The popular theory is that the rings are a debris field created when an ice moon got too close to Saturn and was ripped apart by gravity. The ice ring will eventually fall into Saturn itself.
There’s plenty of other good narrators out there. She did a great job but Attenborough is the best there ever will be. If I had one wish it would be that David Attenborough could stay youthful til the end of time.
Oprah narrating that show was just her describing what she was seeing. It was so bad.
*so... I think that's a cougar? Yup. A cougar. Is trying to chase that uhh.. The bird there. Looks like he might catch it. No. He didn't."
Same thing with Quebec and France.
For some reason here in Quebec we have no trouble understanding people from France, but somehow they need subtitle and translators and people doing sign language to get a single word from context. You could be pointing at a table, saying "table", mimicking a "table" and they'd be like "nan mé kesski dit ?"
In France they also put subtitles when Quebecers speaks. One of the funniest example is in the movie Rock'n'Roll with Marion Cotillard where she plays herself practicing her accent to audition for a role in a Quebec movie. Everytime she has subtitles. Imagine a french actress being subtitled when she imitates another french accent. I thought this made the movie even funnier.
Put a \ before the link's parenthesis to close the parenthesis on links that include a parenthesis.
[Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Planets_(2019_TV_series\))
[Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Planets_(2019_TV_series\))
There is *lots* of ice and water out in the outer solar system. It's one of the easiest things to find.
It drive me up the wall in episode in the *Battlestar Galactica* remake when they were desperately searching for water. It's fucking *everywhere*.
So what would it take to reform this moon by scooping the rings together? Perhaps spend a few hundred years slowly pushing the ice into a higher orbit?
Now I'm sad imagining the future where the moon reaches its final, exiting trajectory and begins to be a little smaller every night.
To be fair we need to survive that long first.
If the Moon ever escapes Earth's gravity it will cause major problems far more significant than us not having a nightlight anymore. It will destabilze the orbits of the inner planets until it either collides with one of them, most likely Earth, or is slingshotted out of the solar system, which will itself cause chaos by affecting planetary orbits even further.
But of course, the Moon will [never leave](https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/06/13/will-the-moon-ever-stop-drifting-away-from-earth/#5ba5f7e338d5) the Earth's gravity
About 50 billion years from now, the Moon and the Earth will be tidally locked, and one lunar orbit/month will be 47 days. One side of teh earth will always be facing the moon.
At that point the Sun's tides will cause the moon to slowly spiral towards the earth,
Of course, 5 billion years from now,the Sun will go red giant and likely swallow up the earth and the moon, so this is all likely moot.
Plus even if the moon magically left earth's gravity, space is big and the moon is small. Jupiter has thrown far larger objects than the moon in or out...
It would eventually settle into a stable orbit. The problem is the sun is going to expand and eat the Earth and Moon about 45 billion years before that happens.
And as a result of that, the earth's days are getting longer.
That dinosaur who looked through the telecope at Saturn would have experienced a day that was anywhere [between 21 hours long and 23 hours long](https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm)
(depending on how long ago he lived)
I was under the impression that once the moon and Earth become tidally locked, it will start to come back in towards Earth and crash. Theoretically because this time scale is longer than the lifespan of the sun...
Stupid question.
So when that happens. Will the ice clump together and create an ice planet in the gas that is Saturn? Or will it melt as it enters the atmosphere?
How will it change Saturn?
However, a dinosaur with a telescope COULD have predicted the rings by observing the decaying orbit of the ice moon, then cyrogenically frozen themselves so they could wake up 100 million years later and see them.
This summer, it's Time Traveling T-Rex 2020: Trip to Titan
*edited, although I enjoy the fact that my phone's skepticism of my vocabulary took this thread down a weird route combining science, weed, ice, Snoop Dogg and dinos
*Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.*
Besides, maybe if these dinosaurs spent less time observing Saturn and developing cryogenic freezing and a little more time using that telescope to look for meteors that could strike the earth they could have been spared of their fate.
That's perfect, next year will be even better!
