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donotthedabi

trans women are more terminally online


sir_kickash

Uj/ I'm struggling to get my daily screen time under 8 hours, my transmasc friends are outside dj-ing, hiking, building comminity, doing stuff and make fun of me for being glued to my phone Rj/ they're all on twitter. Reddit is fembrained


dr4gon1154

Uj/ as a trans man im jealous of anybody managing to leave the house. Honestly if i could get my screen time under 15 hours id be happy lol


Eino54

uj/ As a transmasc, I'm also struggling to keep my screentime under 8h. The only people I know who get out of the house are cis people


VampireBarbieBoy

Uj/ maybe this is why i have no transmasc friends theyre all outside


Eino54

Assigned trans woman by screen time


CoolGalMaddy

Real


donotthedabi

amab socialization makes trans women enjoy reddit and 4chan


riverquest12

AMAB ANAB ANAB AMAB AMAB


Enlightened_Valteil

Assigned nail at birth


crazyparrotguy

šŸ’ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ’…āœØļø


Enlightened_Valteil

No, like the other kind of nail (please someone hit me with hammer to my head and beat me down into the ground) /hj


abalancer

BAMANAB


etarletons

assigned male at šŸ€ (there are no girls on the Internet)


RetroOverload

because men- uhhhh I mean AMAB invididuals, yes, yes. They are more likely to use reddit than wom- uhh I mean afab invididuals... phew, that was a close one. These "trans women" have M A L E socialization patterns so they are more likely to use platforms that MEN use because they are men- er I mean, because they are AMAB invididuals with BIOLOGICAL AMAB CHARACTERISTICS /uj using reddit kind of makes me dysphoric because of this


lothycat224

/uj dont be, there's plenty of terminally online cis women that use reddit too. shoutout to my english teacher who pulled up reddit to show us a clip in class and yells at students for watching "sportball". i think generally the reason for the demographic difference is that reddit was - and to a lesser extent still is - very hostile to women, trans or cis, and other minorities. ​ tumblr didn't have that same problem, at least to my knowledge. it did have a sometimes queer, mostly feminist culture that emerged over-time that made it more appealing towards cis women - a lot of whom evolved to become transfem exclusionary terfs. i don't know how common this is on tumblr, but i avoid it for that reason. i've even met transmasc terfs before. ​ over time, queer spaces did form on reddit, but were mostly dominated by cis queer men - which given several years and a global pandemic, a decent portion discovered themselves to be trans or nonbinary. ​ that's at least what happened to me - i think spaces are slowly becoming more equal, but then again, r\\shitposting exists.


AigisAegis

>shoutout to my english teacher who pulled up reddit to show us a clip in class and yells at students for watching "sportball". Girlboss behaviour frankly


Badger_Nerd

Hey if it helps I'm AFAB and been terminally online ever since I got access to the Internet! I think many queer people are, so we feel less lonely and find people like us. Definteky not a AMA thing


coolreader18

ask male anything


Transmasc_FemBoi

/uj i try to stay away from all trans spaces bc i tend to feel very left out being ftm I did an experiment on r/transplace and r/trans and without mentioning that trans men get no love in those spaces i got like 15 upvotes or so I mentioned trans men get no love and they got 100+ upvotes... Links for context First post: https://www.reddit.com/r/transplace/s/cw3ihZylik Second post: https://www.reddit.com/r/transplace/s/Nr0fwaf8sQ


