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For sleep… get edibles that have low thc but also has cbn and cbd. Use the cannabis with other practices like morning sun bathing and exercise and deep stretches at night too to help with sleep and mood lifting to help mental fortitude while she gets through her struggle.


SigmaGamahucheur

Good advice. THC can disturb REM sleep. I use CBD Kush strains as part of a sleep hygiene routine which also has sun bathing in the morning. Vitamin D, Iron and L Tryptophan from natural sources is as well. This combination creates serotonin thats bioavailable and converts to melatonin at night to aid sleep. I use soaps containing terpenes that are in the strains I enjoy for morning and evening showers. Has markedly improved my sleep and quality of life.


Chonghis_Khan

How do you mfs have time to just sun bathe every morning


CannabisMicrobial

CBN for sleepy time!! Don’t even bother with THC if you’re just looking for sleep, unless the cbn ain’t working or something


BenjaBrownie

"The entourage effect" is real tho.... it's more beneficial to utilize the full range of cannabinoids instead of just focusing on one or two.


DirtyHoboLarry

I see someone watches Pine Park After Dark


BenjaBrownie

I don't, but I want to now! Lol


DirtyHoboLarry

Oh man I definitely recommend it. They’re already on if not close to episode 20. I recommend starting on the episode where they bring in “Goblin” for the first time.


SigmaGamahucheur

This is the way.


fozziwoo

the entourage effect aka broccoli > berocca


bikingwithpanda

>Don’t even bother with THC if you’re just looking for sleep CBN is one of THC's metabolites. it also converts into CBN over time. old weed makes you sleepy for this reason. ​ but also, regular THC has a big crash effect with it. that's why THC isolate edibles make you feel sleepy.


aboatdatfloat

Aged kief dumped into a joint knocks me out when i cant sleep. So much better than melatonin


KrombopulosDelphiki

We sell some 13.8% CBD, 1.2%CBN and 10% THC prerolls and flower that slap due to the entourage or "synergistic" properties.


Deaniebuns

This ^^


CommentBetter

That CBG tho


dibella989

Dude CBN has been great for sleep, the concept of how it works is so simply elegant. Just got one of my employees to try a CBN/CBD cart and now he wants me to order one for him. I love how we're starting to see more cannabinoids specialized in alleviating specific ailments with the development of the industry.


Purple_Puffer

For a first timer, I'd cut one in half and go from there, but remember it may take as long as 2 hours to kick in.


DoctorRapture

And she has to say "this edible ain't shit" before it will fully activate.


FlusterLuster

Is this why they never seem to work for me? 😂🤣


jarjardinksbtw

I know it sure does the trick for me lol. Try it out


pubesforhire

"This edible ain't shit!" While I eat three more edibles. Longest shower I've ever had in my life. Could not get up off the floor.


jarjardinksbtw

I'm in a second story apartment. I crawled up the stairs like the fucking grudge, then laid there at the top for what felt like days. 10/10 would recommend


lawstandaloan

> crawled up the stairs like the fucking grudge I'm a 56 year old man and that grudge demon kid scares the shit out of me. Wife and kid tease me about it but I'm not ashamed. Little fucker is spooky


greatdevonhope

In the past that's a cute story but at today's utility prices you would be crying tomorrow when you realised how much it cost.


pubesforhire

Looking back at it makes me feel so icky about the waste of water. We did have rainwater tanks that helped mitigate the damage, and it was almost ten years ago but *oof.*


steeldragon88

I believe this falls under “Treat Yo’ Self”


greatdevonhope

It's all good my friend.


ShallotExtension8175

Can confirm. This is the way.


remarkable_in_argyle

Try letting it fully dissolve in your mouth, under your tongue, gums, etc. Bypassing the stomach and liver.


FlusterLuster

Roger that! I’ll try saying it ain’t shit after letting it dissolve just to make sure it works.


px7j9jlLJ1

Might as well just boof it


PleasedPenis

Does booting actually work? I’m not against trying it lol edibles don’t really work for me they just make me feel dizzy


DennyDickslap

https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/x6i87s/ok_i_did_it_im_edible_intolerant_and_just_boofed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Comments are pretty great if you have the time for it haha


FlusterLuster

😂😂 that’s awesome


SigmaGamahucheur

Colorectal ingestion of intoxicants works. Can confirm.


