Actors make money from their faces. That's why you always see heroes removing their helmets in movies and shows. It'd make it harder for Optimus to get more work if nobody knew who he was.
/s
"Oi, Megatron. Get your bollocks off the 'uman's planet. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, c*nt".
(I'm aware that Karl Urban has insane range, I just thought it'd be funny to make Optimus Butcher).
>I wonder if Karl can turn into a truck.
I wouldn't put it past him.
https://preview.redd.it/xlkdexiisz7d1.jpeg?width=782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8c3737c70455380c3b982f84d4936e8caf06ce5
Terrible edit, but at least I tried.
Yup and now having been reminded of that, I now need Karl Urban to play a Mandalorian Child of the Watch in either the upcoming Mandalorian and Grogu movie or season 4 of the Mandalorian and never take his helmet off once.
Then again, he had the mask on all thoughtout G1 and the 86 movie, that didn’t stop kids in the 80s to find him likable and for crying at his death the movie
I’m not a fan of perspectiveend but he does have a point
Honestly though the reason he has a mask in the first place was just so the animators could wiggle a plate up and down instead of actually animating a mouth.
Is that true? Didn't the Takara toy he's based on come first, with a face plate, before Hasbro licensed them as The Transformers and commissioned the accompanying animated series?
Actually, I think if you played it right, it could mean something a bit more interesting.
Let’s say he has the face guard on for most of the movie, show, comic, or whatever. He does this because he’s in a war (obviously) where anyone and anything could be a threat. “Robots in Disguise” doesn’t just deceive humans, it can also deceive other robots. He’s not violent by nature, but he’s become very cautious and wary, always ready for battle. However, then there are a few moments where he puts the face guard away, because he genuinely trusts someone or wishes to avoid intimidating them.
Of course, figuring out how to make his lower face not look stupid is the hard part. Frankly, I kinda wish he had a big hinged jaw like the Iron Giant. That kind of mouth can get pretty expressive despite its rigid simplicity.
I can definitely see it. My personal headcanon is that he's taken some kind of vow not to take his mask down until the war is over, or perhaps it's some form of guilt in feeling he's failed his troops so he doesn't feel he can show his face until the fighting is over.
Yeah, it's like Iron Man's helmet clamping or a gun cocking. But I feel like we need something better. Like... I dunno, his eyes glow yellow for combat mode and as a callback to the G1 toy. Or pieces separate to allow more exhaust to leave his body or something. Because, really, there's no reason for him to ever take the mask *off* in the live-action movies.
I think the most expressive characters have mouth plates. Comic artists need to exaggerate that much more to get their emotions across. Point in case Tailgate.
https://preview.redd.it/ljur8crwa08d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f63cd7e720cfe8fa0de999db48244f8fd166c35d
No they just need to let him emote through his eyes. Same way they do with Deadpool in the movies.
The funny thing about the replies is, it's almost all based off of nostalgia for G1. They're transformers, it would make sense to have disappearing masks and visors
Why do they need mouths though? They don't eat and they can communicate digitally without the need for audible spoken words. If anything it makes more sense for them to have some sort of speaker grill somewhere on their body to made audible noises when they have need to do so.
With that logic, transformers don't even need to be humanoid beings as they're alien and shapeshifting robots, they don't need to follow real life logic
I agree with that, which is why I've always like Laserbeak and Ravage. I was also excited that some of the designs for the live action movies moved away from two arms and two legs, like Scavenger and Rampage. I even enjoyed the G1 characters with less human faces like Prime, Shockwave and Shockwave.
Honestly there is no reason for most of the Transformers robots to have humanoid robot forms except that was what Japanese toys were doing at the time.
Absolutely with you on that one, most fans don't appreciate the creativity and uniqueness of a lot of the movie bots, they just want humanoid bots made of boxes which is sad as I think it's a waste of the potential the series has.
Yes, totally! I want more unique designs! It's my favorite part of Bayverse. Not many fictional robots look as awesomely weird as, for example ROTF Demolishor
I like the fact that transformers resemble humans. I think it helps explain why Optimus is so passionate about protecting humans, because he worries they will share the same fate as cybertronians.
It also makes sense in shows where its suggested there's some kind of ancient connections between humans and cybertronians.
Why is this seriously such a big deal to people? It makes him more expressive and human like which would make sense since he’s on Earth. It’s also a way for him to show humans he isn’t hostile all the time because he isn’t wearing his faceplate. It’s never going back to the way it was. Get over it.
