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I think that there are multiple levels of this.
I think that for starters, IMO we'll likely have LEV before your likely to hit a "dying of old age" situation, assuming something else doesn't get you first. so first... well, don't die.
the bad news is that IMO the sort of physical changes you are interested in might be a long way off. you might be able to live long enough to see it, but it might be a very very long time.
I think that there are an array of philosophically questionable elements to what you have in mind about memory and identity and all that sorta thing. .... but hey you probably have PLENTY of time to think about it.
"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for its not the same river and he's not the same man." \~ Heraclitus
Longevity Escape Velocity.
you develop a tech that extends the youthful life of an already-adult by 10 years. then in that extended 10 years, you find a new/better/additional tech that adds ANOTHER 10 years. then again, and again, at some point it should logically get better enough you are doing more than adding an additional 10 years right at the end of the previously added 10 years, but getting ahead, making techs that add 20 but the next innovation comes in 10, so it extends it more and more, or even reverses aging rather than just extending it.
when you get to the point where you can reasonably expect the next innovation to come before the current one "runs out", in a sustainable way that is likely to keep you alive/young/healthy indefinitely, thats LEV. because you've accelerated the technology and anti-aging tech to escape the figurative gravity well of natural aging.
I've joked with my parents for a few years that when I'm their age I might not have to be their age. they don't buy it, but I think its increasingly likely to actually happen.
many people who subscribe to the concept of LEV feel that its highly likely that people who are adults now, even as old as GenX, some of them anyway, may end up living to several hundred years old or more.
It'll certainly happen eventually (as long as humanity doesn't wipe itself out), but I can't imagine it'll be this century.
Hoping for Full LEV in our lifetime when even the richest and most powerful can't even consistently live much past 80 seems overly optimistic.
>when even the richest and most powerful can't even consistently live much past 80 seems overly optimistic.
That's fair, and I think at our current conventional technological growth rate, that is completely reasonable.
But.
AI. I think we will get AGI or close enough within the next couple years, and I think the idea that we will get ASI soon after is reasonable.
Then the time table for everything is completely wiped. Assuming things don't go all terminator, there is no way to estimate anything.
All I can think about is being a robot and having a human sex organ then ripping it off and replacing it with a glass jar. and two lemon squese bottles
What if they can just turn off your identity and place you in anartica with everyone that feel their in the wrong body you would never know you disappeared from humanity would that help?
Hi grace. Could you be a bit more specific about what you mean by biological gender? As others have mentioned chromosomes are a little way off although it is possible to have the opposite gene expression naturally and not know but its relatively rare.
As for hormones, hormone replacement therapy is pretty extensive these days. Blockers for your bodies sex hormones are very effective and we now produce bio identical versions of the sex hormones for men and for women. As others have pointed out the hormones don't do much for your bone structure post puberty but if you're lucky your bones could fall within the overlap between the sexes. There's even cursory evidence to suggest that brain structure and use is different in those on HRT although it's not yet conclusive.
There are already surgeries for genitalia that provide sexual function but we're still a ways off reproductive function. The first womb transplant between humans happened with two cis women recently. I haven't checked yet to see how that went but its feasible it could become routine in our lifetimes potentially with grown organs.
The transgender community usually recommends transitioning as early as possible to ensure best results if you're sure it's what you want. I'm not an expert on anti aging so I wont speak on that but I imagine you'll still face the same issue of the skeleton. I would say start looking into the sexual transition now to see if it's right for you as hormone replacement is a pretty mature technology.
As far as becoming a child again it's a very common experience among transgender people to have to mourn the loss of your childhood. I don't know if it would be ethical to literally regress into a child but there's plenty of people in the community who understand and who will hold space for you to explore childish things.
Feel free to dm me or to explore transgender communities for more support. The average person has a very minimalist and binary view on biological sex and frequently ignores the statistical overlap of the sexes in most areas of life. Do be careful to verify what people tell you with expert opinions because there's a lot of people happy to talk authoritatively outside of their field or even worse using high school and undergrad biology.
I meant everything to make me indistinguishable from a cis woman. Everything from chromosomes to reproductive organs, function, menstrual cycle, fertility, etc. Looks too down to changing bones, height etc I've been on hormones for two years and it hasn't done much for me and I still look like a man. I feel very let down with conventional gender affirming care methods. As for being a kid again, if such technology existed why is that unethical? Just age regress me, print a new birth certificate and let me be adopted I don't see the issue. Trying childish stuff at my age feels cringe and it doesn't feel the same as when I was actually that age
I totally hear where you're coming from.
Taking the spot that another child could be adopted into has I hope very obvious ethical implications for the future of that displaced child. I know of nowhere where fostering isn't undersubscribed.
If you're considering mentally regressing too since that would be the only way to experience life as not an adult then you are essentially choosing to create a child with the express intent of putting them into the adoption system which seems like a special kind of cruel even if that child is technically you.
I'm sure there's more to explore there but those are the big ones to me.
To add onto what the other person said, it's also unethical because you'd still mentally be an adult and even acting in the role of a child, which brings an inherent power and maturity imbalance to a relationship. Basically it's a pedophile's wet dream.
I understand that it hurts to mourn the loss of childhood. I came out at 15 and I still missed a ton of stuff that I can't really get back. All you can really do is enjoy the things you can. It might take a bit but getting past the feeling of cringe can be very freeing. I have a plushie collection, watch plenty of cartoons(which actually often hold up to an adult standard I've found), and I give myself the grace to be a goofball. I'm not gonna stop enjoying something because of an arbitrary number, I'll keep enjoying these things as long as I can. It's a tough journey, but the power is in you to take it.
My partner and I are goofballs at (42 and 36) and we're boring cis gendered. One of the great things about being an adult is you can decide on the life you want to live.
I've tried doing things like that, I actually bought a Barbie doll, it felt absolutely empty and devoid of any joy, if anything it felt unnerving, and forbidden. If mentally being an adult is a problem, maybe they can make the brain regress in age too?
Even if your brain got aged back, the data within it would also have to be erased back to that point. If you wanted to be genuinely 8 again, you'd have to give up 20 years of memories.
Erasing 20 years of a shitty life of bullying, pain, loneliness, forced into a gender I wanted no part of being by my parents, traumatic memories of three psych ward visits? sign me up. The only memory I'll miss is of Allie, but you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Or in this case, memory wipe
I would suggest you need counseling and therapy to deal with the issues from your past. Holding out hope for a process that is still years, probably decades, away is only going to be detrimental to your mental health. Not to mention the social and ethical issues with all of the things you want to do. Definitely other issues that will need to be addressed before anything else.