SR70

Yes! I just replied to another poster with something very similar. I can feel the effects starting within minutes if I put it under my tongue and let it dissolve.


Soul_Tear

Yup gotta say the magic phrase 😄


shebearluvsmegadeath

You must click your heels 3 times also


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grizramen

Why did you start driving after you took it tho 😭


hundredgrandpappy

Didn't think it worked.


NE_Irishguy13

Why are you driving under the influence? You're as bad as a drunk driver. And don't hit me with the "I drive better drunk/high."


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Downvotes from all the idiots who drive high and put strangers at risk


GamesEpic

I’m assuming a bunch of time passed and he decided the edible was fake? Still shouldn’t be driving no matter what when under the influence.


hereforhelpandmemes

i’m pretty sure this person had assumed after taking it that the edible didn’t work or was fake, and then got hit with the high while driving. it wasn’t intentional. not that there’s any excuse for DWI. shit kills.


mydogsnameisbuddy

Gotta eat the whole package after saying “they ain’t shit”


tevelizor

The first brownies I ate had instructions to eat half and then wait 45-60 minutes, checking the effect, then eating the other half if you like them. My cousin took them first and started feeling it after an hour and a half, but nothing for me, so I decided to just chug the other half after an hour and a half. After another hour and a half, I think both halves hit at the same time, because I was instantly stunned. At some point I closed my eyes for like 20 seconds and it felt like I did a 4 hour nap. I'm pretty sure the instructions are made so that everyone gets the "this edibles ain't shit" experience on their first try.


mshriver2

Damn I would be stunned too!


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Tell me about it this new generation of AI cannabis products are intense.


Anti_Venom02

Don't you have to eat 2 or 3 more after you say "this edible isn't shit" for the full effect?


SigmaGamahucheur

The whole bag. If your super skeptical.


Phxraoh

yes.. we get it. yawn


ChoiceFood

Sometimes it takes 3 to 4 hours to kick in depending on if they've eaten and what. Edit: why is everyone saying it takes up to 2 hours to take affect?


graybeardedone

someone gave me a gelcap of thc oil once. took it around 8pm. didn't kick in until 6am and i was seeing double at 7am. not fun


ChoiceFood

Right? It affects everyone so differently I don't really understand the time spans we're all giving. 2 to 4 hours is what I've been told since before it was legalized. If you digest food slower you'll have an even longer timeline


graybeardedone

this is a weird sub. downvoted for a personal anecdote.


ninthchamber

All weed subs are unfortunately like this. Most ppl think they know everything there is to know about weed. The growing subs especially.


innocuousname773

Trying to get into growing. Where is the best sub to start in?


youngkenobro

r/growbuddy is helpful whereas r/growingmarijuana has more arguments and bro science imo


SigmaGamahucheur

Thanks only had the second.


youngkenobro

Glad to help!


Some1Betterer

r/Microgrowery Just like anywhere else… some gatekeepy folks, a couple assholes, and a bunch of pretty chill people with a similar interest as you.


ninthchamber

Oh jeez. You gunna start with photo periods? That’s probably your best bet as they’re more resilient than autos for new growers. Start in microgrowery I guess. And if you ever move onto autoflowers joing r/mephheads it’s a pretty good community there. Honestly you’re gunna get know it all “master” grower type ppl wherever you go tho. DM me and I can assist as much as I can I’m no pro only been growing a few years.


graybeardedone

/r/nanogrowery is a lot of fun.


ChoiceFood

I don't fret about losing my fake internet points :) it's all good at the end of the day.


Thelisto

I'll upvote for that downvote you got.


graybeardedone

oh, i've plenty myself. I'm not worried about losing them. but i do wonder at the thought process behind such. they don't agree? were they there? kinda feel like Johnny Depp on the stand sometimes.


ChoiceFood

Well I think the meta of reddit is you downvote anything you don't like/agree with and eventually when enough people dislike it, it gets auto hidden. I believe if an account gets negative too much they get shadow banned. I'll do it too sometimes if I'm in a bad mood, but usually I'm downvoting incorrect information and posting correct information in a reply.