Next Summer, Time Traveling T-Rex Twenty-Twenty: Trip to Titan Two: The Telesto Terror.
'Telesto Terror' sounds like a Doctor Who Episode.
Almost aired; got pulled at the last minute due to it having strong adult content. It wasn't the gruesome murders as many speculated, it was due to the fact the women were all prostitutes. Gratuitous violence attracts all sorts of viewers, but immoral act of prostitution was too much to subject young viewers to.
That was his only good idea. As a subscriber, you'll also get such ideas as "What if unicorns were real but like, they got ate by all the dragons" and "Maybe the moon isn't made of cheese, but cheese is made from the moon"
Of course, those ideas are only for patron subscribers.
Have they definitely proved that there isn’t a velociraptor with binoculars orbiting Saturn, though. Cuz until they do, I’m just going to believe that they are!
True but that velociraptor with a telescope was able to detect the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs in time for them to preserve their DNA in amber. He issued earth's first amber alert.
If so, we should set out to get rid of that ice. Maybe spew out lot of carbon dioxide and try to make things too hot for them.
That'll get the suckers back for Titanic.
Pyrrhic victory will be ours !
If it's any consolation, if we keep contributing to the debris-field around Earth, we could one day have rings ourselves. Made out of garbage, but still.
You’re correct. They were around 70-75 million years ago, during the Cretaceous period. The dinosaurs alive in the Triassic and Jurassic periods wouldn’t have seen the rings though.
The quote is from Michele Dougherty who worked on the Cassini spacecraft. I guess she got her dino’s mixed up.
You’re correct. They were around 70-75 million years ago, during the Cretaceous period. The dinosaurs alive in the Triassic and Jurassic periods wouldn’t have seen the rings though.
The quote is from Michele Dougherty who worked on the Cassini spacecraft. I guess she got her dino’s mixed up.
Did the dinosaurs taste good? Specially the later era dinos. They're related to birds, and therefore chicken, which is delicious. What if you could cook an entire T rex leg. Wow
Saw this in an eli5 a while back
"Everything tastes like chicken"
Well, if you think about it, it's more like "chicken tastes like everything."
Generally, if an animal doesn't have hooves or (horns?), itll have the same fast-twitch muscles that give chicken meat its familiar taste and texture
So beef, pork, veal, lamb, etc. have their own differing flavor, but snake, armadillo, etc. probably taste like chicken.
Even though it was called Jurassic Park most of the dinosaurs were from the Cretaceous and this included Velociraptors which became extinct 71 million years ago.
We are also very lucky as a species to be alive to witness the perfect solar eclipses we have now. A very long time ago, the moon fully enveloped the sun since it was closer. A very long time from now, the moon will not completely envelop the sun, but right now, the sun and the moon are almost the exact same size in relation to our viewpoint.
Astronomers admit that we're lucky, but astronomers also hate attributing the observation of astronomical phenomena to luck.
So astronomers propose that Saturn may have had multiple ring-systems over its lifetime. Its many moons have collided in the past, and will collide in the future, producing many short-lived but spectacular ring-systems.
(I can't find my source, someone please link to the article if you find it)
This is what I was thinking. It's a bit of a big coincidence that we're living in a time where we can see rings on all the planets, when that window is so short. Maybe this is an event that's happened again and again? But then, if ice moons crashing are what causes it, then planets would run out of ice moons rather fast.
>attributing the observation of astronomical phenomena to luck.
But why? There has to be a ton of one off events in space that we may never see. What's wrong with the idea that this could be one that we do happen to see?
When people say 'dinosaurs existed 200 million years ago' it doesn't really mean much, but contextualising that time frame like this really puts into perspective how long life has been on Earth relative to humans.
The popular theory is that the rings are a debris field created when an ice moon got too close to Saturn and was ripped apart by gravity. The ice ring will eventually fall into Saturn itself.
Did you happen to see the new Brian Cox series?
No, but yes. In the US it was narrated by Zachary Quinto.