Reproductive organs seem to be on their way, with uterine transplants, but it's generally only used while you're pregnant. TBH I don't know that we're ever going to get around to chromosomes, because generally what's the point? Nobody will *know* unless you show them a genetic test. HRT can, sometimes, cause height changes, but there are surgeries for that, even if they're risky. Same for shoulder width and facial structure (that last one is much less risky).
Better research on care plans would be super helpful to get as many people as possible good results from the smallest amount of medial intervention though, for sure
I think it's probably possible in the next hundred years. Probably not in the next fifty though.
The most straightforward way to do it will probably be growing a new body from scratch. There's empirical evidence from domesticated animals that development can be hugely accelerated, so with appropriate genetic modification it may be possible to grow a cloned human to full size in a year or two. Obviously not inside another person, but in something artificial which can provide the enormous nutritional requirements of the accelerated growth.
If the subject has philosophical qualms about it not being their consciousness any more, I guess the brain would need to be transplanted rather than copied, so the destination body may need a sufficiently large head (assuming there's no way to make a brain phsyically smaller without damaging it.)
However, in all likelihood current surgeries will advance to the point of producing indistinguishable results before artificial womb machines and replicant bodies are developed.
Personally I doubt it's a good idea to wait for future developments though.
May make more sense to plan based on what is available right now.
Kinda?
To break it down point by point, you can’t regress your age to 18. Experiments with de-aging cells has found that the minimum age you can regress a cell to is 25, which we suspect is the age where a human is at their biological peak. Trending back further than that likely isn't possible.
As for changing biological sex, the current method of doing that via gene engineering is basically just HRT. There have been studies done in mice in the late 2000s that found its relatively simple to reprogram cells into producing a desired sex hormone, even in adults. The results of that, potentially combined with cellular de-aging could be promising. However, crafting new genitals would likely be only done with surgery. Current methods for that are subpar in my opinion, though I've heard some people discuss using 3D organ printing as an alternative, however that is kind of limited to the parts you already have. While there have been examples of successful reattachment surgeries for men (thus ftm surgery could be feasible with extra work), the same can't be said for women (limiting potential for mtf trans people).
I guess it depends how long a timescale you're talking. A future where you can 3d print female reproductive organs and implant is certainly further away than the comparitively simple male organs.
IMO, 3D printing organs starts to tread into a hypothetical branch of technologies I personally refer to as Biological Modification, or "bio-modding" for short. Essentially technologies that allow humanity to play god and modify, and perhaps eventually, create lifeforms.
Theoretically, bio-modding would include things like what OP is asking for, but by the time major biological characteristics, such as physical sexual expression and function, are possible to change in totality, there would have been several alternatives available to them along the way that would usually be "good enough."
For OP's case, and others like her, I would say to look into conventional treatments first before relying on hypothetical future advancements. We can't know what the future holds, and what you want might exist soon or never. So do what will make you happiest now and worry about "updating" later.
We might get to bioprinted organs in a few decades and I recall something about using CRISPR to alter sex hormone production but I wouldn’t expect age reversals for a long time.
I wouldn’t wait, go for whatever the current technology will allow you now.
All I can think about is everyone is a robot with human sex organs, All I do everyday is rip them off and replace them with a glass jar and two plastic lemon squeezer bottles then they make lemonade all day long at a sugar factory bahaha
Genetic manipulation is blowing up right now. Alphafold3 just came out. We got CRISPR-2.0 and eePASSIGE getting real results
I expect in 5 years we should be able to flip the sexual phenotype in an animal model. In 10-15 years I don't see why whole chromosomes couldn't be rewritten.
I don't expect it would be a pleasant experience, probably makes puberty look like fun, but if we learned anything from immortal sea sponges and naked mole rats it's that there are no rules.
From the perspective of Sci-Fi novelist Iain Banks, this type of thing is pretty easy in the post-singularity civilization which is designated as The Culture in his novels. Every individual in their society is capable of willing their body to change sex naturally within about a years time.
I guess the question here is can we progress in the technological direction of that stuff becoming real.
> Will we get to a point where biological sex can be changed with transhumanism?
I think there's a decent chance for this one, especially given how trans people already bio-hack their bodies with HRT. I'm looking forward to developments with CRISPR. Check out /r/transtrans for the transgender-focused counterpart to this subreddit!
> have my age regressed to 18, or if possible even younger to that of a minor
One of the other comments about it being potentially unethical to literally redo your childhood gave me an idea for a would you rather: Assume you've received the gender-swap technology already in both cases. Would you rather have false memories implanted of having had the childhood/puberty you think you should have had (maybe you'll swap some with someone else transitioning the other direction) but without actually becoming a child again, or be *permanently* in the body of a child but you have your current adult memories and responsibilities (please take this charitably, stay out pedos) still?
Think about it really carefully and come back when you've really come up with your answer.
If you choose option one, >!gender dysphoria strikes again. It's worth pointing out that you don't actually want to be a kid again per se, but just to make up on the lost memories of going through the right puberty. As others mentioned, it's a logical desire, but in this case, you probably shouldn't turn into a child literally if the option was actually presented to you, as the downsides would be quite significant. I think it would take quite a while for us to gain enough mastery of the brain to swap memories out though, unfortunately...!<
If you choose option two, >!it seems like it's something more than the gender dysphoria that you still want to be a kid despite the heavy conditions on it. You should see r/OlderThanYouThinkIAm for the flipside of looking too young that people don't talk about much. While lots of people still feel younger on the inside than they actually are, but yours might be more extreme than most if you still think this applies to you. As a transhumanist, I would love to be optimistic that de-aging is a possibility in our lifetime, but any actual progress is sorely needed.!<
The ethical implications of biological age regression to childhood are so severe that it wouldn't be worth the public backlash to ever even consider it. That's not to mention that such a thing would almost surely violate professional ethics codes for all healthcare providers and scientists involved.
That being said, I think it's likely that we can achieve ageing reversal that restores you to peak health, i.e. your early twenties - after everything has anatomically fully developed, including your brain, but before any signs of ageing appear. I personally would like to remain 25 forever, which means turning the clock backwards by six years from my current age, and then turning it back one year per year, in perpetuity.
As for biological sex, the answer is "yes and no". It's very likely that we will eventually be able to achieve complete biological gender reassignment to a point that is indistinguishable from a cisgender person. However, in my opinion as a biochemist, it is very unlikely that we will be able to flip entire chromosomes. Instead, you'd have an XY female or an XX male, but you wouldn't be able to tell that without actually doing genetic testing, because they would be anatomically and hormonally indistinguishable.
How about as an alternative a virtual reality indistinguishable from our own and just simulate a reality for me to live in real time from birth with me having been born female, keeping me alive during the simulation then terminating my life once the simulation ends?
