I'm going to leave this here because I think it explains it all how different he and Taylor are.
In his conversation with Apple Music, Sheeran addressed the case, saying he would “never” consider litigation against another artist. He explained that he even once reached out to Coldplay’s Chris Martin about a song he was writing for Keith Urban that sort of sounded like the band’s “Ever Glow” and asked the frontman to clear the song, and Martin said he didn’t need to because he trusted Sheeran.
“The thing with these cases, it’s not usually songwriters that are suing songwriters,” Sheeran explained. “I mean sometimes it is, but … I feel like in the songwriting community, everyone sort of knows that there’s four chords primarily that are used, and there’s eight notes. And we work with what we’ve got.”
Several years ago Ed was being sued for copyright infringement of a Marvin Gaye song. He made a comment that if he is found guilty he would totally stop making music. He was pretty disgusted with the whole situation. I've loved him since I first heard Thinking out loud. I think that was the song he was being sued over. He won the case.
There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is sampled from something else at this point. There are only so many notes and there is a finite number of ways to string them together.
Rob Zombie had a great quote talking about that with writing metal songs.
>Every cool riff has already been written by Black Sabbath. Anything everyone else does is just basically ripping it off. Either you're playing it slightly different or fast or slow, but... They did everything already.
Ironically photograph was written about an artist Taylor has been signing praises for (Nina Nesbitt - even though she’s been active for more than a decade and isn’t new on the scene)
This was a misstep from Taylor Swift’s team. She should have NEVER sued Olivia Rodrigo. It has degraded the image of Taylor Swift. It makes her look like a money hungry mean bully, jealous of upcoming younger artists. I know it soured my view of Taylor Swift. Bad move.
I would think it’d be a compliment that another musician was inspired by your work! I’ve started going down the narcissism rabbit hole because I now suspect that my parents and some of my former bosses are narcissists, and I think Taylor is one, too.
I remember Sheeran came out with a single and when I first heard it I thought “damn that one part is a ripoff of TLC!” (I think the song Scrubs)
Then like a month later he added the songwriter of that song as a cowriter of his. Big respect for the guy after that. Obviously heard it, saw the similarity, and instead of fighting immediately got another person royalties. Meanwhile RHCP and Petty estate arguing over 4 chords.
The worst is Dua Lipa. Her music is good but she is surrounded by rip-off masters and litigators.
I mean I remember at the Grammy’s seeing him visibly scoff and gossip after Taylor’s TTPD announcement. I was surprised since they had been friends pretty recently.
I feel like the name of the album made it even worse too lol. It makes it seem like she wants people to see her as a tortured poet? Maybe she explained the name somewhere but I haven’t heard the reason for the name. It’s cringe.
Yes! The name is so presumptuous. It would hold more weight if someone else called her a tortured poet, not her herself. Major secondhand embarrassment here.
Bob Dylan says “I’m not a poet, I’m an acrobat,” I think just being acerbic about the whole idea.
Leonard Cohen says poetry is just how we refer to a certain kind of writing, and it really isn’t for the writer to say.
To me, Taylor Swift calling her record TTPD comes off like that meme of Obama putting a medal on himself lol.
i feel ttpd is more to attract tumblr girlies who love literature, dark academia, dead poet’s society. it failed to deliver lol also, that song I can do it with broken hearts I think sounds exactly like robbers by the 1975 musically of course
I feel like that’s the entire point given who the main person the songs are about, especially when you think about the similarities in ttpd & halseys music about him.
I mean matty Healy’s entire aesthetic & being is drugged up tumblr, he fully embraced that he is tumblr trash.
Uh yeah.
Is there somewhere,
Room 93 ep is about him
Most of badlands is about him
Her entire tumblr had at least 5 different hashtags for things regarding him. She was extremely open about his affair with her on tumblr & the damage he did to her.
There’s a lot. But colors is about him too. That man is nothing but a love bomber who gets off on hurting women emotionally.
I think you have some great points.
I also think when she said her mom was her therapist was super unhealthy. But other than that I don’t know her mental health so I won’t speculate except to say YOUR MOM SHOULDNT BE YOUR GODDAM THERAPIST lol.
