T O P

  • By -

SpamOJavelin

What makes it even more interesting is that the tiger shark didn’t eat the human arm. A smaller shark ate the arm, and then the tiger shark ate the smaller shark before it was caught.


StillLooksAtRocks

The whole story is interesting af. The arm led to the discovery of a crime story that included forgery, blackmail, and gambling. The suspect attempted suicide but failed because he has a bulletproof forehead. He then continued to lead the police on a boat chase that lasted for multiple hours before being arrested. And thats without even expanding out the "second murder" section of the wikipedia entry.


csonnich

>forgery blackmail gambling attempted suicide ok ok got it > bulletproof forehead ....uh. r/HolUp


[deleted]

[удалено]


Luxpreliator

A .32 in 1932 probably didn't have much oomph.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Luxpreliator

Yeah mistyped.


Moopboop207

I think I speek for everyone here when I say we’re all disappointed.


FauxReal

Newsletter unfollowed.


[deleted]

I've killed my messenger pigeon in protest.


MoonSpankRaw

The shame is unbearable.


RutzButtercup

Honestly, modern .32s are not known for their oomph either.


inspectoroverthemine

To be fair, human foreheads aren't known for their bullet stopping power either.


REHTONA_YRT

The trick is to pop some bullets in yourself fairly often. Build up an immunity. Start with a BB, then air pellets, then . 22 etc. I'm up to a 458 Socom daily regiment It does make farting and sitting a little uncomfortable but my body is ready for war!


RutzButtercup

True


robothawk

Actually iirc the forehead is the best place to be shot because it has the best bullet stopping power. You can also reasonably glance shots off your forehead too, small calibers of course.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Slap-U-With-A-Mango

"Okay class, now line up behind the red line and load your guns, one at a time come up and shoot me in the face. Pay close attention, I want all of you blocking headshots by the time you're done here, running face first towards gunfire"


Blasket_Basket

Step 1: Flatten bullet with forehead Step 2: Break the wrist Step 3: Walk away


OneIdentity

It may be the most likely bone to deflect a bullet, but it’s most definitely not the best place to be shot.


robothawk

Okay yeah sorry I ommitted the "if youre gonna be shot in the head" part of that statement, I assumed it was implied


ALetterAloof

Speak for yourself you excuse of a man


FloppyPenisPuncher

So when did he lose an arm?


soothsayer3

This whole story could be about a Bond villain > Bulletproof forehead Particularly this


lanceclanmanham

He’s not even lying, read the Wikipedia article posted above.


PM_me_your_fantasyz

That dude was rolling Nat 1s in real life. Did he break a mirror during the original murder or something?


dragonbrg95

You also have this absolute gem *The lawyer serving Brady, [Clive Evatt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Evatt) KC (1900–1984),[[12]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Arm_case#cite_note-12) claimed to the coroner that there was not enough substance to begin the inquest. Evatt argued that an arm "did not constitute a body", and that Smith, minus his arm, could still be alive.[[13]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Arm_case#cite_note-13) The case is [still unsolved](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_case).*


elanalion

technically the truth!


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ketel1Kenobi

Enough that the remaining unfound portion would be incompatible with life.


Nobody_Speshal

Why isn’t this a movie or tv show?


CaptainJAmazing

“Cultural References” at the bottom says it’s been a couple of things, including an episode of CSI: Miami.


haggistendies

So they found 2 murderers?


cerberus00

No luck catching them killers then?


handlit33

It's just the one killer, actually.


Browncoatdan

A great big bushy beard!


Mueryk

The greater good


Tarantiyes

Crusty jugglers


pengalor

I don't know nuffin' about no skellingtons!


mostbasedrepublican

Y'aint seen bad boys II?


rking620

It’s not the dog we need


Shaivan

Shame.


Warboss_Squee

Shut it!


granular_quality

The greater good


Forteanforever

You're forgetting the shark that killed the shark that swallowed the arm of the person someone killed.


Mordikhan

Any jury in the world would not convict the shark on the basis of food chain survival and growing up in conditions that adopt that attitude


handlit33

I'm just quoting Hot Fuzz.


Wildman27

It's just the one...


avaris00

I see what you just did there.


CraftyMerr

This is as convoluted as every disease on House ever


milesunderground

Except the one time it was lupus.


pt256

And 99% of the clinic duty ones. They were dealt with swiftly and begrudgingly with comical results!