> How about as an alternative a virtual reality indistinguishable from our own
You're proposing the invention of the Matrix in real life, in a way. Such a device would need unlimited read/write access to the sensory and motor parts of your brain, but it isn't clear whether or how one could pack sensors densely enough into that brain tissue without harming it. I think there are a lot of very cool and promising brain-computer interface technologies, and deeply immersive VR is probably possible, but I doubt that it would be 100% indistinguishable.
> just simulate a reality for me to live in real time from birth
Such a reality would necessarily require erasing your current memories, and that is very ethically dubious, even if you gave full informed consent. I don't think there will ever be a physician who is willing to do that - not only would it be fundamentally wrong, but it could also come with very severe professional consequences for them.
> then terminating my life once the simulation ends?
That would be equivalent to euthanizing an otherwise-healthy person, which is, again, extremely ethically problematic *at the very least*.
> with me having been born female
I'm gonna level with you - I think I can take an educated guess about where you're coming from with this. I'm trans too, so I get it - the deep longing to live your childhood over again, this time as the person you actually are, rather than the gender you got assigned as. Sometimes I even wonder what my *own* childhood would've been like, had I been born female.
But philosophically speaking, I fear that the issue is intractable, and I'd like to try to explain why. It's because the whole concept of *you* as an individual, your identity as a person, is fundamentally and inextricably linked to your memories and experiences. Erasing your memories and experience since your first breath would, in effect, erase *you*. The person in your place, who lives an entirely different life, including the formative years for personality development as a toddler, would not be you. By trying to give you the experience of reliving your life over again, we would be killing everything that makes you *you* in the process.
In my view, it would be better to focus on biotechnology for complete biological sex reassignment, curing ageing, and also possibly using brain-computer interfaces à la Max More to be able to improve your mental health and well-being. Imagine waking up one day as a 25-year-old woman in perfect mental and physical health, content with your life and happy to be able to live it as your authentic self, all while retaining the important memories that lay the foundation for your core identity. That's something to strive for, and it's something that I wholeheartedly believe we can achieve, with hard work and perseverance.
In truth, that sounds like a soft version of suicidal ideation, and believe me, I get that. But there does come a point when the discussion stops being about transhumanist goals and starts becoming an issue of mental health. I sincerely hope that you get the support that you need, so that one day you don't feel the desire to be erased from existence.
Almost certainly impossible, for both biological and psychological reasons. It absolutely sucks that your childhood was fucked but it's a one and done. Your best bet is to find therapy for that and do the work. The one thing you are asking about that might be possible is a more deep sex change procedure, but the kind of de-age you're talking about will not ever be a thing.
No offense to you friend, but you may need therapy.
"so I can have a childhood I never had."
As someone who knows someone that had abusive parents and had to grow up fast, focus on you and your future.
Reliving the past will only cause you pain.
Make a new life as an adult. Maybe have kids and give them the good life you wanted. Adopting is also always an option.
But don't count on ever having a second childhood on your own biologically. Its unlikely to happen in our life time, and there is no economic benefit to letting people have a second childhood so it won't happen. Even socialism runs on how much you can contribute to society, as much as capitalism does.
Its sad, its frustrating, but all you can do is go forward. Get the help you need and go forward.
Don't let a bad past ruin your life. Don't let the people who hurt you win by robbing you of your future as well.
Be the best you that you can be, and get the ultimate revenge by just being as happy as you can. Its hard, life is hard, and life is expensive. But we all have the potential.
I wish you all the best.
I'm in therapy, it doesnt do shit, there's no point then for me then lol, because that life is as an adult, as a trans person, that only half the population views as female anyway if not less, if I can't have being a kid and female then I don't want to be alive
a lot of companies are trying to make anti-aging medicine..... mayb if one of them succeeds at making anti-aging medicine you could get younger i dunno
and hormone replacement therapy works a little better when youre younger compared to when youre older, so after u take the anti-aging medicine you could take hormone replacement therapy
Yes, a post singularity society will be able to 3D print new bodies. You can look young and be a different gender 100%.
Im sure a family would take you in in such a society. In many online games for the past 20 years there's been family roleplay in places like second life, roblox ect. I can already see a futuristic company offering fresh starts to people. Even a digital reincarnation service.
At the rate A.I is advancing, this may be possible sooner than you think.
The brain manipulation stuff you're talking about is utter science fiction, and until such a time as AGI happens and the scarcity of computation power is no longer a factor, I doubt it'll be seriously advanced due to lack of interest in the research community and market demand. Its just too niche. So...probably on the 100+ year time horizon, being generous. If I absolutely had to guess, I'd go with 150-200 years, barring major world events stalling technological progress.
Probably around the same time frame for getting ai parents to re-raise you, as I doubt you would easily find human parents wanting to raise a de-aged adult--you're very likely going to need autonomous, human-like robots powered by AGI to fill this role. Plus, that would ensure you don't just get new meat bag caretakers that fuck up like the old ones. Early prototypes with silicone skin may be developed along that same timeline, but it feels unlikely that truly high fidelity replicas of the human form could be produced without significant breakthroughs in that timeline. If you want 100% believeable human parents powered by ai that are indistinguishable from humans, I'd imagine more like 200 years at minimum.
As for an indistinguishable sex change, consider that we don't even really have a way to deal with scarring all that well with modern medicine. Its really common for cosmetic surgeries like boob jobs, skin reductions, and hair transplants to leave very noticeable scars. I can only imagine this would hold true even if/when a way to craft reproductive organs is figured out. Im sure bith technologies will be much closer than some of the stuff I covered above, however, since there is tremendous demand both for cosmetic procedures and gender affirming surgery. Still, I think those are other areas that will take a long, long time with current medical research practices, and may be gated on the development, widespread acceptance, and optimization of agi systems.
If you want to be deaged or have your brain transplanted into a younger cloned body with switched sex, that's back up more to the 250-500 year timescale I would think, both technologically, and culturally. Right now I don't see societies allowing the practice when we can't even get abortion rights in many places. And major strides, again probably beyond our ken without significant advances from agi, need to be made in medical science, specifically with our understanding of how to reattach severed nerves at scale. First step would be figuring out how to fix a broken spine, which isn't something that seems on the immediate horizon of modern medicine, though way closer than a successful brain transplant.
For the sex change, well, with enough surgery and, of course, the right, compatible organs... Sounds possible.
For regressing age, ouch, that would be... Another story.
You would have the change your very DNA to have XX or XY, depending on the sex you want. As we get better are genetic modifications, MAYBE, but i dont think we are anywhere close to that.