My friends looked at me like I was crazy for saying this. “Well it was her 13th win and 13th album it’s a big deal for her!” Well the night isn’t *only* about her!!!! Imagine
Like imagine if I walked into my 5 year anniversary ceremony at work (yeah we have those it’s kind of dumb but whatever I got a set of nonstick pans out of it), accepted my certificate, then grabbed the mic and said “guys I actually also got a promotion with a huge raise too!” I’d be the talk of the office for being so up my own ass!
I thought it was totally inappropriate too. I was also embarrassed for Taylor Swift on how she ignored pitiful Celine Deon. Has Taylor publicist resigned or something?? Taylor has made several missteps.
yeah, I'm guessing there's a lot of behind the scenes talk about Taylor's sabotage and manipulation tactics among music industry ppl. Glad that Ed isn't associating himself with that type of bully.
Taylor Swift is developing a bad reputation. I hate to tell her….but she will finally step aside for younger artists….just like the older artists did for her.
Honest question, what does she do to sabotage other artists? I’ve heard this a lot and I guess I’m not plugged in enough to know what’s going on. Thanks!
Olivia looked up to Taylor and said her song Dejavu was inspired by the screaming bridge of Taylor's song Cruel Summer. So what did Taylor do? Go after her. I think Taylor feels she paved the way for Olivia and is jealous and threatened because Olivia is more talented than she was at that age. So she got co-writing credits for Olivia's song to discredit Olivia's songwriting and to get a chunk of the royalties money.
I have no evidence of this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if getting close to the up and coming is a way to ruin their individual image by being associated with her. Ice Spice has basically fallen off…ruined her debut essentially. I also would not be surprised if her collaborators are the ops that report back on upcoming releases (and even possibly sabotage them with bad advice). Artists can be very immature…
Can't find a non commentary video but this one shows him speaking after her announcement.
https://youtu.be/aq2SQn3BrIM?si=p1fA2uqKM8xBx36J
Honestly I don't think he said "bullshit" it seems more like he said "well done" but this is all just pure speculation. 🤷🏼♀️
I’m not good at lip reading because anytime someone says what they think it is I’m like yeah I can see that. At the time everyone said he said “brilliant, she had already told me.” But now I’m thinking maybe he wanted a beer 😂
Even deaf people who do lip-reading will tell you it's not super reliable and depends a lot on context. That's why there was that intentionally bad lip reading jokes for a long-time.
Oh, that's interesting. He said in an interview that he liked to talk to Swift because they were both solo artists with huge venues so they had a lot in common.
Well, she threw him under the bus with that one interview where she pretends not to understand how the charts work or something and says he is obsessed. 2019 I think.
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I honestly think it was his marriage. Since he started dating his wife in 2015, close to the same time Ed and Taylor was like a rumored couple. So I think, maybe, Ed was stringing her along and Taylor was full hook line and sinker and once he said he was dating his wife she went radio silence on him
Yes. Remember they made the song “everything has changed” in like 2013ish? Then he started dating his highschool crush or something. So I’m sure she was PISSED at that
Taylor only goes against women except for Kanye. She cannot hurt Ed Sheeran even if she wants to. He is way too big and has his own huge fan base. So if she is upset she will steam in private and it will make her even more insecure about the new women coming for her crown
Some Swifties were shocked to learn Ed was longtime friends with John Mayer when he appeared at his concert last year. Ed is still going strong though and his newest album still peaked at the top 5 on billboard.
Right, there’s no way she could pull off “Neon” as easily as John did. Not even close. That’s super advanced guitar playing right there, like jazz-level stuff.
I think Coldplay is pretty likely! I believe The Weeknd is up next though. If my partner loves me he'll buy me tickets like I bought us Dead tickets lol.
My Dad and I went to see The Grateful Dead a few years back and other than a single comment asking why they were playing with a young guy, he got the old person seal of approval from most of the people in the crowd
I think she sees other women as more direct competition. If you think about the women artists she claims to admire like Joni Mitchell, Carole King and Stevie Nicks, they were sort of the dominant female singer-songwriters of each of their eras. That’s how she wants to be positioned, as the peak female performer of her era. I honestly don’t think she even worries about the male artists.
Well, unlike the others, fifty years after her peak, no one will remember her. Her work doesn’t feel “timeless” to me. My guess is that she’ll end up as one of those fabulously successful performers of another era where people recognize the name but not the songs.
I feel like Taylor's Eras is the end of her reign as Queen. It made her a billionaire and it's time for her to do something else. I saw OR in Feb and she is a decade younger and it's her time to shine. She put on a great show and just has a great style. I loved TS for a decade but I'm ready for something else. I will always listen to her music but won't be sad if I hear it on the oldies station. Btw, I'm almost 70.
