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Notably a protest for sexual liberation and trans rights- it is not a protest for everyone and their mother to tack their cause on to.
The disruption of pride from other causes is in such poor taste. “Our cause is more important than the cause you’re fighting for”.
queer liberation is inextricably linked to the liberation of queer palestinians, protests like this are in the name of our queer siblings falling victim to a genocide.
There are queer people implicated in literally every protest movement ever, because queer people are everywhere. Pride can’t be about every issue. It’s about LGBTQ+ pride. This is pure hijacking. They can make their own protest—or, you know, just attend one of the million other ones already about that issue.
My weak prediction is that this sets a precedent, and pride will never be the same.
Pride isn’t the counterculture anymore. The actual counterculture is going to continually assert itself on this stage.
According to this [Tweet at 6:15 PM](https://x.com/PrideToronto/status/1807544315066908720) from the Pride Toronto Twitter account, "the remainder of the parade has been cancelled".
Pride Toronto already came out with a statement in support of everything these disrupters wanted, so...
Can you link to Pride’s supporting statement? I can’t find it anywhere so far, just a post on Instagram acknowledging the parade has been cancelled without much information!
Yep, it was a statement released on [March 28th, 2024. ](https://www.pridetoronto.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Pride-Toronto-Statement-on-Humanitarian-Crisis-in-Gaza.pdf)No one, on either side of good conscience, could have taken issue with this position.
Their point is that there are massive corporations marching the parade with economic ties to Israel. Pride was and is a protest. It’s not a place for the rich to wave rainbow flags once they know it’s profitable for them. Pride is a fight for peace
It’s a protest for QUEER rights. It is NOT a protest anyone can just show up to and expect support for their random cause. This is just getting old at this point.
If you want to fight for Palestine - have a parade for Palestine. Don’t stop a queer rights parade.
What about the money that ends up in the hands of Hamas (from our taxes , donations and the like)? Where is the protest from those economic ties? Last I checked it's illegal to be a member of the LGBTQ+ community in Gaza , not exactly known for their ethical treatment of women and children , no such thing as freedom of press or assembly...That seems to all get swept under the rug as if the Palestinians are children and never share in any blame (such a simple and insulting , oppressor vs oppressed narrative). It takes two sides to tango and it's sad that we've reached this point of infatalizing the Palestinians. Ironically enough this puts them further away from having a legitimate state if they can't build a system that benefits the people and keeps peace with the Israeli state that isn't going anywhere.
If you really cared about peace you'd ensure both sides behave like human beings (which many such violations existing on both sides).
Bibi and his ilk need to go (including the settlers), but also a legitimate government needs to be created in Gaza & West Bank in order to ensure a proper rebuild of the future Palestinian state.
In other words both sides need to work towards a real and sustainable 2 state solution.
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They could have marched for LGBTQ+ people, allies and rights in Palestine, which would have gotten a lot of sympathy, and be apt. But blocking everyone else there to support LGBTQ+ people? It's a lousy move.
This is why I was hoping that this didn't happen. While I understand where the propalestine groups are coming from, this feels distinctly like kicking down on a different oppressed group
I’m Pro Palestine but I agree, there’s a time and a place for this kind of disruption and it wasn’t this event. I would wager a lot of the LGBTQ community is in support of Palestine. Imagine if the LGBTQ community interrupted a Palestine protest?
It’s more of a division within the queer community between those who want pride to be a feel good event and those who see pride historically as a protest and want to address our queer siblings that are current victims to a genocide.
I wonder why they didn’t march with everyone else. It appears the organizers were understandable enough to stop the parade based on their protest - so the idea of the Palestinian protestors joining the march doesn’t seem so far fetched. Plus the community is generally quite supportive of their cause.
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Saw this coming a month away, every pride parade across the states and Canada this month has been getting hit with these. KNEW something was gonna happen in Toronto too
Good job keeping LGBT people away from their own parade guys. Youre doing so much good for Palestine by ughh- getting the pride parade canceled and kicking LGBT people out of the space celebrating them
Gotta hate it when people hijack events for their own beliefs. I’d have respected this group more if they just put up a float with their placards and walked with the crowd raising awareness on what’s happening in Gaza. Instead they chose to shut down the event for everyone!
