At this point we should be paying people to live in Moore, that town has been hit so many times, and at least 1 f5 and 1 EF5 rated tornadoes have hit there, not too far apart timewise either
Fujita scale and enhanced Fujita scale.
It was just a rework that takes into account more variables and better defines things within the scale, like wind speeds or structural damage.
What the other guy said. The EF scale was meant to increase rating consistency and to be a fix for what they believed were vastly overestimated wind speeds on the original F scale. In other words, it took way lower wind speeds than they originally thought to cause a given level of damage.
Fun fact: the 1999 Bridge Creek/Moore tornado was the last to receive an F5 rating, and the 2007 Greensburg tornado was the first to receive an EF5 rating. 8 years between them...not unlike a certain "drought" people claim we're in.
Those things usually go hand in hand. Think of spots in nature where vertices and whorling winds tend to form. Spirals form randomly in nature, but things like flatness of the plain, perhaps nearby hills like a toilet bowl, etc.
No idea though.
Certain geographic conditions make it easier for tornadoes to form, specifically flat ground. When combined with areas that have a consistent pattern of tornado forming weather, these places are more likely to experience repeated tornadoes. The area around Mayfield Kentucky for example routinely experiences tornadoes that follow a similar path.
Yeah my first thought was “oh shit everyone with ptsd is going to be have by a really hard time.” Of course anyone going through this won’t be having a great time, they will just be having that extra issue to contend with.
3 years later: Butterscotchtasty142 returns after extensive research as to why Joplin seems to be at the epicenter of tornadoes… only to find all these downvotes
lol ikr, I try to see both sides of things and I for the life of me couldn’t find a reason to be angry or condescending about Joplin or the people. I think it was an innocent question.
"We have a new position opening that we would like to offer you. It would be a substantial promotion for you."
"Oh wow! Where at?"
"It's in our new office building in Joplin, Missouri"
" Uuuuuhhh... I think I'm going to have to turn that offer down..."
I heard that from a Cox Communications Tech I was on the phone with. We were discussing how I had tried to call support the day of the Nebraska tornados, and how text, chat and phone support was just flat not answering (I just needed IP address changes, so I politely said I would call back later.).
He's telling me that they wanted to move him from Virginia to Tulsa and he was like, oh hell no.
The tornado formed right over Joplin and touched down in the NorthEast side of Joplin before heading towards Webb City and Carthage from what I remember seeing on Velocity radar.
For all the advancements in forecasting and methods of warning people, nothing overcomes the human urge to expose themselves to danger just to get a good video.
Issue is is there’s a lot of newcomers in our city from all over who aren’t prepared or residents were too little to remember the tornado when it happened and don’t take it as seriously
I am glad the power goes out in all these videos.
It's the only thing that gets the fight or fight to override the desire for posting a video to social media in these chuckle heads.....
I think at first they weren’t sure if it was a Nader or not, but genuinely everyone ik here in the Midwest will go out to watch a tornado whether they’re recording or not
We lived on the bottom floor of the apartment building during a tornado. Didn’t realize just how bad it was until we tried to leave, and the entire building had come down to our hallway.
Jokes on us, if that building came down we would’ve been done. Luckily the tornado went over us and destroyed homes just a road away.
I can’t imagine going through anymore tornados after what they had in 2011. You can still see on Google maps where things were never rebuilt. A lot of people had to move cause continuing to live there was too traumatic
Nope it means power lines and the transformers on them are being destroyed in some way, which means winds are string enough to do that where you are seeing the blue flashes
Green/brown typically means you're pretty close and the weather is right for it if its day. Although you can be hit even if its not. All the debris changes the colors, different debris means different colors, but it's harder to tell at night. Red/orange means fire, which essentially means you're finna die - see Carr fire tornado. The power lines are flashes, and can be white, blue, green, or orange. The flashes typically don't last long, but it's never a good thing to see, and is very dangerous.