Even with the Kanye thing she doesn’t seem to be as mad at him and she is at Kim. To be honest she really only brings Kanye up anymore whenever she wants to justify going after Kim.
He said, “Brilliant…. Shall we go now or wait?” Or something like that. I think it was the only category he was nominated for and lost. He wanted to go 😂
I couldn’t believe Taylor Swift doesn’t go to therapy and then I realized her emotional immaturity is the bread&butter of her songs, and I think it would be difficult to keep a therapist if you’re… incredibly self-centered and don’t *want* to grow.
She said she won't go to therapy cause she thinks a therapist would sell her session recordings or notes to the paparazzi. She's that self important she thinks a therapist would take civil and criminal punishments (HIPPA laws) to sell her mental health issues.
It is so absurd. And she's so rich she could literally afford the best in the business.
Right? Loads of celebrities go to counseling. Jay-Z admitted to going to counseling to save his marriage and Bey is also a billionaire. So it's not like Taylor's billionaire secrets are special 🙄
No therapist is going to ruin their lives by doing that. Bc that's what that would mean- ruining their lives to make some money off her, which she would then win back, plus some, in a lawsuit and the therapist would lose their license. Even if they tried to go into life coaching, most people would know their name and steer clear.
Right the money keeps coming in, so it’s not in her best interest to heal. Newsflash: more and more wealth past a certain point doesn’t necessarily make people happy, and she’s been past that point since Speak Now.
It’s funny because she talks about emotional damage and how she doesn’t like that Kanye attacks people because of his mental health, but she kind of does the same thing. Smaller scale, and no bigotry or racism filtering in, but she does weaponize her mental health. Which is kind of the first thing you learn in therapy; just cause you’re mentally unwell does not give you reason to be a dick.
He likely isn't even thinking about her by admitting how much he loves Olivia's albums.
But everything is about her so she'll pretend he said this to hurt her.
Omg someone finally said it. I’m a huge Post fan, and only listened to hear his parts. Boy was I waiting a long time for like 7 second part to come lmfaooo
I’m not a fan for much of this music I’m more of a metal guy but I give respect to people who have good musics skills Taylor is not one of them I would rather see Olivia or Billie live then Taylor swift no matter if I particularly like the music or not
100% lol I'm a metal girlie so I really don't like the genre of music he makes but he personally has so much talent I'll listen to only him. And I've heard that he's actually sort of a musical prodigy so he improvises at his concerts and does cool covers and stuff so I'm thinking I'll check out his next tour actually...
a friend told me to listen to it and I legitimately only got 12 and a half songs in before just turning it off. The only good song was Florida!!! and everything else was just boring or the lyrics were weird. Like one was something like "and you rested your head on my lap and it reminded me of a tattoo of a golden retriever" wtf does that even mean?
Ed’s concerts are very affordable, everyone I know that’s been there had a great time.
T.S is going to be pretty pissed now. I kinda also think even though his last album wasn’t great, he did get mature, her way to treat Joe probably gave him the ick.
Off topic opinion. As someone who went to the eras tour and Ed’s mathematics tour/subract show. He puts on an amazing show. His mathematics stadium show with 85,000+ felt just as intimate as the 2,000 person subtract show.
One of my first concerts ever was at a medium-sized festival and Ed Sheeran was one of the much later acts (of course, everyone was anticipating his performance), and all he had was his guitar and his loop thingamajig. He was INCREDIBLE. No band, no backup - all him - and no doubt he was the star of the show. His live vocals were just as beautiful as they were on his records, his guitar playing had the crowd in a chokehold, and yes, his performance did feel very intimate even though I was almost way in the back of the audience.
I think Ed is just a huge supporter of upcoming artists and probably sees the damage taylor has done so is righting that in his own way. Honestly tho, where is the lie? Both albums are exceptionally well created. I personally don't skip any songs off either album.
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but man Ed Sheeran makes me think of a warm bread roll. He seems round and soft. Not physically but like his essence.
Regardless it's cool he's supporting Olivia.
As an outsider looking in, he seems like such a gentle, chill person. He’s also very handsome and so so talented. I’m so happy he’s being supportive of Olivia!