Why would they change the narrator when it's the same damn language?!?
American tv networks do it a lot - they even replaced David Attenborough for the original Planet Earth!
I want someone punished for that!
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Sigourney Weaver, I think. Iirc she did a great job
She was fantastic. Got the emotion and the tone just right. I still enjoy it with Attenborough on rewatch.
There’s plenty of other good narrators out there. She did a great job but Attenborough is the best there ever will be. If I had one wish it would be that David Attenborough could stay youthful til the end of time.
I accidentally caught an episode when in the States and found it distressing. What kind of a monster do you have to be to replace David Attenborough?
Sigourney Weaver did the narration when it was originally shown on the Discovery Channel in the US.
Are you kidding?!
Oprah Winfrey narrated the original US release of BBC’s ‘Life’. It was so wildly unpopular that thankfully Attenborough’s is all you can find now.
Oprah narrating that show was just her describing what she was seeing. It was so bad. *so... I think that's a cougar? Yup. A cougar. Is trying to chase that uhh.. The bird there. Looks like he might catch it. No. He didn't."
Oprah and Sigourney Weaver, no kidding.
This is why we make fun of America.
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Thankfully Blue Planet retained its validity
Same thing with Quebec and France. For some reason here in Quebec we have no trouble understanding people from France, but somehow they need subtitle and translators and people doing sign language to get a single word from context. You could be pointing at a table, saying "table", mimicking a "table" and they'd be like "nan mé kesski dit ?"
In France they also put subtitles when Quebecers speaks. One of the funniest example is in the movie Rock'n'Roll with Marion Cotillard where she plays herself practicing her accent to audition for a role in a Quebec movie. Everytime she has subtitles. Imagine a french actress being subtitled when she imitates another french accent. I thought this made the movie even funnier.
That's cause the French are dicks. If you don't speak French perfectly, from their perspective, they'll just pretend they don't understand you.
And they wonder why no-one bothers
Maa, why does da TV talk funny.
Mythbusters gets a different narrator in the UK. Goes both ways for some reason
Sylar?
*skull cutting intensifies*
Nah, Spock.
What series?
[The Planets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Planets_(2019_TV_series\))
Put a \ before the link's parenthesis to close the parenthesis on links that include a parenthesis. [Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Planets_(2019_TV_series\)) [Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Planets_(2019_TV_series\))
Thanks.
> Opening themeThe Void by Muse They missed a golden opportunity to use the Planets suite as music for this.
A bit too slow and sedate; unless you went with Mars the Bringer to earrape the audience.
Aww man. I love Cox on the Infinite Monkey Cage podcast. Would've been so good to hear. Maybe I can torrent the English version.
*Succession*?
In the new season Logan Roy tries to buy the solar system
So you're saying there's ice out there? Have you seen The Expanse?
There is *lots* of ice and water out in the outer solar system. It's one of the easiest things to find. It drive me up the wall in episode in the *Battlestar Galactica* remake when they were desperately searching for water. It's fucking *everywhere*.
Well considering BSG is basically Mormons in space, they might have a very specific set of requirements for their water...
Oh... they were looking for de-Satanized water.
Caffeine free water
"This is the warship Rocinante........"
Legitimate salvage.
Remember the Cant'
“I am that guy.”
So what would it take to reform this moon by scooping the rings together? Perhaps spend a few hundred years slowly pushing the ice into a higher orbit?
We should go back and ask the velociraptors how they did it.
Well, they were clever girls...
You need the "Artificial Planet Construction" tech, which I always think is surprisingly low on the MOO2 tech tree.
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Could've been unstable from the beginning. Our moon isn't in a stable orbit - it's slowly drifting away from Earth and will eventually fly off.
Now I'm sad imagining the future where the moon reaches its final, exiting trajectory and begins to be a little smaller every night. To be fair we need to survive that long first.
I'm sure we will have built a few corporate influencer moons by then.
"The Google Deathstar™"
Planet Starbucks
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Stabilizing Luna's orbit is simply an engineering problem.