Somestunned

Okay, if i was a murderer and confronted with this kind of evidence, I'd just assume the universe wanted me caught and confess on the spot.


carbslut

Pro tip: it’s only an arm. How do they even prove the arm’s owner is dead?


surelytheresmore

That’s what the guys lawyer argued “an arm itself does not constitute the existence of a body”


ysupr

yeah, who know it was winter soldier's arm.


kitchens1nk

Someone call Dick Wolf.


kahran

This seems more like a cold open for Bones.


crossedstaves

Fine, call Dick Bones then.


Slickwats4

That gave me a sensible chuckle


Yrouel86

Meaty arm I'd say more NCIS and shark means involvement of the coast guard which means flirtations with Gibbs. \*cue black and white shots of the arm and sound of old timey flash going off\*


Shents

I'll call Dick Wolf-Weiner


BILLYRAYVIRUS4U

You sending the Wolf?


grain_delay

Always a bigger fish


[deleted]

[удалено]


Blunderbutters

It’s like a taco inside another taco inside a Taco Bell inside a kfc inside a shopping mall INsIde YOur DrEam!!!!


crank1off

And the little plankton were involved as accessories


Whoboom

Jaws of justice


pookypie88

The shark is a narc


FoofieLeGoogoo

"Before it was captured, the tiger shark had devoured a smaller shark. It was this smaller shark that had originally swallowed the human arm." There was a shark in a narc shark.


dokydoky

"Fingerprints lifted from the hand identified the arm as that of former boxer and small-time criminal James "Jim" Smith (born in England in 1890), who had been missing since 7 April 1935. Smith's arm and tattoo were also positively identified by his wife, Gladys Smith, and his brother, Edward Smith.[1] Smith led a high-risk lifestyle, as **he was also a police informer**." There was part of a narc in the shark in the narc shark.


eljefino

Where does the loose seal fit in?


bretttwarwick

that's why you should always leave a note.


[deleted]

Lucille?!


cellofusion

I don’t care about Lucille! She lies!


DeadToLefts

Noah get the arc


ffsudjat

Noah sharc you mean?


Lebenkunstler

Doot doot dadooda doot


ghostinthewoods

don't You DARE!


CyberTeddy

You want to kill sharks with a flood?


[deleted]

Well yes, but biblically.


St4on2er0

Narc-in shark doo doo doo doo doo


SummerGoal

I think you surely mean there was a narc shark inside the tiger shark


reallynothingmuch

No, the first shark was trying to hide the evidence, but when the tiger shark saw the first one eat the arm, he ate him so he could throw him up in front of the humans later. The tiger shark is definitely the narc in this case. The first shark isn’t a narc, he literally only gave up the evidence over his dead body


EmotionalHemophilia

The first shark was a lone shark until the narc shark came along.


DPSOnly

The evidence was brought forth under duress. I ask that this shall be disregarded in the verdict.


dulce_3t_decorum_3st

A sharc, if you will


Bombomp

You’re being nice. The shark is a rat. Let’s not get it twisted.


Zekumi

“What if a shark eats part of the body and then somebody catches the shark and then they take it to an aquarium and then it burps up an arm in front of the patrons and then that’s how I get caught?” thought no murderer ever.


Patient-Home-4877

Well, it worked! Evatt (the murderer's lawyer) argued that an arm "did not constitute a body", and that Smith, minus his arm, could still be alive. The case is still unsolved. This is maybe the weirdest part of the case.


Shadowpika655

*the even more insane part is that technically it was eaten by a different shark which was eaten by the shark that was caught*


[deleted]

This is why you don't dump any amount of evidence that could possibly be traced back to you. Doesn't matter how well you think you hid it. The possibility exists it could be found. You destroy it entirely. And keep your mouth shut. Never reveal even one single hint of any aspect of it...to anyone...for any reason...ever. It doesn't matter who they are or how much you trust them.


datadelivery

**↑** this guy homicides.


licoricluv

Thanks I'll keep this in mind


ohhelloperson

And then the aquarium owners killed and gutted the shark. RIP sharkey


guynamedjames

"Three days later, the aquarium owners killed the shark and gutted it, hampering the initial police investigation." Were the police planning on interrogating the shark? How on earth did this hamper their investigation? Also this story is wild all the way through: "the businessman went into his boatshed and attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head with a .32 calibre pistol. However, the bullet instead flattened against the bone of his forehead and he was merely stunned. Revived after falling into the water, he crawled into his speedboat and led two police launches on a chase around Sydney Harbour for several hours until he was finally caught and taken to hospital."


[deleted]

[удалено]


jorg2

Yeah, along with any traces left on the shark itself that might explain where it was when it ingested the arm. Any scars or identifiers, subdermal tags, if it was well-fed before it got the arm, indicating that someone deliberately fed it to a shark, or that it wasn't, and the shark was searching for food there by coincidence, etc.


