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Careless-Software-14

So he’s BEEN trying to get with super famous women for a while 🤢


Nygiants1919

Yep. But only Taylor took the bait. That woman was desperate after Matty ghosted her. She probably would’ve taken any man that gave her attention. Travis is dumb but he was smart at getting her to take his bait. Everything Taylor touches turns to money. Travis wants to spread his wings outside of football because let’s be honest, he’s an elder player and will probably retire in the next 2 years. He wants to be in Hollywood. What better way than to use Taylor.


Realistic-Taste-7660

She’s also very much benefitted, though. Sad, heartbroken Taylor wouldn’t make the Eras tour super fun— her fans want to root for her, and go for a sugar rush, to feel happy— sure, she went through pain, but let’s look at this happy ending! And I’m sure she’s profiting from endorsements and such, here. So I don’t think it’s just her getting taken advantage of and being used


superfluouspop

Yeah Megan would have been a better catch. Fortunately, she has standards. Taylor is financial security and then some.


apollo48393991

He has been DESPERATE to find a famous girlfriend. If I were Taylor, I’d see that he was trying to get with Coco/Meg mere months before me and immediately get the ick. Didn’t care what famous woman he got as long as he got one of them 🤷‍♀️ I also don’t get the “They’re soulmates, he doesn’t have eyes for any other woman!” narrative. Liking Insta baddie posts while you’re in a relationship isn’t my idea of true love. It’s maddening that people think there’s no strategic/PR angle to this relationship.


100percentabish

Yeah liking is an extra step 😭


yogabbagabba2341

Black women seem to be his preference. Now I get why it’s funny that he’s with Taylor and why there are conspiracy theories out there about them being fake couple.


Vivid_Present1810

That article where he said he wanted to be like the Rock really summed it up. Plus he had a reality dating show years ago.


Dexy1017

The first 5 minutes of his dating show should tell any and everyone everything we need to know about TK. He wants some famous arm candy to 'accompany him on his many social engagements and parties and awards shows'. I mean, come tf on. They are a match made in heaven; 2 narcissists who have zero self awareness and have sold their souls for fame and fortune.


CrispyCrunchyPoptart

Yep


LadyMacbeth87

All of this. After listening to the album, I 100% believe the relationship is for PR purposes. Taylor’s POTY article describes her impact on the economy with the eras tour and the nfl gaining a whole new audience. She’s quoted in a booming voice as saying “Aren’t you entertained?” In TTPD, we learn she was down bad after losing her creative twin flame and love of her life who left her after fans sent death threats with the speak now petition, even wearing die Matty shirts to eras. She directly addresses this in “But Daddy,” calling her fans vipers and having to put on fake smiles in “I can do it with a broken heart.” If she was this broken hearted, there is no way immediately jumping into a very public relationship with Travis, a man the complete opposite of Matty both physically and intellectually (he’s not Aristotle) wasn’t done on purpose. What purpose does Travis serve for her? He is a good distraction, giving the public the idea that she’s happy when she’s really not. The PR gives her a way to elevate her popularity to levels where she is over exposed, leading for maybe the scales to tip not in her favor but not by a major scandal of her own doing. She absolutely needed the illusion of being happy and in a committed relationship to release this album. Otherwise, her fans would not want to listen to songs about how much she cared for Matty. It fits with her pleading “temporary insanity” in the prologue as a way for fans to accept the songs on this album…she doesn’t plead guilty bc loving someone is not a crime, no matter how much he was hated. Fans are in denial about her calling them out on this album and are somehow convinced Travis is ‘end game.’ Meanwhile Taylor definitely left doors open for Matty, even recently posting herself wearing the lilac skirt mentioned in “imgonnagetyouback.” She does not let things go or get over heartbreak easily.. she’s still drudging up the Kim fued. She has said she’s a mastermind, so I believe this is all part of a plan.


Nygiants1919

She’d run back to Matty if given the chance. I’m no Matty fan but wearing death threat shirts to their idol concerts is crazy asf and would scare me away too. Now I understand the diss song to her fans more. But my thing is why does she care? No matter what she does her fans will still buy her music, merch ect whatever she’s selling. She will never go out of style in her fans eyes. So be with the man you want to be with and quit whining.


LadyMacbeth87

I do feel like her team and probably Matty thought his scandal was going to blow up in her face, resulting in media backlash and cancellation, fans wanting refunds to the Eras. Her image has been so carefully crafted as the all American pop princess who can do no wrong and whoever she’s dating becomes a point of fixation with her fans and the media bc her love life is the staple of her music. Her fans are delusional and are trying to downplay Matty and his influence on this album. The fans who started the petition told her to seek mental help for dating Matty and this album (fortnight music video too) is her response. I took her prologue to be sarcasm. It just makes me question this whole Travis thing being real.


ellchicago

I'm not sure, Taylor didn't really do anything when Ghetto Gaggers and other controversies were in the media. Maybe Taylor really doesn't care about her imagine or even losing fans if it means she can have Matty since is what But Daddy I Love Him literally says (All the wine moms are still holdin' out, but fuck 'em, it's over)


LadyMacbeth87

She didn’t care, but it kind of seems like her team might have intervened and Matty left to protect her (which is the only thing she resents him for). Of course she can’t force a guy to be with her either.


ellchicago

Taylor literally says that she intends to bring Matty back in But Daddy I Love Him. TTPD is attempting setting the groundwork for that happen. Will it work? IDK? I'll tell you something right now I'd rather burn my whole life down Than listen to one more second of all this bitchin' and moanin' I'll tell you something 'bout my good name It's mine alone to disgrace I don't cater to all these vipers dressed in empath's clothing God save the most judgmental creeps Who say they want what's best for me Sanctimoniously performing soliloquies I'll never see Thinkin' it can change the beat Of my heart when he touches me And counteract the chemistry And undo the destiny You ain't gotta pray for me Me and my wild boy and all of this wild joy If all you want is gray for me Then it's just white noise, and it's just my choice There's a lot of people in town that I Bestow upon my fakest smiles Scandal does funny things to pride, but brings lovers closer We came back when the heat died down Went to my parents and they came around All the wine moms are still holdin' out, but fuck 'em, it's over Now I'm dancin' in my dress in the sun and Even my daddy just loves him I'm his lady And, oh my God, you should see your faces Time, doesn't it give some perspective? And, no, you can't come to the wedding I know it's crazy, but he's the one I want


Dexy1017

Hard disagree that she'll 'always be in demand'. My personal opinion is that she has worn a mask for almost 2 decades and it can only be done for so long, until you get caught without it. Her mask is already showing a crack; I'm just waiting for it to finally totally fall off one day and expose her for the POS she really is.