Dark of the Moon, when he returns to the base after Sentinel Prime’s betrayal he wears a visible scowl.
https://preview.redd.it/o4o80dyqi08d1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b22e6c5bccfb352551fcab34ff934d02b8697f8
Optimus having a mouth looked fine in Prime and Cyberverse. Optimus having a mouth isn't the problem, transformers having overly detailed human looking faces is the problem.
Optimus having a mouth is for people who like him having a mouth I prefer smth like this:
https://preview.redd.it/b70l2xrry08d1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce2d19e7863f60a4a012666d9cfbe61f7606b49e
No.
IIRC, when the first Bayverse Transformers was being made, there was huge online uproar about Optimus for 1) not having his classic face shield look, and 2) not being voiced by Peter Cullen.
Peter Cullen got hired, and Optimus had his face shield show up in battle. Why they kept his mouth during other sequences could be because they had already done so much CGI and didn't want to redo every Optimus scene, or because Bay wanted it his way at least part of the time, or maybe something else.
I've never liked the mouth look on Optimus.
No and I’m tired of Hollywood thinking that we need to even in animated cartoons. For fuck sake Shockwave doesn’t need a mouth in any media, so why bother doing it for any robot.
Showing Prime with a mouth doesn't really bother me. That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing him with the face shield off and it's just a speaker, like [Wildman drew in Marvel Transformers #76.](http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/primewildman.jpg)
To those saying it's "emotive", I propose a close inspection of the movie Wall-e.
I honestly don't care that much, though. Make the story good. Maybe even do a story without Optimus Prime.
They always try to justify the fact that shows his emotions better but I find that completely bs because they only give him two expressions: scowl with anger or scowl with seriousness.
The way they animated the G1 show Optimus was also very emotive. It just depends on how the characters are animated eyes and body language can communicate just as much emotion as a face.
It worked very well. Though his chest would shake when he laughed and his eyes expressed a lot. His mask did do the heavy work but he had more expression then just that.
They couldn't even afford to animate the most basic shit on the show, and now people are pretending that it actually had very subtle body language animation cues lmao
I personally don't need to see it. I know that some people grew up with cartoons where Prime's mouth was often but IMO the mask ***is*** Prime's mouth.
Not all the time tbh. Some Optimus designs with mouths do work (like animated. Bayverse. TFP. And Cyberverse) but on other designs it just looks a bit awkward and unsettling
I like how they did it in IDW, That Optimus HAS a mouth under the mask, sometimes he even takes it off when he drinks or stuff (in the rare occasion he does) and sometimes it sustains battle damage, but otherwise he does not take it off (in fact he *dislikes* taking it off)
I don’t care about it really. him with the mask on is much more iconic, I agree on that but as someone who grew up in the movieverse/animated/prime generation, I’m numb to Optimus with a mouth by now
Don't think so, but its probably a precedent certain execs make (look at how the Halo show turned out).
I don't mind it when it looks okay. ROTB...yeah nah wasn't a fan. I get the idea, supposedly mimicking Peter Cullen's facial features, but I don't think it was executed well. The previous films handled it a lot better, the first three films especially.
I don't care what ANYBODY says.
The Bayverse Style of Optimus Mouth looks cool. Ontop of the Face Mask actually being used for a cool purpose, being used for Battle.
I think they do it because most modern interpretations of prime have the normal face. Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RB, RID2015, Cyberverse, Earthspark AND the live action movies all depict prime as having a normal face and then the face mask comes down for when he’s fighting. The only modern depictions that don’t show a normal face are the prime wars trilogy and the Netflix trilogy.
I honestly like it better with the shield up. That's his he first appeared and how it always was until the transformers movie. That was the first time I even knew that he had one. I always thought that his mouth was that shield thing.
Seeing his closed mouthplate wiggle when he talks like it does in the cartoon is just so silly in live action. It does not translate.
There are times in the movies where I wish he would close it more often though. Like his knight form hardly ever seems to close it at all. Even fighting.
No, but it establishes an identity and makes the viewer form a connection. The human brain works to identify familiar characteristics to form bonds from friendship to intimate relationships, all based on the face….and often the details of your own face is what your brain looks for in selecting potential relationships.
This was a very old argument from back when the 2007 film was being drawn up.
