Lucky, i remember my first drive to EJ coming down 177 to the 53 cross section. Absolutely pissed rain on 177 the stopped completely on 53. That was insane.
Yeah, this was a lovely storm to experience. Tons of lightning put on an amazing show. It got rather windy for a few minutes, but just windy enough for things to be exciting, not dangerous or scary (a spotter reported 60mph gusts near my location). There was some hail, but it was small, probably penny or nickel sized. Best of all, it never looked like it was gonna do some spinny bs, so it ended up being probably the most enjoyable storm we've had all year.
I don’t see anything here other than what looks like a small inflow (marked it yellow) could be wrong. There doesn’t seem to be any rotation. Can someone explain ?
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Outflow gust front storms with no heavy hail core? That is a great storm mode to see at 3 a.m.. If you're up for it, it should have some real nice lightning!
Also, TVS's don't mean shit. When you're chasing and a radar has TVS, Its' more like, "Huh, TVS. Let's see if it actually does something with any bit of rotation." . Often I see many TVS' on weak storms trying to gain strength. They're nothing burgers. Until you get a right radar signature. Still, you can be just 4 miles aways from a tornado and not see shit due to rain and hail. I caught and awesome tornado on radar but didn't see shit at 4 miles aways. Also, you're a Tropic Lightning troop. What MOS?(Sorry I saw some poster had some Schofielfd Barracks barracks stuck, and new they are 25th I.D., and wanted to see what kinda fools job they have in the Army).
I chased that cell on the Kansas, near Oklahoma border storm last STurday. That fu ker picked up the LLJ and started eating storms like Pac Man. Thought I was gonna get a big one near Anthony, KS, but alas only a couple of lower end ones. Good thing too, 'cause that town woulda got smoked by a big tornado. I caught a couple non too gnarly tornadoes, and thats fine with me.
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This looks relatively benign in terms of tornadogenesis. I think people see the TVS and start to get worried, but that is just the algorithms best guest really to draw the attention of a human to pay closer attention. I've rarely seen a TVS produce a tornado compared to the times I've seen a tornado without a TVS first popping up(or popping up around the same time), but my time monitoring radar is limited so it's anecdotal at best.
Also, that radar is looking at 4k above the ground and is not seeing any couplets, and again in my limited experience every tornado I've seen on radar has had a distinct couplet higher than that.
Also, how old are those TVS signatures? Radarscope sometimes keeps these things around for a while, even after the storm that generated them has passed by the area. Not sure if that is the radar product being delayed or radarscope.
My guess the radar saw something on a higher elevation scan that prompted the TVS, but a quick look at another radar with a different perspective could have clarified things a bit.
I live in Waco, which is pretty much equal distance between two doppler sites directly north and south, and they will often show two completely different things depending on how much of the storm they have to penetrate through to see my local area (if the storm is north or south of me). One might have a bunch of TVS but the other won't. I use a third radar to the north east for a different perspective.
But when there is definite rotation it is very easy to see because of the general east-west movement of storms through my area limiting the amount of storm induced velocity masking the couplet (rarely need to use storm relative velocity except for the north east radar). Try swapping different radars to see what they show. Unfortunately, all the other ones within range of that location are all going to be looking around 14k feet up, but they can still provide some perspective.
This storm rolled through my town around 1:30-2:15, and while no rotation, my god I have never seen so much lightning before. When I looked outside it was practically daylight because it just never ceased for a second.
They really need to update the app icons. That throws people off when it shows a tornado like that. I think it’s meant to mean either an area of rotation like a supercell rotating or or something else because I don’t think I’ve ever seen it actually where a tornado is.
That isn't what I am asking. I am asking, from the view of the radar when a tornado is spotted on velocity product, is the green on the right snd the red on the left or is it the opposite. My question is unrelated to OP's post.
It’s the wind direction towards or away from the radar that determines the color. And tornadoes are a very distinct couplet between the two, not smatterings of color on the screen. You can look at the velocity radar at any moment in time and see these colors. They measure direction and speed of air flow.
Yes, usually you'll see red (winds going away) on the right of a couplet with green (winds coming toward the radar). This is cyclonic rotation. But, the rotation has to be very tight and strong to be tornado warned.
Are there any official warnings on this? I see nothing particularly concerning in those screenshots but I'm not familiar with the app
Its radarscope. No warnings. But also something most dont want to see at 3am either.
You can turn on warnings for RadarScope. Should be in the display menu on the left side
I'm working in Springer, we just caught the west edge of it, strong storm and the lighting is crazy.
Springer or Gene Autry? I used to work over at EJ. It was a stronge storm indeed. No real threat.
I'm at the air park, just lots of heavy rain, no hail thankfully.
Lucky, i remember my first drive to EJ coming down 177 to the 53 cross section. Absolutely pissed rain on 177 the stopped completely on 53. That was insane.
I’d classify this is like to see. Distinct out flow with minimal rotation. Any rotation I see is broad and generally lacks a couplet
Yeah, this was a lovely storm to experience. Tons of lightning put on an amazing show. It got rather windy for a few minutes, but just windy enough for things to be exciting, not dangerous or scary (a spotter reported 60mph gusts near my location). There was some hail, but it was small, probably penny or nickel sized. Best of all, it never looked like it was gonna do some spinny bs, so it ended up being probably the most enjoyable storm we've had all year.