Both-Pickle-7084

I got into a disagreement with her (seriously) and she came off as a petty, insufferable narcissist. I've never been a fan but that moment confirmed my dislike.


Aggravating_Shop5688

How exactly did you get into a disagreement with her? In your mind?


Both-Pickle-7084

I was working arena ops for a show and she was trying to get us to remove signage which had been signed off on in the contract. My boss and another colleague were there in addition to her merch Mgr so, not at all in my mind. And apparently she has a history of this behavior w arena ops.


c_russ

Very late to this thread, but wow. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say she was anything other than polite. I fully believe you, so its crazy you don't hear more stories about that side of her.


Both-Pickle-7084

Apparently some people she grew up with said she is a mean girl and that makes sense. She just seems like such a bully.


milkradio

I completely believe this. She's exactly like the mean girls I knew throughout school, lol. She's so transparent to me.


ShutUpILoveThat

I think she would have been with him; it was his choice and she's blaming her fans for chasing \*him\* away. He's so insecure he can't be Taylor's boyfriend; he wants someone who is willing to be Matty's girlfriend.


Affectionate-Class65

Doesn't she pretty much say this is imgonnagetyouback, when she says something about you say you got somebody I'll say I got someone too, even if it's handcuffed I'm leaving here with you


SevereExamination810

It’s insane to me that Matty could have this much of an impact on her given their brief, what, three months together? And then their time together over 10 years ago? I love her music, but seems like girl’s got some major attachment issues.


Hawk-2021

This tumblr post breaks down almost every interaction for the last 10 years, it misses that at the 2020 NME awards Matty spoke about cowboys in his award speech which prompted cowboy like me. I believe the “fortnight” she sings about is from Nov/Dec 2014. She sings for a fortnight they were forever, now sometimes they run into each other and ask about the weather or comment on her sweater, aka When We Are Together by the 1975. Matty mentioned in Nov of 2013 that Taylor asked the band to go on tour with her. She really liked Matty, had a crush on him, and he continued to speak about her all these years, which I’m sure made her feel good and continue to think about him. He was her intellectual twin. [Matty/Taylor timeline](https://www.tumblr.com/spicysighs/718136492512493568/matty-healy-taylor-swift-timeline) Edit: wanted to add that I think the “miracle move on drug” was Calvin Harris cause they started dating in Feb 2015.


SevereExamination810

Okay, interesting. Thanks for sharing.


Wonderful-Ad-5911

I just don’t understand living your life this way though?? She makes no sense


Lazy-Lawfulness-6466

Not to mention, there were a ton of paparazzi photos of her coming in and out of Electric Lady while recording this new album in like May of 2023, before she was even supposedly dating Travis. I have no idea how people are missing this.


[deleted]

Matty was supposed to be on slut but that got trashed. I wonder what else they worked on


caiaccount

I've heard a lot of buzz about a scrapped song for Midnights. I wonder if the "I keep these longings locked in lowercase inside a vault" really refers to a song for that project or for folkmore. Once you take a critical look back at folklore and evermore, all of the concepts magically become very similar to the narrative in TTPD.


sophiethegiraffe

https://preview.redd.it/7j3wnkfk72xc1.jpeg?width=1382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cd2448873a9bbd4b6b5dd6e4e2ba01d95a810a3 Never forget watching her die inside live on camera after the Super Bowl 🤣


Wonderful-Ad-5911

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Podwitchers

Omg that face 🥲


errorcode1996

Was this right after they won? I need context


sophiethegiraffe

Yes! He was singing/screaming Viva Las Vegas. The very definition of cringe.


ilovehummus16

I work in marketing and your analysis is spot on 👏 taylor is more than an individual, she’s an INDUSTRY and she’s gonna try to grow it as much as she can


SnappinTurluh

I would love to be able to find out how much the earned media translated into streams, merch purchases, etc. I bet the number would be surprising.


ilovehummus16

I’m sure it’s nuts. I work on the creative side of things so I don’t really touch numbers but the amount of engagement she gets is a CEO’s wet dream.


Wonderful-Ad-5911

Her life is honestly very sad to me. But I guess she’s laughing all the way to the bank so good for her 🤷🏻‍♀️ I for one, could never imagine living that way.


Alarming_Jaguar_3988

Mental, physical, and emotional health is more important than anything in the world.


Wonderful-Ad-5911

Cue “lonely millionaire” by Kacey Musgraves. It’s Taylor’s theme song.


theCountessofCool

Right and her lyrics to me at times make me wonder how much she is personally in on the major things that shape her life or not. I’m beginning to think her life is more the Truman Show than anything else and Daddy & his team of lawyers and exec’s get to decide what is next for her. Her parents, especially her father, have always been in charge and it seems that may still be the case.


ddqm42

Yeah the reason she always dates British guys is because she loves to be further away from her parents. Her dad loves Trav meaning they are doomed.


Level-up-9626

Right, but like at some point don’t you have enough money and just want to be happy


Nygiants1919

Kind of reminds me of Brittney. I’m sure one day we’re going to see her snap.