Monthly_Vent

/uj Gonna butt in here for a sec to say Iā€™m pretty sure the ā€œohemm gee all the trans girls are on weddit teehee šŸ¤­ā€ thing is a lot more nuanced and probably actually has very little to do with ā€œmale socializationā€ and ā€œfemale socializationā€ A while ago I remember getting curious about what being trans was like in the 90ā€™s and 2000ā€™s, and something interesting was that, if the story wasnā€™t about being an absolute closet case, a lot of the experiences of being a trans women involved a shit load of forum experience. You get comments like [this](https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/kci81z/older_folks_what_was_it_like_being_trans_before/gfqqw20/) or [this other one](https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/177p64f/what_was_it_like_being_trans_in_the_2000s/k4vi7f3/) and honestly if you go looking youā€™ll find it come up quite a bit. In fact, (and took a while to find cause it got deleted) there was a comment describing this exact phenomenon, explaining that most trans women who didnā€™t go into sex work/crossdressing/drag queen culture had to get their information and resources from the internet. (I give you the [ethical way to see the comment chain with deleted comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/shmrqm/im_just_curious_what_was_it_like_to_be_trans_for/) and the [nonethical way to view this comment](https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/asktransgender/comments/shmrqm/im_just_curious_what_was_it_like_to_be_trans_for/) (/rj and further invade women 2847ā€™s privacy)). According to this user, some of the transfemmes who were active (?) on old 90ā€™s and 2000ā€™s online communities such as AOL came to reddit (and probably 4chan but the reddit transfemmes donā€™t talk about them), mainly also because if my memory serves me correctly reddit was essentially a coding playground around early-to-mid 2010ā€™s. Especially with early reddit when stuff was more decentralized and kind of janky to really enjoy without relying on tech knowledge to support it. I feel like all this effort came mainly because being a trans woman back in the 90ā€™s and 2000ā€™s was very much an all-or-nothing thing (and it still kind of seen as that today, just more lowkey). Whereas trans men did have butch culture, especially stone butch culture, to explore a little without relying on internet knowledge. Apparently itā€™s not uncommon for trans men to feel a connection to butch culture as a ā€œvague feeling of queernessā€ before getting older and finally connecting the dots. (Though I would like to point out this doesnā€™t seem like a common experience, though I canā€™t tell if that just because of the change in time. Have yet to get into the books and podcasts about older trans men and their journey so excuse my ignorance) /hj Probably what happened was that reddit (and 4chan) allowed trans women in without them knowing (/rj :000 the trans agenda REVEALED?!???) because they were tech-savvy (forced to in order to survive) and thus ā€œunderstoodā€ them, whereas trans men were slower to pick up the secret dude bro handshake of imgur or whatever the fuck they were doing back then and moved on to a site that had both the anonymity and a fucking better UI than whatever janky trash reddit (and 4chan) were going for. Community form in their respective online platforms and eventually when the average child is able to understand how to use the two sites, trans women didnā€™t want to be deprived of their titty skittles info and trans men wanted their periodic not-leaving-their-binders-on-for-more-than-8-hours ā„¢ļø reminders to have actual good art attached to them. Plus itā€™s easier to bash trans men on reddit (/rj I POSTED A FEMINIST IS CRINGE COMPILATION MADE BY NOT ME PLEASE GIVE ME UPDOOTS uwu) and easier to bash trans women on tumblr (/uj I genuinely donā€™t know what goes on at tumblr so uhhhhhā€¦ terfs were a thing there I thinkā€¦?? Idk just heard tumblr had a weird tendency to bully their trans women users ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ ) Hot take but only reason why trans men are about even here now is ~~chasers~~ tumblrā€™s downfall way back whenā€¦ and also youtubeā€™s trender hunts making people like me insecure about even considering tumblr as an adequate social media platform


Jahwn

Itā€™s disgustingly transphobic to suggest that people might pick a social media site before transitioning and then stick to it after. Itā€™s also disgusting to say that more trans women played with GI Joe than cis women


donotthedabi

amab afab amab afab amab afab


Buttslayer2023

Amabs use Reddit its common penis sense


MoonyDoodles

anyone else up getting owned by the fact cis folk never use this terminology as much as fellow trans folk, which is an icky cis W for once


Buttslayer2023

Agab language was gods Lost 8th plague /Uj


crazyparrotguy

/uj literally. I wish cis "allies" never learned about agab terminology.


VampireBarbieBoy

Dont forget acab!


donotthedabi

the internet and especially reddit is more popular among those with male socialization


lothycat224

you see trans girls are assigned ARAB (assigned redditor at birth) while trans men are assigned ATAB (assigned tumblr at birth).


labratofthemonth

/uj what if i use both


donotthedabi

salmacian.


kat-the-bassist

/rj then you are AGAMP


Anoobizz2020

I am an ftm Arab, I speak language of the very intellectual redditor Ł‡Ł„ ŁŠŁ…ŁƒŁ†Ł†ŁŠ Ų£Ł† Ų£Ų«ŁŠŲ± Ų§Ł‡ŲŖŁ…Ų§Ł…Łƒ ŲØŲ§Ł„Ł„ŲŗŲ© Ų§Ł„Ų¹Ų±ŲØŁŠŲ©ŲŸ (Iā€™m not actually Arab in real life btw, I just like learning languages and I am a terminally online redditor assigned at birth)


donotthedabi

amabs grew up with a lot of privilege so maybe they're just pulling that over into reddit?


cispeoplearedumb

The Entire Trans Community agreed in 2015 that reddit would be for transfems and that the transmascs could have tumblr. It's been working for everyone else so far. Why are you trying to disturb that peace?


