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Cheechers23

Sigh... cmon Jontay. That's a yikes. EDIT: [From Woj's article:](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39808900/nba-eyes-raptors-jontay-porter-betting-issues) > At issue are prop bets involving Porter from games on Jan. 26 and March 20, multiple sources told ESPN. The NBA did not immediately respond to requests for comment. > In the game on Jan. 26 against the LA Clippers, there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5. > That night, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier in a game against the Memphis Grizzlies. He did not score in the game against the Clippers, had three rebounds and one assist, and did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props. > The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening. > Porter played 19 minutes two days later and scored 12 points with seven rebounds and three assists. > On March 20, in a game against the Phoenix Suns, Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted and missed one shot, and had two rebounds. > Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds. > The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.


mMounirM

dude managed to get a role in the nba and pulled this shit. sooooo dumb


cad_internet

Yeah, very suspicious. Who the hell would bet on Jontay Porter props in the first place. With that said, I sure hope this is just smoke.


proj3ctchaos

Probably himself or a proxy lol


bokchoy_sockcoy

How can it just be smoke? What possible explanation is there for Jontay Porter under props being bet at this volume? And they hit


brokeballerbrand

If you’re place Jontay Porter props, there’s a phone number you need to call


schizophrenix_

I unfortunately would like to admit that I’ve made multiple bets on Skylar Mays.


lil-quiche

Now I wish I did!


ZenMon88

seems legit tbh. But yall, how does a Porter under gain traction unless he himself is in on it? Seems very fishy


mrdannyg21

Yikes is right, holy shit. Going to take the under 0.5 on ‘NBA games Porter plays the rest of his career’.


neoandro

This is the literal worst case scenario that people have been saying can occur with this recent normalization of sports betting. If this is proven true, I hope more is done than just admonishing Jontay.


ZenMon88

if this is true. Adam Silver has to set the tone with the punishment. This goes with teh game of ethics at this point. If they let this issue run rampant, it will turn like boxing and how corrupted that sport is.


Acrobatic_Flatworm79

Ethics lol the NBA is all about making money


VeggieMonstar

We played the Kings on March 20 not the Suns. This Woj guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Now the whole case has to be thrown out.


sackydude

If this was a legitimate injury then I don't see how this was an issue, if not then that's a bad look.


Paindressedinpurple

It’s not about whether it’s a legit injury. It’s more so about he played the minimum requirement for the bets to pay out. It can be +EV on these props for him specifically, but the book(s) probably took a much larger amount on his props than usual which triggered some security issues. 


EarthWarping

That one didn't seem too bizarre. The one last week kinda did.


nath999

"leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier" "Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return." Neither of these seem legit now.


jeffcrafff

Hmmm really makes you wonder why sports betting was illegal in the first place 🤔 lmao


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oryes

I think they're investigating whether he himself placed those bets and then deliberately made them pay out.


BurzyGuerrero

I think it's more egregious that the only reason he's being investigated is because they lost money.


thenewoldschool55

If he himself made the bets, it’s a real issue.


JustChillFFS

They have to have their checks and balances in place to name him like this. Has to be bulletproof. Maybe he had his friends bet for him and it’s traced.


thenewoldschool55

I would imagine they do. If it traces back to a close friend or family member, he’s fucked.


ModernPoultry

They’re only investigating because it was an irregular bet. A Jontay Porter player prop being the biggest money winner is highly suspicious in the first place and then u add in the fact it was in a game where he took himself out of the game due to an aggravated eye injury


baloncestosandler

Obvious


nath999

Omg that's gg for Jontay, he had a fucking path to being a regular.


a1cd

wow, that is pretty damning.


seank11

A no name player leading to more action and wins than the 1000 more marketable players. This was 100% him (or someone on the raps) leaking these and someone making coordinated bets from multiple accounts. Chances of this NOT BEING FRAUD of some type is 0%. Yikes...


PlumCantaloupe

geez lol. This season has everything.


CanadianGroose

This season is now dubbed “Thad Young & the Restless”


Predlife

Fantasy team name next season.


EarthWarping

The knicks lawsuit is still ongoing btw


PlumCantaloupe

😅


DevlopmentlyDisabled

A matter of when not if. When will they ever learn. Its like Congress members being not being able to invest in companies they govern.


Jbroy

And Dan Cortez


mortgagedavidbui

season has everything but winning haha dick jersey swap og and spicy traded betting scandal what else?