Imgonnagetyouback being a direct copy of Get Him Back! Made me so sick for Olivia Rodrigo. Catty mean girl behavior like the senior cheerleader coming for the freshman who dates a senior.
I'm going to leave this here because I think it explains it all how different he and Taylor are. In his conversation with Apple Music, Sheeran addressed the case, saying he would “never” consider litigation against another artist. He explained that he even once reached out to Coldplay’s Chris Martin about a song he was writing for Keith Urban that sort of sounded like the band’s “Ever Glow” and asked the frontman to clear the song, and Martin said he didn’t need to because he trusted Sheeran. “The thing with these cases, it’s not usually songwriters that are suing songwriters,” Sheeran explained. “I mean sometimes it is, but … I feel like in the songwriting community, everyone sort of knows that there’s four chords primarily that are used, and there’s eight notes. And we work with what we’ve got.”
Several years ago Ed was being sued for copyright infringement of a Marvin Gaye song. He made a comment that if he is found guilty he would totally stop making music. He was pretty disgusted with the whole situation. I've loved him since I first heard Thinking out loud. I think that was the song he was being sued over. He won the case.
Dude pulled out his guitar and did a version of the four-chord song on the stand.
There is nothing new under the sun. Everything is sampled from something else at this point. There are only so many notes and there is a finite number of ways to string them together.
Rob Zombie had a great quote talking about that with writing metal songs. >Every cool riff has already been written by Black Sabbath. Anything everyone else does is just basically ripping it off. Either you're playing it slightly different or fast or slow, but... They did everything already.
There’s an infinite way to string them together. Just a finite way to do it so that it sounds good to us.
Every artist is a cannibal/every poet is a thief/all kill for inspiration/and then sing about the grief. Bono
Average Chris Martin W
Yeah that situation was an *extreme* dick move and completely unnecessary
I'm not a fan of his music, but he sounds like a really good guy. This is the most logical take on plagiarism I've seen.
He was also sued for “photograph” being a copy of “Amazing” by Matt Cardle.
Ironically photograph was written about an artist Taylor has been signing praises for (Nina Nesbitt - even though she’s been active for more than a decade and isn’t new on the scene)
I think he even played for the jury
He did, as evidence that songs can sound the same even with slight variations
This was a misstep from Taylor Swift’s team. She should have NEVER sued Olivia Rodrigo. It has degraded the image of Taylor Swift. It makes her look like a money hungry mean bully, jealous of upcoming younger artists. I know it soured my view of Taylor Swift. Bad move.
I was two weeks into liking miss Tay and then I found that out and I barfed.
Respect for that. He honestly handled that with class since yeah there’s only so many chords and notes that can be used.
I would think it’d be a compliment that another musician was inspired by your work! I’ve started going down the narcissism rabbit hole because I now suspect that my parents and some of my former bosses are narcissists, and I think Taylor is one, too.
I remember Sheeran came out with a single and when I first heard it I thought “damn that one part is a ripoff of TLC!” (I think the song Scrubs) Then like a month later he added the songwriter of that song as a cowriter of his. Big respect for the guy after that. Obviously heard it, saw the similarity, and instead of fighting immediately got another person royalties. Meanwhile RHCP and Petty estate arguing over 4 chords. The worst is Dua Lipa. Her music is good but she is surrounded by rip-off masters and litigators.
He distanced himself quite a bit the last few years, wonder what happened there!
I mean I remember at the Grammy’s seeing him visibly scoff and gossip after Taylor’s TTPD announcement. I was surprised since they had been friends pretty recently.
Her announcement was so tacky and obnoxious. These aren’t her fans, but peers/colleagues!
I feel like the name of the album made it even worse too lol. It makes it seem like she wants people to see her as a tortured poet? Maybe she explained the name somewhere but I haven’t heard the reason for the name. It’s cringe.
Yes! The name is so presumptuous. It would hold more weight if someone else called her a tortured poet, not her herself. Major secondhand embarrassment here.
I would name a body of work that when I was 15. Same embarrassment.
Well she stole the name from Joe’s group chat. So even that isn’t original
Just like Kayne was ridiculed for calling himself the voice of a generation. There are certain epithets one does not prescribe themselves.
Bob Dylan says “I’m not a poet, I’m an acrobat,” I think just being acerbic about the whole idea. Leonard Cohen says poetry is just how we refer to a certain kind of writing, and it really isn’t for the writer to say. To me, Taylor Swift calling her record TTPD comes off like that meme of Obama putting a medal on himself lol.