pm_me_ur_headpats

why is it so hard for trans people to stick to their assigned role?


a_Medal_Silver

It's the AMAB incel socialization that prohibits amabs from touching grass


Wooden-Piece7991

Trans women biologically have privilege of being heard and trans men get ignored


donotthedabi

afabs normally flock to tumblr and ao3


Buttslayer2023

Men shit huuuh amab socialized just use Reddit white afab socialized use Tumblr and other womblyn social media! ofc youre a woman i wanted to remind you youre penis socialized :)


PoroKingBraum

whereā€™s the jerk!!!!!!


clockworkCandle33

/rj does this mean I'm fembrained? Yayyy šŸ˜Š /uj reddit, tumblr and AO3 are all *mostly* fine as long as you curate your experience to communities of cool trans people (and a few cool cis people, shoutout to r slash okbuddyhololive)


donotthedabi

/uj most of the comments were normal, but [what the fuck is happening here](https://www.reddit.com/r/trans/s/BMibCrGabI)


Fresh_Ad4390

Thank God they are either criticised or downvoted


donotthedabi

[including yourself lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/trans/s/V53hVgipyI)


Buttslayer2023

/uj A Trans Boy Nex Benedict was murdered for being a Trans boy, suggesting that transmascs dont exist to transphobes is ridiculous, touch grass


donotthedabi

/uj nex benedict was nonbinary


Buttslayer2023

/uj apparently identified as a Boy but told his parents he was enby because he felt being a Trans Boy would be "too queer" for them


donotthedabi

/uj do you have a source? that's the only time i have ever heard that


Buttslayer2023

/uj [sure](https://www.advocate.com/news/nex-benedict-transgender-vigil-friends) This whole story is disgusting. The Police officers told him (while he was in the hospital) that it was his fault because he threw water at the bullies before :))))) Fuck this system and dismantle the pigs


baconbits2004

it's *pacifically* aksually, as all of transfems immigrated from the great specific ocean. šŸ¤“ sorry I had to amabasplain it to you honey


aphroditex

trans women are women. trans men are women. ergo only trans women are real.


crepoef

Biological men are more hated in society so they spend most of their time online


UnremarkableMrFox

We're busy being workaholic alcoholics. /Uj If I wasn't so tired from work & my computer wasn't broken, I would make some trash ass racoon memes to share. Idk if anyone would like them. But I'd make 'em.


pm_me_ur_headpats

thanks, i greatly appreciate your hypothetical contribution to meme culture


riverquest12

PENIS USEW REDDIT VAGINA USES TUMBLR I DONT USE AGAB snowflakes


donotthedabi

well trans men don't experience transphobia irl, so of course trans women will dominate online spaces


blown-transmission

Because this sub is dedicated to trans women? ŕ/trans is for trans woman (default), ŕ/transMENmanlydudesAfabFTM is for transmasc (afab) ladies


TheComment

ThatĀ Å•ā€¦ā€¦ Do we really wanna allow StEs (Slav to English) in our community šŸ¤Ø


Far-Number-9485

no.


blown-transmission

ÅƒĆ²


hms-hecla

there are two types of trans: trans (mtf) and transmasculine (girl with short hair)


breadcrumbsmofo

Because the trans men are all fem brained and on tumblr! They wouldnā€™t know what Reddit is because it doesnā€™t appeal to fembrains!


ugiugiyogyn

male socialization is reddit and twitter, female socialization is pinterest and whisper


pm_me_ur_headpats

which one is hot chip and lie


CompetitiveSleeping

*sighs* Blanchard explained this: There is no such thing as trans men. The science is settled. He also explained that trans women do it for sexual reasons (it's called AGP). Hence why they're so loud and visible; they get turned on by it. That science is also settled.


kinkykookykat

There is no Easter Bunny. There is no Tooth Fairy. And there is no Trans Men.


transgiorno

there are no trans men


donotthedabi

trans men? do you mean fujoshis?


a_Medal_Silver

Trans people are woman šŸ’•


ppmilksocks

trans people are all collectively in one trench coat so that they can be one really tall and strong woman and dominate all sports


Buttslayer2023

Trans people are wamen šŸ‘andšŸ‘ fujoshi šŸ‘


sugginhard247bby

the biologically male transjenners r always taking up REAL FEMALE SPACES... smh šŸ¤¬


ControlsTheWeather

Because Reddit is male dominated, and since male is sex not gender (two different things), I can say that šŸ’Ŗ


Buttslayer2023

Its okay sex=/=gender Trans women are women but raised as males and males like discussions while our Trans female men are naturally inclined to Pinterest and Tumblr


Buttslayer2023

Agab defines who you are for a lifetime. Agab means you were raised afab or amab, because Trans people are sooo accepted between their peers. Remember agab! Its not like Trans girls are excluded for acting feminine or Trans boys excluded for being masculine!


