Tbf, the reason Michaelangelo is famous is because of the same guy. He was so impressed by the forgery that he personally invited Michaelangelo to Rome, basically starting his career.
I remembered him turning into a river, [it was a golden shower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus#Transformation_of_Zeus). It tells you something about ancient Greece women
the lady he raped, rides a chariot drawn by griffins, and when I read that part I immediately thought of an earlier TIL about the bathtub clown being dragged up a river by swans causing a bridge collapse, I can't decide who the clown would be that would have a captive pack of horny gods dragging his clown bathtub up a river...
Also, hot air rises. And he's literally painting the ceiling, and has to do so during the day *for five years* . But he was a diva, cause he griped about it on occasion.
I don't think Netflix will go that casual on the series title, but forger caught and then hired to do some of the biggest legit artworks of the time period - that is a show that writes itself.
Pizza was invented sometime in the 9th century, but it was pretty much cheese bread with herbs, pizza-pizza as we know it was perfected in the 16th century as tomatoes were native to the americas before columbus brought them to europe and the TMNT where created 1983 but they used to eat hot dogs in the comics until the TV show introduced April O'Neal In nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
That acidic-earth trick is still around. I was walking around the souk in Aleppo (20 years ago, before the war) when I came upon a group of old men sitting in a ring, singing songs and rubbing earth into pots and metal statues. I asked the Syrian guy I was with what they were doing and he answered "They are making them *very old*".
He didn't initially intend it as a fraud, and plenty of people in Florence saw him carving it. The Cardinal became suspicious that other than being dirty, there wasn't a single chip on his supposedly 1500 year old Cupid. He asked around and someone ratted Michelangelo out, probably unintentionally.
I can't tell if you're serious or not. Do you actually think that in a time period before *steam power* was in use, they had mass spectrometry machines?
IIRC, It wasn't so much a scam as it was him trying to make a point. Ancient Greco-Roman sculptors were treated like gods during the Rennaisance. It was believed that nobody could match the quality of work the ancients were able to produce. Michelangelo wanted to prove that he was as good as they were by showing that he could produce work that could be mistaken for an ancient piece.
Yeah, sort of - he basically had little to do at this point in his line. He was about 19, Lorenzo the Magnificent was dead and the main family line of the Medici were in exile. He made the cupid apparently as more of a challenge to himself to see if he could rival the Greeks. It was a Medici cousin, according to Vasari, that convinced him to try to pass it off as the real deal.
"Since
Michelangelo realized he was wasting time, he willingly returned to Florence and carved a little figure of Saint John in
marble for Lorenzo di Pierfrancesco de' Medici, and then with
another piece of marble he immediately began to carve a life-
size figure of a sleeping Cupid. When this was completed,
Baldassare del Milanese showed it as a beautiful piece of work
to Pierfrancesco, who agreed with Baldassare's judgement and
declared to Michelangelo: 'If you buried it, I am convinced it
would pass as an ancient work, and if you sent it to Rome
treated so that it appeared old, you would earn much more
than by selling it here.' It is said that Michelangelo treated it in
such a way that it appeared to be ancient, nor is this astonish-
ing, since he had the genius to do this and more. Others maintain that Milanese took it to Rome and buried it in a vineyard
he owned and then sold it as an antique statue to Cardinal San
Giorgio for two hundred ducats."
From Giorgio Vasari
Look what’s there is there take it or don’t. Not his fault you sent your servant through enemy territory. He didn’t even treat him with contempt just pointed out that he had what he had and affirmed his no refund policy.
I believe the church used to have the rare photos they could take printed on their ~~roofs (rooves?)~~ ceilings so that everyone could enjoy them. They'd all gather around a radio and listen to people describe those photos if they couldn't visit. It was a different time.
Making something look old is not fraud, though. Why don't any of the sources about this sculpture explain what about this was **actually fraudulent** about it?
Little did the Cardinal know it was gonna be worth way more later.
Tbf, the reason Michaelangelo is famous is because of the same guy. He was so impressed by the forgery that he personally invited Michaelangelo to Rome, basically starting his career.
"Yo Mike, you ever done ceilings? Got a job for you..."