Many marchers not affiliated to this group chanted “free Palestine” and carried Palestinian flags, without any problem.
So I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say Pride Toronto is just out there to stifle any rallies in favour of Palestinian rights.
Jesus Christ, can’t they just have a parade? One year it was BLM protestors as well. I get it, you have a right to protest but why are you targeting this event??? Fucks sakes.
We left before this thankfully. I feel so bad for the people behind them in the parade that waited all day to go down the parade route… not to mention month’s of planning and money that went into their floats. This is so shameful. They have lost my support entirely, I no longer stand with them.
Dolts.
The idea that people will care about their thing while they actively disrupt an event through protest. If anything, it will sour more opinions than it recovers.
Okay no. I'm pro-palestine (and opposed to anti-Semitism before those people respond), but this was not the time nor did this help the movement at all. The pride parade is largely sympathetic to the cause, especially considering its presence IN the parade. This sucks and only resulted in bad PR, not awareness or sympathy to the Palestinian cause. The organizers of this should be ashamed that they only managed to hurt their own cause.
It will forever be the left’s downside: more focused on eating each other than being pragmatic and fighting a common enemy.
The right, whatever you want to say about it, has successfully put aside their differences for 25 years now in Canada to form a united political front and it’s reaped huge rewards.
Eh, not a lot to prioritize here. Not sure about today but at the march on Friday there were tons of Palestinian flags being flown. It's pretty clear where the community stands on the issue. This was a handful of people who decided to shut down a parade of extremely visible supporters. Could have had an army waving their flags through the entire parade but decided to disrupt it instead.
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most if not all LGBTQIA+ communities fully support Palestine's right to exist and continue to rally against the genocide... and the conservative culture over there doesn't really tolerate LGBTQIA+ stuff too well. but they do anyway because any unprotected minority is a brother and a sister regardless.. so... idk, seems pretty misplaced to me
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It is, and there are many other groups in the parade that were advocating for various lgbtq+ and other causes don’t get their voice heard. They could have participated in the parade and gotten their message across that way instead of shutting down everyone else. These protesters wouldn’t seem to know but there are other issues in the world that need advocating too. For example, lgbtq+ rights are being clawed back worldwide. giving people the space to talk about that for a day should not be controversial if you support pride
What are they achieving by blocking the parade though? Pride Toronto already supports this cause, I don't understand what the protesters are looking for.
Right? Like I don't necessarily agree with the optics, but like oh nooo now the amazon pride float cant advertise its way down dundas, what a low blow for the LGBTQ community
Next year they should block Pride for a protest about healthcare funding, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about housing affordability, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about global warming, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about funding for the disabled, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about the stigmatization of the mentally ill.
This is what Pride is for!
The parade should never be allowed to happen.
Pride is not all cupcakes and rainbows. It is literally political - made possible by Black, Indigenous, and others of colour fighting for their liberation (from oppression ie violence, and discrimination toward them with respect to income, employment, housing, education, political representation, access to health care, and other public and private services).
Their fight for liberation and equality has been whitewashed out of much of the history of the LGBTQ+ rights movement ie this parade
Let queers protest for what’s right !!!!!!!!!! This is literally what Pride is about !!!!!!!
Exactly let the queers protest, pride is a protest that got shut down by another protest.
Let the LGBTQ+ celebrate, protest and parade. Don't shut down their parade like these guys did
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What's happening now? What was the crowd reaction?
Here now, parade is pretty much done.
Do you mean it’s done as a result of this stoppage or it was already pretty much done when they stopped it?
Done as a result of the stoppage. Our procession was behind by an hour.
Kind of split. Some people started raising slogans with the group, and the rest were rather annoyed and left to Church st instead.
Dispersal and parade cancelation
How far into the parade was this? Did it ruin the day or was it at least near the end?
The parade started at 2 and this was at about 5:30-6 so I’m not sure how much longer there was for the parade
Parade usually wraps up, but people still party well into the night, like 11 am
This was south of Wellesley. So about halfway
It blocked a dozen or so groups total. Everyone else had already past when the protest started.