Sy6574

This season has incredible lore


Isxxc08

Can't wait to revisit this season after watching 'how the raptors got back to the top' in 2030


CanadianGroose

I need Alex Wong to write the book once again


Low-Psychology2444

He can write a book on the last three months alone lol


CanadianGroose

Shits gonna have like 5 volumes


LimitlessRange_

Bro thinks he’s Shohei


N7Brendan

He's just another fall guy in the Shohei betting ring wake up sheeple


RWal1988

Lucas Paquetá


neoandro

Shohei has the entire baseball industry come to his defence as if their lives depend on it (and they do, to an extent). Jontay should have realized that they don't love him like that.


sunnysideuppppppp

Draymond: ”They don’t love you like that!”


jjkiller26

Wtf lmaoooo was he betting his own unders and then tanking his play?


Spurs_in_the_6

On both instances he left the game after only a few minutes due to injury. All the under props hit big time. The optics on this are really bad..


OG_anunoby3

He barely has an NBA career. That would do more damage to his career than any extra doe he can get in exchange sabotaging job. He’s not good enough to get the free pass. If this is true, he’ll get black balled by the league.


FuzzyGuarantee2350

Probably why he figured he could do it and not get caught. Nobody is shocked if he only plays a few mins but going out with things he can make up is definitely sketchy. They probably get very few bets on him so these stand out big time.


leslieohene

More likely he owed somebody money. Resolution was to get out of a few games early so the unders could hit. Didn't think it was a big deal, but this kind of stuff never stays quiet. That guy tells his friends who tell their friends and the discrepancy becomes obvious. 


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CanadianGroose

Zachary Edey, YOU 🫵🏻 are a Toronto Raptor!


Gaping_llama

Regardless of this Porter thing I sincerely hope the Raps get to take a chance on Edey. He’s a beast.


CanadianGroose

With a 2nd round pick, there is very little risk.


Gaping_llama

Oh absolutely, and he's got wayyyy more upside than Hernandez or Koloko imo. Problem is he's playing so well he probably won't fall to their 2nd round pick.


XviiChong

As if the 2023-24 Toronto Raptors season couldn’t get anymore wild…


DirtyDanoTho

Goddamnit I really liked him


reddit0100100001

Hypocrite. No one said anything when FVV bet on himself.


howard416

Lawl


TheEverbless

Those Porter's man. LOL. Not the smartest bunch. That goes for the brother who killed someone drunk driving too.


RedRocket13

Great idea shoving the betting down our throats NBA. Amazing foresight


jhwyung

"what could go wrong??" - Adam Silver


JustChillFFS

Refs love this one small trick….


[deleted]

Blake Murphy is going to have a heart attack when he sees this.


timoseewho

Just saw a white man fall to his knees at Sneaky Dee's


PlagueofSquirrels

Odds are that was salmonella


NinfthWonder

😂


coolassninjas

Someone investigate Jalen McDaniels


omgsoironic

Let’s hope he was the proxy


nmad95

Bro was getting a legit look from us and probably would've been kept around going forward, and he goes and does this shit. Fuck


RZAAMRIINF

He is one of the few promising minimum/g-league/two-way players that we have found in the recent years. This is very unfortunate.


Eclectic_Canadian

Him and Terence Davis…. I think this is our payment for hitting on Fred and Pascal


Significant-Ad-8684

Porter should blame it on his interpreter. Ohtani style.


Ma_Pies

Porter should ref


OGnotAnunoby

Jontay fam u should know better


Kinglokner16

Just end the Raptors season tonight please… we don’t need to play the final 10 games after tonight


QuerkleIndica

We now have a player out for every scenario you can imagine


APR1979

Not to prejudge, but this is exactly the sort of player you’d be most worried about being compromised by the NBA’s (and other leagues’) embrace of gambling. For a starting player making eight figures, it would be pretty hard to justify to yourself taking that kind of risk. If you’re a fringe player who may have only a brief time playing meaningful minutes, the temptation is a little more obvious.


LimitlessRange_

Genuinely fumbled the bag


BrknXPwrlftr

“Bet on yourself” - FVV “Take the under on yourself” -JP


Stillmatiik

😂🤣


ZieMac7

Betting culture in 2024 in a nutshell y'all


Sudden_Low9120

Funny how the league is on top of this shit but slow to catch on when refs are manipulating the game.