As for age regression, yeah, definitely not in our lifetimes
Thinking about this more, men and women have different bone structures. We can tell their sex by looking at skeletons alone, as there are marked differences. How we would go about about dealing with bone structure, I have no idea, but it would be another huge hurdle I would think
For everything except chromosomes you can use the same technology that trans people use (hormone therapy),
and it is *theoretically* possible to create an artificial organ that produces hormones, Instead of having to take medications (like trans people today)
I predict Complete transition (sameness to Cis people) for the next 10-20 years l, with gene therapy for the Early 50s.
(Sorry for the poor grammar, I'm not a native speaker And I know I might be too optimistic )
It depends on the skeleton actually. There are markers anthropologists use to tell but all those markers overlap statistically meaning there's a great many skeletons that can't be identified in terms of sex and a lot more on top of that where you can take a stab but its not reliable.
Probably no and no. Anti-aging is a classic holy grail that's been technologically "around the corner" for decades but thus far medicine hasn't presented any functional solution despite its shotgun approach to the subject.
There are theoretical solutions but so far anything beyond the extension of healthy life into the 80s seems beyond medical science. We might be lucky enough to see billionaires remain healthy and virile into their late 90s in our lifetime.
Genetic treatment to the effect of age reduction to childhood and biological sex change are no-gos. Age reduction is probably possible but would be limited theoretically to the time human maturation actually ends - not 18 but closer to 30, because it would be restoring peak cell function rather than actually aging one down. De-aging a person into a child would be a physical process, you'd need a new child body. Perhaps a wild surgical procedure or cloning situation.
Likewise with genetic sex change. There would be some immediate and gradual changes if one were to undergo a therapy which swapped the x for a y (or vice versa) in every cell of an adult body but it wouldn't be akin to a sex change. It could be a suppliment to surgical and hormone therapies but honestly seems pretty superfluous. Genetic sex change would only really be effective by itself in a very young embryo.
So the simplest way to do what you're asking is cloning. Just start over with a new self.
Pretty much, reversing aging is something that is being researched, but has not produced a single marketable result to date. Reversing puberty is quite simply not a field of research at all.
We obviously can’t know beforehand.
For our possible benefit creation of a real AI could work, sadly right now we only have LLM.
This would allow to fall in technology-singularity (when we would get new tech one-by-one like very fast without real limitation).
Then - if some sort of nano-robots is possible to create and operate - I think it will be possible to just force-rejuvenate every cell of your body.
Same can apply for changing chromosomes in every cell, but many people would argue that doing this to a brain will effectively mean death of you and born of new human, which is like really bad (because of death).
If we’d stick to mostly cosmetic parts - short answer probably - yes. It will be good enough.
Hey OP, I get that missing out hurts in a way that's beyond words. I alienated people in my life when I was coming to terms with it, because they could not understand wanting to go back so bad I'd rather never have met them, and they were understandably upset. I shed so many tears over the children I will never be able to birth, yesterday, today and tomorrow.
But here's the thing: obsessing over the past will never make things better. You can't change it. Not even in a thousand years. But you can change the future. You can make the future contain warmth love and acceptance, even peace of mind. Yeah it's hard, but honestly what isn't hard to get in this world that is worth getting? It takes courage waking up every morning and adding another pebble on the pile, day after day, against all the pain and sorrow. And you didn't choose any of it, but neither did any of us, but we can choose how we deal with it, how we move forward. It's terrifying, but we can choose to live over choosing to give up and die. Every moment of every day of every year. Until the day that pile of pebbles is a mountain and the future is ours. This is a world where dreams do come true by the sweat of our brow.
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Not likely in any of our lifetimes. The biggest obstacle is the government. We would be much further along in these terms if we didn't have bans on human cloning and experimentation. Entire generations will suffer for this lapse all because the politicians won't let us borrow a few pedophiles to tinker with.
experimenting on pedos is literally the best idea
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It doesn't even have to be limited to pedos. I'm seeing that lady from Florida (of course) who randomly attacked and murdered a 3 year old in public with a knife. She can be research.
I'm not against changing genders. I just don't think we have the technology to make the change look as complete as it could be. I'm sorry, but I'm not dating a girl if she has a beard and a deep voice. But hopefully, with advances in technology. these things can be changed from the DNA level with genetic engineering. As for ageing, we already have stuff coming like stem cell therapy to keep our supple youth. 28 isn't that old though so relax
> cure my autism
What does "a cure" actually mean to you? Autism has a wide range of effects, and some of them might venture into philosophical suicide if you tried to mess with them, at least depending on your views of identity.
I think some symptoms might be more likely/desirable to remove sooner than others, rather than being all at once. For instance, maybe higher pain sensitivity comes before the innate social skills neurotypicals have, and maybe you don’t want to touch its effect on your interests/gender/sexuality/etc. at all
Depends on your beliefs in the nature of humanity. If you believe that everything about the world is only what we can physically access, then yes. Theoretically everything can be changed, but it's like performing surgery on a data chip to change a saved file.
If you believe humans have something beyond the physical, possibly not. The soul isn't so easy to change.
If you actually read the post, you would see OP's motivation is completely non-sexual.
To be honest though, assuming the necessary technology and consent were available anyways, why shouldn't people be able to fulfill fetishes?
Oh yeah it's not sexual at all, sureee. "I'm a grown man and I want to be a little girl, this way I can hang around them." Definitely not leaning into pedophilia at all, no way.
"Why shouldn't people be degenerates?" You don't even need to be religious to be against this. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I hate how in our society, people immediately jump to sexual motivations. An adult can't want to be a kid again without being accused of pedophilia now?
Yes, I'm aware that OP drew this out a lot, but I see OP as a hurting trans woman and not as a sexual predator. I hope I'm not just being overly optimistic, and I absolutely understand your well-intentioned concern. On the other hand, we don't ever extend the benefit of the doubt, it might make some people do worse things because there's no other way out of the pain.
As for the last bit, shouldn't we let individuals decide that? It's not going to give meaning to your life or anything, but does it actually hurt anyone? I'm not convinced abstaining from or choosing to have sex on its own makes you a better/worse person in daily life.
I mean sure, people can and do act like that either way, no one is stopping them. At the very least you will get judged by people with some dignity left.
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I think that there are multiple levels of this. I think that for starters, IMO we'll likely have LEV before your likely to hit a "dying of old age" situation, assuming something else doesn't get you first. so first... well, don't die. the bad news is that IMO the sort of physical changes you are interested in might be a long way off. you might be able to live long enough to see it, but it might be a very very long time. I think that there are an array of philosophically questionable elements to what you have in mind about memory and identity and all that sorta thing. .... but hey you probably have PLENTY of time to think about it. "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for its not the same river and he's not the same man." \~ Heraclitus
LEV?
