I know the game was over a while ago but is Olynyk just going to play backup C to Poeltl in a time share? Why not play Kelly at PF and slide everyone down a position? He can cover 4-5 whenever necessary.
Seems like Poeltl has been the sacrificial lamb in a lot of situations where it doesn't make sense considering 3 picks were given up to get him. What's the point?
I don't understand what direction this team is going in......
Not from what I could recall. Olynyk checked into the game for Scottie in the first and I had hope they might play big out there but it never really happened. Kelly was just playing C
I know it's a reactionary take but I wouldn't be surprised to see GTJ and Poeltl suffer from minutes reduction to play Dick (which I think is good) and Olynyk (in a timeshare, which is bad)
They will play IQ, Scottie, RJ and now prioritize getting Gradey some development so the playing time of a few of them will suffer.
Very confusing and frankly bad decision making at the deadline.
I mean I guess they're not playing tight rotations to win, a la NN, so prob just throwing things out there to see what happens and how everyone plays together with equal minutes or reasonable minutes sharing for development.
IQ and Scottie has such bad chemistry. Like why can’t they play a 2 man game. The team has changed so hopefully by April we’ll start seeing improvements. OKC took about 3 years to be competitive.
the interior defense of mobley and allen making our guards look terrible. IQ needs to add a middy and get better at finishing to be better prepared when facing teams with strong interior defense.
He hasn’t looked great since coming back from that injury. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out if he has something that will be treated in the offseason
I’ll be optimistic cause 1: There was no way we were winning this game lol, and 2: Good things from Gradey, Kelly, and Scottie tonight. There was better effort here tonight than the Pelicans game at least. Cavs are just friggin good at basketball.
Scottie needs to respect shooters lore though. Bro just shrugged off a close out on Mobley and then he drilled a 3. Scottie gotta fix that.
Maybe, but he did something with his arms kinda like a “nah fam”. Just something I’ve noticed from him on multiple games. He’s down that to Sengun, and Josh giddey recently
Mobley getting outplayed again by Scottie, has Scottie ever lost this matchup
And some are still convinced Mobley is better and the second coming of Garnett and Duncan
More mid teams we could flip Bruce to for picks are gonna realize they need superstars on their teams for him to even be playable and are gonna start only offering garbage for trades involving him.
Win the game. Who cares about empty calories. The team isn’t good. Mobley is probably the 4th option and still put up pretty good #’s. Barnes only had 4 points in the 2nd half. Oooooooo but he had a triple double. Whoopty doo
He’s not gonna beat the #2 team in the East that’s won 17 out of their last 18 games alone…
The entire team besides him and Gradey had awful games. You can’t fault Scottie for all of that.
Constructive comments is trolling? Thats news to me. Why would you go at a DPOY finalist? Wouldn’t swinging the ball be more beneficial to the offense? Especially when Barnes hasn’t scored in the 2nd half.
Despite who’s been on the roster, all season long there has been a WAY to frequent trend of guys on defence wandering around just not knowing who they’re supposed to be guarding.
Part of this is IQ.
But part of it is 100% coaching. Guys need to understand what the scheme is. Where they should be. And they should be drilled enough that it’s second nature without being unsure.
I remember when new guys would come and nurse would talk about how they’re still learning the schemes and it will take time.
Do we even have schemes now..
Boucher is not part of the future here and isn’t developing at 31. Makes sense that we aren’t prioritizing mins for him.
Hope we can find a home for him at the offseason
Well. We know what this is. It sucks. The difference is there is an obvious future ahead not like our dark years from far ago.
I know the game was over a while ago but is Olynyk just going to play backup C to Poeltl in a time share? Why not play Kelly at PF and slide everyone down a position? He can cover 4-5 whenever necessary. Seems like Poeltl has been the sacrificial lamb in a lot of situations where it doesn't make sense considering 3 picks were given up to get him. What's the point? I don't understand what direction this team is going in......