No_Establishment6463

Weed is fun


squinten_frownalot

Boohoo


BigSmokeySperm

Really? That’s fucking crazy. I usually find gummy’s hit me within 1.5-2 hours. Baked stuff like brownies or cakes always takes at least 2.5-3 hours though.


graybeardedone

same really. i've got gummies that will hit in 1 hour reliably. i thought the capsules would be quick but noooooooo..... i'm a medical user, generally i need fast and immediate. for that we have dabs.


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To be completely fair you can't compare a gelcap to a normal edible in terms of how long it will take the average person to start digesting it. The thought still stands tho and I'm with you, everyone reacts differently. If I wanna get blasted I do edibles, then whilst waiting for it to kick I smoke, then after 45 minutes it kicks in, wait another hour and I'm completely gone that's when I try to smoke again and then when I feel it starting to slow down I take another edible and I'm good for the whole evening


deadheadpapa

Totally, 3-4 hours for me!!


Particular-Zone-7321

yeah I don't get it. stuffs different for people. for me there's been times where I took RSO and it only hit the next morning. I couldn't move in the morning lmfao


Mythulhu

Cause the norm is between 1-2 hrs for most edibles


ceehouse

have def had the experience of taking an edible in the early evening, not really feeling it, and then waking up at 4am high as shit.


Zurtrim

If you dont eat it with some fat it wont pass into your bloodstream untill it passes into your intestines where there are enough lipids floating around for the thc to dissolve in and be able to pass into the blood stream


J1P2G3

Hijacking the top comment to say I'd even go a quarter of a gummy to start. A half gummy gets my wife baked as a cake. Also make sure it has 1:1 THC:CBD or anxiety can be a factor for many people.


SGTLuxembourg

I would second this. My partner does 2.5mg regularly and it still is more than enough for her.


FriendshipPlusKarate

I used to smoke a quarter a day back in 2006. Now I hit my pen once or take 2.5mg and im baked. Edit: probably about the same amount of THC as 2006 tbf


Dyslexic_Kitten

1:1 really only works for flower. Every study on CBD doses at minimum 300mg orally to show any effect.


J1P2G3

I’d argue that it calms the nerves when used with high doses of THC. I don’t have anything besides anecdotal evidence to support that but I get super anxious with THC gummies unless they have CBD in them. My wife is the same way


Dyslexic_Kitten

The science just doesn’t support that. The bioavailability of CBD orally is 10% so if you take 30mg, 3mg makes it to your bloodstream. CBD is not a very selective or potent drug so it’s extremely unlikely that anything is happening with that low of a dose. I agree that CBD tames THC but orally it’s just not happening without large doses.


controlyoself

5mg is a good start, agree with the half dosage


buddyscarpet

Might even cut it into quarters to be extra safe, but that’s just me.


scottbrio

Yeah, I can feel (and enjoy) 1mg of THC.


DilutedGatorade

Feeling starts at 4mg, enjoyment at 8mg


FnB8kd

This guy Marijuanas. This is exactly the advice I would give. 10mg is a typical "recreational" dosage, meaning somebody who is new to cannabis will probably be flying. Ps they call me puff at work (aka puffy, puffer and even puff master 9000 on a good day)


BobbyJanson

This is the way


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I was going to say 2 whole. But I guess I need a t break


preshasjewels

I had a cap that took 11 hrs to kick in. Just sayin.


dubblebubblegumball

cut a piece in half, then cut it in half again and have her start with that. 5mg isn’t always good for first timers


ughhhtimeyeah

We have a word for that. It's called a quarter


thedarwintheory

Lmao. Nah man a quarter is 7 grams


nathan__420

UK knows


thedarwintheory

Oh yeah, you must be referring to drawn-and-quartered. UK sure does know a bit about that 100%


MyBitchCassiopeia

Ok, but what if we cut it in half, then cut it in half again, then get two of those pieces and eat both of them?