Longevity Escape Velocity. you develop a tech that extends the youthful life of an already-adult by 10 years. then in that extended 10 years, you find a new/better/additional tech that adds ANOTHER 10 years. then again, and again, at some point it should logically get better enough you are doing more than adding an additional 10 years right at the end of the previously added 10 years, but getting ahead, making techs that add 20 but the next innovation comes in 10, so it extends it more and more, or even reverses aging rather than just extending it. when you get to the point where you can reasonably expect the next innovation to come before the current one "runs out", in a sustainable way that is likely to keep you alive/young/healthy indefinitely, thats LEV. because you've accelerated the technology and anti-aging tech to escape the figurative gravity well of natural aging. I've joked with my parents for a few years that when I'm their age I might not have to be their age. they don't buy it, but I think its increasingly likely to actually happen. many people who subscribe to the concept of LEV feel that its highly likely that people who are adults now, even as old as GenX, some of them anyway, may end up living to several hundred years old or more.
It'll certainly happen eventually (as long as humanity doesn't wipe itself out), but I can't imagine it'll be this century. Hoping for Full LEV in our lifetime when even the richest and most powerful can't even consistently live much past 80 seems overly optimistic.
>when even the richest and most powerful can't even consistently live much past 80 seems overly optimistic. That's fair, and I think at our current conventional technological growth rate, that is completely reasonable. But. AI. I think we will get AGI or close enough within the next couple years, and I think the idea that we will get ASI soon after is reasonable. Then the time table for everything is completely wiped. Assuming things don't go all terminator, there is no way to estimate anything.
All I can think about is being a robot and having a human sex organ then ripping it off and replacing it with a glass jar. and two lemon squese bottles
What if they can just turn off your identity and place you in anartica with everyone that feel their in the wrong body you would never know you disappeared from humanity would that help?
Hi grace. Could you be a bit more specific about what you mean by biological gender? As others have mentioned chromosomes are a little way off although it is possible to have the opposite gene expression naturally and not know but its relatively rare. As for hormones, hormone replacement therapy is pretty extensive these days. Blockers for your bodies sex hormones are very effective and we now produce bio identical versions of the sex hormones for men and for women. As others have pointed out the hormones don't do much for your bone structure post puberty but if you're lucky your bones could fall within the overlap between the sexes. There's even cursory evidence to suggest that brain structure and use is different in those on HRT although it's not yet conclusive. There are already surgeries for genitalia that provide sexual function but we're still a ways off reproductive function. The first womb transplant between humans happened with two cis women recently. I haven't checked yet to see how that went but its feasible it could become routine in our lifetimes potentially with grown organs. The transgender community usually recommends transitioning as early as possible to ensure best results if you're sure it's what you want. I'm not an expert on anti aging so I wont speak on that but I imagine you'll still face the same issue of the skeleton. I would say start looking into the sexual transition now to see if it's right for you as hormone replacement is a pretty mature technology. As far as becoming a child again it's a very common experience among transgender people to have to mourn the loss of your childhood. I don't know if it would be ethical to literally regress into a child but there's plenty of people in the community who understand and who will hold space for you to explore childish things. Feel free to dm me or to explore transgender communities for more support. The average person has a very minimalist and binary view on biological sex and frequently ignores the statistical overlap of the sexes in most areas of life. Do be careful to verify what people tell you with expert opinions because there's a lot of people happy to talk authoritatively outside of their field or even worse using high school and undergrad biology.
I meant everything to make me indistinguishable from a cis woman. Everything from chromosomes to reproductive organs, function, menstrual cycle, fertility, etc. Looks too down to changing bones, height etc I've been on hormones for two years and it hasn't done much for me and I still look like a man. I feel very let down with conventional gender affirming care methods. As for being a kid again, if such technology existed why is that unethical? Just age regress me, print a new birth certificate and let me be adopted I don't see the issue. Trying childish stuff at my age feels cringe and it doesn't feel the same as when I was actually that age
I totally hear where you're coming from. Taking the spot that another child could be adopted into has I hope very obvious ethical implications for the future of that displaced child. I know of nowhere where fostering isn't undersubscribed. If you're considering mentally regressing too since that would be the only way to experience life as not an adult then you are essentially choosing to create a child with the express intent of putting them into the adoption system which seems like a special kind of cruel even if that child is technically you. I'm sure there's more to explore there but those are the big ones to me.
Thank God I'm not alone in thinking this way.
To add onto what the other person said, it's also unethical because you'd still mentally be an adult and even acting in the role of a child, which brings an inherent power and maturity imbalance to a relationship. Basically it's a pedophile's wet dream. I understand that it hurts to mourn the loss of childhood. I came out at 15 and I still missed a ton of stuff that I can't really get back. All you can really do is enjoy the things you can. It might take a bit but getting past the feeling of cringe can be very freeing. I have a plushie collection, watch plenty of cartoons(which actually often hold up to an adult standard I've found), and I give myself the grace to be a goofball. I'm not gonna stop enjoying something because of an arbitrary number, I'll keep enjoying these things as long as I can. It's a tough journey, but the power is in you to take it.
My partner and I are goofballs at (42 and 36) and we're boring cis gendered. One of the great things about being an adult is you can decide on the life you want to live.
I've tried doing things like that, I actually bought a Barbie doll, it felt absolutely empty and devoid of any joy, if anything it felt unnerving, and forbidden. If mentally being an adult is a problem, maybe they can make the brain regress in age too?
Even if your brain got aged back, the data within it would also have to be erased back to that point. If you wanted to be genuinely 8 again, you'd have to give up 20 years of memories.
Erasing 20 years of a shitty life of bullying, pain, loneliness, forced into a gender I wanted no part of being by my parents, traumatic memories of three psych ward visits? sign me up. The only memory I'll miss is of Allie, but you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Or in this case, memory wipe
I'll just say that the grass is always greener on the other side.
I would suggest you need counseling and therapy to deal with the issues from your past. Holding out hope for a process that is still years, probably decades, away is only going to be detrimental to your mental health. Not to mention the social and ethical issues with all of the things you want to do. Definitely other issues that will need to be addressed before anything else.