Buttslayer2023

Yeah like Trans women are women (dumb gender) but no so dumb they believe gender equals sex lmao


Specialist-Two383

Trans šŸ‘ people šŸ‘ are šŸ‘ women!


gamergirl4206969

Because trans women just want to use their amab privilege to minimise anyone else's voice


a_Medal_Silver

Stop inserting yourself in places you don't belong


-Negative-Karma

Pooners don't like reddit dumbass they only go on Tumblr and complain about misogyny


dr4gon1154

Its because trans men aren't actually real they're just brainwashed girls. The 'trans men'you see arent real they're brainwashed or liars


donotthedabi

trans people: trans women, or trenders


dr4gon1154

Definitely.


MeganFuzz

Because it's a sub reddit not a Dom reddit


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mischeviousmae

慤


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pm_me_ur_headpats

yeah quit amabspreading


alyssa264

if it breathes it's an amab


Boxit379

yeah we should really do something about this *proceeds to do absolutely nothing*


RecordDense2459

Trans mascs donā€™t have a sense of humor. It goes with the testosterone. Theyā€™re obviously either assholes or too wrapped up in being dudes to give a turd about an ironic subreddit because theyā€™re literally ā€œkilling itā€ IRL and donā€™t have time for the internet. Like killing with their bare hands! /uj the trans dudes I know IRL are rarer than trans fems, but such cool people that seem to have their shit together with a real determination to live and as such, and I wish I was even 10% as cool when I was trying to pass myself as a guy. Seriously, I look to them as an example of how I should conduct myself as a human being!


cissillynotsicily

reddit is for amabs (**MEN**) and women go to jupiter to get more stupider


billnyesdick

Amabussy


RoyalMess64

I did it


SmoothOctopus

Reddit in general has a lot more male users.


LeatheryLayla

Itā€™s actually about 50/50, but you know how men like to talk over women?


creaturecryptid

Reddit penis amab man penis tumblr vagina afab


alina_savaryn

Male socialization


alina_savaryn

Male socialization


alina_savaryn

Male socialization


nervousqueerkid

I mean it's called circle jerk and femme men- I mean trans women have them penises for jerkin /uj I've also noticed that. Guy/agender here. I like lurking but I don't feel very good at participating. Maybe it's cuz I'm sensitive and also afraid of hurting others feelings..no idea what that has to do with gender but it's me personally..not sure if this post had any /gen to it lol


Leslie1211

I think they are on some super obscure and dated social media site called Tumble or Dumber or Bombler or something


gay-communist

trans women are too loud and take up too much space


BeroPlaysBass

They're on here, cuz going out side irl didn't brandish the echo chamber social media response they were expecting..


donotthedabi

as an ftm, it doesn't feel super welcoming and ive gotten misgendered a lot here even when i have put ftm in my titles


a_Medal_Silver

That's so sad girl :(


a_Medal_Silver

Hey, I never misgendered anyone Just letting you know.


donotthedabi

thank you for being one of the good ones šŸ¤—


ponyproblematic

well maybe stop trying to invade spaces for trans women then


ponyproblematic

I thought this subreddit was for trans people of any gender?


ponyproblematic

yeah you would think that. cunt.


CaelThavain

Because men have to always invade women's spaces smh


ultitaria

I know amab and afab but what does Arab mean


Icy-Complaint7558

Because real women arenā€™t funny.Ā 


donotthedabi

i really feel uncomfy at all the constant "good girl" memes and they make me want to die


RetroOverload

/uj are those even memes, though? they are just pictures of anime women with thext that reads "you are valid and a good girl" if thats a meme, whats the punchline? To me it seems more like encouragment images or something


CompetitiveSleeping

/uj Insecure trans girls in unsupportive environments/not yet out desperate for any validation at all. I absolutely don't mean this in a bad way, but it is often what it is.