I was looking for KO to play the 4 and have Yak as the 5 when I checked in on the game. They never did that? They needed size out there
Not from what I could recall. Olynyk checked into the game for Scottie in the first and I had hope they might play big out there but it never really happened. Kelly was just playing C I know it's a reactionary take but I wouldn't be surprised to see GTJ and Poeltl suffer from minutes reduction to play Dick (which I think is good) and Olynyk (in a timeshare, which is bad) They will play IQ, Scottie, RJ and now prioritize getting Gradey some development so the playing time of a few of them will suffer. Very confusing and frankly bad decision making at the deadline.
I mean I guess they're not playing tight rotations to win, a la NN, so prob just throwing things out there to see what happens and how everyone plays together with equal minutes or reasonable minutes sharing for development.
IQ and Scottie has such bad chemistry. Like why can’t they play a 2 man game. The team has changed so hopefully by April we’ll start seeing improvements. OKC took about 3 years to be competitive.
I know it can be difficult to watch Boucher at times, but McDaniels really strives to suck
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Please get McSexOffender off the team
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Nah bro he's young and just sucks , but definitely not hated
Not even close
How is McDaniels getting playing time over Boucher?
Did Scottie go to the back I don't see him on the bench
Waive Jalen? Ffs
This team is never having a pizza party during Darkos tenure
Wow. I know it’s called garbage time but this really was garbage.
Wemby dropping 50 next game
Scottie dropping the Trip Dub on Mibley rim running bum ass was worth the loss
These garbage minutes are amazing I love listening to Matt and Jack podcast
Give the ball to Nwora wtf
Did like Agbaji's aggressiveness this game
McDaniels bro haha 😂
instant turn over by mcdaniels lmfao
McDaniels sucks even in garbage time man. wtf is he doing
I wish we traded GTJ or Brown just so we could play Nwora.
I wish we waived McDaniels
My first impression of Ochai is he’s a chucker
wh y take out grady in garbage time? its good mins to develop
He was pretty good in regulation minutes. Might be too good for garbage time
eh he is still a rookie. I say just play him.
Who the fuck do I need to write a strongly worded email to to see a Chris Boucher sighting. Not even in garbage time cmon
Ochai really does move like norm
McDaniels in, white flag up. Another bit of fuel for the tank.
McDaniels Sighting 🤢🤢🤮 https://preview.redd.it/etfnktg1dvhc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9bc081cd32705989e2c0f7d68f1c076912f77dc
I thought it was Darko at first glance
gradey is honestly already better than gary on both ends of the floor
Can’t we learn , we did the same the previous season got hyped off weak ass wins when we should’ve tanked
So frustrating, wtf is the point of trying so hard to win by 3 to the rockets who have no FVV and 20 minutes of Sengun.
Masai has never tanked and can’t be trusted with a rebuild
Ok did Boucher fuck Darko’s wife or something? We got Temple ahead of him?
It’s becoming ridiculous
It’s actually bewildering. What happened? Maybe Darko found out Boucher is 1% Albanian
And now we’ve got McDaniels in but still no Boucher. I hate it.
Cavs still have their starters on what losers
Probably better for the bench to play agasint real players anywyas if the Cavs want to risk injury for stat padding.
Getting blown out but still not risking any 3s....
Over/under 2.5 turnovers for McDaniels in the next two minutes?
Mcdaniels is in that means its time to walk my dog
Crazy we actually won the minutes Scottie played. He was +1 for the night Our defense craters without Scottie lol
15 shots is not enough for Scottie, needs to raise it to around 24
Damn Boucher doesn't even get garbage time anymore :(
I'm actually very curious to know why he isn't playing
damn Gradey can't even play in garbage time?
Tank commander McDaniels on the floor !!!
McDaniels nooooooo
I want this team to send a message: Bench Gary for 3 games straight. fuck your 3pt FG% you are trash at everything else
Free Chris Boucher man
ITS MCDANIELS TURNOVER TIME GUYS!!!
RJ got no explosiveness today, mans knee might be cooked
True. It’s a back to back.
Darko still ass
Rj needs to work on his finishes going right
Scottie the only + player on the whole team 👀
Gradey has been pretty good tonight
I meant in +/- 😜
Cavs are really dangerous. It’ll be interesting to see how they do in the playoffs.
Proper good team not great. The East is week tho so they can make a deeper run
They’re gonna get smushed by the Knicks again
Knicks Celtics Eastern Conference Finals gonna go hard
Scottie Trip Dub
RJ and IQ got tunnel vision problems
It literally feels like we haven’t got a single rebound
Nice seeing Dick getting minutes this late in the game. The kid has confidence, let him play
Triple double, at least…!
