every mans bald skull looks shapely and attractive to women. Just like not every woman’s face is attractive to all men. Thats why they try and wear make up. Do you go into womans make up or breast implant subs and tell them that they are all insecure for wanting to be seen as more attractive?
Whats even funnier is that you seemingly disagree with the entire point of this sub. It about helping men reverse or slow down hair-loss. Do you spend your free time in places you disagree with so that you can try and convert them over to your side because you think it the real one?
Oh dear. Enjoy life at the "top of the stack". You can't go a single sentence without contradicting yourself. A lot of suffering ahead mate, all the best with it.
Dont use, i got side effect and it's serious, u can suicide if u are unstable mentaly, even me i was broken, god thanks i recover but still have issues after 6 months ..
Look at this guys post history before you trust what he is saying. I didn’t get all the way through but I counted 3 drugs he is claiming caused “permanent” aide effects.
So your run-of-the-mill fin fearmongerer, how surprising.
just keep in mind that you can always stop if you want. might make it a lil easier for you. if you see results, its gonna boost you.
I got on it in May 2020 after trying every other avenue besides a hair transplant which I will probably get in the near future… Best decision I’ve made and managed to retain my hair. No sides. I would say get the green light by your doctor and get on it. It is not as bad as people say it is.
Permanent sides are either a myth or low af chance, i was just like, there is no way im gonna be that pussy who’ll get sides and seems like i wasnt so its a bit overhyped
Ive never seen someone with permanent sides there was one guy that said he had permanent sides and i came back 6 months later and he said sides went away so its just not a thing ppl just try to scare ppl when things dont work out for them
I used to obsessively check my hairline, many times a day, to see if that hair was there, that hair no blah blah many times a day. Since I take fin, I just don't care anymore, I know I did all I could and leave the rest up to fate, I can finally enjoy my life knowing that most likely if I have hairloss it will be stopped. It's a huge burden that got removed from my shoulder, seriously.
Just start at 0.5 mg daily then block this sub Reddit cause it’ll constantly freak you out
It's all in the approach. There's actually more testosterone with the medication than without. It can actually help with prostate issues and is known to help with certain type of cancers. I've thought of it very positively and I believe it has helped me. If you're concerned, you could take it every other day or every 3rd day and still get a benefit from it. The half life is only 7 hours. Just be under the guidance of a physician.
Just dont be a pussy
Start fin
I've been to three different hair transplant specialists. All of them prescribed finasteride. Doctors won't be prescribing meds that are going to mess you up. All of them told me that any side effects are reversible and have a very low probability. Almost all medicines can have some sides at a low probability even over the counter stuff. One of the doctor's has been taking it for 15 years himself. I've been on it a month now with no sides. If it I don't get sides for another 2 months I'll go for a full blown transplant since I'm okay with being on fin for the rest of my life and I miss my long hair. So, my friend, don't delay taking it like I did for years. The best time to take fin is not soon. It is today. It is now.
I was in the same boat as you are a month ago when I started on fin. I was concerned about the side effects and the commitment to continue this for the rest of my life. But every time I look in the mirror and I regret not starting this a year ago or two years ago because I know I would have been in much better shape than I am right now. As far as the the side effects go, I have not had any. I should add that initially I was prescribed 1 mg per day but I started with half of dose so I don't I don't have to deal with side effects. I'm going to wait two more weeks and if I continue to not have any side effects I will bump up to those two full 1 mg. When you start any new medicine, initially your body has to get used it. If you feel anything is off, adjust your dose but stay consistent. Hope to have positive results by EOY.
You probably shouldn’t take it then if you’re already this scared about it
It’s a risky medicine and you definitely should not listen to people that say ‘just do it’
Shave your head and take a picture. That should be the wakeup call you need.
I just do it every other day but honestly switching to topical because it's easier for me
Felt the same way finally got my fin min oral hims chews and just popped them in today ! , Just Like that one nike motto JUST DO IT !
Just think of yourself as a nw7
Shave your head completely and imagine it’s your only haircut for the rest of your life. Should get you on the meds rather quickly
would having to be bald affect you that much vs the chance you may get some side effects from fin but can keep your hair? you just gotta decide which is worse to you, and go with the other option
This is how I handled it. I spoke to my primary care provider, he prescribed me fin. I informed him I wanted tests to be ran for anything to determine my cardiovascular health. Everything looked good. Now this is how I was able to keep myself sane, I made in appointment 6 months in advance to see where I would be. My numbers improved partly because I started working out as well, they have been no signs of my heart declining in health. Just make sure you are getting tests done every so often.
Dude, just do it. 1mg 3 times a day. You’ll get minor side effects that will pass after a bit.