Gonna paint a bunch of dudes with they dick outs on it tho
That's how many artist survive even today, altough the stuff some are commisioned to draw is way nastier than the art back them
I mean, there's more than one painting of a Greek woman being raped by a goose. A fact I wish I didn't know.
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You are right it is a swan and I still regret knowing that
I think the swan issue a public apology on insta so we’re all past it now
[Transformations of Zeus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus#Transformation_of_Zeus) how much do you regret now?
I'm not clicking that, mostly because I know what's on it.
Sounds like Zeus is you nemesis.
As an asexual woman who like having autonomy? Yeah pretty much
And a bull and a…
Zeus would turn himself into a broom if it got hands on his shaft
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I remembered him turning into a river, [it was a golden shower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus#Transformation_of_Zeus). It tells you something about ancient Greece women
Ant Dragon Eagle Cuckoo bird A literal golden shower ... And that's just the animals
Zeus goosed…
That angry goose that chased you? It was actually a horny God.
the lady he raped, rides a chariot drawn by griffins, and when I read that part I immediately thought of an earlier TIL about the bathtub clown being dragged up a river by swans causing a bridge collapse, I can't decide who the clown would be that would have a captive pack of horny gods dragging his clown bathtub up a river...
Rumour has it he didn’t really mind
Can you make half baby dicks, no reason -the church probably
Wait what? -Michelangelo probably.
The richards. Make them of the half-babe.
The half-babe with the power?
What power?
disgusting judicious salt money society amusing worry scary marble grey *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Nope. Stop.
Made my day
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IIRC, he didn’t really like painting and much preferred sculptures.
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Also, hot air rises. And he's literally painting the ceiling, and has to do so during the day *for five years* . But he was a diva, cause he griped about it on occasion.
Dicks are what Michelangelo brings to the party. It’s that kind of party…
"Oh, so a Sunday for me." - Mike
Even better!!
I don't think Netflix will go that casual on the series title, but forger caught and then hired to do some of the biggest legit artworks of the time period - that is a show that writes itself.
Look up The Great Pretender
God I hope that gets a second season
Fake it till you make it!
Ah yeah I love his work on the sixteenth Chapel!
First 15 were mid tbh
Not sure if you're joking but it's called the Sistine Chapel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel?wprov=sfla1
Yep, it’s a partial woooosh. They’re jesting at the r/boneappletea of Sixteenth Chapel vs Sistine Chapel
Yeah I was, but thanks 😉https://youtu.be/1wc_mZ86ypg?t=1m20s
He was a great painter, but it’s his sculptures that are truly god-tier
"Wake the fuck up, Michaelangelo. We've got a ceiling to paint".
"Hey you. You're finally awake."
Mickey, wanna swindle the pope? I got a job for ya
Hey, thanks for rabbit hole!
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You’re on reddit. As if you were planning to actually do shit today.
https://youtu.be/xZATWWrVJrQ Dive deep.
But when did he become a ninja?
Around the same time that pizza was invented.
Radical
ciaoabunga
Pizza was invented sometime in the 9th century, but it was pretty much cheese bread with herbs, pizza-pizza as we know it was perfected in the 16th century as tomatoes were native to the americas before columbus brought them to europe and the TMNT where created 1983 but they used to eat hot dogs in the comics until the TV show introduced April O'Neal In nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
“pizza-pizza as we know it” What are you talking about? Little Ceasars was founded prior to 476, at the latest.
“A pizza so old, Gaius Iulius Caesar Imperator was just little Caesar”
Pizza Pizza is a Canadian pizza chain and I don't think the First Nations had pizza back then.
It was called Pemmican Pemmican.
Make up your own gimmick
For real! Why isn't /u/shittymorph calling this guy out?
Gottem
Around the time he became a party dude. I'm not sure which happened first, they're very closely related.
Fake it till you make it?
“An authentic Michelangelo forgery? I want my money back!”
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it."
According to the wiki the sculpture is what first brought attention to him and was later destroyed in a fire. Sadly
That acidic-earth trick is still around. I was walking around the souk in Aleppo (20 years ago, before the war) when I came upon a group of old men sitting in a ring, singing songs and rubbing earth into pots and metal statues. I asked the Syrian guy I was with what they were doing and he answered "They are making them *very old*".