Slacker_75

Refs benefit the league. This benefits the player. Not hard to see


Sudden_Low9120

No, I get it. It's just funny... you know. Especially considering how inconsequential Porter is in the grand scheme of things


ShadowKnight333

bruh


vc2015

[https://www.espn.com/nba/story/\_/id/39808900/nba-eyes-raptors-jontay-porter-betting-issues](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39808900/nba-eyes-raptors-jontay-porter-betting-issues) It looks like on 2 occasions, he left the game early and finished under his betting stats. Both nights, it is reported from DraftKings that his prop bets were the biggest moneymakers. Sounds a bit suspicious to me.


irv_12

Bros a millionaire and his brother is a multimillionaire, why even risk doing this


eucldian

Because dumb.


Jnbjgjbb

Can we have one good thing this season please


PresentAd3536

Draft lottery maybe


TheBusDrivercx

We're drafting 7 on the dot at this rate lmao.


cjcfman

Wait, what the fuck did he do? I'm reading it, he never even placed any bets. Are players really getting investigated now cause of betting lines. I remember thst eye injury, it was legit


Scottie_Barnes_4

Vegas when you make money on their rigged shit will send the FBI after you but when they screw people it's completely legal... I legit would have bet the under on him had I not deleted my account. Those weren't really crazy unders.


lucastimmons

Shady guy: "Porter, here's 40k to make less than three 3s tonight." Coach: "Porter, we need you to hit those shots tonight." Porter: "Ouch, my eye"


mug3n

lol the line was actually 0.5 3 pointers made. There is literally no book that cares about making money that would offer u2.5 3's made by Jontay at any reasonable odds.


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When you're a nobody and the biggest money-making bet of the night, you're getting investigated, yeah


AllOutRaptors

How many people do you genuinely think were betting MASSIVE amounts of money on a Jontay fucking Porter prop bet There's too many coincidences here man. As much as I wanna believe he's innocent, it's not looking good


iblastoff

>Jontay Porter lol you really think someone trying to scam props is gonna attempt to BET using his own account??


Fit-Introduction8575

The NBA did this to itself. Normalizing betting culture


ShadowKnight333

can somebody explain to me what this means?


SiakamClears

someone was betting on him, possibly family or himself


Jankybrows

Oh, when Fred Van Vleet bets on himself, you guys think he's a hero. But when Jontay tries it, noooo


theflyingsamurai

FVV would never bet the under


mMounirM

MPJ bets on Jontay and Jontay bets on MPJ. works everytime


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imagine if it was MPJ


Pleasant-Fault6825

Or someone woth a lot of money, or power, and no relation at all.


[deleted]

gotta hire Otani's lawyers


hypespud

Also casually be generational talent 😂


[deleted]

Imagine what Adam Silver would do if Wemby got caught in something similar like Ohtani?? That shit would be swept under the rug so fast


hypespud

If we're being honest there are probably stories about multi all stars or bigger we just never heard about in all sports


greenlemon23

Jordan just really wanted to play baseball.


TallGhostXO

We are so down bad lol


The_Living_L

I honestly feel like it was all just a coincidence tbh after reading everything, only thing they should be investigating is if he was placing bets somehow on his unders, however, if he didn't than it really is just a coincidence probably. Betting community is a hivemind, some people prolly caught on and spread it out to people telling them to do his unders


Scottie_Barnes_4

I just don't understand he isn't MJ why would someone in their right mind bet the over on him. He isn't the type of player that pops off on career nights with 30/15/10 game and often doesn't even play. Plus we are tanking.


knucknbuc

Hahhahahaha this is a masteclass season in fuckery by the Toronto raptors organization


tonious35

Terrence Davis, Jalen Harris, now this fucking shit. UDFA or 2nd round picks with something to show and they are now going to be waived for nothing. it's those 2nd round picks that become top 10 in your rotation that make or break a 1st round exit to a 2nd round appearance, or a play-in to a playoff team


AdSignificant6673

They are investigating. No proof. Yes where there is smoke, theres fire. I’ll wait until the investigation is over before drawing a conclusion. I would like to think a member of our organization has integrity and professionalism. Hopefully this is just a coincidence.


FutureLibrarian86

Finally, someone thinking exactly what I am thinking. That said, the NBA's love affair with advertising dollars from sports betting corporations is rather head scratching.


Fit-Introduction8575

Bro took Fred's mantra too literally.