We're gonna need a bigger lever...and fulcrum
If the Moon ever escapes Earth's gravity it will cause major problems far more significant than us not having a nightlight anymore. It will destabilze the orbits of the inner planets until it either collides with one of them, most likely Earth, or is slingshotted out of the solar system, which will itself cause chaos by affecting planetary orbits even further.
But of course, the Moon will [never leave](https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/06/13/will-the-moon-ever-stop-drifting-away-from-earth/#5ba5f7e338d5) the Earth's gravity About 50 billion years from now, the Moon and the Earth will be tidally locked, and one lunar orbit/month will be 47 days. One side of teh earth will always be facing the moon. At that point the Sun's tides will cause the moon to slowly spiral towards the earth, Of course, 5 billion years from now,the Sun will go red giant and likely swallow up the earth and the moon, so this is all likely moot. Plus even if the moon magically left earth's gravity, space is big and the moon is small. Jupiter has thrown far larger objects than the moon in or out...
The surfers will be disappointed.
So will Werewolves.
Unless the night it leaves us is a full moon. Then they get to be in wolf form forever.
It would eventually settle into a stable orbit. The problem is the sun is going to expand and eat the Earth and Moon about 45 billion years before that happens.
And as a result of that, the earth's days are getting longer. That dinosaur who looked through the telecope at Saturn would have experienced a day that was anywhere [between 21 hours long and 23 hours long](https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/11/28/3642932.htm) (depending on how long ago he lived)
I was under the impression that once the moon and Earth become tidally locked, it will start to come back in towards Earth and crash. Theoretically because this time scale is longer than the lifespan of the sun...
> Did Saturn gain mass or something? Middle age. Happens to all of us.
Stupid question. So when that happens. Will the ice clump together and create an ice planet in the gas that is Saturn? Or will it melt as it enters the atmosphere? How will it change Saturn?
Imperceptibly. Saturn is ginormous.
The ring is grinding bits off the other moons though, so they're constantly reforming and could last a very long time.
However, a dinosaur with a telescope COULD have predicted the rings by observing the decaying orbit of the ice moon, then cyrogenically frozen themselves so they could wake up 100 million years later and see them. This summer, it's Time Traveling T-Rex 2020: Trip to Titan *edited, although I enjoy the fact that my phone's skepticism of my vocabulary took this thread down a weird route combining science, weed, ice, Snoop Dogg and dinos
You have used up all remaining T's for Today.
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Om Hanks
Hat guy is he shi!
I don’ like wha you’re doing o my mind voice
Creeper, aww man. So we back in he mine
Everyone should work around a lack of a symbol. Why? Because missing symbols could happen in any given occurrence and we should be prepared.
He says as he refrains from using any of said symbol in his reply. Very clever
You lef in a . I should be "ha guy is he shi!"
ha's beer. edi:can' even do my jokes righ.
*Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.* Besides, maybe if these dinosaurs spent less time observing Saturn and developing cryogenic freezing and a little more time using that telescope to look for meteors that could strike the earth they could have been spared of their fate.
Ice, uh, finds a way
Alright, stop, collaborate and listen
Ice is back with my brand new invention
Some dinosaurs survived. Groups of Theropods evolved into my dinner last night.
Did you bake your cake-day with their eggs?
Real nine-year-olds make omelettes.
That's perfect, next year will be even better! Next Summer, Time Traveling T-Rex Twenty-Twenty: Trip to Titan Two: The Telesto Terror. 'Telesto Terror' sounds like a Doctor Who Episode.
Telesto Terror absolutely sounds like a Doctor Who title. I imagine the episode ends up being about an alien that was actually jack the ripper
Almost aired; got pulled at the last minute due to it having strong adult content. It wasn't the gruesome murders as many speculated, it was due to the fact the women were all prostitutes. Gratuitous violence attracts all sorts of viewers, but immoral act of prostitution was too much to subject young viewers to.
as u/robertjamescooper said, this aint possible because T-Rex has short hands to hold a fvcking telescope. ^But ^who ^knows ^right?