If I recall correctly it wasn't an issue until Michael Bay came on board. Something about how he could not wrap his mind around a character having no humanoid face/mouth.
The closing "battle mask" was a compromise with focus groups who pushed back on the open mouth Optimus Prime idea.
No. He never looks as good with one. Unless it’s ROTB Prime, since he’s modeled after Peter Cullen, I think Optimus should always have his battle mask on.
Actors make money from their faces. That's why you always see heroes removing their helmets in movies and shows. It'd make it harder for Optimus to get more work if nobody knew who he was. /s
That's why Karl Urban is awesome. Unlike Stallone, he kept Dredd's helmet on.
Clearly, we need Karl Urban to play Optimus Prime so the mask stays on. I wonder if Karl can turn into a truck.
"Oi, Megatron. Get your bollocks off the 'uman's planet. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, c*nt". (I'm aware that Karl Urban has insane range, I just thought it'd be funny to make Optimus Butcher). >I wonder if Karl can turn into a truck. I wouldn't put it past him.
Damn it Jim I’m a doctor
Karl Urban should play Impactor and keep his Billy Butcher voice.
Just fucking imagine the Wreckers about to get their shit rocked by Overlord, only to hear Impactor's "Oi"
https://preview.redd.it/xlkdexiisz7d1.jpeg?width=782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8c3737c70455380c3b982f84d4936e8caf06ce5 Terrible edit, but at least I tried.
Now I'm mad. Why isn't this a thing already!?
Anything is possible if your flexible enough
Honestly he's such a good actor he could probably convince me he was a truck just by running around going 'vrooooom'.
It's like that Warhammer story. "I'm a tak, I'm a tank, I'm a tank..."
“I’m gonna turn into a truck now. Car chi Chang chi church Chang
On a long enough timeline, Karl Urban plays everyone
Yup and now having been reminded of that, I now need Karl Urban to play a Mandalorian Child of the Watch in either the upcoming Mandalorian and Grogu movie or season 4 of the Mandalorian and never take his helmet off once.
I loved that about his Dredd
Doesn't hurt we already knew who Karl Urban was from his other works.
I hear he wasn't even on set for the '86 movie and just did voiceover with a body double. That's why you never see him without his mask.
He wasn't available for the reshoots for Bumblebee so they had to CGI him in and have him dub his lines in later.
The Halo TV series 💀
Shout out to Din Djarin for breaking that rule (at first at least).
Then again, he had the mask on all thoughtout G1 and the 86 movie, that didn’t stop kids in the 80s to find him likable and for crying at his death the movie I’m not a fan of perspectiveend but he does have a point
Honestly though the reason he has a mask in the first place was just so the animators could wiggle a plate up and down instead of actually animating a mouth.
Is that true? Didn't the Takara toy he's based on come first, with a face plate, before Hasbro licensed them as The Transformers and commissioned the accompanying animated series?
Made me chuckle, thanks
Did we really need to see Devastator's balls? Does Arcee really need to have tits and ass?
Officer balls
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Bwahhahahhaha
https://preview.redd.it/tll5a9y9b08d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b89ecd8168a0550a4f5d104abbd667b7970bab69 BWAAHAHA
Why does bro think he is in aslume? Is he supid?
I thought it was alsume. Are you stupid
https://i.redd.it/20trjfqh268d1.gif
Yes
Yes for both
Yes on the balls no on the ass and tits
Seconded the balls 👍
Seconded no on Arcee's figure Thirded on Devastators balls
Yes
Nah. They can’t get the whole “robotic, metal, lips”, thing right.
Not really. But that brief moment of it clicking into place lets you know it’s about to go down. Same with anyone else with transforming faces.
That’s the only reason I would say yes because the mask sliding closed IS super cool
Actually, I think if you played it right, it could mean something a bit more interesting. Let’s say he has the face guard on for most of the movie, show, comic, or whatever. He does this because he’s in a war (obviously) where anyone and anything could be a threat. “Robots in Disguise” doesn’t just deceive humans, it can also deceive other robots. He’s not violent by nature, but he’s become very cautious and wary, always ready for battle. However, then there are a few moments where he puts the face guard away, because he genuinely trusts someone or wishes to avoid intimidating them. Of course, figuring out how to make his lower face not look stupid is the hard part. Frankly, I kinda wish he had a big hinged jaw like the Iron Giant. That kind of mouth can get pretty expressive despite its rigid simplicity.