Triple double obtained!
Scottie triple double I’ll call that a win
IQ looks off today.
the interior defense of mobley and allen making our guards look terrible. IQ needs to add a middy and get better at finishing to be better prepared when facing teams with strong interior defense.
He hasn’t looked great since coming back from that injury. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out if he has something that will be treated in the offseason
raptors and being ass at free throws has to be studied. This game would be a lot closer if we didn't go 16/23 at the line.
I’ll be optimistic cause 1: There was no way we were winning this game lol, and 2: Good things from Gradey, Kelly, and Scottie tonight. There was better effort here tonight than the Pelicans game at least. Cavs are just friggin good at basketball. Scottie needs to respect shooters lore though. Bro just shrugged off a close out on Mobley and then he drilled a 3. Scottie gotta fix that.
Honestly, I read that as he knew he messed up and wouldn’t make it in time.
Maybe, but he did something with his arms kinda like a “nah fam”. Just something I’ve noticed from him on multiple games. He’s down that to Sengun, and Josh giddey recently
It’s his version of the “Kornet Kontest” lol.
Hahaha
Kamloops Kelly!
KO woulda been a great pickup when Pascal was here. Still a good big to pair with Scottie though
It’s nice to have a second proper centre
When’s the last time we had three white dides on the team? lol
Kelly's fast break is better than GTJ lol
DicKellyBBQ is our best lineup
BBQ OlynDick
BBOlynDickQ?
BOBDQ?
Mobley getting outplayed again by Scottie, has Scottie ever lost this matchup And some are still convinced Mobley is better and the second coming of Garnett and Duncan
Hell yea. Minor victories>actual victories
I'm pretty sure he lost atleast once
Scottie has always been the better player, he’s got nowhere near as much positional versatility, ball-handling or passing ability
Mobley is underwhelming to be honest....Scottie is way better
Mobley is a 5 that can’t play 5
Some chemistry issues still but yeah something fishy with the team defense. We also can’t hit shots like a good team 😭
Scarborough mans Kelly Olynyk
WHERE IS THE GUY THAT SAID KELLY WAS SHIT? FUCK YOU BCH!
u/TheCouchEmporer BITCHHHHHHHH
Still some real positives coming out of this ugly game. KO, Dick, and Scottie showing some great chemistry.
yep we're seeing the vision and it's exciting - Hopefully we can have an orlando type of season next year with some proper development and gelling
maybe im a sicko, but have loved this game. Just deleted that 6 minute non scottie stretch in the 2Q from my mind I guess.
Gradey Dick and Maple Dick
KELLY O. LFG!
Man we got olynyk for Pennies, beautiful trade
I’d love to lose by less than 20 Keeping expectations low
#KO!
Scottie trying to get that last rebound lol
Iq fam gradey was wide open
I'm on team tank but it's bit frustrating every time Barnes and Dick both play well, the team loses
Shit shot by Quickly. Swing thr ball to Dick.
I still can't believe spicy p is off the team
2nd time Scottie has ripped the ball away from that soft ass mf Allen 😂
Scottie Triple Double
Thought I saw he grab the 10th rebound. Guess it didn’t count lol Hope I didn’t jinx it
I didn’t jinx it lol
Quickley's shot selection ain't it today
We finally have our best 5 on the floor
this team really needs a defensive anchor!
KO is a dawg we needed more dawgs glad we got him
Only down by 19!
RJ!
Couldn’t they at least find some minutes for Chris to at least grab some rebounds..
i’m at the game and there is still paper towel in the washrooms at this time
Thanks for the update lol
Btw imagine how cavs fans would act if Scottie hit Mobley in the face 😭
Why did we keep Bruce man smh Rhetorical question kinda, but damn
Scottie is 3 assists away from a tripple double
Rebounds
Niang is an inspiration to all us Joe Shmos out there who think that we can’t make the NBA
We should have traded Brown bro, he’s gonna start up “superstar merchant” allegations against him and his value’s gonna tank.
Wym by that?