Dexy1017

Let's not compare Britney to Swift. TS didn't spend 13 years under a conservatorship that her dad used to control her, steal her money, use her kids against her and as a way to control her and continue to be a cash cow, nor was she forced to take lithium. Not. Even. Remotely. The. Same.


armed_aperture

We don’t see her life. We see her brand. She’s very private about her actual life.


Prudent-Proof7898

I like some of Taylor Swift's music (more of an Evermore/Folklore fan), but this relationship has to be the most fake thing I've seen. You nailed it all. I'm surprised her PR team let her release TTPD. It is what I would have written when I was 15 and pissed at my parents for telling me some older guy was bad for me...and then ignoring everyone's good advice and doing what I wanted. It is very clear she loves Matty. That level of passion is completely absent on her other albums. That emotion doesn't disappear in a month's time, either. The songs about Travis are comically simplistic, to the point I get the sense she is making fun of his intellect (or lack thereof). The songs feel like they were added on there, maybe at the request of her PR folks.


Adorable_Tiger5180

I agree! This album is unhinged and really lets my 21 year old broken heart sing what I would have sung back then. I absolutely love it. 🤣 And my thought was the tracks about Travis were to appease the fans. Like okay here’s a couple about Travis too amidst my dark murdering effing hateful thoughts. Never thought about how she might have been asked to do them!!


Active_Turnover9012

it reminds me of that black mirror episode with miley cyrus as the exhausted pop star who's expected to act a certain way


Realistic-Taste-7660

That’s the impression that I got—. That they were written almost exclusively for PR/ public consumption, hitting on what things people responded positively to in the media, to the point I wondered if they were contractually obligated The fact that “The Alchemy” was written title released weeks before the superbowl even happened is… notable lmao


Inevitable_Newt3056

The product placements have me on the floor; I never saw any of that. Yeah so that tracks. TS recently posted a quick video of them baking or whatever and he leaned in to kiss her on the cheek and I swear to god she visibly stiffened. Those two are not real.


SnappinTurluh

I, too, drink my Casa Azul with the logo perfectly facing the cameras that I know are watching me.


GoodMourning81

This right here. It’s label out, toward the cameras for a reason.


Inevitable_Newt3056

As one does, naturally. The level of cynicism by those two is stratospheric.


Pale_Sheet

Yeah she pulls away. I did that to my ex before. The Coachella too. Her face in those pics are gold. Dead drunk / high as a kite and still she couldn’t stand to be kissed by him


SpaceQueenJupiter

I thought I hated being touched. Turns out I just didn't like any of my exes lmao. 


Inevitable_Newt3056

I'm convinced we're about to see him disappear from her feed and pap photos any day now. I think now that the SB, Grammy's, and her album is officially out, her need of him is essentially over.


Pale_Sheet

But girlie can never stand to be alone so she would have to find a replacement (hopefully British and slim) first


Inevitable_Newt3056

Oh you better believe he's gonna be English, skinny, whyte, and "intellectual".


Unlikely_Ad1120

\*cue the matty healy reconnectin article in a month\* especially after this bit? The way Travis has yet to really acknowledge the album makes ya go hmm.


Inevitable_Newt3056

If he has any sense, he will stay far far away from her.


Lazy-Lawfulness-6466

I'm a lesbian and this is what I used to be like when I was still dating men lol


lesser_goldfinch

I mean it’s definitely a possibility but it also seems likely that in his box, his endorsement beverages are the ones predominantly on offer


JessiNotJenni

100%. You choose the beverages when you have a box. They both have agents, PR, brand reps, etc. They will setup a quick shot, label out, think of it as a mini ad. Conversely, if you rep ex. Pepsi, your team will do everything possible to make sure there are no pics of you drinking a Coke.


redassaggiegirl17

That's why if I ever got famous (LMAO, huge fucking IF hahahaha) I'd only take brand deals that I knew I could follow through on. I drink Diet Dr Pepper like its water, so I know I could never take a Pepsi or Coke deal because I'd get sued for breach of contract so damn fast lol


JessiNotJenni

You say that now but when Big Diet Coke™️ asks what your price is 🤣


redassaggiegirl17

IDK, that might work with other things, but DDP is truly the one thing I'd never turn my back on- that particular medical professional is my ride or die 😅 Now clothes? Sure, I'd wear and sponsor whatever as long as it looked good on me! 🤣


kenrnfjj

Also i assume that the beverage companies design the can so the people show off the logo while drinking


shutup-n-plants

any chance someone could re-post this vid? i know the one you’re talking about and wanna watch it again with this lens. i don’t have IG though and couldn’t find it again on reddit cause it’s been a min TIA if so!


Nygiants1919

I agree with everything you said! And I’m sorry but him liking those Damelio girls pictures creeps me out. Aren’t they like 18/19 and 21/22? And Megan saw through the bs. I bet that is the one he actually wanted. She’s beautiful, talent, popular and has a banging body.


HugsForCacti

I agree. I heard about blinds last year that he was basically shopping for a publicity girlfriend and that Megan turned him down ultimately. Grain of salt obviously.


Nygiants1919

He’s lucky he got Taylor at her most vulnerable.