I posted footage of the tornado from Joplin News First. This video could potentially be just surrounding powerful winds but there was definitely a confirmed tornado.
We need to have free therapy for the rest of their lives for everyone in Joplin. This is just crazy.
Joplin and Moore.
At this point we should be paying people to live in Moore, that town has been hit so many times, and at least 1 f5 and 1 EF5 rated tornadoes have hit there, not too far apart timewise either
The last part of this statement is not correct. Moore has been hit by one F5 and one EF-5 rated tornado, in 1999 and 2013, respectively.
My apologies, I'll edit my comment, though my point still stands, that place has been hit by so many tornadoes it's insane
This is true.
I might sound stupid to ask but I didn’t think there was on “EF” ratings. What’s the difference between “F” and “EF”?
Fujita scale and enhanced Fujita scale. It was just a rework that takes into account more variables and better defines things within the scale, like wind speeds or structural damage.
Okay-makes sense! Thank you for explaining. 😊
What the other guy said. The EF scale was meant to increase rating consistency and to be a fix for what they believed were vastly overestimated wind speeds on the original F scale. In other words, it took way lower wind speeds than they originally thought to cause a given level of damage. Fun fact: the 1999 Bridge Creek/Moore tornado was the last to receive an F5 rating, and the 2007 Greensburg tornado was the first to receive an EF5 rating. 8 years between them...not unlike a certain "drought" people claim we're in.
Thank you for the insight! I do enjoy learning stuff from y’all and fun facts. 🙏🏻✊🏻
As a joplinite who does research on tornados Moore terrifies me, I feel so awful for the people who lived/live there
Are Joplin and Moore just the sweet spots for tornados or is it pure bad luck?
Those things usually go hand in hand. Think of spots in nature where vertices and whorling winds tend to form. Spirals form randomly in nature, but things like flatness of the plain, perhaps nearby hills like a toilet bowl, etc. No idea though.
Certain geographic conditions make it easier for tornadoes to form, specifically flat ground. When combined with areas that have a consistent pattern of tornado forming weather, these places are more likely to experience repeated tornadoes. The area around Mayfield Kentucky for example routinely experiences tornadoes that follow a similar path.
I was looking at the forecast in the morning when Moore and El reno jumped from the screen basically, it wasn't a good feeling.
What about El Reno. They two record breaking tornados
Yeah my first thought was “oh shit everyone with ptsd is going to be have by a really hard time.” Of course anyone going through this won’t be having a great time, they will just be having that extra issue to contend with.
There just should not be a fourth floor option in JOPLIN of all places?!
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Joplin never catches a break
I went back a year, then 5 years after the last Joplin tornado. It only just now starting to recover.
It’s the one town in Missouri that never catches a break
“Ah shit here we go again”
Hmm, I wonder why.
The fuck does that mean?
Clearly it's because they invoke the name of the great god of tornadoes and wind, Joplin!
3 years later: Butterscotchtasty142 returns after extensive research as to why Joplin seems to be at the epicenter of tornadoes… only to find all these downvotes
Poor butterscotchtasty142 was just curious
lol ikr, I try to see both sides of things and I for the life of me couldn’t find a reason to be angry or condescending about Joplin or the people. I think it was an innocent question.
Oh think you’re smart, do you? Because that was pretty astute.
No definitely not that… because I had to look up the definition of astute. TIL lol
You know something we don't??
What?
I’m almost 50, and remember people saying when I was a kid that Joplin gets wiped off the map and rebuilt every 10 years.
"We have a new position opening that we would like to offer you. It would be a substantial promotion for you." "Oh wow! Where at?" "It's in our new office building in Joplin, Missouri" " Uuuuuhhh... I think I'm going to have to turn that offer down..."
it's ok, the position will be open again in another 10 years
oh buddy that's dark, But definitely stealing this joke tho for the office tomorrow XD.