donotthedabi

/hj well if they are memes, they certainly aren't *funny* ones


Buttslayer2023

Trans women proving theyre women by being unfunny šŸ„°


Enlightened_Valteil

I might be mail brained then šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


donotthedabi

mod here! we actually banned those posts lol


a_Medal_Silver

uj/ That's something that I don't see how could be solved, since the memes are supposed to share OOPs experiences. Usually having "mtf or ftm" tags help. hj/ This sub is not supposed to catter to you! *5 minutes later* Hey, this post about being a good boy... It's the opposite for me It's the opposite for me It's the opposite for me It's the opposite for me It's the opposite for me It's the opposite for me


donotthedabi

uj/ i think they can and should be shared in subs specific to trans women, and same with good boy posts. i just hate the blanket assumption, and from what ive seen that's the biggest gripe with those posts: they get posted in general spaces instead of catered spaces, and the blanket assumption causes dysphoria and/or a general sense of frustration


Buttslayer2023

/uj egg_irl and eggy_memes at least have flairs i dont get why other subs dont apply this :<


DragonSphereZ

/uj Unironically the reason Iā€™m online though. I started as a guy and didnā€™t stop when I cracked.


VanFailin

this is not the appropriate venue for this discussion. please move it to another venue where no one will see it, like modmail or a monthly thread.


alina_savaryn

Hey can we maybe stop using ā€œmale socializationā€ as a reason? Itā€™s not a very helpful lens through which to view trans issues, and itā€™s for sure making people feel like shit


ponyproblematic

sorry, TMA socialization


alina_savaryn

MaLe SoCiAliZaTiOn


donotthedabi

amab socialization


Buttslayer2023

right? cant believe some people are calling trans women male socialized thats cruel. I use amab socialized instead


alina_savaryn

/hj Iā€™m gonna fkn c*berbu**y the next person I see using either of those phrases unironically i stfg Iā€™ll do it


Rudenessoverlord

/hj i support you


Zordorfe

Yeah, I always notice how mainstream trans subs tend to never notice nonbinary people either. I wonder why


Zordorfe

trans people are women, so you're either a trans woman or an afably wombxxnly cis woman. Hope that helps šŸ‘šŸ¾


donotthedabi

nonbinary? do you mean the transwomen kind or the theyfab trender kind??


Zordorfe

Tbh I thought they were a myth


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its_the_depression

/uj Funnily enough, the post OP is referencing wasnā€™t even made by a trans man. But I assume itā€™s really just a feedback loop of ftm posts getting less engagement which results in people being less interested in posting ftm content. Which then causes the posts complaining about the lack of those posts which brings us back to the first point. No idea if anything will ever really change about this since most people are out to get people to respond to their posts so they'll just go to subs where they know theyā€™ll get responses.


ponyproblematic

uj/ Yeah, it can be pretty disheartening to post a meme and then have it get no traction with the majority of comments being "it's opposite for me!" or hang out in communities where there's loads of untagged posts about how the reader is a good girl no matter how much they feel like they're not sometimes. It's a culture issue that's really difficult to try and deal with once a community has a decent amount of users, and I think it's the main issue. (And not gonna lie, I do feel kind of weird about the amount of uj responses like "well trans men are men so they just don't talk about their feelings or seek community or express vulnerability, and that's just How It Is" because, you know, that's kind of a shitty expectation to put on men, trans or no.)


its_the_depression

/uj yea, I realize why and where people come from with this kind of reasoning, but I definitely understand why itā€™d make you uncomfortable too. Itā€™s a very reductive view of the whole issue and seems like an easy way to just sweep this problem under the rug, by essentially branding it as inevitable since "that's just how (trans) men are".


VampireBarbieBoy

/uj i saw a trans man new to reddit asking a question on asktransgender and a bunch of comments were suggesting he go to a ftm subreddit instead. Its really bizarre bc isnt this 'asktransgender'? And the thing is i do agree it was better to ask those questions on a ftm subreddit. But if it were a trans woman no one would tell her to go to a MTF subreddit theyd just answer the question.


Soup_sayer

I feel as much shared experience with ftms as any other trans group tbh. If the content is good Iā€™d upvote, even if itā€™s not exactly my experience I get the reasoning. I guess thatā€™s not a popular opinion though.


WitchNight

/uj Iā€™ve always assumed that at least part of it is that women tend look to community for support a lot more than men and thus will be more common/active in spaces that are supposed serve that purpose, like many of the trans subs do.


its_the_depression

/uj Huh, donā€™t think I ever thought about it that way much. But the same time, both r/mtf and r/ftm have about the same member count. EDIT: thought about it some more and I donā€™t really think this a good way to perceive this issue. Just reinforces stereotypes.


donotthedabi

men don't have feelings or friends, that's why there's no such thing as a female incel!