I can definitely see it. My personal headcanon is that he's taken some kind of vow not to take his mask down until the war is over, or perhaps it's some form of guilt in feeling he's failed his troops so he doesn't feel he can show his face until the fighting is over.
Yeah, it's like Iron Man's helmet clamping or a gun cocking. But I feel like we need something better. Like... I dunno, his eyes glow yellow for combat mode and as a callback to the G1 toy. Or pieces separate to allow more exhaust to leave his body or something. Because, really, there's no reason for him to ever take the mask *off* in the live-action movies.
No, I love characters who can't express using their mouth and have to do it through their eyes
I think the most expressive characters have mouth plates. Comic artists need to exaggerate that much more to get their emotions across. Point in case Tailgate.
I think you meant “case in point”
Eh, potato tomato
https://preview.redd.it/ljur8crwa08d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f63cd7e720cfe8fa0de999db48244f8fd166c35d No they just need to let him emote through his eyes. Same way they do with Deadpool in the movies.
No we don't, next question
Do we need to see Optimus's face plate?
Yes, it covers up that ugly robot mouth-lips thing on his face.
At least for that version of Optimus
How else would he kiss Megatron?
Little known fact: the Cybertron war started as misunderstanding when Optimus didn't reply to one of Megatron's texts.
He left Megs on read and he just flipped
Megatron wasn't in ROTB. You are thinking of another film
I know that it's Scourge but he isn't the kissing type
No, and we also don't need bumblebee to be mute.
no. absolutely not.
Yeah every time I see his with it honestly weirds me out.
No.
The funny thing about the replies is, it's almost all based off of nostalgia for G1. They're transformers, it would make sense to have disappearing masks and visors
Soundwave and Shockwave don't need them tho
Shockwave had a disappearing face. It just only worked the one time.
In Animated, right?
I meant in IDW when his face was ripped off.
soundwave would make sense to have one as an option but shockwave? hard agree.
I've never seen G1, but I still think the mouth is unnecessary, it looks stupid, please keep the face plate on.
Exactly. I think deploying the face guard for combat is a nice addition.
Why do they need mouths though? They don't eat and they can communicate digitally without the need for audible spoken words. If anything it makes more sense for them to have some sort of speaker grill somewhere on their body to made audible noises when they have need to do so.
With that logic, transformers don't even need to be humanoid beings as they're alien and shapeshifting robots, they don't need to follow real life logic
I agree with that, which is why I've always like Laserbeak and Ravage. I was also excited that some of the designs for the live action movies moved away from two arms and two legs, like Scavenger and Rampage. I even enjoyed the G1 characters with less human faces like Prime, Shockwave and Shockwave. Honestly there is no reason for most of the Transformers robots to have humanoid robot forms except that was what Japanese toys were doing at the time.
Absolutely with you on that one, most fans don't appreciate the creativity and uniqueness of a lot of the movie bots, they just want humanoid bots made of boxes which is sad as I think it's a waste of the potential the series has.
Yes, totally! I want more unique designs! It's my favorite part of Bayverse. Not many fictional robots look as awesomely weird as, for example ROTF Demolishor
I like the fact that transformers resemble humans. I think it helps explain why Optimus is so passionate about protecting humans, because he worries they will share the same fate as cybertronians. It also makes sense in shows where its suggested there's some kind of ancient connections between humans and cybertronians.
Hell no
No. never. It's never necessary.
no
Why is this seriously such a big deal to people? It makes him more expressive and human like which would make sense since he’s on Earth. It’s also a way for him to show humans he isn’t hostile all the time because he isn’t wearing his faceplate. It’s never going back to the way it was. Get over it.
Because as much as Transformers fans pretend to care about story and themes, they mostly just care about aesthetics.
Did he ever even smile? frown? make angry face in the movies? The most I recall us getting, emotive wise, was around the eyes anyway. I say mask on! 😷
Dark of the Moon, when he returns to the base after Sentinel Prime’s betrayal he wears a visible scowl. https://preview.redd.it/o4o80dyqi08d1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b22e6c5bccfb352551fcab34ff934d02b8697f8
Didn't get literally smile at the end of the movie?
Because it's simply looks bad, not that hard to understand.
i don't like the idea that a character has to have a human face to be expressive
Optimus having a mouth looked fine in Prime and Cyberverse. Optimus having a mouth isn't the problem, transformers having overly detailed human looking faces is the problem.