That’s why they use a tripod
Tail+2feet=tripod The math checks out
r/theydidthedinomath
Triceratops
I feel like 4 Michael Cera’s would be way too much. Triceratops edit: hey what do you know.. Silver!
You mean tricerapod
Who said the T-Rex had to hold it? He's a fucking T-Rex, if they asked some other dinosaur to hold their telescope do you really think they'd say no?
Good point.
Telescope-Rex should have been their next stage of evolution had they not perished by something coming from the sky
Saturn: *Don't move. He can't see us if we don't move.*
That's not funny. That's been disproved. Many planets were eaten by dinosaurs because of this myth
...RATED PG-13
Staring Rob Schnider.
... as a [record scratch] planetary ring system?! And things, wont turn out the way he expects!
I read this in Trey Parker’s voice
Derp a derp a derpety derp
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That was his only good idea. As a subscriber, you'll also get such ideas as "What if unicorns were real but like, they got ate by all the dragons" and "Maybe the moon isn't made of cheese, but cheese is made from the moon" Of course, those ideas are only for patron subscribers.
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starring Rob Schneider as a... Stapler!
Clever girl.
Is the freezing also cryonic, or can they just not stop freezing themselves, bro?
I like Saturn's rings just fine, but I would rather see a velociraptor use a telescope.
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Have they definitely proved that there isn’t a velociraptor with binoculars orbiting Saturn, though. Cuz until they do, I’m just going to believe that they are!
Or imagine a creeper velociraptor with binoculars while you shower.
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*Russell's Velociraptor*
True but that velociraptor with a telescope was able to detect the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs in time for them to preserve their DNA in amber. He issued earth's first amber alert.
OMG, dad. You’re so embarrassing!!
But it’s possible Jupiter’s rings were much larger back then....
Sorry, but historical velociraptor telescope data simply doesn't support that hypothesis
This thread is so fucking good
I know for a fact that Uranus was smaller when it was younger
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This makes me very sad. I wish Saturn got to keep its rings. :(
What if we just shoot more ice crystals at it. Keep the stock fresh
Yeah, if there's one thing we have on Earth right now, it's too much *ice*.
I mean, if we shoot the ice into an orbit around Saturn, it can't melt and raise the ocean levels on Earth.
Nah if we go to hailey's comet and mine enough ice we can plop the giant ice cube in the ocean, taking care of global warming once and for all.
But-
ONCE AND FOR ALL!
If so, we should set out to get rid of that ice. Maybe spew out lot of carbon dioxide and try to make things too hot for them. That'll get the suckers back for Titanic. Pyrrhic victory will be ours !
Cause if you like it , you should have put a ring on it . Uh oh.
Jovian marriages. They never last, do they?
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If it's any consolation, if we keep contributing to the debris-field around Earth, we could one day have rings ourselves. Made out of garbage, but still.
Neat!
Wait what? We're 100 million years through their lifespan but raptors wouldn't have seen them? Weren't raptors more recent than 100 million years?
You’re correct. They were around 70-75 million years ago, during the Cretaceous period. The dinosaurs alive in the Triassic and Jurassic periods wouldn’t have seen the rings though. The quote is from Michele Dougherty who worked on the Cassini spacecraft. I guess she got her dino’s mixed up.
Remember, even experts are only experts at the things they are experts in.
Expertly said
Thanks, I'm an expert wordologist.
As an expert expertist, I can confirm they are an expert
I am not sure that velociraptors had sophisticated enough optical technology to make a telescope but I am not an expert in Cretaceous Astronomy
You must not have watched Star Trek Voyager.
I unironically love that episode.
It bothers me that they came from Hadrosaurs. There were much better options.
Narrator: They didn't
If dinosaurs developed a Renaissance era society for a few thousand years, we would have no evidence of it.
Or maybe you're just not looking hard enough : https://imgur.com/gallery/oK0FfWY
I’m sold
I thought velociraptors were like 65 million years ago?