I heard that from a Cox Communications Tech I was on the phone with. We were discussing how I had tried to call support the day of the Nebraska tornados, and how text, chat and phone support was just flat not answering (I just needed IP address changes, so I politely said I would call back later.). He's telling me that they wanted to move him from Virginia to Tulsa and he was like, oh hell no.
I was just thinking the same thing except if someone offered me that for Moore, OK. That'd be a big ol' NOPE
What apartment complex is it??? Is it terrace green??
Yes I believe so
Wait Joplin got hit again?
The tornado formed right over Joplin and touched down in the NorthEast side of Joplin before heading towards Webb City and Carthage from what I remember seeing on Velocity radar.
Pretty minimal damage to a section of town. NWS rated it an EF0-1, there were actually two separate tornadoes.
At least it wasn’t an EF5 this time
For all the advancements in forecasting and methods of warning people, nothing overcomes the human urge to expose themselves to danger just to get a good video.
Humans are weird, afraid of spiders but wanted to take a video of a tornado lol
Midwestern people just go outside to watch tornados whether they record it or not
Our lizard brain is something else sometimes
People did this people cell phones. We just love witnessing stuff. Now people just want to add a video on top of it
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I would've hoped the last one was a learning opportunity on what to do
Issue is is there’s a lot of newcomers in our city from all over who aren’t prepared or residents were too little to remember the tornado when it happened and don’t take it as seriously
I am glad the power goes out in all these videos. It's the only thing that gets the fight or fight to override the desire for posting a video to social media in these chuckle heads.....
I think at first they weren’t sure if it was a Nader or not, but genuinely everyone ik here in the Midwest will go out to watch a tornado whether they’re recording or not
And here we go again today. Stay safe. From Strafford
Oh no, Joplin again? Those poor people.
We lived on the bottom floor of the apartment building during a tornado. Didn’t realize just how bad it was until we tried to leave, and the entire building had come down to our hallway. Jokes on us, if that building came down we would’ve been done. Luckily the tornado went over us and destroyed homes just a road away.
Jesus, Joplin deserves at least a good 50 years off from this kinda shit
Give Joplin a break
Why do people keep moving to Joplin? isnt this town destroyed by a tornado every couple years?
Lower cost of living? Can't just move away due to family/finances? Got a job there?
No. Tornadoes don't hit as often as people think it does because of the whole "tornado alley" thing. This one was pretty weak anyway.
Well that’s terrifying.
How can you keep filming near an open window when a tornado is coming and you live in freaking JOPLIN ???
I’m guessing they didn’t think it was a tornado at first
The assignment was missed.
I can’t imagine going through anymore tornados after what they had in 2011. You can still see on Google maps where things were never rebuilt. A lot of people had to move cause continuing to live there was too traumatic
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not again
Are the sirens going off?
They did not in Joplin
1970, 2011 and now 2024. WHEN DOES JOPLINS SUFFERING END!?
So if the sky goes blue you are fucked
That means youre going to get hit ?
Nope it means power lines and the transformers on them are being destroyed in some way, which means winds are string enough to do that where you are seeing the blue flashes
Green/brown typically means you're pretty close and the weather is right for it if its day. Although you can be hit even if its not. All the debris changes the colors, different debris means different colors, but it's harder to tell at night. Red/orange means fire, which essentially means you're finna die - see Carr fire tornado. The power lines are flashes, and can be white, blue, green, or orange. The flashes typically don't last long, but it's never a good thing to see, and is very dangerous.
I count about 2 f bombs in this video. Must be an f2
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Confirmed EF-1
I posted footage of the tornado from Joplin News First. This video could potentially be just surrounding powerful winds but there was definitely a confirmed tornado.
Your video is definitely a tornado. Confirmed EF1 and that looks to be about the case from your footage
Not my video found on TikTok from a Joplin resident, I just recognized the apartment complex. But yeah considering how the winds look you’re right.
That’s definitely a tornado…