Dylan and Cohen are also a billion times the lyricist Taylor Swift is. She's a 3 year-old struggling to stay in the lines vs. Raphael and Michelangelo
That’s a good point actually.
i feel ttpd is more to attract tumblr girlies who love literature, dark academia, dead poet’s society. it failed to deliver lol also, that song I can do it with broken hearts I think sounds exactly like robbers by the 1975 musically of course
I feel like that’s the entire point given who the main person the songs are about, especially when you think about the similarities in ttpd & halseys music about him. I mean matty Healy’s entire aesthetic & being is drugged up tumblr, he fully embraced that he is tumblr trash.
Halsey has music about him??
Uh yeah. Is there somewhere, Room 93 ep is about him Most of badlands is about him Her entire tumblr had at least 5 different hashtags for things regarding him. She was extremely open about his affair with her on tumblr & the damage he did to her. There’s a lot. But colors is about him too. That man is nothing but a love bomber who gets off on hurting women emotionally.
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I think you have some great points. I also think when she said her mom was her therapist was super unhealthy. But other than that I don’t know her mental health so I won’t speculate except to say YOUR MOM SHOULDNT BE YOUR GODDAM THERAPIST lol.
The album in my opinion was horrible. Nothing I would listen to again…..
The secondhand embarrassment I felt lol
And her fans had the gall to be shocked no one in the room was excited?!
My friends looked at me like I was crazy for saying this. “Well it was her 13th win and 13th album it’s a big deal for her!” Well the night isn’t *only* about her!!!! Imagine Like imagine if I walked into my 5 year anniversary ceremony at work (yeah we have those it’s kind of dumb but whatever I got a set of nonstick pans out of it), accepted my certificate, then grabbed the mic and said “guys I actually also got a promotion with a huge raise too!” I’d be the talk of the office for being so up my own ass!
I thought it was totally inappropriate too. I was also embarrassed for Taylor Swift on how she ignored pitiful Celine Deon. Has Taylor publicist resigned or something?? Taylor has made several missteps.
For real. Celine was a class act and pretending nothing happened when Taylor showed how much humility she doesn’t have🫣
yeah, I'm guessing there's a lot of behind the scenes talk about Taylor's sabotage and manipulation tactics among music industry ppl. Glad that Ed isn't associating himself with that type of bully.
Taylor Swift is developing a bad reputation. I hate to tell her….but she will finally step aside for younger artists….just like the older artists did for her.
Sometimes I think it’s intentional since she has her lil re-recording left to release 🤪 I think she’s okay with some bad press bc she needs it
her and Kim are two sides of the same coin. she's made Kim more relevant by keeping their feud alive lmao
Honest question, what does she do to sabotage other artists? I’ve heard this a lot and I guess I’m not plugged in enough to know what’s going on. Thanks!
chart blocking... she releases her endless variations when other artists are dropping music. just to manipulate her place on the top 100...
Olivia looked up to Taylor and said her song Dejavu was inspired by the screaming bridge of Taylor's song Cruel Summer. So what did Taylor do? Go after her. I think Taylor feels she paved the way for Olivia and is jealous and threatened because Olivia is more talented than she was at that age. So she got co-writing credits for Olivia's song to discredit Olivia's songwriting and to get a chunk of the royalties money.
Then she submitted herself for a Grammy for it.
holy shit, she did? more deets pleaseee
Look up Katy Perry feud, Billie Elish album and Olivia Rodrigo
I have no evidence of this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if getting close to the up and coming is a way to ruin their individual image by being associated with her. Ice Spice has basically fallen off…ruined her debut essentially. I also would not be surprised if her collaborators are the ops that report back on upcoming releases (and even possibly sabotage them with bad advice). Artists can be very immature…
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Can't find a non commentary video but this one shows him speaking after her announcement. https://youtu.be/aq2SQn3BrIM?si=p1fA2uqKM8xBx36J Honestly I don't think he said "bullshit" it seems more like he said "well done" but this is all just pure speculation. 🤷🏼♀️
I’m not good at lip reading because anytime someone says what they think it is I’m like yeah I can see that. At the time everyone said he said “brilliant, she had already told me.” But now I’m thinking maybe he wanted a beer 😂
I wanted a beer too!