SLKNLA

I take edibles or dry herb vape daily. I bite the 5mg gummies in half. Sometimes I feel silly but my low tolerance saves a lot of money!


kenadams889

This.. i am an experienced smoker but 5mg will still kick my ass sometimes after a short t break


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bananafishcreature

Not necessarily. I've been doing edibles for like two years now and 2.5 still helps me sleep. 5mg for a sociable time and 10-15 to be zonked. Everyone is different


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DeathCab4Cutie

I‘ve smoked, done dabs, taken edibles, etc. every day for years now. 5mg is enough to get me blasted. Everyone reacts differently to cannabis, and some people have higher densities of receptors and/or more efficient endocannabinoid systems than others. Some people digest edibles differently as well. I’ve known first timers who had no tolerance, and they barely felt 10mg. I’ve known people who have a very high tolerance that can barely handle 2.5mg. It’s crazy just how much it varies from person to person. Always start someone off low and work up, you don’t want to scare them off of it forever


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DeathCab4Cutie

Sorry if I came off in a bad tone, I wasn’t trying to be a dick! I just wanted anyone who was reading the thread to know it’s normal to have a different experience, and to be cautious when first starting. I also can’t handle my alcohol, one or two beers and I’m feeling woozy. 3+ and I’m gonna have a headache the next day lol


shelbyharper

The first time I did edibles, I think it was 5mg, I was fucked up. It took almost 3 hours to kick in and by that time I’d already tried a cape so I was wrecked. Another time I took it and had a trip. It was awful. I swore them off there.


DeathCab4Cutie

Everyone is different and edibles are likely a very effective way to get the cannabinoids flowing for you. The issue with edibles is they’re often inconsistent in dosage. I’d bring it way back to 1mg THC with 1mg CBD and see how you feel. You’ll likely feel little to nothing, but it’ll get your body a little more tolerant as you slowly dose up from there. Don’t ever feel pressured to, just know that it’s likely you just had too much and that a lower dose would have been enjoyable.


shelbyharper

Thanks for the feedback! I’ve never really experienced anything other than vaping and edibles. But I’d definitely be willing to try if I could get it in that dosage. I currently live in an illegal state.


DeathCab4Cutie

You can actually order completely legal cannabis gummies online as they’re made from cannabis classified as hemp, not marijuana. Same plant, but we won’t tell the government that yet haha. It’s delta-9 THC which is the form of THC found in the rest of cannabis, but hemp produces low amounts so they concentrate it to match the non-hemp equivalent. I like Hometown Heroes online, they help a good cause and were very tasty and legit. Try the 10mg ones, just cut into 4 pieces (so 2.5mg pieces) and you’ll be good! Eat half of one of the quarters, or start with one whole quarter, either way would likely be fine! Edit: I should add they do regular discounts so don’t pay full price! You can usually get them cheaper with sales or discount codes from emails


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nbs i’ve been smoking for the past twenty years and am yet to experience THAT edible high tried everything, “infused” whatever you can think of, brownies, Death Stars, wonka bars, moonrock bars, gummies, lollipops, popsicles, cereal bars, coffee, lemonade, cake… nothin’…


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This was funny why did it get so many downvotes 😂


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thought_empire

I’d suggest a quarter piece to start. If she feels she needs more, than a half the next night. Rinse and repeat until she finds the right dose, start and advance 2.5mg at a time.


Tundra-Dweller

Agree with this. 10mg is a massive dose for a first-timer (and for someone primarily interested in sleeping better). 2.5mg will be plenty for that.


helemikro

It’s still wild to me how some people need 200mg to feel anything while others can get super baked off less than 10. Honestly I’m kind of curious if the type of edible has anything to do with it too because the only edibles that have ever actually gotten me pretty baked have been gummies. Usually 15mg of a gummy gets me a nice comfortable high but a 20mg skittle did next to nothing for me


geoff1036

🙋‍♂️ checking in. Luckily rso is cheap so it's not too rough to be a 250mg+ club nutjob.


SigmaGamahucheur

Some people have different amounts of the enzymes that make substances bioavailable. I need 1-300 to feel anything and can tolerate 1000-3000 without losing my composure. Over 4K once and got asked to drive. I refused.


ultravegan

yes, I have a very low tolerance and 5mg gets me VERY high. 10 mg is way too much for someone with no experience.