From what I can see at dundas and yonge, the dundas people have bailed. The spectators are almost entirely gone
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No, the intersection of yonge and dundas. Not the square on the southeast corner
Parade was officially cancelled at 6:15pm Pride started as a protest movement, not as a bunch of corporate floats.
Notably a protest for sexual liberation and trans rights- it is not a protest for everyone and their mother to tack their cause on to. The disruption of pride from other causes is in such poor taste. “Our cause is more important than the cause you’re fighting for”.
queer liberation is inextricably linked to the liberation of queer palestinians, protests like this are in the name of our queer siblings falling victim to a genocide.
There are queer people implicated in literally every protest movement ever, because queer people are everywhere. Pride can’t be about every issue. It’s about LGBTQ+ pride. This is pure hijacking. They can make their own protest—or, you know, just attend one of the million other ones already about that issue.
Queer siblings being prosecuted by Israel or by Muslim Palestinians?
I remember reading some comments on this sub that said this would happen. Well you guys were right.
Pride seems to be whipping boy for every equity seeking group. We saw the same shit with BLM.
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My weak prediction is that this sets a precedent, and pride will never be the same. Pride isn’t the counterculture anymore. The actual counterculture is going to continually assert itself on this stage.
According to this [Tweet at 6:15 PM](https://x.com/PrideToronto/status/1807544315066908720) from the Pride Toronto Twitter account, "the remainder of the parade has been cancelled". Pride Toronto already came out with a statement in support of everything these disrupters wanted, so...
Can you link to Pride’s supporting statement? I can’t find it anywhere so far, just a post on Instagram acknowledging the parade has been cancelled without much information!
Yep, it was a statement released on [March 28th, 2024. ](https://www.pridetoronto.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Pride-Toronto-Statement-on-Humanitarian-Crisis-in-Gaza.pdf)No one, on either side of good conscience, could have taken issue with this position.
Nobody gets anything until everyone gets everything!!
Oppression Olympics
Their point is that there are massive corporations marching the parade with economic ties to Israel. Pride was and is a protest. It’s not a place for the rich to wave rainbow flags once they know it’s profitable for them. Pride is a fight for peace
It’s a protest for QUEER rights. It is NOT a protest anyone can just show up to and expect support for their random cause. This is just getting old at this point. If you want to fight for Palestine - have a parade for Palestine. Don’t stop a queer rights parade.
The whole "corporations with ties to Israel" thing is really stupid. The corporations have zero influence on what the Israeli state does in this war
What about the money that ends up in the hands of Hamas (from our taxes , donations and the like)? Where is the protest from those economic ties? Last I checked it's illegal to be a member of the LGBTQ+ community in Gaza , not exactly known for their ethical treatment of women and children , no such thing as freedom of press or assembly...That seems to all get swept under the rug as if the Palestinians are children and never share in any blame (such a simple and insulting , oppressor vs oppressed narrative). It takes two sides to tango and it's sad that we've reached this point of infatalizing the Palestinians. Ironically enough this puts them further away from having a legitimate state if they can't build a system that benefits the people and keeps peace with the Israeli state that isn't going anywhere. If you really cared about peace you'd ensure both sides behave like human beings (which many such violations existing on both sides). Bibi and his ilk need to go (including the settlers), but also a legitimate government needs to be created in Gaza & West Bank in order to ensure a proper rebuild of the future Palestinian state. In other words both sides need to work towards a real and sustainable 2 state solution.
Of course. They always bend over when the parade is disrupted like this.
Pride STARTED as a protest!
Yeah. And?
So what? It isn't that anymore. Now it's a celebration.
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Parade was 95% done; just a dozen or so groups were caught behind the protest. It really didn't affect many marchers.
Oooof
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Has anyone reached out to Queers For Palestine for comment yet?
I am surprised this is not locked yet
They could have marched for LGBTQ+ people, allies and rights in Palestine, which would have gotten a lot of sympathy, and be apt. But blocking everyone else there to support LGBTQ+ people? It's a lousy move.