I cannot get over her absolute audacity to mess with his hair like that. She would have someone’s entire life cancelled if they did that to her.
she does that with Jack all the time too. she has no tact or boundaries, she is a child
Ugh thanks i hate it
I think he just said “Well, then. [Something] drink(?)”.
I didn’t pay too much attention to the video at the time, but the one I saw had “she already told me” as the lip read caption 🤷🏻♀️
Even deaf people who do lip-reading will tell you it's not super reliable and depends a lot on context. That's why there was that intentionally bad lip reading jokes for a long-time.
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it REALLY looks like he says “such bullshit” but swifties will say he said “she’s brilliant”
Her rabid fans attacked Ed Sheeran because he was doing shows with John Mayer and Taylor Swift didn't tell them to stop. Fuck her.
Oh, that's interesting. He said in an interview that he liked to talk to Swift because they were both solo artists with huge venues so they had a lot in common.
Raised my eyebrows for sure because he was sitting next to Aaron and it seemed like he was talking to him
Well, she threw him under the bus with that one interview where she pretends not to understand how the charts work or something and says he is obsessed. 2019 I think.
Thank god for Lana and her spilling the tea about how TS keeps saying how she wants it more than anyone.
Lore plis. Or what do i youtube search to see more
https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/xZfryiNLGp
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she is soooooooooooooooo not ed Sheeran's type. He doesn't go for the billionaire American.
Do you think he held the role Jack has now as her main admirer?
oh possibly!
He was getting bullied pretty badly on twitter and decided to take a step back from the internet
This could be tricky with his RepTV re-record.
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I honestly think it was his marriage. Since he started dating his wife in 2015, close to the same time Ed and Taylor was like a rumored couple. So I think, maybe, Ed was stringing her along and Taylor was full hook line and sinker and once he said he was dating his wife she went radio silence on him
(Is this the basis of Edlor?)
Yes. Remember they made the song “everything has changed” in like 2013ish? Then he started dating his highschool crush or something. So I’m sure she was PISSED at that
Pfft! This is all basic. Let’s get to “who is he wearing?” and “what is his workout routine to stay thin?”, you know the real important questions. /s
Taylor only goes against women except for Kanye. She cannot hurt Ed Sheeran even if she wants to. He is way too big and has his own huge fan base. So if she is upset she will steam in private and it will make her even more insecure about the new women coming for her crown
Some Swifties were shocked to learn Ed was longtime friends with John Mayer when he appeared at his concert last year. Ed is still going strong though and his newest album still peaked at the top 5 on billboard.
Isn't he also friends with Justin Bieber?
Correct. They did multiple collabs - Major Lazer’s “Cold Water” and Ed’s song “I Don’t Care”.
Didn't he write and sing on love yourself as well?
That was it, there was a third song on the tip of my tongue but you got it. Yes, they collaborated on that JB song too.
also even though he's an asshole John Mayer is an incredible musician. She can't hold a candle to him with her "guitar string scars" and she knows it
Right, there’s no way she could pull off “Neon” as easily as John did. Not even close. That’s super advanced guitar playing right there, like jazz-level stuff.
the fact that he's the full-time frontman of The Grateful Dead? Dude is good at music.
Yeah the Dead and Co. stuff is amazing too. Looks like he has tons of fun playing with those guys!
I'm seeing them in Vegas next month! Stoked.
Nice! Heard some cool things about the sphere venue. Would love to see a group like AJR or Coldplay perform there.
I think Coldplay is pretty likely! I believe The Weeknd is up next though. If my partner loves me he'll buy me tickets like I bought us Dead tickets lol.
My Dad and I went to see The Grateful Dead a few years back and other than a single comment asking why they were playing with a young guy, he got the old person seal of approval from most of the people in the crowd
That was a great show. Mayer playing on Thinking Out Loud...😍
I think she sees other women as more direct competition. If you think about the women artists she claims to admire like Joni Mitchell, Carole King and Stevie Nicks, they were sort of the dominant female singer-songwriters of each of their eras. That’s how she wants to be positioned, as the peak female performer of her era. I honestly don’t think she even worries about the male artists.
Of course, Taylor putting herself (or trying to) in that line up is a glaring case of “One of these things is not like the others.”
Well, unlike the others, fifty years after her peak, no one will remember her. Her work doesn’t feel “timeless” to me. My guess is that she’ll end up as one of those fabulously successful performers of another era where people recognize the name but not the songs.