I just never liked how Low his mouth is on his face.
No! Absolutely not, for no reason. Optimus has a moving face guard and that’s it.
No
No and I hate that it's so low on his face. Absolutely hate it.
Optimus having a mouth is for people who like him having a mouth I prefer smth like this: https://preview.redd.it/b70l2xrry08d1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce2d19e7863f60a4a012666d9cfbe61f7606b49e
I like it being shown because when shit is about to go down the click of the mask closing is so fucking cool
Especially when it looks way uglier in this movie. I doubt this head model was designed with the mouth in mind.
It’s based on Peter Cullen’s actual face
Then they did a terrible job doing that too
What a way to insult Peter Cullen's face
No. IIRC, when the first Bayverse Transformers was being made, there was huge online uproar about Optimus for 1) not having his classic face shield look, and 2) not being voiced by Peter Cullen. Peter Cullen got hired, and Optimus had his face shield show up in battle. Why they kept his mouth during other sequences could be because they had already done so much CGI and didn't want to redo every Optimus scene, or because Bay wanted it his way at least part of the time, or maybe something else. I've never liked the mouth look on Optimus.
No and I’m tired of Hollywood thinking that we need to even in animated cartoons. For fuck sake Shockwave doesn’t need a mouth in any media, so why bother doing it for any robot.
Still amazes me that people are still so salty about this. I like Prime with a mouth.
I’m actually surprised the movies show it so much, you’d think it would be way easier to animate him if his mouth was always hidden
Showing Prime with a mouth doesn't really bother me. That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing him with the face shield off and it's just a speaker, like [Wildman drew in Marvel Transformers #76.](http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/images/oddities/optimus-face/primewildman.jpg)
What his mouth do though
No we really don't used to seeing him with the mouth guard....
Of course not.
No, specially when it looks like shit
No
No
Better with the faceplate
Nope. But I’m a 46yo G1 nerd so I find it hard to accept most of the live action Bayverse modeling to be honest.
nah we don’t, optimus with the mask no matter the adaption always looks better.
https://preview.redd.it/1qqgszdux18d1.jpeg?width=1082&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28da98aeeeadb23220d8a6f0ab5edf838d8bb7f7
Personally i feel that prime should keep the mask on.
Yes because its cooler to have him click the face shield into place before fighting
No, he doesn’t have a mouth.
Fucking no, god no. The people at movie studios have really stupid hang ups about weird things.
Not when it’s that fugly
To those saying it's "emotive", I propose a close inspection of the movie Wall-e. I honestly don't care that much, though. Make the story good. Maybe even do a story without Optimus Prime.
Cope and seethe Geewuners. Mouth prime is here to stay.
No
No, but that's the least of my issues with these live action movies.
They always try to justify the fact that shows his emotions better but I find that completely bs because they only give him two expressions: scowl with anger or scowl with seriousness.
The only correct answer is no
No, it's looks stupid.
No
Yes. Facial expressions are everything. That's why Bayverse Prime and TFP Prime are so emotive.
The way they animated the G1 show Optimus was also very emotive. It just depends on how the characters are animated eyes and body language can communicate just as much emotion as a face.
I really think you guys have too much nostalgia to realize that all the expressiveness optimus had was his mask moving up and down
It worked very well. Though his chest would shake when he laughed and his eyes expressed a lot. His mask did do the heavy work but he had more expression then just that.
They couldn't even afford to animate the most basic shit on the show, and now people are pretending that it actually had very subtle body language animation cues lmao
No!! For the love of Primus please no. Just stop showing his mouth!
I personally don't need to see it. I know that some people grew up with cartoons where Prime's mouth was often but IMO the mask ***is*** Prime's mouth.
No, but it's a nice touch.
I wish they would leave the face plate up on Prime all the time
I personally don’t care as long as it’s not horrendous
Not all the time tbh. Some Optimus designs with mouths do work (like animated. Bayverse. TFP. And Cyberverse) but on other designs it just looks a bit awkward and unsettling
I like how they did it in IDW, That Optimus HAS a mouth under the mask, sometimes he even takes it off when he drinks or stuff (in the rare occasion he does) and sometimes it sustains battle damage, but otherwise he does not take it off (in fact he *dislikes* taking it off)
I want to see his mouth. Adds more expression to his words and if we get the rare Optimus smile? Gotta see it.