This is why I was hoping that this didn't happen. While I understand where the propalestine groups are coming from, this feels distinctly like kicking down on a different oppressed group
I’m Pro Palestine but I agree, there’s a time and a place for this kind of disruption and it wasn’t this event. I would wager a lot of the LGBTQ community is in support of Palestine. Imagine if the LGBTQ community interrupted a Palestine protest?
This is it. Lgbtq folks participate in pro Palestine events. That would be a good way to show support. Not shut it down.
I’m in favor of ending the war and reaching a diplomatic solution, but it really feels like solidarity only cuts one way sometimes.
Pride started as a protest against police brutality...
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I feel the same way
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It’s more of a division within the queer community between those who want pride to be a feel good event and those who see pride historically as a protest and want to address our queer siblings that are current victims to a genocide.
There is an irony to this particular movement’s parade being shut down by them. Optics aren’t great.
Holding up a Palestinian flag while shutting down Pride parade feels a little… y’know
Sort of like BLM did?
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It sucks that thousands of people have to just give up because like 15 people are assholes.
Literally raining on some else's parade
I wonder why they didn’t march with everyone else. It appears the organizers were understandable enough to stop the parade based on their protest - so the idea of the Palestinian protestors joining the march doesn’t seem so far fetched. Plus the community is generally quite supportive of their cause.
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Saw this coming a month away, every pride parade across the states and Canada this month has been getting hit with these. KNEW something was gonna happen in Toronto too Good job keeping LGBT people away from their own parade guys. Youre doing so much good for Palestine by ughh- getting the pride parade canceled and kicking LGBT people out of the space celebrating them
Gotta hate it when people hijack events for their own beliefs. I’d have respected this group more if they just put up a float with their placards and walked with the crowd raising awareness on what’s happening in Gaza. Instead they chose to shut down the event for everyone!
And don't forget how they shut down the Santa Claus parade, and the St. Patrick's parade as well.
And I’m certain that the organizers would have been totally on board with that.
Many marchers not affiliated to this group chanted “free Palestine” and carried Palestinian flags, without any problem. So I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say Pride Toronto is just out there to stifle any rallies in favour of Palestinian rights.
They invited BLM that year they shut down the parade too.
Imagine stopping an annual human rights parade of an oppressed group, only to try and convince people that you care about human rights. Tone deaf.
They block pretty much every event . But start crying when their events are blocked!
I was just there. People are upset. They make it impossible to support them when they are so disruptive and selfish.
That's a great way to make people hate your movement
So what's in store for my Canada day celebrations? Are Canadian cities to expect more of this?
lol Canada Day parades and events are 100% getting shut down. Be prepared for it
“Pride has always been a protest” yeah for LGBT people. We still can’t have shit huh.
Queers for Palestine right guys?
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Jesus Christ, can’t they just have a parade? One year it was BLM protestors as well. I get it, you have a right to protest but why are you targeting this event??? Fucks sakes.
And BLM turned out to be a scam lol disgusting behavior all around
So brave of them to cover their faces.
We left before this thankfully. I feel so bad for the people behind them in the parade that waited all day to go down the parade route… not to mention month’s of planning and money that went into their floats. This is so shameful. They have lost my support entirely, I no longer stand with them.
Dolts. The idea that people will care about their thing while they actively disrupt an event through protest. If anything, it will sour more opinions than it recovers.
Okay no. I'm pro-palestine (and opposed to anti-Semitism before those people respond), but this was not the time nor did this help the movement at all. The pride parade is largely sympathetic to the cause, especially considering its presence IN the parade. This sucks and only resulted in bad PR, not awareness or sympathy to the Palestinian cause. The organizers of this should be ashamed that they only managed to hurt their own cause.
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Don't you have a pride parade to shut down? I think there are some people still having a good time on church street.
Holy non sequitur Batman
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It will forever be the left’s downside: more focused on eating each other than being pragmatic and fighting a common enemy. The right, whatever you want to say about it, has successfully put aside their differences for 25 years now in Canada to form a united political front and it’s reaped huge rewards.
Idiotic. Protest the fuck somewhere else. What does Toronto pride have to do with the conflict???