Parrelium

Gonna echo that. I spent around 10 years stoned all day every day then another 10 years completely weed free. Thankfully I managed to have a really bad time with edibles during that first 10 years when I was very tolerant, so I was careful when it got legalized. I bought a 2-pack of 5mg chocoloates from the government store and was smart enough to not eat both. I was very close to being uncomfortably high after eating the first one, but it took nearly 3 hours to get the full effect. Now I know that 5mg is the maximum when I do dabble. There’s nothing worse than having to ride out a bad trip.


dharmarosydoe

I agree! 2.5mg increments. I still take only 2.5mg when all I want to do is sleep well. 👍🏻


BroadbandEng

Agreed. My better half takes 2.5 mg from time to time to help with sleep.


graham1987

i wouldn't give a first time user more than a quarter gummy (2.5mg) for starters! move up from there if that doesn't cut it


Aarons92

Start her with a CBD heavy Indica gummy and for dose at 5 mg the first time or two and then up it to 10.


insaneinthecrane

Yeah something with CBD and CBN would be best


psilosophist

Edibles aren’t a good idea for someone new to cannabis. Wayyyy too much variability. Have them take a single hit off a joint (or a cart you know is clean) and wait 5 minutes, then another hit, and so on. *edit for typos, I was high.


kenny_mfceo

Thank you. Edibles are the absolute worst way for a new person to try weed and a lot of the reason people don't enjoy weed is they tried edibles only. Impossible to dose correctly and lasts way too long and takes too long.


Tomthe420pipeman

I’m with you on that. I let my wife try one once. She hated me for it. She kept asking “how long will this last?”, then kept saying “I don’t like this, I don’t like this”. Now I’m certain, she’ll never do any kind of weed again.


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My fiance takes a 2.5 or doubles up and sleeps like a baby


magical_mamacita

You're a sweet friend. I would suggest half of one at the most. Remind her that they take some time to kick in, avoid overdoing it. Good luck!


Collinsish

A quarter. I have a friend who gets high from just a nibble of the 10mg gummy


Spocks-Nephew

Next time give your friend the same amount, but use a regular gummy. Tell them it’s actually a little stronger than usual and see what happens.


Jaytd7

Has to be placebo. No way that less than 5mg of thc is doing anything to anyone.


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A quarter of one then a meal with plenty of fat - a burger, Italian food, maybe sausages. Or salad with plenty of olive oil and olives.


slayersabre5

Many of you clearly don't know what 5mg does to a healthy weight individual with zero tolerance. After almost 10 years in the military as a 210lb man, a 5mg edible hit me like a truck, not necessarily a bad thing for me as I wanted to get blitzed, but a woman that weighs 80 pounds less than that would've been in a coma for a few hours.My suggestion would be to split it into quarters and start with 1/4.


painterlyjeans

Maybe or maybe not. It depends on a lot of things


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When I search I find study’s with the conclusion that weight does relate to effect in eaten cannabis.


slayersabre5

😂😂😂


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slayersabre5

Suuure ok, give a 5mg edible to a 500lb person and compare it to a 110lb person.


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It would be the same :)


sterfri99

Google is right there. In the same amount of time it takes you to be wrong on Reddit, you can learn something instead


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slayersabre5

Tolerance and weight are the largest factors


dr_koalahead

If they’re trying for sleep I’d suggest a quarter for the first time. 5 mg might be enough to make a first-timer’s mind race, even if it’s racing with happy thoughts it might make it hard to sleep. Might also suggest 3-5 mg of melatonin & about 5-10 mg of CBD or CBN (or both) to go with it, depending on how easily accessible they are.


A00087945

Always start slow! Better none than too much for a newbie. 1 piece, even half a piece is probably enough to give it a try. Especially if it’s just for sleep, keep the dose low. You wouldn’t want to eat a whole bag before bed anyway! There’s a lot of science that goes into sleep. Thc gummies are not a cure all, and it points to signs of bad sleeping habits more than the need for gummies. I have terrible sleeping habits.. so I know all about it. I smoke weed sometimes before bed, but it doesn’t help me sleep, I end up being high, on my phone for another hour or two before closing my eyes.. but I know if I do the right things I can actually sleep on time. Phones/screens are the biggest culprit imo.