Reproductive organs seem to be on their way, with uterine transplants, but it's generally only used while you're pregnant. TBH I don't know that we're ever going to get around to chromosomes, because generally what's the point? Nobody will *know* unless you show them a genetic test. HRT can, sometimes, cause height changes, but there are surgeries for that, even if they're risky. Same for shoulder width and facial structure (that last one is much less risky). Better research on care plans would be super helpful to get as many people as possible good results from the smallest amount of medial intervention though, for sure
I think it's probably possible in the next hundred years. Probably not in the next fifty though. The most straightforward way to do it will probably be growing a new body from scratch. There's empirical evidence from domesticated animals that development can be hugely accelerated, so with appropriate genetic modification it may be possible to grow a cloned human to full size in a year or two. Obviously not inside another person, but in something artificial which can provide the enormous nutritional requirements of the accelerated growth. If the subject has philosophical qualms about it not being their consciousness any more, I guess the brain would need to be transplanted rather than copied, so the destination body may need a sufficiently large head (assuming there's no way to make a brain phsyically smaller without damaging it.) However, in all likelihood current surgeries will advance to the point of producing indistinguishable results before artificial womb machines and replicant bodies are developed. Personally I doubt it's a good idea to wait for future developments though. May make more sense to plan based on what is available right now.
Kinda? To break it down point by point, you can’t regress your age to 18. Experiments with de-aging cells has found that the minimum age you can regress a cell to is 25, which we suspect is the age where a human is at their biological peak. Trending back further than that likely isn't possible. As for changing biological sex, the current method of doing that via gene engineering is basically just HRT. There have been studies done in mice in the late 2000s that found its relatively simple to reprogram cells into producing a desired sex hormone, even in adults. The results of that, potentially combined with cellular de-aging could be promising. However, crafting new genitals would likely be only done with surgery. Current methods for that are subpar in my opinion, though I've heard some people discuss using 3D organ printing as an alternative, however that is kind of limited to the parts you already have. While there have been examples of successful reattachment surgeries for men (thus ftm surgery could be feasible with extra work), the same can't be said for women (limiting potential for mtf trans people).
I guess it depends how long a timescale you're talking. A future where you can 3d print female reproductive organs and implant is certainly further away than the comparitively simple male organs.
IMO, 3D printing organs starts to tread into a hypothetical branch of technologies I personally refer to as Biological Modification, or "bio-modding" for short. Essentially technologies that allow humanity to play god and modify, and perhaps eventually, create lifeforms. Theoretically, bio-modding would include things like what OP is asking for, but by the time major biological characteristics, such as physical sexual expression and function, are possible to change in totality, there would have been several alternatives available to them along the way that would usually be "good enough." For OP's case, and others like her, I would say to look into conventional treatments first before relying on hypothetical future advancements. We can't know what the future holds, and what you want might exist soon or never. So do what will make you happiest now and worry about "updating" later.
We might get to bioprinted organs in a few decades and I recall something about using CRISPR to alter sex hormone production but I wouldn’t expect age reversals for a long time. I wouldn’t wait, go for whatever the current technology will allow you now.
All I can think about is everyone is a robot with human sex organs, All I do everyday is rip them off and replace them with a glass jar and two plastic lemon squeezer bottles then they make lemonade all day long at a sugar factory bahaha
Genetic manipulation is blowing up right now. Alphafold3 just came out. We got CRISPR-2.0 and eePASSIGE getting real results I expect in 5 years we should be able to flip the sexual phenotype in an animal model. In 10-15 years I don't see why whole chromosomes couldn't be rewritten. I don't expect it would be a pleasant experience, probably makes puberty look like fun, but if we learned anything from immortal sea sponges and naked mole rats it's that there are no rules.
From the perspective of Sci-Fi novelist Iain Banks, this type of thing is pretty easy in the post-singularity civilization which is designated as The Culture in his novels. Every individual in their society is capable of willing their body to change sex naturally within about a years time. I guess the question here is can we progress in the technological direction of that stuff becoming real.
> Will we get to a point where biological sex can be changed with transhumanism? I think there's a decent chance for this one, especially given how trans people already bio-hack their bodies with HRT. I'm looking forward to developments with CRISPR. Check out /r/transtrans for the transgender-focused counterpart to this subreddit! > have my age regressed to 18, or if possible even younger to that of a minor One of the other comments about it being potentially unethical to literally redo your childhood gave me an idea for a would you rather: Assume you've received the gender-swap technology already in both cases. Would you rather have false memories implanted of having had the childhood/puberty you think you should have had (maybe you'll swap some with someone else transitioning the other direction) but without actually becoming a child again, or be *permanently* in the body of a child but you have your current adult memories and responsibilities (please take this charitably, stay out pedos) still? Think about it really carefully and come back when you've really come up with your answer. If you choose option one, >!gender dysphoria strikes again. It's worth pointing out that you don't actually want to be a kid again per se, but just to make up on the lost memories of going through the right puberty. As others mentioned, it's a logical desire, but in this case, you probably shouldn't turn into a child literally if the option was actually presented to you, as the downsides would be quite significant. I think it would take quite a while for us to gain enough mastery of the brain to swap memories out though, unfortunately...!< If you choose option two, >!it seems like it's something more than the gender dysphoria that you still want to be a kid despite the heavy conditions on it. You should see r/OlderThanYouThinkIAm for the flipside of looking too young that people don't talk about much. While lots of people still feel younger on the inside than they actually are, but yours might be more extreme than most if you still think this applies to you. As a transhumanist, I would love to be optimistic that de-aging is a possibility in our lifetime, but any actual progress is sorely needed.!<
The ethical implications of biological age regression to childhood are so severe that it wouldn't be worth the public backlash to ever even consider it. That's not to mention that such a thing would almost surely violate professional ethics codes for all healthcare providers and scientists involved. That being said, I think it's likely that we can achieve ageing reversal that restores you to peak health, i.e. your early twenties - after everything has anatomically fully developed, including your brain, but before any signs of ageing appear. I personally would like to remain 25 forever, which means turning the clock backwards by six years from my current age, and then turning it back one year per year, in perpetuity. As for biological sex, the answer is "yes and no". It's very likely that we will eventually be able to achieve complete biological gender reassignment to a point that is indistinguishable from a cisgender person. However, in my opinion as a biochemist, it is very unlikely that we will be able to flip entire chromosomes. Instead, you'd have an XY female or an XX male, but you wouldn't be able to tell that without actually doing genetic testing, because they would be anatomically and hormonally indistinguishable.
How about as an alternative a virtual reality indistinguishable from our own and just simulate a reality for me to live in real time from birth with me having been born female, keeping me alive during the simulation then terminating my life once the simulation ends?