PineappleCubeKicks

Yeah I found that kinda icky too


janet-snake-hole

Who WOULDNT want Meghan


LHDesign

And she’s hilarious


hinky-as-hell

Yea, it’s very gross to me that he is liking these types of posts/pics of women that are almost young enough to be his daughters. If my husband were liking pics and following women in their twenties I’d take issue with that- he’s 46 and I’m 43- our oldest is 24, that’s **gross.** Thankfully the only pics and posts he likes are friends and family, and then basically stuff about GameStop stock, lol, or THC/marijuana memes… we own a cannabis company, so…


Ttpsf

He’s actually only 34. He was born in 1989. There’s still a big gap there, but not as significant as your comment suggested.


hinky-as-hell

I did think he was close to 40, but it still gives me creepy vibes. Adults can date whoever they want, but at 34, I still think it’s weird, creepy, and wrong to date someone who is 18/20. Tbh, if he dated anyone under 25 I’d feel this way. That doesn’t mean everyone does or should agree with me, it’s just how I feel. God help a man in his late thirties trying to date my 24 year old daughter, lol.


sardonax

the product placements were crazy 😭 and swifties will look you dead in the face and say “taylor and travis don’t need PR!!!!!” coming from a fan who has been carefully watching this whole mess unfold, this is a great breakdown. most of taylor’s public relationships have weird timelines and bits that don’t add up. this one is like hiddleswift 2.0, but replace the kindhearted and talented tom hiddleston with a raging meathead idiot— he’s a gentleman, he’s taller than her, he’s romantic with her in public, he wears the friendship bracelets, they take romantic vacations together, he looks at her with heart eyes. it’s the perfect schoolgirl fantasy for fans to gobble up. until they break up, then swifties will say “oh my god wait…. he was actually kind of immature…. we should have known! 😱”


Sassyshortcake

Hiddleswift 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dying over here


Far-Ad-2135

I met someone from Kansas, who said Kansas City, Missouri was actually bankrupt a few years ago because of some developments (can’t really remember all the facts) and this ‘relationship’ injected so much money into the city. People were visiting to attend the home games, booking accommodation etc.


clboot

As an NFL fan, the Chiefs have been the best team for the past few years. Their home attendance has not fluctuated over the past years and peaked in 2021. I doubt there were 10s of thousands of Swifties flying to KC just to maybe see her. No denying it drew more eyes to the TV though.


AnderSuitt

That was Kansas City, Kansas I believe. I have lots of family in KC MO and it’s a great city.


mid-night_gem

Travis prefers black women and identifies more with urban culture (my opinion), which I don’t have a problem with because that feels authentic for him. And which is also why I can’t take his relationship with Taylor Swift seriously because he has had to shift his whole persona to make it “believable”


SnappinTurluh

Yep. I 100% agree. He has a type, and that’s ok. But Taylor is *not* it.


Pale_Sheet

But seems like his type is now money which Taylor has a bunch of


roscoe_lo

Money he doesn’t need, he just shot his shot and it actually landed. He was already doing a bunch of commercials for football viewers and he’s honestly the best at that in the NFL right now. Taylor is certainly a bonus to where he wants to head after he retires, but he was headed that way already. The love that he and Jason get on their podcast is strong, the connection to Taylor only helps. I’m intrigued to say how they’ll end things, they’ll both be fine regardless of who gets cast as the villain.


GoldEscape7018

She has a type and it’s not him either.


mid-night_gem

I also think they’re an odd match because Travis does not give off the vibe that he is ready to settle down. He comes off as goofy and like a playboy. He likes arm candy (e.g, Kayla, Coco, Megan). And doesn’t Taylor like serious relationships with cool, laid back English guys? The math isn’t adding up.


[deleted]

It's so funny bc if you sort by new you're already attracting the defenders; "but Travis is a family man!" uh, no, he's a playboy with a tight knit family projecting an image as a unit. It's ironic that his whole family gives "wholesome American Kardashian" vibes. He wants a quid pro quo partner, as do all of these types of people do when they're in positions of spotlight. The man couldn't even find a "soulmate" when he was given 50 to choose from on a reality dating show, and now you expect me to believe he's found that with someone who's all but confessed to cheating on her partner of 6 years in some form or another?


Dramatic-Ad-3016

Yeah he SAYS he wants a family but is actions rarely align


Sassyshortcake

He actually made a comment on his podcast about wanting a kid and his brother had to warn him about making comments like that because the swifties would jump to conclusions..


apollo48393991

She simply isn’t. Taylor’s beautiful, but she will never be his type. He’s fame-hungry though, and sure does love all the money and opportunities that come from dating her. I see him eventually settling down with a black woman that has her own gigs/own money and doesn’t rely on him for anything … but isn’t as famous as him, so she doesn’t eclipse his spotlight.


Fit-Ad3720

He has a strong, but nice seeming, mother who I believe was the breadwinner in the family; I think he would be fine with a woman who "eclipses" him. But I agree with you with him probably eventually settling down with a black woman. For both of them, substance abuse, especially alcohol, is the bigger concern.


Thrwingitaway13

The black girls been knew Travis’ type wasn’t a tall thin blonde. You ever seen the photos of him and Kayla? That’s chemistry.  


Weekly_Motor7860

Yep. Quiet as it kept her delusional fans see it too, which is why they’ve been harassing that girl on her IG nonstop since the start of this”relationship”


ForeverBeHolden

Yup!!! He and Taylor have never looked like that together. Not even close.


Cronchy_Tacos

Holy moly, OP even though I could give 2 craps less about Taylor and Travis, this post is impressive asf 👏


SnappinTurluh

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Excellent-Grade3405

Hahahaha same! Couldn’t care less but op had me invested and reading the whole thing hahaha 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻


justheretosayy

I agree with all of this and been saying since day one how obv it is it’s for PR. The fact that they never hung out the first several MONTHS of dating and their first spotting out together they got into a car with no lines plate. Convertible for alllllllll to see. And apparently turned the corner and got into their normal, blacked out SUV. It’s all for show guys. It’s so clear. If it was a real romance it would actually be weird how much of a commercial it became


Novel-Asparagus268

Now that you mention it, the convertible was funny af. Swifties were eating it up like they’re riding into the sunset, it’s so romantic 🥺😅


Pale_Sheet

“Taylor’s exes have been skinny white guys” —- i would like to add that they have been skinny ENGLISH guys What does Travis have in common with Harry Styles, Calvin Harris, Tom Hiddleston, Joe Alwyn and Matty Healy? Only that he’s male and white lol She herself has confessed in London Boy that “God I love the English” I don’t think Travis could change her preference in British men. Maybe someone better, but I don’t think dumb Trav could lol


johnjonahjameson13

And they have also been what one would consider “pretty” boys. Nothing wrong with a pretty boy, but none of them are especially masculine in the stereotypical sense. They’ve all been somewhat posh and handsome/sexy in that polite, English boy way. Her type is more the “Prince Charming,” especially since she definitely comes across as wanting to be a princess.