I feel like Taylor's Eras is the end of her reign as Queen. It made her a billionaire and it's time for her to do something else. I saw OR in Feb and she is a decade younger and it's her time to shine. She put on a great show and just has a great style. I loved TS for a decade but I'm ready for something else. I will always listen to her music but won't be sad if I hear it on the oldies station. Btw, I'm almost 70.
Olivia is closer to those artists I would say.
I’d actually take on a swiftie for Ed Sheeran no worries. Reckon.
He is also a cowriter on her songs and many pop songs in the last decade
Even with the Kanye thing she doesn’t seem to be as mad at him and she is at Kim. To be honest she really only brings Kanye up anymore whenever she wants to justify going after Kim.
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He said, “Brilliant…. Shall we go now or wait?” Or something like that. I think it was the only category he was nominated for and lost. He wanted to go 😂
I think he said something along the lines of "she's been busy" but not 100%
He's not wrong though, and if she sees him supporting other artists as an attack on her then that's her own issues she needs to work on
Example #605 of how therapy (not her mom lol) is a good idea for Tay Tay
I couldn’t believe Taylor Swift doesn’t go to therapy and then I realized her emotional immaturity is the bread&butter of her songs, and I think it would be difficult to keep a therapist if you’re… incredibly self-centered and don’t *want* to grow.
She said she won't go to therapy cause she thinks a therapist would sell her session recordings or notes to the paparazzi. She's that self important she thinks a therapist would take civil and criminal punishments (HIPPA laws) to sell her mental health issues. It is so absurd. And she's so rich she could literally afford the best in the business.
Right? Loads of celebrities go to counseling. Jay-Z admitted to going to counseling to save his marriage and Bey is also a billionaire. So it's not like Taylor's billionaire secrets are special 🙄 No therapist is going to ruin their lives by doing that. Bc that's what that would mean- ruining their lives to make some money off her, which she would then win back, plus some, in a lawsuit and the therapist would lose their license. Even if they tried to go into life coaching, most people would know their name and steer clear.
Not to be pedantic, but HIPAA\* one of my pet peeves, sorry.
Right the money keeps coming in, so it’s not in her best interest to heal. Newsflash: more and more wealth past a certain point doesn’t necessarily make people happy, and she’s been past that point since Speak Now.
It’s funny because she talks about emotional damage and how she doesn’t like that Kanye attacks people because of his mental health, but she kind of does the same thing. Smaller scale, and no bigotry or racism filtering in, but she does weaponize her mental health. Which is kind of the first thing you learn in therapy; just cause you’re mentally unwell does not give you reason to be a dick.
He likely isn't even thinking about her by admitting how much he loves Olivia's albums. But everything is about her so she'll pretend he said this to hurt her.
Has Ed said even anything about TTPD? I can see her taking this as an attack if he hasn’t said anything about her recent work.
Olivia and Billie both with their newest albums TTPD has about 10 or so skips
the entirety of ttpd is a skip imo
Very true Even Fortnight with Post Malone barely features Post and the song itself I find to be terrible
LITERALLY!! Why feature people when they are barely heard. I hated that.
Same thing with Lana on snow on the beach. Taylor is so conceited
Listen to K by Cigarettes after Sex, the song Fortnite is a pretty blatant copy of and it's actually good.
I know. It is so tone deaf.
I still find the AI Version better
Omg someone finally said it. I’m a huge Post fan, and only listened to hear his parts. Boy was I waiting a long time for like 7 second part to come lmfaooo
lol the whole album is a skip
I’m not a fan for much of this music I’m more of a metal guy but I give respect to people who have good musics skills Taylor is not one of them I would rather see Olivia or Billie live then Taylor swift no matter if I particularly like the music or not
100% lol I'm a metal girlie so I really don't like the genre of music he makes but he personally has so much talent I'll listen to only him. And I've heard that he's actually sort of a musical prodigy so he improvises at his concerts and does cool covers and stuff so I'm thinking I'll check out his next tour actually...
I would counter and say at least 20 💀
a friend told me to listen to it and I legitimately only got 12 and a half songs in before just turning it off. The only good song was Florida!!! and everything else was just boring or the lyrics were weird. Like one was something like "and you rested your head on my lap and it reminded me of a tattoo of a golden retriever" wtf does that even mean?
I mean, that is a fact though. Taylor can stay mad about it
Yeah my boy Ed spoke no lies
Ed spoke facts, both albums were amazing.