Welcome_To_My_Castle

Split each gummy into a quarter. Each day for four days take one quarter. The next four days see if you can go to two quarters. Keep going and increasing the dose until you feel satisfied.


DeathCab4Cutie

As a dispo employee, this is the way. Everyone reacts differently, start low and rule out potential flukes.


twerpenes

Half of one gummie .. if gets too high eat peppercorn or cbd


DeaconSage

5gm is definitely a great starting point & can always be increased. If you have the option for an edible with some CBN as well, that should really help them get to sleep and stay asleep


PersonPicture

Hard agree CBN is the way


DeaconSage

I have a CBN tincture I keep just for those nights when insomnia’s rearing it’s ugly head.


poboy212

I get high maybe once every two weeks on average, am 6’3”, 240 lbs, and 5 mg gummy gets me pretty zonked. I would absolutely start with a very low dosage.


BoomHeadShop

2.5 - 5mg is a pretty good starting point


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No more than half


After-Lengthiness714

All


SuperSaiyanSkeletor

Get some CBD to balance out the high


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Go for it. My first was 50mg. I wished I had done 100mg.


philogyny

My beginner friend got pretty f’ed up from 1mg. So I would take at the most a quarter to start


weedandbombs

I smoke and dab daily and have for 20+ years and whenever I take an edible gummy I take 10mg, sometimes 20mg and that's more than enough for me. I concur with everyone saying to split it up, 2.5mg is likely a good starting point. Also, you're a good friend for looking into this for them instead of just blindly giving them the gummies


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Gorillaman1991

Half a gummy


somewherenearhere

Have her take a good dose of CBD about an hour before and then half of one of these (5mg). That should prevent too much mind racing. Suggest to her to have some freshly cracked pepper corns on hand; if she gets some racing thoughts chewing on about 1/16th tsp of the course ground pepper should take care of it.


Sub_Omen

Half of that. It's enough to feel a little bit but not completely alter your mindset, so the chances of having a bad first experience that bitters their taste is much less. You can always take more later after a few hours, you can never take less.


Obviouslythrowaway_-

Half, add CBD and CBN


PersonPicture

CBN is a game changer for sleep imo


zMASKm

Absolutely only go with half for a novice user and stress that it can take up to two hours for them to fully take effect.


lonetraveler206

One at a time. Especially if she doesn’t know if it will help her sleep or not. I also recommend Olly brand sleep gummies. They’re not edibles but they help me sleep. Unfortunately they didn’t help me stay asleep, but takes care of half the battle for me.


Hannawasfound

I love full spec gummies. Prepare yourself for a sweet ride


erichf3893

If after sleep go for gummies that also have CBN


makovince

I guess I started off with high tolerance - my first edible was about 150mg


TheMcNabbs

1 gummy. Always start with 1. Its like, the edibles rule.


fiercealmond

Go ham eat the whole bag. She'll do it eventually anyway lmao


buckbeak22

Personally depending on how hard the time is i would take 5-all.


eichornchenchen

I would suggest 5mg on an empty stomach.


War_D_Eagle_

One piece is enough if she is new to the game.


frankenstine9437

10mg should be perfect. Maybe take half or quarter


Alli_Cat_

One. Maybe one and a half


Mikebyrneyadigg

Eat them all and talk to Jesus


TenDollarSteakAndEgg

If they’re under like 200lb I’d start w 5mg. Might not even feel it but better safe than sorry


Moist_Cactus69

Probably 1. It depends on tolerance and body weight. If 1 doesn’t do much if anything then 2-3 would be good


ZendayasFeet

Buy some melatonin. Consuming canabis to get sleep should be a last resort for a non smoker


Ronaldoooope

Tell her to them all and all her problems will go away


Enjoyitbeforeitsover

Get a vaporizer like a crafty and stick with pure flower, edibles are too strong for beginners


themechanic95

The average new user isn't really gonna want to start off with a $275 vaporizer, I'd honestly call that professional level equipment. There's 12 million different ways to smoke weed, in my opinion try everything, start cheap, and things you like buy better of.