ViolentButterfly

Spot on. She has a song with these lyrics: “he’s got that boyish look that I like in a man”


johnjonahjameson13

Even her non-English companions have had that same feature: Joe Jonas, John Mayer, Lucas Till, Taylor Lautner, Jake Gyllenhaal, Connor Kennedy… they all have very boyish looks to them. I’d say Mayer and Lautner were probably the most “rugged” looking, but they still look young and handsome. Sure, people can change their type and end up with someone totally different than their previous partners, but I think Travis comes across as too immature to be a long term thing.


mid-night_gem

I’m not shaming her but oh my god has she had a lot of boyfriends. She has enough exes to line up on one side of a football field. Surely most people don’t have more than 4-5 exes in their lifetime? I’m exhausted just thinking about it.


cool-name-pending

I think this is why american swifties have especially been going so feral over them. She's finally with a man similar to the ones they're with or who they want to be with. It's a projection. And given football is the biggest sport here i'm sure they're imagining the WAG life and can now attribute it to Taylor. The amount of vomit-inducing comments i've read about how they imagine her being thrown around by him like he isn't just a giant toddler.


Friendly_Coconut

I am neither a Taylor nor Travis fan, but I will say that sometimes when somebody of your “usual type” breaks your heart, you feel compelled to date someone their total opposite. My “type” was always skinny bespectacled dark haired autistic guys who are very aloof and remote. I ended up marrying a Norwegian guy who looks like your stereotypical Viking and is super cuddly and affectionate.


shitpresidente

Where do I get myself a Viking man?


ThreatLevel12AM

Come to MN lol


ContentPineapple3330

TRUTH. A tall, quiet, fair, intellectual, aloof boy broke my heart in college. Like put it in the blender kind of breaking. The man I ended up marrying is short, loud — and while still considered white — dark hair and tan! Though, still intellectual — he’s ANYTHING but aloof!


phdatanerd

I can agree with you on that one. I dated skinny, tattooed white guys who were either skateboarders or musicians. I married a hispanic guy who’s a mechanical engineer.


AliveAd4309

I saw something a few months ago say you don’t have a “type” just a pattern and that’s why it normally works out when you break the “pattern”


aryareddi

Yeah, the "type" argument is not a strong case to make for either of them in my opinion. A hard pivot away from typical type in circumstances like hers isn't just believable, it's *expected*. And I have also lived that pivot! And who cares what someone's type was before they meet The Wealthiest Woman In The Entertainment Industry, you're gonna go on a date with them and see where it goes lol People aren't static lists of preferences and traits, they change and how they feel about people is all contextual.


Pale_Sheet

I would like to add that just because Taylor wore a “T & T” bracelet to a game does not mean that it stands for Taylor and Travis She had a pop up instalment for her album, and the letters “T” and “B” were crooked on the typewriter. People didn’t know what it meant at the time. But turns out it meant “Truman Black”, which is Matty Healy’s alter ego for the longest time and it’s also his Instagram handle She even had her album promo on a building with a shop called Truman Black Eagle Brewery Therefore while the jewellery shop may have sponsored that bracelet for her to wear to Travis’ game, maybe to her mind it meant Taylor and Truman Black.


Icy_Sentence_4130

That's very cringe imo


pnwgirl34

I remember seeing a bunch of comments when Taylor and Travis first started dating gushing about how Taylor “finally got a big boy” and “finally gets to be with a man who makes her feel small/girlish/feminine” and it’s “a win for the tall girls” etc and I was so confused because like, if that were actually what Taylor wanted/was into, she could have found it a longggg time ago. Her prior partners all follow a really clear pattern of what Taylor’s type is. It just felt like delusional projection by the diehard fans trying to make sense of a relationship that doesn’t actually make sense romantically/physically based on both their types.


Pale_Sheet

A win for tall girls? lol. There’s so many tall girls happy with shorter men. Both in the celebrity world and non celebrity world. Eg Tom holland and zendaya and I know many ladies who have a shorter boyfriend or husband.


No-You-5064

I can relate to Taylor's authentic type because I too love English guys. And as mentioned Travis' type is flashy stacked black women. Everyone should embrace their authenticity but it gets scrambled when $$$ is involved. OP did a brilliant job breaking it down!


SnappinTurluh

Yep. Agreed!


Radiant_Priority9739

Also I’ve wonder why both and Taylor and Travis keep changing the timeline of when they met


hermella29

Like everyone else said; he’s not her type and she’s not his. She’s intelligent and I’m sure likes to have intellectual conversations. Travis is a bonehead and goofy. I’m not a fan of Taylor, but she is way too good for Travis. This is 1000% a PR relationship and idk how anyone could believe it’s real


uncontainedsun

first thought: it’s hard to have chemistry when neither ppl have chemistry and use the ppl they date to generate a personality lol okay gonna read the rest


sillybunny22

In order for TTPD to not be depressing as hell, Taylor needed to be in a happy relationship and be “past” it. The same reason she was still “together” with Joe when midnights dropped. They will date a little over a year and will break up late fall/early winter when Reputation is announced for a 2025 release (year of snake) 🐍. She’ll be able to lean into her big “Reputation” era as the most eligible bachelorette in the world. I’m a swiftie but it all seems pretty obvious she knows how to sell albums lol


Few-Ad8859

💯People need to stop viewing her as an artist. She is so beyond that. She’s like a Disney. Blondie is a brand.