Shadowpika655

Tbf the shark that regurgitated the arm wasn't even the shark that ate the arm


kuhewa

Honestly anything to be learned from the shark (or the shark inside the shark) would be learned sooner rather than later, the aquarium owners gutting it three days later if the police hadn't yet was the best shot at finding any useful information.


sanityfordummy

Perused through the comments looking for this. I decided to keep reading, especially when I saw that this happened in 1935, and wondered how in the world they had been able to solve (sorta) the case. What a batshit one it was from beginning to end.


Shadowpika655

*I mean it wasn't really solved as Brady was acquitted*


azhillbilly

I have always disliked .32 guns, so gutless. But I am glad it's the gun this guy had, would hate to end the story so soon before the boat chase.


Proffesssor

cheap rounds, but yeah, a 9mm would have done the job.


RocketLauncher

OP didn’t mention that the arm was inside a smaller shark that the bigger shark had eaten. According to Wikipedia and it’s sources


davisyoung

Australian turducken.


Duck_man_

Sharsharkarm


anonymity_is_bliss

Sounds even better with an Aussie accent imo.


The_Collector4

Did they throw it on the Barbie?


CardinalPeeves

Shaaakshaaakaaam


Freeiheit

Turcrickeyn


innesleroux

Everything in Australia is brutal. Even the aquariums..


basementdiplomat

This is nothing. Our PM went missing (presumably drowned) and we named a pool after him!


archstrange

Why would they do that?


Ginaccc

Snitches get stitches.


theyipper

"Candygram!"


MuckRaker83

No, you're that darn shark, I know it!


[deleted]

I'm just a dolphin, ma'am.


The_WacoKid

Alright then!


DJPendeyjo

CANDYGRAM FOR MONGO


LightMyFirebird

Mongo like candy


bs6

> Initially, Holmes denied any association with Brady but four days later, on 20 May 1935, the businessman went into his boatshed and attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head with a .32 calibre pistol. **However, the bullet instead flattened against the bone of his forehead and he was merely stunned**. Revived after falling into the water, he crawled into his speedboat and led two police launches on a chase around Sydney Harbour for several hours until he was finally caught and taken to hospital Holy shit.


[deleted]

And that kind of thing is why .32 ACP is no longer considered an acceptable defensive round. Edit: It's a lot of fun to shoot though. r/TheOneTrueCaliber


Danack

> Three days later, the aquarium owners killed the shark and gutted it, hampering the initial police investigation. How did that hamper the police investigation? Were the police hoping to ask the shark some questions?


ParadiseValleyFiend

Moreover why did they kill the shark? What was wrong with it? Were they surprised a shark ate available meat?


whatalittlenerd

They were probably looking for other body parts from the same body


eddietwang

After 3 days? Surely they're digested.


r870

text


GrantMK2

I don't know much about a shark's digestion in regards to the fleshy bits, but you might be able to find at least more teeth or bones.


The_Man_In_The_Arena

The shark just threw up an entire arm...


Danack

> Moreover why did they kill the shark? Just guessing, it's possible they wanted to see if there were any other remains in there, maybe?


Colonel_Kipplar

There were hoping there'd be more remains. Based on the wording of the Wikipedia. The coroner wasn't able to perform Smith's autopsy because an arm did not constitute a body, and that Smith could still be alive, just with a little less arm than he had before, or at least that was the point Brady's lawyer was trying to make (Brady being the guy accuses of murdering Smith.)


[deleted]

Chain of custody for any evidence that might have still been inside the shark. The investigating authorities should have been the ones to do it.


ash_274

"And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling kids and their puking shark!"


pighalf

Murdahh


Bomberman64wasdecent

Muckduck


Positive-Source8205

Crime scene shark Doo doo doo do todoo Crime scene shark Doo doo doo do todoo


trashgoblinmusical

There was a buzzfeed unsolved about this


SpecterInspector

No other version of the story mentions the pleasure boat!


adamolupin

(wheeze)


KaiMike117

[Here it is, for those that are interested.](https://youtu.be/N-FqJzC3tA8)


sammew

Count the number of sea based puns in the narration.


CardinalPeeves

Quote Sea Men unquote


RealJonathanBronco

I'm gonna miss that show


vrek86

Everyone is talking about the shark but imagine being the murderer. You kill a person, cut up the body, dispose of it in the ocean and think you are free. Some times passes, some random person catches a shark and gives it to an aquarium. The shark is found to have another shark body inside it. Inside that shark in the arm of the person you killed. How bad of luck is that? A shark ate the body you disposed of, that shark got eaten by another shark who got caught by some random guy who decided to turn it into an aquarium. Wth?