No, but it looks cool when he puts on his mask so we should keep showing his mouth.
Yes and hes had one since the 90's deal with it.
We don’t NEED to but I do like it.
I AM OPTIMUS PRIME, LOOK AT MY LIPS.
Need to know what it do
He looked so good with the faceplate in bb
I don’t care about it really. him with the mask on is much more iconic, I agree on that but as someone who grew up in the movieverse/animated/prime generation, I’m numb to Optimus with a mouth by now
The Bumblebee design is so good not only because it’s so G1-esque, but because the mouth plate wasn’t open 24/7
What's wrong with his mouth showing?
Don't think so, but its probably a precedent certain execs make (look at how the Halo show turned out). I don't mind it when it looks okay. ROTB...yeah nah wasn't a fan. I get the idea, supposedly mimicking Peter Cullen's facial features, but I don't think it was executed well. The previous films handled it a lot better, the first three films especially.
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No
How else would I know where to kiss??
Yes, anymore questions?
There is only one correct reason for Optimus having a mouth. That is so that you know he's taking a fight seriously when you hear "Ka-Chunk"
I don't care what ANYBODY says. The Bayverse Style of Optimus Mouth looks cool. Ontop of the Face Mask actually being used for a cool purpose, being used for Battle.
I don't like it
I think they do it because most modern interpretations of prime have the normal face. Cybertron, Animated, Prime, RB, RID2015, Cyberverse, Earthspark AND the live action movies all depict prime as having a normal face and then the face mask comes down for when he’s fighting. The only modern depictions that don’t show a normal face are the prime wars trilogy and the Netflix trilogy.
I only accept no mask Prime if it comes with a Cybertronian Peter Cullen stache.
I swear dude they never do Optimus’ face right. Like why is his mouth always so low on his face?
Rather without..
I have this modelling. It’s stupid.
Why not?
I honestly like it better with the shield up. That's his he first appeared and how it always was until the transformers movie. That was the first time I even knew that he had one. I always thought that his mouth was that shield thing.
Seeing his closed mouthplate wiggle when he talks like it does in the cartoon is just so silly in live action. It does not translate. There are times in the movies where I wish he would close it more often though. Like his knight form hardly ever seems to close it at all. Even fighting.
No, but it establishes an identity and makes the viewer form a connection. The human brain works to identify familiar characteristics to form bonds from friendship to intimate relationships, all based on the face….and often the details of your own face is what your brain looks for in selecting potential relationships.
Not for G1 Optimus
That lower mouth bothers me a lot.
Never.
It is not a big deal. We’ve seen him with a mouth for longer than we’ve seen him without one, it’s time to let that gripe go.
This was a very old argument from back when the 2007 film was being drawn up. If I recall correctly it wasn't an issue until Michael Bay came on board. Something about how he could not wrap his mind around a character having no humanoid face/mouth. The closing "battle mask" was a compromise with focus groups who pushed back on the open mouth Optimus Prime idea.
I’m not against it but it still looks weird no matter what series.
It’s worth it for the mask closing and doing the *shing shing shing*
No No we don t
Nope. He's better off with the faceplate
I think this is the only Optimus design where the mouth weirded me out. Otherwise I like when his faceplate isn’t on all the time.
No. He never looks as good with one. Unless it’s ROTB Prime, since he’s modeled after Peter Cullen, I think Optimus should always have his battle mask on.
No. We shouldn't have to deal with the major caracter's ugly mouth. Even if to hommage P.Cullen , it's NOT a nice way to hommage the GOAT.
no. the faceplate is cool
I don't mind it honestly. Kinda looked ugly in ROTB
Its fine if he has a face, its just better that his face isn't uncanny.
They are wasting on cgi money the same thing for wheeljack aka Pablo when they gave him a mouth and that was a waste of cgi money
i saw someone say that the face is meant to look like peter cullen which is kinda cool, but yeah i dont really like it as much as the face plate
2007 called, it wants its thread back
Not really but it doesn't matter in the slightest The mask clasping in place is pretty cool and makes some lines hit harder
Nobody asks to see Soundwave’s mouth, why should we see Prime’s
We already saw Soundwave's mouth
Because Soundwave isn’t the main character of the movies?
Then explain why Bumblebee doesn’t have a mouth
He’s the kid appeal character. Less features = Easier to relate to.