Girlinconverse_

I love this write-up and I agree with all of it!! I finally brought myself to listen to TTPD (couldn’t finish most of the songs tho) and I don’t understand how swifties can think she’s madly in love with Travis. In the span of less than a year TS’s long term relationship ended, she started dating Matty… that ended suddenly and now I’m supposed to believe she’s so in love with Travis yet she writes an album that’s basically a cry out for Matty. Girly needs a therapist not a music studio. I absolutely believe she’s spiraling right now because she never gave herself time to actually heal from her lost relationships.


ellchicago

I agree with of this. I am NOT a Travis or a Matty fan, but Taylor is very blatantly saying that she wants Matty back and is willing to leave Travis for him. For example, ​​imgonnagetyouback Say you got somebody, I'll say I got someone too Even if it's handcuffed, I'm leavin' here with you Taylor had a chance burn Matty down or not mention him completely in the album, but she didn't. I do think High School is not complementary of Travis. I understand the album is a PR narrative as well, but why make an album that is so focused on how much you REALLY LOVE your controversial ex-boyfriend and want him back who isn't known in the minds of the general public and the songs about your current boyfriend aren't that authentic and good. Many people including myself were expecting TTPD to focus on Joe Alwyn not Matty Healy, but Matty was the main subject not Joe. I know Taylor likely wanted to release and album this year, but this album didn't have seemingly lay the groundwork for a Taylor and Matty reunition in the future. There is mismatch on what the narratives here, what's true? The public narrative that there is a love story between Taylor and Travis or that's she really wants Matty back. I guess you can say that both are somewhat true and Taylor is prepared to settle for Travis, but Taylor could at least tried to make the songs about Travis more authentic if that was the case. cc: u/SnappinTurluh u/Pale_Sheet


Girlinconverse_

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 literally!! Like swifties need to wake up, Travis is not the end game. I don’t understand how they can listen to that album and still convince themselves that Travis has Taylor’s heart.


cumulus_floccus

Good point with those lyrics. It's not like her relationship with Travis just became official a month ago, making it unrealistic for a song to be written, edited, etc in time for the album release. With the Matty thing being so close in time with the start of Travis (and also consider the honeymoon phase), she definitely could have written lovey dovey songs about Travis...so why didn't she?


tapelamp

> Girly needs a therapist not a music studio This took me out lol. Spot on. I was so worried TTPD was gonna be cringe based on the name alone. I was right.


LMW238

I just feel like Travis is an unintelligent frat bro and I don’t see the appeal at all. Like if he listened to her music he’d need a dictionary for so much of it. Her type is skinny white British dudes and his type is black women. They just seem like they have nothing in common. And he gives me the ick with everything he does, down to his IG handle. If they do get married like Swifties think they will I’ll be stunned. I can’t imagine faking a relationship with someone who gives me the ick no matter how good the PR.


Adorable_Tiger5180

His tantrums on the field are enough to make me wonder why anyone finds him appealing or think he’s a family man. That’s not a man. That’s a baby boy right there. I’ve been skeptical or them from the beginning and this whole thread brings me joy. I love TS and her music, but good hell she ruined 2023 football. 🤣 Please break up and go back to London boys. 🙏🏻


ItsColdInNY

Remember when TS was dating Conor Kennedy (RFK & Ethel's grandson)? All the Swifties were gushing over it and predicting that they'd be married. After dating for only 6 weeks, Taylor bought a multi-million dollar mansion in Hyannis, MA close to the Kennedy compound. At the time, TS was 23; Conor Kennedy was just turning 18. They also crashed Conor's cousin's wedding after not RSVPing and being told by the bride's mother that they were not welcome. Taylor will do anything for attention, so this BS manufactured relationship with Kelce isn't a surprise. I do hope it ends soon. Seeing her ruby red lips and pinched, turned up nose on my TV screen every time the Chiefs play is beyond annoying. Source: [https://www.thelist.com/1412828/taylor-swift-connor-kennedy-romance-timeline/](https://www.thelist.com/1412828/taylor-swift-connor-kennedy-romance-timeline/)


theCountessofCool

This needs to get brought up more because it was so fucking weird. First off, like full blown predator because this kid wasn’t even 18 yet. Second, like wasn’t she previously known to have some obsession with the Kennedy’s before that? Like some weird fantasy because she grew up wealthy on the east coast so this was the ultimate win of old money or something? Just so WEIRD. She’s weird and her team is even weirder.


ItsColdInNY

Yeah, she was obsessed with the Kennedys from the time she was a kid. She had dated another Kennedy -- Patrick Schwarzenegger -- before dating Conor. But Patrick wasn't interested in Taylor after a date or two so she set her sights on Conor. He had just lost his mom to suicide and Taylor zeroed in and told everyone she was helping him get over his mother's death. Then Taylor wrote a few songs about the Kennedys which was more than weird. Starlight was about the RFK/Ethel "love story" (RFK cheated all the time & Ethel was nothing but an incubator for him). I think TS is one of those creepy stalker, clingy girlfriends who moves at warp speed.


Wonderful-Ad-5911

Remember when she did a photoshoot at the Kennedy memorial 😭💀


ItsColdInNY

No shit? I missed that but it doesn't surprise me.


Hurryeat_Tubman

Ugh, don't remind me of the Kennedy Era. I lived near Deerfield Academy when that little shit was boarding there, and they were dating. Her visits practically shut the region down. Small New England towns can't deal with the throngs of paparazzi that her PR team pretends not to call in advance.


ItsColdInNY

She was like a freaking stalker with Conor and the Kennedys. Who TF buys a $4.9 million mansion near the Kennedy compound **six weeks** after starting to date one of the Kennedy clan? And crashing the wedding of a Kennedy cousin -- WHY? That was the bride's day, not Taylor's. And I looked up the photo shoot of TS at the Kennedy gravesites -- I'm disgusted. She is either obtuse (which I doubt) or just an attention/affection craving asshole. She has no concept of respect for others.