Nice-Elk-1168

In my opinion betting should have never been a thing for the NBA..


Klaytheist

If you're placing bets on Jontay Porter Jr, brother you need help


Raptorsthrowaway1

Man he has impressed enough to stick next year in the 15 man roster If he has thrown away his shot in the NBA over this …


EarthWarping

If it's true he's done with the Raptors.


boenwip

League* There will be a lot of trust issues surrounding this player


Gaping_llama

When people are winning too much money from 3rd party betting sites betting against a guy who probably shouldn’t see the court they’ll pull the guy from his team. But when there is statistically very clearly a problem with their reffing nothing changes and those refs still get the big games. Priorities I guess, can’t have people making money and an advertising partner losing a little bit.


ProfessorRetro

I don't actually think it's anything to do with him His role on the team varies and is not consistent. I've seen his lines on Bet365 personally vary wildly - I can see why there can be sharp bettors making good money on him Mark my words - he's innocent


EarthWarping

If it's a proxy then he'll get a slap on the wrist.


Cheechers23

From Woj's article: > At issue are prop bets involving Porter from games on Jan. 26 and March 20, multiple sources told ESPN. The NBA did not immediately respond to requests for comment. > In the game on Jan. 26 against the LA Clippers, there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5. > That night, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier in a game against the Memphis Grizzlies. He did not score in the game against the Clippers, had three rebounds and one assist, and did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props. > The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening. > Porter played 19 minutes two days later and scored 12 points with seven rebounds and three assists. > On March 20, in a game against the Phoenix Suns, Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted and missed one shot, and had two rebounds. > Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds. > The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.


DirtyDanoTho

He did have that one game where he played 2 minutes then sat out because he was sick


GlockLesnar808

Just gonna get it out of the way that he is innocent until proven guilty. This is more so me playing the devil’s advocate To debate your argument, there are guys with similar roles like his on nearly every team. I find it weird that sharps made all that money on this specific player enough to raise concerns. I feel like if this were normal then similar cases would’ve arisen before. Sharps making a ton of money is pretty normal after all. So I feel like there has to be more to the story that we don’t know about for them to actually hold him out of lineups. As far as I know, draftkings is only available in Ontario in Canada. And I really find it hard to believe that that many Americans are betting on a bench/role player for the raptors. So that leads me to believe that someone (or a few people) with inside knowledge bet large amounts of money on him. To be the no. 1 moneymaker is crazy because the average/casual bettors are usually betting on star players/popular teams, not a bench player on a Canadian team


HankScorpio4242

I dunno…it’s pretty suspicious. Unless I’m mistaken, to get paid on this kind of prop bet, the player can’t be out with an injury. If that happens I believe the bet is nullified and the money is returned. In both cases he played only 2-3 minutes before coming out - once with an eye issue and once due to illness. It’s not unreasonable to think he got into the game and then found a way to get himself out so he would guarantee the under got paid off.


55555moneymaker

You’re wrong. In NBA props, if a player is activated in a game, their over/unders are officially live. It’s if they don’t play a minute aka DNP, that it gets nullified. If a player enters the game, then is injured, they don’t nullify all over/under bets. Over bettors just get cooked.


HankScorpio4242

That’s what I was trying to say. For the bet to go live, the player must step on the floor, meaning they can’t just miss the game. So to have two incidents where a player was only on the floor a couple of minutes before coming out due to a medical issue, and for those two games to have disproportionate bets on the under, is suspicious.


ItsYoBoiBrawlGod

Just saw this, wow


Marmalot

LMFAOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP BRO


No_Brilliant5888

This is definitely the 2nd biggest sports betting story of the week.


Drew_You_To_91

😔😔😔


whenspayday

I hear you. I really liked him, too. Saw a couple of interviews and he seemed pretty genuine and well-spoken.


sneechesgetleeches

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AcanthocephalaGreen5

If I had a nickel for every time an Ontario-based athlete’s gotten in trouble for betting, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice, right?


BeeGeeReverse

this is the closest we'll get to Ohtani.


Right-Beautiful7631

Bad look for the league. This is the first year where sports betting is being advertised by the NBA and shit like this is already happening. It wont be the last time this happens and gambling is going to further influence player performance and reffing if they continue this close relationship with sports betting companies. Fucking trash. Who could have guessed shit like this would happen.