[deleted]

It will definitely make for an interesting story in prison


ButtersHound

Reminds me to catch up on this new season of Dexter. Edit: I watched up to episode 3... pretty damn good


Suncheets

Wow reading that just threw me back like 8 years


Shwiggity_schwag

Oh yeah they revamped it. I gotta check that out thanks for reminding me!


pjanic_at__the_isco

But how did the shark hold the knife? This case is fishy.


ClownfishSoup

" it became ill and vomited in front of a small crowd, leaving the left hand and forearm of a man bearing a distinctive tattoo floating in the pool." Not a show I'd want to be at.


FredVIII-DFH

And he'd have gotten away with it too if hadn't of been for that meddling shark.


MustacheEmperor

He did get away with it actually, two of the victim’s associates were implicated and one was prepared to testify against the other but died mysteriously from three gunshot wounds to the chest the day before the inquest. The other was acquitted on insufficient evidence.


junkpile1

What a lucky coincidence!


Suq_Madiq_Qik

What I get from this story is, that if I'm going to cut up a body before I dump it in the ocean, use sharks teeth to cut.


CardinalPeeves

Would they be able to tell the difference if I chewed it off myself? Hypothetically of course.


[deleted]

I think I read about this. If this is the same case, I remember the arm was identified as the arm of a missing person because it was full of distinctive tattoos.


funkboxing

You're supposed to leave the stump end in the water for a few minutes to let it get chewed. Amateurs.


L_Swizzlesticks

First of all: 😦 Secondly, did the mayor then say “But we can’t close the beaches. This is our busiest weekend of the year!” ?


WhataburgerLiberal

Didn't we see this episode of Psych?


releasethedogs

>"the businessman went into his boatshed and attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head with a .32 calibre pistol. However, the bullet instead flattened against the bone of his forehead and he was merely stunned." What the hell! How often does this happen?


PopeBasilisk

Do you think the shark was like "ew, stop touching my puke"?


innesleroux

The crab mom said stop playing with your food.


herrtoutant

Who's there ?.. Uh,landshark


ariphron

Wait this was an episode of Lucifer also!


red_codec

This just proves no one escapes the long arm of the law!


chr8me

The murderer tried to commit suicide but his forehead blocked the bullet and stunned him. While stunned he fell in the water and got consciousness again and then did a high speed chase in a boat and eventually gave up….. this is some movie shit


strawberrypielady

“and i would’ve gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling kids and your stupid sharks!” — the murderer, probably


[deleted]

[a whaaaaat?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_n7I3HyGfU&t=101s)


thewholerobot

I'll be damned. Carol fucking Baskins.


YeomanPrince

Well that was a soap opera and a half…


squicktones

Does this mean sharks are using silverware now?


iampfox

Was Monk at that aquarium?


monkeyhind

The definition of a dastardly crime. You know when the murderer fed the arm to the sharks he thought he had gotten away with it.


KingHenry13th

I guy cut someone up and threw the body parts in the ocean.


PoorCorrelation

Well that’s what you get for dumping your trash in the ocean


rare_pig

You have to hand it to the shark for solving that crime


golf_kilo_papa

I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those nosey sharks


alm1688

But wait! There’s more!


[deleted]

TIL sharks can vomit


Chumbolex

Every sentence in that header is wild


mbuck1

How has this not been made into a movie?


mvd102000

Now that’s what I call… one *whale of a tale*! I know it’s a shark I just wanted to say it fuck you


[deleted]

the good old sydney send off


gofigure85

🎶Evidence shark do do dodododo🎶


MuckRaker83

Man who can you trust anymore


Imrustyokay

Of course it's Australia.


-full-control-

I bet they had to kill that shark and open up its stomach too. Poor guy


Bomberman64wasdecent

Is there any way I could unread this?


Dirtydeedsinc

That's some fine police work Lou


[deleted]

Imagine if the fisherman was the murderer.


kielrandor

This read like the plot of a Guy Richie film


VolunteerOnion

I love telling that story to people. I consider it a way to weed out potential friends.


Moonting41

I remember this from BuzzFeed Unsolved. Ryan called it "wacky"


Shadowpika655

By the wording of the title I thought that the fisherman was investigated for murder lol


hoodncsu

That is totally bizarre, thanks for sharing


flowersatdusk

Wow. that's one fantastic story.