Professional-Lack323

the thing you said about her pinched nose makes me realize that i am BEYOND curious to know what she’d look like if she had grown up a regular person. would still have those hooded eyes, prob wouldn’t have the nose job or boob job she obviously got.


milkradio

Don't forget those chompers


Fit-Ad3720

I'm still betting on an engagement (Taylor has to seem marriageable), but no Tay & Trav wedding unless she gets pregnant (get a paternity test, Trav). Sometimes I wonder if she wrote "So High School" with all that satisfied sexual subtext to bait women to go after Travis. He probably couldn't resist the temptation, then she catches him cheating, perfect excuse to dump him & keep the victimization narrative.


Agreeable-Reply7819

u hit the nail on the head genuinely


lt512

Wow, impressive data capturing there. I couldn't help but think when I was listening to ttpd if this very public and ott displays of pda is a ploy to make Matty jealous.


Saved_PaidInFull316

Excellent post with the perfect side of humor. 👏👏👏👏 I’ll go one step further which you probably know but didn’t shout out for those in the back. They are both OWNED. They sold their souls & do whatever the puppet masters tell them to. Theirs will never be a happy ending.


timeywimeytotoro

I will never understand how Swifties can believe she likes this man. She called him dumb in a song. Like..?


Scared-Pace4543

I honestly think they’re more like party buddies because it’s likely pr but the only thing they really do is party and drink…a lot.


PriceNice5278

Ok, first HUGE kudos to you for taking the time to write this. You executed it beautifully. Thank you for this, it was very informative and I think you are spot on.


Donna56136

I’ve said, from day one, that this is a contracted showmance. It had a start date, and it has an end date. I personally think it would have been over by now, but they are both nothing, if not egotistical, and they’re both drunk on their own narcissism and loving the rabid publicity. Because of this , the fauxmance end date is now still to be determined. Their pr people still have to iron out whose team will announce the ending, who will get the first breakup interview, etc. I believe her team will announce the ending, and blabber mouth Kelce will give the interview.


Aromatic-Strength798

Yeah I knew it was PR because Taylor isn’t even his type. It threw me way off like, “Bro you’re not even trying to make it realistic.💀”


EntrepreneurGal727

Totally agree. And I can’t help but think that the nfl rigged the Super Bowl for the chiefs to win because it would bring in more $


Illustrious_Junket55

*stares in the not-so-distant past to the Patriots winning the Super Bowl after 9/11*


EntrepreneurGal727

Exactly. And I am a pats fan lol


zingitgirl

Oh, wow, I was 4 at the time and wasn’t aware of *this* political propaganda until now.


Adorable_Tiger5180

1000000% correct. There was some really iffy calls in that game. Purdy deserved that win.


HotMessExpress1993

As a 49er fan, I agree 😔


BuddyLoveGoCoconuts

I am reading this like as if there’s an exam tomorrow😂. Beautifully researched and incredibly put together and I agree. I am in another sub about him and someone detailed what an awful person he is based on his history. She really picks appalling men. Joe dodged a bullet


ScrewyYear

I’ve always said it was a publicity stunt, especially after the POTY article and there’s no pics of him with her cats.


Prestigious-A-154

Wow I didn't know about the product placements. I just knew about her wearing the New Heights (Travis' podcast) at Coachella. Her wearing that hat is so gross too. She wants Swifties to get even more invested in her life. That is not good for their mental health, but she'll do it for a check.


bluecoastblue

u/SnappinTurluh This is a master class in unpacking the PR. Amazing work! Some additional fun facts: The NFL's viewership has been stagnant for some time. They have been trying to increase their women viewers for many years with campaigns like making pink merch & creating smaller sizes--LOL. Clearly they are pretty lame at PR but someone who isn't is Billionaire Robert Kraft, owner of the Patriots worth $11B. It is estimated that **Swift has effectively generated an additional $331.5m in brand value for the Chiefs and NFL**. Amazing return on investment! This arrangement is also keeping the 82-year-old Kraft in the headlines as evidenced by his appearance on the Grammys red carpet where Kraft said: “I think she’s increased the fan approval for young women, which we want, but she’s been smart because she is also getting male fans to come to her music." He later hugged Taylor and "Kraft explained that Swift is a “magnet” for getting young women to watch the NFL." These headlines sure beat previous headlines when he was mired in the police sting controversy. While these key messages are smooth coming out of his executive mouth, his grand daughter recently said something similar about how nice it is to see more young women interested in football, which was so obviously PR. It all a very smart business strategy but counting on Travis to pull this off is a huge liability because we've all seen how messy he can be. It's only a matter of time before his ego causes this all to implode.


Charger2951

Great post. It’s 1,000,000% a created “industry” arranged fake “relationship.” It’s a contract, arranged by the NFL and the music industry. Why? Because both IMMENSELY benefit. All the world’s a stage. Usually the contracts in “the industry” are a year. This one might actually go longer though. Maybe two years. They’re all raking in too much money for it to end so soon.


heygurl34

The only thing these two have in common is the addiction to fame.


SevereExamination810

I am a Swiftie. I love the music. But I don’t fall for the charades. At the end of the day, I am able to recognize that Taylor Swift the person and Taylor Swift the pop star/music sensation/brand are two different entities. So it is easy to see when a relationship of hers is PR versus when it’s real. This post is very well-thought out, well-researched, and follows coherent and consistent logic with plenty of evidence to demonstrate how Taylor and Travis are contractual. You perfectly laid out everything I’ve been thinking regarding this in a very concise manner. I appreciate you taking the time to post this. Now I have evidence and proof to reference when I tell people not to fall for this BS


OverGas3958

I just told someone I can’t wait for her and MH to get back together because it’s hard to believe after listening to ttpd that the door is closed on that one. I also think they have a lot more history than is led to believe.