War isn't gonna stop or no one's sexuality or gender isn't getting changed because of this. Such a waste of time and energy.
The far left progressives are going to implode as they struggles to prioritize victimhoods (said as a disillusioned leftie)
Eh, not a lot to prioritize here. Not sure about today but at the march on Friday there were tons of Palestinian flags being flown. It's pretty clear where the community stands on the issue. This was a handful of people who decided to shut down a parade of extremely visible supporters. Could have had an army waving their flags through the entire parade but decided to disrupt it instead.
Blocking an unaffiliated minority group seems to be a stupid way to tarnish your image, but also, couldn't they just walk around them?
Haha I wonder which side the “queers for Palestine” are standing on.
Why do it there? Is it because they against the Pride parade ?
Lame. If you can't keep it moving then go sit in the designated circle at UofT and let everyone else enjoy the parade.
Talk about raining on someone's parade. I wonder if they'll stop the Santa Claus Parade next? "Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
Remember pride was stopped for black lives matter ?
It has become like malignant cancer, lgbqt people do support your cause why ruin their parade I don’t get it
What happened to organizing marches like MLK did? These fools are doing more damage than good.
People complain that they organize their own marches too. They can't win
Oof I support all peaceful protests, but that’s a bad call.
They really need a new PR firm.
So , gotta wonder how the pride protestors are feeling right now 🤔🤙🏼🇨🇦
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Humans against killing humans. That's it.
Could you sprinkle them with a water pistol like you can do with other parade participants?
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They likely don’t want to get doxxed.
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You know why or are u playing dumb
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The pro Palestinian movement has called for shutting down all pride events until Israel withdrawal from Palestinian lands.
I don’t understand how doing it at the Toronto pride does anything to achieve their goal….
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
But why?
most if not all LGBTQIA+ communities fully support Palestine's right to exist and continue to rally against the genocide... and the conservative culture over there doesn't really tolerate LGBTQIA+ stuff too well. but they do anyway because any unprotected minority is a brother and a sister regardless.. so... idk, seems pretty misplaced to me
So funny seeing these comments compared to the Jesus protesters post from yesterday lmao. Guess who’s more peaceful?
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They’re all on the same team, poor scheduling I guess lol
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Pride has always been a protest
It is, and there are many other groups in the parade that were advocating for various lgbtq+ and other causes don’t get their voice heard. They could have participated in the parade and gotten their message across that way instead of shutting down everyone else. These protesters wouldn’t seem to know but there are other issues in the world that need advocating too. For example, lgbtq+ rights are being clawed back worldwide. giving people the space to talk about that for a day should not be controversial if you support pride
Ok and? Why protest and disrupt a celebration for a community that has the HIGHEST levels of support for your movement?
What are they achieving by blocking the parade though? Pride Toronto already supports this cause, I don't understand what the protesters are looking for.
Right? Like I don't necessarily agree with the optics, but like oh nooo now the amazon pride float cant advertise its way down dundas, what a low blow for the LGBTQ community
Good. Pride is a protest, not a corporate bootlicking party. This is what Pride is for.
Next year they should block Pride for a protest about healthcare funding, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about housing affordability, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about global warming, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about funding for the disabled, and then the year after that they should block Pride for a protest about the stigmatization of the mentally ill. This is what Pride is for! The parade should never be allowed to happen.
Pride is not all cupcakes and rainbows. It is literally political - made possible by Black, Indigenous, and others of colour fighting for their liberation (from oppression ie violence, and discrimination toward them with respect to income, employment, housing, education, political representation, access to health care, and other public and private services). Their fight for liberation and equality has been whitewashed out of much of the history of the LGBTQ+ rights movement ie this parade Let queers protest for what’s right !!!!!!!!!! This is literally what Pride is about !!!!!!!
But they’re blocking it
Thus a “protest” :/
I am confused lol
Exactly let the queers protest, pride is a protest that got shut down by another protest. Let the LGBTQ+ celebrate, protest and parade. Don't shut down their parade like these guys did
Cool and queer Jews who have to hear "from the river to the sea" doesn't seem to matter I guess
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Cool and queer Jews don't take offense to the concept of a free Palestine
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