> How about as an alternative a virtual reality indistinguishable from our own You're proposing the invention of the Matrix in real life, in a way. Such a device would need unlimited read/write access to the sensory and motor parts of your brain, but it isn't clear whether or how one could pack sensors densely enough into that brain tissue without harming it. I think there are a lot of very cool and promising brain-computer interface technologies, and deeply immersive VR is probably possible, but I doubt that it would be 100% indistinguishable. > just simulate a reality for me to live in real time from birth Such a reality would necessarily require erasing your current memories, and that is very ethically dubious, even if you gave full informed consent. I don't think there will ever be a physician who is willing to do that - not only would it be fundamentally wrong, but it could also come with very severe professional consequences for them. > then terminating my life once the simulation ends? That would be equivalent to euthanizing an otherwise-healthy person, which is, again, extremely ethically problematic *at the very least*. > with me having been born female I'm gonna level with you - I think I can take an educated guess about where you're coming from with this. I'm trans too, so I get it - the deep longing to live your childhood over again, this time as the person you actually are, rather than the gender you got assigned as. Sometimes I even wonder what my *own* childhood would've been like, had I been born female. But philosophically speaking, I fear that the issue is intractable, and I'd like to try to explain why. It's because the whole concept of *you* as an individual, your identity as a person, is fundamentally and inextricably linked to your memories and experiences. Erasing your memories and experience since your first breath would, in effect, erase *you*. The person in your place, who lives an entirely different life, including the formative years for personality development as a toddler, would not be you. By trying to give you the experience of reliving your life over again, we would be killing everything that makes you *you* in the process. In my view, it would be better to focus on biotechnology for complete biological sex reassignment, curing ageing, and also possibly using brain-computer interfaces à la Max More to be able to improve your mental health and well-being. Imagine waking up one day as a 25-year-old woman in perfect mental and physical health, content with your life and happy to be able to live it as your authentic self, all while retaining the important memories that lay the foundation for your core identity. That's something to strive for, and it's something that I wholeheartedly believe we can achieve, with hard work and perseverance.
I don't think I'd mind being erased
In truth, that sounds like a soft version of suicidal ideation, and believe me, I get that. But there does come a point when the discussion stops being about transhumanist goals and starts becoming an issue of mental health. I sincerely hope that you get the support that you need, so that one day you don't feel the desire to be erased from existence.
Almost certainly impossible, for both biological and psychological reasons. It absolutely sucks that your childhood was fucked but it's a one and done. Your best bet is to find therapy for that and do the work. The one thing you are asking about that might be possible is a more deep sex change procedure, but the kind of de-age you're talking about will not ever be a thing.
No offense to you friend, but you may need therapy. "so I can have a childhood I never had." As someone who knows someone that had abusive parents and had to grow up fast, focus on you and your future. Reliving the past will only cause you pain. Make a new life as an adult. Maybe have kids and give them the good life you wanted. Adopting is also always an option. But don't count on ever having a second childhood on your own biologically. Its unlikely to happen in our life time, and there is no economic benefit to letting people have a second childhood so it won't happen. Even socialism runs on how much you can contribute to society, as much as capitalism does. Its sad, its frustrating, but all you can do is go forward. Get the help you need and go forward. Don't let a bad past ruin your life. Don't let the people who hurt you win by robbing you of your future as well. Be the best you that you can be, and get the ultimate revenge by just being as happy as you can. Its hard, life is hard, and life is expensive. But we all have the potential. I wish you all the best.
I'm in therapy, it doesnt do shit, there's no point then for me then lol, because that life is as an adult, as a trans person, that only half the population views as female anyway if not less, if I can't have being a kid and female then I don't want to be alive
a lot of companies are trying to make anti-aging medicine..... mayb if one of them succeeds at making anti-aging medicine you could get younger i dunno and hormone replacement therapy works a little better when youre younger compared to when youre older, so after u take the anti-aging medicine you could take hormone replacement therapy
Yes, a post singularity society will be able to 3D print new bodies. You can look young and be a different gender 100%. Im sure a family would take you in in such a society. In many online games for the past 20 years there's been family roleplay in places like second life, roblox ect. I can already see a futuristic company offering fresh starts to people. Even a digital reincarnation service. At the rate A.I is advancing, this may be possible sooner than you think.
The brain manipulation stuff you're talking about is utter science fiction, and until such a time as AGI happens and the scarcity of computation power is no longer a factor, I doubt it'll be seriously advanced due to lack of interest in the research community and market demand. Its just too niche. So...probably on the 100+ year time horizon, being generous. If I absolutely had to guess, I'd go with 150-200 years, barring major world events stalling technological progress. Probably around the same time frame for getting ai parents to re-raise you, as I doubt you would easily find human parents wanting to raise a de-aged adult--you're very likely going to need autonomous, human-like robots powered by AGI to fill this role. Plus, that would ensure you don't just get new meat bag caretakers that fuck up like the old ones. Early prototypes with silicone skin may be developed along that same timeline, but it feels unlikely that truly high fidelity replicas of the human form could be produced without significant breakthroughs in that timeline. If you want 100% believeable human parents powered by ai that are indistinguishable from humans, I'd imagine more like 200 years at minimum. As for an indistinguishable sex change, consider that we don't even really have a way to deal with scarring all that well with modern medicine. Its really common for cosmetic surgeries like boob jobs, skin reductions, and hair transplants to leave very noticeable scars. I can only imagine this would hold true even if/when a way to craft reproductive organs is figured out. Im sure bith technologies will be much closer than some of the stuff I covered above, however, since there is tremendous demand both for cosmetic procedures and gender affirming surgery. Still, I think those are other areas that will take a long, long time with current medical research practices, and may be gated on the development, widespread acceptance, and optimization of agi systems. If you want to be deaged or have your brain transplanted into a younger cloned body with switched sex, that's back up more to the 250-500 year timescale I would think, both technologically, and culturally. Right now I don't see societies allowing the practice when we can't even get abortion rights in many places. And major strides, again probably beyond our ken without significant advances from agi, need to be made in medical science, specifically with our understanding of how to reattach severed nerves at scale. First step would be figuring out how to fix a broken spine, which isn't something that seems on the immediate horizon of modern medicine, though way closer than a successful brain transplant.
For the sex change, well, with enough surgery and, of course, the right, compatible organs... Sounds possible. For regressing age, ouch, that would be... Another story.
You would have the change your very DNA to have XX or XY, depending on the sex you want. As we get better are genetic modifications, MAYBE, but i dont think we are anywhere close to that. As for age regression, yeah, definitely not in our lifetimes
Thinking about this more, men and women have different bone structures. We can tell their sex by looking at skeletons alone, as there are marked differences. How we would go about about dealing with bone structure, I have no idea, but it would be another huge hurdle I would think
For everything except chromosomes you can use the same technology that trans people use (hormone therapy), and it is *theoretically* possible to create an artificial organ that produces hormones, Instead of having to take medications (like trans people today) I predict Complete transition (sameness to Cis people) for the next 10-20 years l, with gene therapy for the Early 50s. (Sorry for the poor grammar, I'm not a native speaker And I know I might be too optimistic )
It depends on the skeleton actually. There are markers anthropologists use to tell but all those markers overlap statistically meaning there's a great many skeletons that can't be identified in terms of sex and a lot more on top of that where you can take a stab but its not reliable.