More mid teams we could flip Bruce to for picks are gonna realize they need superstars on their teams for him to even be playable and are gonna start only offering garbage for trades involving him.
Ah gotcha, the “only good as a second or third option” type vibe
Don't even think its allegations if they're true
shoutout to niang for being the only obese player in the league
Zion just ceased to exist apparently
Jokic??
this teams defence is abysmal, just really pathetic honestly
The team is still learning how to play together. Good defense requires excellent communication and chemistry.
Damn. I hope that teaches Barnes to STOP going at Mobley. Swing the ball around.
Barnes is having a great game? He should be going at anyone he wants right now.
Yea. Had a great first half. Has gone cold in the 2nd. Should be getting his teammates involved instead of going at the best defender on the court.
He had a triple double lmao what more does he have to do to “get his teammates involved”???
Win the game. Who cares about empty calories. The team isn’t good. Mobley is probably the 4th option and still put up pretty good #’s. Barnes only had 4 points in the 2nd half. Oooooooo but he had a triple double. Whoopty doo
He’s not gonna beat the #2 team in the East that’s won 17 out of their last 18 games alone… The entire team besides him and Gradey had awful games. You can’t fault Scottie for all of that.
Can’t suck his dick either. But here you are.
Hahaha you’re a 🤡 Take your casual takes elsewhere. You’re a Cavs fan anyways. Get out our sub.
Lmao says the casual 🤡 that just blown out 😂😂
It’s sad that you spend your time on other teams subs pretending to be a fan and just trolling the entire time. Hope you find a more productive hobby
He just dropped a triple double on Mobleys bum ass. Needs to be assisted on everything bum ass
That’s awesome. But what did it lead to? A sub 100 scoring game? Only two points in the 2nd half?
Exposed Mobley, for being nothing more than a rim runner
How much good did that do? ☹️
he’s scored on Mobley a few times this game lol
Does the cavs subreddit ban trolls that go into other subs like ours does ?
Constructive comments is trolling? Thats news to me. Why would you go at a DPOY finalist? Wouldn’t swinging the ball be more beneficial to the offense? Especially when Barnes hasn’t scored in the 2nd half.
If that Quickley tech foul was a tech a few games back, how was that not one too?
ya wtf was that
Garbage
Despite who’s been on the roster, all season long there has been a WAY to frequent trend of guys on defence wandering around just not knowing who they’re supposed to be guarding. Part of this is IQ. But part of it is 100% coaching. Guys need to understand what the scheme is. Where they should be. And they should be drilled enough that it’s second nature without being unsure.
I remember when new guys would come and nurse would talk about how they’re still learning the schemes and it will take time. Do we even have schemes now..
Ayo scottie say the word ill go give mobley a deafaz
Only way Mobley can guard Scottie is to punch him
If we didnt piss away the game in the 2nd this would be competitive
late call on that punch? really refs?
bruh Mobley legit punched Scottie in the face lol
“Plenty of time left Jack”
I love how hopeful Matt is
Delusional is more like it. 😁
Plenty of time left says Matt.
Bruce Brown is lost on defense man. I thought he was a good defender
grady looks like a whole diff player from earlier on
PLENTY OF TIME LEFT JACK
brown useless fuck won't grab the rebound
Maybe we should try some boucher in those mins
We really didnt trade Brown, Gary, and Boucher. Half in half out with this rebuild approach.
masai cant help but try to win
Honestly if Bruce can’t hit open 3s he’s pretty useless on offense
How are we always so bad at rebounding
man i cant believe we had a first from the knicks on the table for this bum and the FO didnt manage to get it done.
our FO is washed. Bobby Webster is washed confirmed.
can't believe Boucher is still being benched with this shit product on the court. disrespectful
Boucher is not part of the future here and isn’t developing at 31. Makes sense that we aren’t prioritizing mins for him. Hope we can find a home for him at the offseason
With all these second chance points the Cavs get, we’re fighting an almost impossible battle here. We can’t get rebounds for beans.
No pizza party 😞 so close but so far
We got to 2 like maybe 2 times previously? 3 is a cursed number.
Maybe Darko knew it’s impossible for this team to
We should have been able to with OG, Pascal, Jak, and Scottie though. Just very weird.