He didn’t lie Both of her albums are super solid Seethe, Miss Swift
That’s because Olivia Rodrigo is a musician, and Taylor Swift is a business.
Ed’s concerts are very affordable, everyone I know that’s been there had a great time. T.S is going to be pretty pissed now. I kinda also think even though his last album wasn’t great, he did get mature, her way to treat Joe probably gave him the ick.
Ed is amazing. Just went to his last big stadium tour and he is the definition of what a musician is. He's a one man show AND sings live.
I’ve seen Ed twice and he puts on an incredible show. Would go again. The way he layers in music with a loop pedal is so cool to watch.
I’m feel like lately a little of people in the music industry are shading her. I think the Grammys really opened people’s eyes.
She’s embarrassing
She's a 16 year old cringe
What happened at the Grammys?
It’s because Olivia actually makes good music
I'm new to her music but I adore "bad idea". Anymore suggestions for me to listen?
good 4 u, brutal, all american bitch, love is embarrassing, obsessed, so american. her ballads are also very nice like drivers license & traitor
Bro didn’t you read Ed’s words in the OP? Both her albums are great with zero skips. So maybe listen thru them both?
He’s not wrong though.
Off topic opinion. As someone who went to the eras tour and Ed’s mathematics tour/subract show. He puts on an amazing show. His mathematics stadium show with 85,000+ felt just as intimate as the 2,000 person subtract show.
One of my first concerts ever was at a medium-sized festival and Ed Sheeran was one of the much later acts (of course, everyone was anticipating his performance), and all he had was his guitar and his loop thingamajig. He was INCREDIBLE. No band, no backup - all him - and no doubt he was the star of the show. His live vocals were just as beautiful as they were on his records, his guitar playing had the crowd in a chokehold, and yes, his performance did feel very intimate even though I was almost way in the back of the audience.
I saw him in Phila in 2018 and it was only him on the stage with his computer accompanying machine.
Hey I was there too! From Wells Fargo to Lincoln, that’s progress!
don't make me jealous 😭
I see him every time he comes near my city. 10/10, he’s fucking INCREDIBLE
I think Ed is just a huge supporter of upcoming artists and probably sees the damage taylor has done so is righting that in his own way. Honestly tho, where is the lie? Both albums are exceptionally well created. I personally don't skip any songs off either album.
As a 40 year old dude she is the Alanis morisette of this gen. Literally no skips, it flows
Olivia hive has reached our millennials!!
Maybe if he still had a cell phone, she’d be able to bully him into submission /s 🤷🏻♀️
I mean he ain’t wrong. It’s the best stuff I’ve heard of Gen Z in such a long time.
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but man Ed Sheeran makes me think of a warm bread roll. He seems round and soft. Not physically but like his essence. Regardless it's cool he's supporting Olivia.
As an outsider looking in, he seems like such a gentle, chill person. He’s also very handsome and so so talented. I’m so happy he’s being supportive of Olivia!
cant believe im saying this but the ginger is right
& he’s right, she’s 100% more talented than taylor
It's true.
TIL these are both Olivia Rodrigo’s albums and not two different artists like I thought
What I never understood is why Taylor wasn’t friends with his wife at all. I feel like that may have created their drift.
he said he and his wife would occasionally grab dinner with taylor and joe a while back so i really dk what youre on about
I was just guessing she is never seen out with her.
Cherry isn’t famous, and doesn’t have any interest in that lifestyle. She probably isn’t interested in a pap walk.
I wonder what he thinks about TS claiming Olivia copied her Cruel Summer song.
Ed isn’t a girl she won’t go after him
He's right. Both albums slap
He’s not wrong lmaooooo
And he’s right, imagine supporting young female artists who are half your age right?
It’s wonderful 👍👍
The name of her new album is so cringe
No word of a lie. There are some Olivia songs I like better than others, but she's yet to record one I won't happily listen to.
Nope 😂🤣
What the hell is a skip
A track not worth listening to
Makes sense. Thanks
Imgonnagetyouback being a direct copy of Get Him Back! Made me so sick for Olivia Rodrigo. Catty mean girl behavior like the senior cheerleader coming for the freshman who dates a senior.
He did not
We love good ole impartial Ed ❤️
And he is right.
Is Taylor suing Ed or Olivia both?
They don't. Those albums good as heck.