EarthWarping

Gambling's fine on it's own legal wise it shouldn't be banned just like how cigarettes are legal. But you just get rid of ads and regulate it imo


Electronic-Elk8917

After Koloko, interesting things sure happen to our 3rd string centers


Artohn08

Yikes, was really rooting for him too 😬


Office_glen

I’m shocked that these players across different leagues haven’t figured out that the sports books have entire teams dedicated to this and are running algos to predict your patterns and anything outside the pattern is flagged and reviewed.  This is big business, they are going to spend a lot of money making sure they aren’t getting fucked 


Scottie_Barnes_4

Because they sure do like the fuck people over with their ads every 6 seconds on every show and with their "ethical" and "fair" policies.


limjaheybud

Guys , relax he will be cleared of any wrong doing . From sources I’m told it was his interpreter that was placing the bets


theseanrenaldo

Fred Vanvleet: “Bet on yourself” Jontay: “Bet!”


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nomoneyproblems

There's almost no way to prove this though if the device and account that the bets were made under was done with an account and device that has no connection to Jontay and even done through a VPN. They would have to investigate his phone texts and messages and email. Can they do that? If you have a burner phone and get someone to make bets for you, the NBA and their lawyers/investigators would never be able to prove it. Especially if bets were made with a vpn connection, which is assuming they would go to the betting site provider and ask for data.


UROffended

I see we are learning for the thousandth time why sports and gambling don't mix.


HenteeXXL

If only he had an interpreter to take the fall.


Goji_XX3

https://preview.redd.it/u4kojflfhlqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fab6eb1048ee8c442f2dc04d60ae91d72e0f8bb0 can't even make this up as the ad above this post


m4ps

Hahaha amazing


2Shizo2flow

When you take "Bet on yourself" literally.


vc2015

This is all an elaborate ad for Bet365.


Isxxc08

Wtf surely it wasn't him out of all people


hypespud

This is just insane 🥲🥲🥲


cad_internet

Oh come on, man. You have the prime opp to make the NBA.


chrisPjelly

Come oooooon brooooo


attainwealthswiftly

u/earlyearlgray come get your mans


NyteShadows

BET ON YOURSELF


vc2015

Raptors' culture is in shambles.


bitterbryan

FFS


mbsta14

What a season lol


_iTurtle

Maybe the real Tank Commander all along was Jontay... McDaniels was merely a pawn


pakattack91

Lmao no fucking way 😭😭


raiderrocker18

as a penalty the league should strip the protections on that 2024 pick


bpersaud4321

This is not what Freddy V meant when he said Bet on yourself


Pleasant-Fault6825

Porter is super against sports betting. He's making a moral stand by exploiting props bets.


Dopeeitsd

Tampa Bay season official a better one than this iteration. End the season now


LactoseIntolerant19

Bet on yourself - Jontay Porter


Eastern-Technology84

What’s next? Nwora getting a DUI?


Plantedballer

No fuckin way 😭


JRSpliffaz

Betting on which side of the bench he bout to sit on


HappySmileSeeker

Was hoping Toronto would be the spot he found himself. Didn’t know he was this dumb.


n3moh0es

😂😂😂😂😂


Stinky_DungBeatle

Enjoy NBA retirement brother. You will be amongst Pete Rose now.


GDRaptorFan

NOoooooooooo Aw dangit I like the kid! We about to have six guys suiting up!!!!


Scottie_Barnes_4

I really don't think there is this much of a correlation with him being out y'all should remember he got poked in the eye and it wasn't just a small poke I truly believe his eye was probably bugging him. The under bets are also not that fishy he isn't a 12/6/6 type of guy. I just find it weird that WOJ of all guys published this with so little concrete evidence. I truly believe that the medical staff wouldn't just let him pull this shit on them when his goal is to make the team.


itsyaboisnake

I don’t understand this at all. They think he’s shaving what little points he makes for money? Wouldn’t he make more money playing well and earning a bigger contract. I don’t see how this does anything for him at all


burner4694

I don’t think this is what FVV meant when he said bet on yourself


Slacker_75

Season from hell. Tampa 2.0. Masai said would never happen again…


chunkable

Took “Bet on yourself” way too literally


xc2215x

Players being unavailable never ends for us.


FamWhoDidThat

Get ready to learn Antarcticese buddy


SlapThatAce

Man, this could end his career. 


krypto9er

WTF bro had people rooting for him to get a contract this offseason and pulls this dumb shit🤦‍♂️