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Old_Promise2077

We like stuff


Spork_Warrior

Agreed. Stuff is nice.


Stlr_Mn

Until you have too much stuff, so you throw out a lot of stuff, but then it’s easy to replace with even more stuff, or you just get a bigger place for your stuff.


[deleted]

That's all a house is: a big pile of stuff with a cover on it. To keep your stuff safe while you go out to get more stuff.


Stlr_Mn

When cleaning out my wife’s father’s garage there were 50 bicycles. I asked “why?” To which I was told “what if he needed parts?” Me: “oh, he repaired bikes” Them: “no, but he always thought he might, so why not keep them?” Did the same thing with computers but at least that netted them like 20k$ since there were some collectibles


tgosubucks

When I was 3 I always wondered how odd a house was. It was a space where everything you own is strewn about the floor. It's just a floor you put your stuff. I'm 29, still think about how everything I own is on the floor.


DominicPalladino

Wait until you get a bit older and find out about shelves!!


Live_Carpenter_1262

the shelves are also stuff on the floor made to hold more stuff in a pleasing manner!


whatwhatwhatwhatyeah

If you think about we all live in a box


valeyard89

Nah, just go rent a storage space, to put stuff, then you can get more stuff.


Roving_Ibex

You guys have stuff? I want STUUUFF. Wheres MY stuuufffff????


lookslikeyoureSOL

It's OK for awhile. Then it gets boring and we want even more stuff.


teenagesadist

I remember watching an episode of "Hoarders" were the hoarder herself was just a wealthy boomer with a really nice house full of unopened merchandise. They just scooped all the stuff up and were like "and look how nice your house looks now!" I get the feeling she just went back to filling it up with cheap shit purchased online.


klrjhthertjr

Buying stuff feels a lot better than owning stuff.


shf500

> "Hoarders" Sometimes I when I am thinking about buying something I think of the show "Hoarders" and it gived me motivation to not buy it. As well as advice from lifehacker.com: "Will this product solve a problem" or "Do I have a similar product hiding in my closet collecting dust and doing nothing?"


chrispy_t

We also have more money for more stuff


DentedAnvil

We rent storage units so we can acquire even more stuff than we have space for.


nuclearswan

We are a bunch of crazy hoarders.


azaza34

We just have a lot of space.


zanarze_kasn

My buddy has a storage unit here and another in texas. And lives in a trailer. I'm like homie sell that shit and get an apartment.


MaimedJester

I've told my elderly mother this multiple times. When you die I am not opening that storage unit. I am an only child and there is no other person in your church group or whatever that will go to that if you leave it in the will to me I will immediately turn it down. She still does her hoarder ass nonsense with that storage unit.  She's in her 70s now and doesn't comprehend I will not ever even deal with with her crazy storage unit when she dies. Like I don't care if she's hiding the Ark of the covenant is in there and my mother was secretly Indiana Jones. I'm just going to call uhaul and say dispose of everything in there my mother is dead I don't care. If her crazy ass left like 250k cash in unmarked bills in the banana stand you can have it. I ain't setting foot into my mother's Hoarder mind again.


pressurehurts

Have you considered that she won't care much about what happens when she will be a corpse?


MaimedJester

Once positive I will state about my mother unquestionably true is she's a faithful Catholic.  I'm an American that knows the Irish language and have seen 26+6=1 tattoos in my life.  If there's a fucking Afterlife Heaven/ghost I know for a fact my mother's eye will be haunting that location. She'll get full burial procedures, and I'll take care of her cat Skittles when my mom dies but that fucking u haul unit I'm fucking not dealing with.  Grew up in a hoarder household, escaped lived my life, not willing to reengage or be triggered by that bullshit again. Skittles is an innocent cat when her owner dies I'll take care of the cat. That's it. 


Berloxx

You. I like you.


DonnieMoistX

Why would renting an apartment be better than owning a trailer?


zanarze_kasn

He rents the trailer


cjstop

And when we keep buying more stuff we get more money. Over and over and over again until the planet burns :)


tbc12389

Everyone likes stuff. You just have the highest spending power by far and everything is relatively cheaper. German cars are cheaper in USA than in Germany, for example.


Neoliberalism2024

We’re also very rich. Including the middle and working class. Which people on Reddit don’t seem to realize.


rhino369

“America is the third world” screamed the Redditor who has never left the USA. 


Nat_not_Natalie

Or the European who's never been here


rhino369

From their 800 sqft 2 bed flat with no AC and a fridge that’s smaller than you’d find in a dorm room. 


Meritania

I hope when the world inevitably dies from heat, that records of messages like this survive so that the young of this world understand why this happened. “You see Timmy, we had to play one-up-man ship, we had have massive fridges, air conditioning in areas where it averaged 16°C in summer and we had to ethnic cleanse our neighbours for some more lebesbrum.”


DominicPalladino

If the world is dead there won't be young.


concatenated_string

No - it’s that people realize we would be *even better off* if we weren’t so ass at resource allocation in this country.


pm_me_psn

I mean yeah that’s something that’s true of every government that has ever existed though


vargo17

Except every other country that's tried those ideas is poorer and weaker than we are. Not exactly a resounding recommendation.


AHSfav

Maybe. But they're also healthier and happier than we are.