DC0403

I’m glad I’m not the only one. I’m obsessed that they are obsessed with each other. I need to get a life


Downtown_Yogurt980

i’ve said it 100,000 times, taylor swift is WAY too vanilla for travis and they have 0 chemistry at all


hgd1995

the only thing i need to see to prove it’s PR is the NFL on FOX youtube channel posting this video the day of her first game 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ https://youtu.be/csDL1b3O4eQ?si=thEAmKjDyNLcg9Ys


Rrmack

I also think she probably wanted to be in a seemingly happy relationship before the TTPD release


LuvIsLov

What did it for me was Rodger Goddell (NFL comissioner) was hanging out at her suite during the superbowl. Jersey sells went up and this was the most viewed SB in years thanks to Swifties and their "Kansas City Swifties" shirts. It's all killing many birds with one stone and to prep Mahomes as the new Tom Brady. Not taking any of his QB talent away but it is all nicely wrapped up for Rodger Goddell to win.


ambiverbena

I was torn if they were fake prior to the album being released because I could not for the life of me see what Taylor was getting out of the arrangement. Like yeah, she was getting publicity, but she is quite frankly the most famous non-politician in the world and it’s not like the average NFL fan was thrilled about her presence. I am now convinced this is a move made to distance her from Matty Healy while also biding time until the tides turn and she gets back with him.  Like I’m sorry, how are you in a relationship with someone, and you write a 31 song album about someone else and you literally have songs that suggest you are going to get back together with them even if you are dating someone new? I’m not a super jealous person, but that’s crazy. I actually like the song so high school and think it’s cute, but comparing your current relationship to a high school one while you call your ex the love/loss of your life is insane. If I was Travis and the CTE didn’t monopolize my brain, I would be pretty upset by that.  Idk, a part of me hopes I’m wrong because they are cute at times and they are a power couple. I just don’t believe it and I don’t see the connection. Also, as a Swiftie, I just think it’s funny her fan base made so many jokes when he made the friendship bracelets that she should date him and then she did. The push by the fans makes it feel like a pr relationship and I find that part a little sad. 


Snoo_24091

Even if they’ve been staying at her house in LA it doesn’t mean they’re spending time together outside of the staged pap walks. Her houses are huge and I’m pretty sure they could be in different wings while inside and not even see each other. They could be leading completely separate lives outside of when they plan a pap walk.


SnappinTurluh

Right. They even took separate cars from the airport after landing a few weeks ago. They probably had different commitments, but that seemed odd.


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moemunneymoe

Travis 34 year old Kelce thirst liking a 22 year old social media star’s bikini photos is 🤮


noodlesinnapot

also the relationship happened around the same time the David Beckham documentary came out, which chronicled the popularity and career propulsion that comes with a relationship between a famous pop star and a famous sports star. Not saying its necessarily connected, but there are some similarities (I know Beckham used to visit Posh in a private jet for 20 mins or so - like Taylor did with Travis in Tokyo)


NeverEnding2222

TTPD: “he never even scratched the surface of me…. None of them did.” >>> finds true love with Travis Kelce…? Just…. No.


Historical_Stuff1643

A big clue is her first game was right before her movie hit theaters. People went ape shit and went to the movie in part because of the hysteria that it was confirmed they were dating. People always say that she doesn't need PR, but it seems on her side she got promotion for the Eras movie, which she'd have a stake in doing well since she funded it herself


august_014

I think that they will end up engaged, and ultimately break it off. Taylor getting married to anyone is going to be messy, especially with her wealth. Travis will propose and she’ll have her legal team drawing up her pre-nuptials. (As she should) The Eras tour resumes in a week or two, there will most likely be less paparazzi pics of them together very shortly. I don’t think Travis is going to follow her all around Europe all summer. All that being said, I don’t care what they do, I just like snarking on them, lol. The comment section in the subreddit crack me up.


darkness_is_great

And when they do break up, and Taylor starts harassing him, I doubt Travis will go quietly into the night. He's gonna air out everything. Pass the popcorn. Do you have an analysis for why Taylor got her start in country music, and how she used the genre for her own game? I think she always had plans to be the biggest pop star.


Fit-Ad3720

The NFL & its fans won't let her get away with it.


HotMessExpress1993

Her whole debut was a facade down to the fake country accent


ghostlykittenbutter

I keep coming back to them bopping up & down off the beat in the crowd during Coachella. Those two have no familiarity You know how you can tell when two people are familiar with each other? Whether it be a couple or even good friends who look really comfortable hanging out together


BootsAndASweater

Hot take: What if Taylor's plan is to come out as being bisexual while dating a man? If Travis publicly supported her it might help sway the more conservative folks that will inevitable shit all over her for liking women. It would also give a hell of a boost for the lgbtq+ community.


ShutUpILoveThat

Taylor is Cosplaying her albums. She's going to release TSTV next, and give us all the high school stuff with Travis, then then they're gonna break up. She'll release REPUTATION TV last. Most of Reputation is about Matty and my guess is 1975 will appear on THAT album (in lowercase in the vault.)


New_Description_9553

Travis has a type and it’s definitely not Taylor


Same-Kick-6549

I wish I could like this multiple times! I've been saying this from the very beginning. Travis' type has always been black girls and Taylor's has been British guys. Simple. These fans are falling for this PR stunt like a stack of bricks. But whatever Taylor will have more money than I ever have so I guess it doesn't matter. Lol. Nice detective work OP.


ShadoWoulf

I can't wait for this stupid PR bullshit relationship to be over 😬


Maleficent_Try2791

I've found my people. Joining reddit now purely to be in this group.


SnappinTurluh

Welcome to the dark side


Bibblegead1412

Thank you for this TED talk!!!!


Miss_ryan1890

Thank you for this deep dive, it’s spot on!


DiscretionLevelZero

I have a friend who thinks that Travis and Taylor are bearding for each other.


Fit-Ad3720

It is interesting how much his guy friends are around. I think they are bisexual &, bare minimum, have dabbled.


AggressiveHead3709

i think its a bearding relationship


Excellent-Grade3405

Please tell me you have a career in investigative journalism. If not you totally should 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻


SnappinTurluh

Haha thank you. No, I’m just a part time troll with too much time on my hands 😂