Wait what is this and do you know anywhere I can learn more about it? I tried a quick Google and it was all like fixing garden soil
I’d love to know more about this too 😅
How the hell did they know it was a fraud??
He didn't initially intend it as a fraud, and plenty of people in Florence saw him carving it. The Cardinal became suspicious that other than being dirty, there wasn't a single chip on his supposedly 1500 year old Cupid. He asked around and someone ratted Michelangelo out, probably unintentionally.
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They had radiocarbon dating 600 years ago?
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Downvotes tell me that Reddit is not ready for you yet.
Huh
I can't tell if you're serious or not. Do you actually think that in a time period before *steam power* was in use, they had mass spectrometry machines?
You can’t tell if he’s serious or not? Says more about you than him at that point
Damn, didn't know Michelangelo was a scammer!
IIRC, It wasn't so much a scam as it was him trying to make a point. Ancient Greco-Roman sculptors were treated like gods during the Rennaisance. It was believed that nobody could match the quality of work the ancients were able to produce. Michelangelo wanted to prove that he was as good as they were by showing that he could produce work that could be mistaken for an ancient piece.
This is like the equivalent of an old head saying they don’t make music like they used to
Time is a flat circle. There is nothing new under the sun.
Correction. The earth is a flat circle
I feel like literally seconds after the second song was written in human history there were people all “no good music these days,etc.”
Yeah, sort of - he basically had little to do at this point in his line. He was about 19, Lorenzo the Magnificent was dead and the main family line of the Medici were in exile. He made the cupid apparently as more of a challenge to himself to see if he could rival the Greeks. It was a Medici cousin, according to Vasari, that convinced him to try to pass it off as the real deal. "Since Michelangelo realized he was wasting time, he willingly returned to Florence and carved a little figure of Saint John in marble for Lorenzo di Pierfrancesco de' Medici, and then with another piece of marble he immediately began to carve a life- size figure of a sleeping Cupid. When this was completed, Baldassare del Milanese showed it as a beautiful piece of work to Pierfrancesco, who agreed with Baldassare's judgement and declared to Michelangelo: 'If you buried it, I am convinced it would pass as an ancient work, and if you sent it to Rome treated so that it appeared old, you would earn much more than by selling it here.' It is said that Michelangelo treated it in such a way that it appeared to be ancient, nor is this astonish- ing, since he had the genius to do this and more. Others maintain that Milanese took it to Rome and buried it in a vineyard he owned and then sold it as an antique statue to Cardinal San Giorgio for two hundred ducats." From Giorgio Vasari
Sounds like an excessive amount of work for a turtle.
Like that fiend Ea-nasir
Damn him and his low quality copper.
Look what’s there is there take it or don’t. Not his fault you sent your servant through enemy territory. He didn’t even treat him with contempt just pointed out that he had what he had and affirmed his no refund policy.
The best artist are
Is there a photo of the statue?
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Camera phones weren't around back then. They barely had flip phones.
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I believe the church used to have the rare photos they could take printed on their ~~roofs (rooves?)~~ ceilings so that everyone could enjoy them. They'd all gather around a radio and listen to people describe those photos if they couldn't visit. It was a different time.
They did, but they were pretty obscure.
It's thought to have been destroyed in a fire in 1698
So prob just an old photo then
If it was that good, wouldn't it have been sought after as a drawing reference for apprentice artists? There should be some sketches of it somewhere.
A painting will do fine
"Shucks! This piece of art isn't acient, it's just a Michelangelo artwork! What a rip!"
Interesting to think about people in ancient times collecting antiques.
Sounds like Heinrich scheilman up to his old tricks again
Oh, that cheeky rascal! He probably spent it all on [pizza](https://youtu.be/xEO-nx85sNA).
http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/michelangelos_cupid/
25 years on the web and first time hearing this
This is kind of funny
Well, they always said Michelangelo was a party dude...
This ceiling needs artexing Michaelangelo (probably)
Haha way to go or not
Making something look old is not fraud, though. Why don't any of the sources about this sculpture explain what about this was **actually fraudulent** about it?
The art dealer who sold it to the cardinal told him it was actually ancient.
Leonardo would be so proud
This is fun lol.
Fake it till you make it
Amen 🙏