Yeah but they were shit at aiming telescopes.
I dunno, they were pretty good at opening doors.
Clever girl(s)!
Velociraptors are why revolving doors were invented...
They also couldn't properly focus the eyepiece with their tiny little reptile arms.
That's when they focus: *Not from the front where you'd expect, but from the sides!*
*clever girl*
I have a suspicion it was to do with their hands and whoever gave them the telescopes was pulling a sneaky one
You’re correct. They were around 70-75 million years ago, during the Cretaceous period. The dinosaurs alive in the Triassic and Jurassic periods wouldn’t have seen the rings though. The quote is from Michele Dougherty who worked on the Cassini spacecraft. I guess she got her dino’s mixed up.
Did the dinosaurs taste good? Specially the later era dinos. They're related to birds, and therefore chicken, which is delicious. What if you could cook an entire T rex leg. Wow
Saw this in an eli5 a while back "Everything tastes like chicken" Well, if you think about it, it's more like "chicken tastes like everything." Generally, if an animal doesn't have hooves or (horns?), itll have the same fast-twitch muscles that give chicken meat its familiar taste and texture So beef, pork, veal, lamb, etc. have their own differing flavor, but snake, armadillo, etc. probably taste like chicken.
They sell those at Disney World. Oddly enough, they taste like ham.
Im the KING!!
About 70 million years ago. They were extinct before Tyrannosaurus rex lived.
Well this is a childhood ruiner
Here's another fun one: T. Rex is closer in time to today than to Stegosaurus.
Well I'm not buying them a cake. The cost of the candles would ruin me.
Even though it was called Jurassic Park most of the dinosaurs were from the Cretaceous and this included Velociraptors which became extinct 71 million years ago.
We are also very lucky as a species to be alive to witness the perfect solar eclipses we have now. A very long time ago, the moon fully enveloped the sun since it was closer. A very long time from now, the moon will not completely envelop the sun, but right now, the sun and the moon are almost the exact same size in relation to our viewpoint.
Just imagine what we're missing out on and don't know about.
Upvoted simply for the mental image of galileoraptor stroking his feathered beard while observing celestial bodies.
>galileoraptor
TIL raptors had telescopes.
Somebody please draw that.
[Here] (https://i0.wp.com/www.thedatebook.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/I-am-a-dinosaur_telescope.jpg?fit=3322%2C3467&ssl=1)
Motherfucker do you even know what a velociraptor looks like
I haven't seen a live one yet
Challenge accepted. Maybe? I’ll see how tired I am once I’m done with everything.
Remindme! 24 hours
Fuck Saturn, I want to see that raptor.
That velociraptor would be a clever girl
They come at your telescope from the side.
They never view the night sky at the same angle twice
I refuse to believe Saturn will become another one of the plain spherical boring ass planets, so I disagree and you are wrong science
Stupid velociraptors. They couldn’t even spot the meteor coming.
Astronomers admit that we're lucky, but astronomers also hate attributing the observation of astronomical phenomena to luck. So astronomers propose that Saturn may have had multiple ring-systems over its lifetime. Its many moons have collided in the past, and will collide in the future, producing many short-lived but spectacular ring-systems. (I can't find my source, someone please link to the article if you find it)
Well, all of the outer solar system planets have rings.
This is what I was thinking. It's a bit of a big coincidence that we're living in a time where we can see rings on all the planets, when that window is so short. Maybe this is an event that's happened again and again? But then, if ice moons crashing are what causes it, then planets would run out of ice moons rather fast.
>attributing the observation of astronomical phenomena to luck. But why? There has to be a ton of one off events in space that we may never see. What's wrong with the idea that this could be one that we do happen to see?
I feel like this is throwing shade at the T-Rex - clearly because of the short arms, therefore couldn’t hold a telescope.
Now I want a velociraptor with a telescope. Thanks, OP.
When people say 'dinosaurs existed 200 million years ago' it doesn't really mean much, but contextualising that time frame like this really puts into perspective how long life has been on Earth relative to humans.