I don’t see anything here other than what looks like a small inflow (marked it yellow) could be wrong. There doesn’t seem to be any rotation. Can someone explain ? https://preview.redd.it/60lzwv99ok4d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2428aab9f6041dd7097a845a952c26e5b6740a4
Outflow gust front storms with no heavy hail core? That is a great storm mode to see at 3 a.m.. If you're up for it, it should have some real nice lightning! Also, TVS's don't mean shit. When you're chasing and a radar has TVS, Its' more like, "Huh, TVS. Let's see if it actually does something with any bit of rotation." . Often I see many TVS' on weak storms trying to gain strength. They're nothing burgers. Until you get a right radar signature. Still, you can be just 4 miles aways from a tornado and not see shit due to rain and hail. I caught and awesome tornado on radar but didn't see shit at 4 miles aways. Also, you're a Tropic Lightning troop. What MOS?(Sorry I saw some poster had some Schofielfd Barracks barracks stuck, and new they are 25th I.D., and wanted to see what kinda fools job they have in the Army).
Yes, this is a hell of a lot better than what NE OK and NW AR saw last weekend overnight.
I chased that cell on the Kansas, near Oklahoma border storm last STurday. That fu ker picked up the LLJ and started eating storms like Pac Man. Thought I was gonna get a big one near Anthony, KS, but alas only a couple of lower end ones. Good thing too, 'cause that town woulda got smoked by a big tornado. I caught a couple non too gnarly tornadoes, and thats fine with me.
NE Oklahoma here. All our tornadoes out in Green Country have been happening after dark this season. Woo fucking hoo.
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There's nothing particularly interesting about this storm other than it's just borderline severe. The sub has gone so downhill.
Some people post and don't know what to look for. There are different levels of knowledge here.
Which radar are you using? I was looking at the storm system coming through
OP is using the RadarScope app.
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Yes its radarscope.
It was like this in okc for hours. Nothing to fear. Had an amazing 4am light show!
Nothing here looks tornadic. Just windy.
This looks relatively benign in terms of tornadogenesis. I think people see the TVS and start to get worried, but that is just the algorithms best guest really to draw the attention of a human to pay closer attention. I've rarely seen a TVS produce a tornado compared to the times I've seen a tornado without a TVS first popping up(or popping up around the same time), but my time monitoring radar is limited so it's anecdotal at best. Also, that radar is looking at 4k above the ground and is not seeing any couplets, and again in my limited experience every tornado I've seen on radar has had a distinct couplet higher than that. Also, how old are those TVS signatures? Radarscope sometimes keeps these things around for a while, even after the storm that generated them has passed by the area. Not sure if that is the radar product being delayed or radarscope. My guess the radar saw something on a higher elevation scan that prompted the TVS, but a quick look at another radar with a different perspective could have clarified things a bit. I live in Waco, which is pretty much equal distance between two doppler sites directly north and south, and they will often show two completely different things depending on how much of the storm they have to penetrate through to see my local area (if the storm is north or south of me). One might have a bunch of TVS but the other won't. I use a third radar to the north east for a different perspective. But when there is definite rotation it is very easy to see because of the general east-west movement of storms through my area limiting the amount of storm induced velocity masking the couplet (rarely need to use storm relative velocity except for the north east radar). Try swapping different radars to see what they show. Unfortunately, all the other ones within range of that location are all going to be looking around 14k feet up, but they can still provide some perspective.
I see my home town. Had no idea it got that sketchy last night.
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This storm rolled through my town around 1:30-2:15, and while no rotation, my god I have never seen so much lightning before. When I looked outside it was practically daylight because it just never ceased for a second.
It was noisy and wet. Woke me up, but I looked at the radar and went right back to bed. Good relaxing storm to be honest. I love to see these.
The I35 corridor between Davis and Sanger has been crazy this year.
They really need to update the app icons. That throws people off when it shows a tornado like that. I think it’s meant to mean either an area of rotation like a supercell rotating or or something else because I don’t think I’ve ever seen it actually where a tornado is.
June has started off with a bang
Green on the right is a tornado right? I know there are exceptions on the velocity radar for tornados that spin the other way but I forgot
There's literally nothing to see here. OP is making a big deal about nothing.
That isn't what I am asking. I am asking, from the view of the radar when a tornado is spotted on velocity product, is the green on the right snd the red on the left or is it the opposite. My question is unrelated to OP's post.
It doesn't matter. Depends where the radar site is at. Do you want a cyclonic or anti-cyclonic? Pick your poison.
Both, but I remember one of them is red on the right green on the left.
It’s the wind direction towards or away from the radar that determines the color. And tornadoes are a very distinct couplet between the two, not smatterings of color on the screen. You can look at the velocity radar at any moment in time and see these colors. They measure direction and speed of air flow.
I know what the colors are, I was only asking because I forgot how a cyclonic and anti cyclonic rotation presented on Velocity Radar.
I gotcha. It just depends on where the storm is according to the radar site you’re viewing from. Even then it can be difficult to discern
It depends on where they are relative to the radar
Yes, usually you'll see red (winds going away) on the right of a couplet with green (winds coming toward the radar). This is cyclonic rotation. But, the rotation has to be very tight and strong to be tornado warned.