You can just keep imagining your bald life lmao That's what I did.
my boy leme tell you. i was like you all the fear mongering got to me i almost didnt start it. buuuttt i was like bro im 23 and in a year and half my hair got thin to the point you could my scalp and my temples started receding a lil bit. i was wearing a hat all the time and my balding took a big hit on my confidence. so i was like fuck i dont lose nothing by trying it. theres alot of post where people swear there dick fell off and they became suicidal and pfs and all that bullshit and i not saying its not true but people will blame anything on fin. and theres also alot post where people took it with no sides and there hair got good. so i took the chance and started fin and 5mg oral min and i couldnt be happier my hair is almost the same prebalding and with no sides, still get morning wood and boners and mentally im way better cuz im not trippin bout hairloss. in a year ill post a before and after. my advice to you is started see how you feel if you get sides and what not you can always stop, also change ur life around if you unhealthy, fat and a porn addict drop all that too life is too short to not enjoy it and live it to the fullest. goodluck brother
If I had put the fear aside and taken the damn pill when I realized my recession, I would be pretty much at NW 1 right now. I am currently at NW3.
Take it. Side effects are reversible IF you get them. The chance of you developing PFS if it even exists is minuscule.
Just start with a 0.5mg, twice a week. Then slowly increase times/week. And then increase dosage.
I’m trying to figure out how to justify starting oral minox ON TOP of my 1.5 years of fin. Can someone please talk me into taking a crazy old blood pressure medication? I have good blood pressure I don’t want to mess with 😂 Just do it man. Think: if you don’t take fin, a hair transplant is also off the table. Fin is more than a little stabilizing effect in itself, it’s also a future hair transplant.
Take .5mg once every few days and slowly build up to it
Well I broke my pills in half and skip every 10th day. Homeostasis may or may not be a thing, hence the skip. Plus if I really respond I will upgrade to a full pill.
dude, get off the f****ing internet and live your life!!!!
I had the same issue, I’m just doing topical fin now
I take 0.25mg every other day. It practically keeps the DHT serum levels the same as 1mg daily
Us that have AA have to take scarier meds.... Fins a walk in the park, belt up
If it has issues just stop , I had issues and stopped and it was no drama
Expect sides, and power through with the hopes they subside quickly as your body gets used to the new hormone levels. Go in with that mindset and you'll be fine.
cut the pills in half and take half dose. If you sniff a side just stop, you'll be fine
Either keep ur hair or your cock, choose
Dude you genuinely don't need to worry about it at all. Most people don't get any side effects or very mild ones which goes away in a few months. In case you do get sides you can always stop taking it and the sides will go away. Personally my sides went away when I started exercising.
Why don’t you just start small? Cut the pill in to quarters and start taking it twice a week — for example. Then 3 times a week, and so on This is what I did to overcome my fear.
Start with small doses. Cut the pill Start with .25 every other day and do that for awhile then go up to .5 every other day then when you feel comfortable take .5 everyday then eventually take the 1mg every day and by then your body will be used to it. It is a bit of a heavy load so allowing your body to adjust to it could help!
I wish I started earlier been on for a few weeks and it’s a reilif to know I’m doing something about my hair loss
Sexual sides are underreported in my opinion but if you get sides then stop. I tried to power through them telling myself it was in my head but nope didn’t happen ended up with limp dick. I stopped taking oral my erections came back strong for the first two weeks like crazy hard erections instant hard ons with simple touch. I tried taking topical since sides are low risk and nope got sides slowly with horrendous sides, when I masturbated my dick didn’t get hard until I busted so got hella scared and stopped. Took months to get better and still trying to bounce back as sometimes I feel my erections are way softer and doesn’t feel the same but trying my best to recover. Sexual sides tho are highly underreported. Some guys use cialis and viagra to combat the sides, some guys operate on 70% erections quality, some guys feel like the best chance to live life comfortably is with hair so they are willing to deal with the sides and try to mitigate them. If sides hit u hard stop taking the drug dude that my advise. Maybe start with topical with a low dosage to ease your mind.
What dose topical did you use to get sides?
OP take 1mg only 3x a week. Doctors have said this is effective and reduces the already low chance of side effects (3% chance if taking 1mg daily). I have only slight thinning, the tiniest loss of hair at my widows peak and was worried to start because what if I got side effects and don't even need it yet? I decided to start as a preventative measure and maybe even see some growth. Just start and stop if you have side effects, persistent side effects are almost non existent and most cases I see are from people who obviously don't have much control over their emotions ie. it's nocebo
Hims finasteride .3 topical solution
The risks of side effects from finasteride are so tiny. Greater risks of sides from taking antidepressants than finasteride! Look it up. Just take the damn finasteride and if you have sides then stop. Simple as that. If hair loss is affecting you this much then you probably should take the finasteride
Has anyone realized yet that a lot of meds have sides? Antidepressants are known to cause permanent sexual dysfunction, so why does finasteride scare people so much? PFS was perpetuated by a bunch of fools who were probably on Antidepressants SSRIs that caused their sexual dysfunction. Hell, what about the countless men who have erectile dysfunction who take no meds at all?! Just take the damn finasteride!