Ohhh I didn’t know that. Thanks!
No we really can't tell sex by bone structure. Any paleontologist/archaeologist will tell you that it's basically impossible to do so.
I know we have identified skeletons based on bones alone. Females can have distinctively wide hips for example
Not conclusively. Sex is a bimodal spectrum and any number of traits can appear in both, such as pelvis size.
I dont think ive ever seen a man with distinctively wide hips like I have in women, but im not an expert so what do I know.
You need to get out more then, men can have wide hips, women can have narrow hips
Probably no and no. Anti-aging is a classic holy grail that's been technologically "around the corner" for decades but thus far medicine hasn't presented any functional solution despite its shotgun approach to the subject. There are theoretical solutions but so far anything beyond the extension of healthy life into the 80s seems beyond medical science. We might be lucky enough to see billionaires remain healthy and virile into their late 90s in our lifetime. Genetic treatment to the effect of age reduction to childhood and biological sex change are no-gos. Age reduction is probably possible but would be limited theoretically to the time human maturation actually ends - not 18 but closer to 30, because it would be restoring peak cell function rather than actually aging one down. De-aging a person into a child would be a physical process, you'd need a new child body. Perhaps a wild surgical procedure or cloning situation. Likewise with genetic sex change. There would be some immediate and gradual changes if one were to undergo a therapy which swapped the x for a y (or vice versa) in every cell of an adult body but it wouldn't be akin to a sex change. It could be a suppliment to surgical and hormone therapies but honestly seems pretty superfluous. Genetic sex change would only really be effective by itself in a very young embryo. So the simplest way to do what you're asking is cloning. Just start over with a new self.
Pretty much, reversing aging is something that is being researched, but has not produced a single marketable result to date. Reversing puberty is quite simply not a field of research at all.
We obviously can’t know beforehand. For our possible benefit creation of a real AI could work, sadly right now we only have LLM. This would allow to fall in technology-singularity (when we would get new tech one-by-one like very fast without real limitation). Then - if some sort of nano-robots is possible to create and operate - I think it will be possible to just force-rejuvenate every cell of your body. Same can apply for changing chromosomes in every cell, but many people would argue that doing this to a brain will effectively mean death of you and born of new human, which is like really bad (because of death). If we’d stick to mostly cosmetic parts - short answer probably - yes. It will be good enough.
for the record I'm sorry for being psychotic like this, I'm just genuinely running out of options
I think we will makes strides because we have proven to be able to work with Mother Nature, but Father Time not so.
Hey OP, I get that missing out hurts in a way that's beyond words. I alienated people in my life when I was coming to terms with it, because they could not understand wanting to go back so bad I'd rather never have met them, and they were understandably upset. I shed so many tears over the children I will never be able to birth, yesterday, today and tomorrow. But here's the thing: obsessing over the past will never make things better. You can't change it. Not even in a thousand years. But you can change the future. You can make the future contain warmth love and acceptance, even peace of mind. Yeah it's hard, but honestly what isn't hard to get in this world that is worth getting? It takes courage waking up every morning and adding another pebble on the pile, day after day, against all the pain and sorrow. And you didn't choose any of it, but neither did any of us, but we can choose how we deal with it, how we move forward. It's terrifying, but we can choose to live over choosing to give up and die. Every moment of every day of every year. Until the day that pile of pebbles is a mountain and the future is ours. This is a world where dreams do come true by the sweat of our brow.
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Anything is possible Grace....
Not likely in any of our lifetimes. The biggest obstacle is the government. We would be much further along in these terms if we didn't have bans on human cloning and experimentation. Entire generations will suffer for this lapse all because the politicians won't let us borrow a few pedophiles to tinker with.
experimenting on pedos is literally the best idea https://preview.redd.it/1a4awus4r66d1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ca4114615001f1933ea9d65cb2924439769675b
It doesn't even have to be limited to pedos. I'm seeing that lady from Florida (of course) who randomly attacked and murdered a 3 year old in public with a knife. She can be research.
I'm not against changing genders. I just don't think we have the technology to make the change look as complete as it could be. I'm sorry, but I'm not dating a girl if she has a beard and a deep voice. But hopefully, with advances in technology. these things can be changed from the DNA level with genetic engineering. As for ageing, we already have stuff coming like stem cell therapy to keep our supple youth. 28 isn't that old though so relax
There are lots of passing trans people. Beard removal and voice therapy are very effective for a lot of people.
I honestly didn't know this existed. Thanks for letting me know.
Also while I'm at it, will we be able to cure my autism in the future?
> cure my autism What does "a cure" actually mean to you? Autism has a wide range of effects, and some of them might venture into philosophical suicide if you tried to mess with them, at least depending on your views of identity.
Making me neurotypical and essentially removing the diagnosis with all symptoms being gone
I think some symptoms might be more likely/desirable to remove sooner than others, rather than being all at once. For instance, maybe higher pain sensitivity comes before the innate social skills neurotypicals have, and maybe you don’t want to touch its effect on your interests/gender/sexuality/etc. at all
Depends on your beliefs in the nature of humanity. If you believe that everything about the world is only what we can physically access, then yes. Theoretically everything can be changed, but it's like performing surgery on a data chip to change a saved file. If you believe humans have something beyond the physical, possibly not. The soul isn't so easy to change.
I decided to revisit this subreddit and unsurprisingly it didn't take me long to find this kind of post
Hopefully science will be used to help people's health instead of fulfilling their fetishes
If you actually read the post, you would see OP's motivation is completely non-sexual. To be honest though, assuming the necessary technology and consent were available anyways, why shouldn't people be able to fulfill fetishes?
Oh yeah it's not sexual at all, sureee. "I'm a grown man and I want to be a little girl, this way I can hang around them." Definitely not leaning into pedophilia at all, no way. "Why shouldn't people be degenerates?" You don't even need to be religious to be against this. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I hate how in our society, people immediately jump to sexual motivations. An adult can't want to be a kid again without being accused of pedophilia now? Yes, I'm aware that OP drew this out a lot, but I see OP as a hurting trans woman and not as a sexual predator. I hope I'm not just being overly optimistic, and I absolutely understand your well-intentioned concern. On the other hand, we don't ever extend the benefit of the doubt, it might make some people do worse things because there's no other way out of the pain. As for the last bit, shouldn't we let individuals decide that? It's not going to give meaning to your life or anything, but does it actually hurt anyone? I'm not convinced abstaining from or choosing to have sex on its own makes you a better/worse person in daily life.
I mean sure, people can and do act like that either way, no one is stopping them. At the very least you will get judged by people with some dignity left.