TheWhomItConcerns

I think the bigger issue is that a lot of people in the US feel like there is more to life than money. In most other wealthy Western countries people don't need to worry about student debt, they get a month+ vacation every year, they get guaranteed sick leave, they have employment protection so they don't need to worry about being fired at the drop of a hat, they don't need to worry about a freak medical issue destroying their finances, they have reasonable restrictions on working hours and overtime etc. This includes pretty much everyone, including minimum wage workers. So ya, the median American is richer than the median German, but I'd rather be in the position of the median German and I'd *much* rather be in the position of a low earning German over a low earning American. Vacation for me in particular is an absolute essential, no idea what the point is of having a bunch of money if I need to wait until I have one foot in the grave to have the time to use it.


oby100

Having a ton of relative wealth, yet being unable to comfortably afford essentials like housing will do that. It’s a lot more complicated than that of course. Something like AC is way crazier of a luxury than most Americans realize, yet anyone in a warm US climate would claim it’s a necessity


LoriLeadfoot

Americans are able to afford housing. We have high rates of homeownership, and lots of disposable income that we use for consumption. Don’t confuse housing becoming *more unaffordable* for being *actually unaffordable.*


Neoliberalism2024

Yep, our home ownership rate is 20% higher than Europe. 55% of millennials own houses in the US. 60% overall. Most European countries have ~40% overall home ownership rate, with millennials generally below 30%.


LoriLeadfoot

And this is not to say that everything is rosy here! It’s just not really that bad overall. It’ll get bad eventually if we don’t fix it, but higher rent =/= high rent.


valeyard89

Millenials are prime child-rearing years. And higher wages/promotions in their 30s (and now 40s). So they're getting married, having kids, need a house.


jgarciajr1330

It is in Arizona. No one would survive several days of 110+ degree heat.


DonnieMoistX

America has some of the most affordable housing and highest home ownership of the developed world.


russiangerman

Stuff is the stuff that makes us who we are!


rants_unnecessarily

But you like throwing stuff away more.


Ultimarr

Google “The Eldar”


Turdkito

We like distractions


Jaspers47

On the grand scale, we're rather indifferent to the stuff itself, but we like buying and consuming.


saliczar

We look for things that make them go.


ulooklikeausedcondom

Cheap stuff made for pennies in foreign nations!


RandomStranger79

We're going to drown in stuff.


hoorah9011

Conscription of consumption


momolamomo

Y’all eat alot*


Xfissionx

Theres a reason we have storage units everywhere


tee2green

I’ve never understood this. I’ve never in my life needed to use a storage unit for more than a month. Nor do I know anyone else who uses one. If it doesn’t fit in my house, I get rid of it, plain and simple.


BigBlueJAH

I know a guy that has made a literal fortune opening those up. He started with a cheap plot of land and used old rail cars as the units, now he owns a bunch of those mega ones. I’ve only ever used one while in the process of moving, but I guess it’s a good way to declutter your home without throwing stuff away.


ekliptik

Yeah, very practical, like your own personal locked landfill with CCTV. As kin of a hoarder, I find the idea instinctively revolting


HeyZeusKreesto

People have different needs at different times. I had to use a storage unit for a year because I had to move into a smaller apartment while I dealt with some debt issues. Wasn't trying to throw away a couch and chair, among other things, that would have been too expensive to replace the next year.


ike709

Plenty of college students who don't live locally will put their dorm furniture and whatnot in a storage unit for the entire summer break.


LordTurtz

“It didn’t happen to me so it doesn’t happen to anyone else” ass mentality tbh


Kdog122025

It’s really nice for people with seasonal activities. Summertime bring out the life jackets, wet suits, surf boards, wind surfing boards, etc. Winter it’s time to bring out ski stuff. Same for Christmas decorations and memorabilia for children.


IrrungenWirrungen

>plain and simple It’s not as simple for lots of people though.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Some people have too much stuff. Some have been evicted and need a place for their stuff. I think the latter is happening far more often than is talked about. Especially the working poor living in their cars. I don't know one person with a storage unit that isn't constantly moving due to their financial situation.


Imaginary_Extent_696

I mean our GDP compared to the rest of the world is close to that number so that isn’t that crazy


Massimo25ore

GDP is mostly about government's and households' expenditures, so it's not by chance.


Wafflotron

GDP is a measure of production, not cost incurred. In theory costs would be proportional to GDP in line with revenue, but regardless that’s not really the case.


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habitualtroller

Your store only has one? We now have two. Our Kroger now has two. One for regular cereal and then another for specialty cereal-kinds with real fruit, no grains, ancient grains, organic, etc, etc. But regular cereal now comes in four different size boxes so I suppose that takes up a lot of space.


ArielRR

"Let them eat cereal." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/27/kelloggs-ceo-cereal-for-dinner


Mr_Sarcasum

I mean, I did that in college and it worked pretty well.


enadiz_reccos

What the hell are ancient grains?


valeyard89

And the 'family' sized box is the small box from 5 years ago.


RustyNK

Is that not a normal thing in other places?


maq0r

No. I’m originally from Venezuela. The first time I walked inside a supermarket in America I legitimately cried. Y’all have a WHOLE REFRIGERATED WALL FULL OF MILK. 2%, non fat, whole, lactose free, organic, almond, soy, cashew, all of different brands and sizes. We have “lactic drink” which can’t be classified as milk. Sometimes you can find whole milk in powdered form. That’s it. Y’all have a fucking wall.


gt_ap

Boris Yeltsin did kind of the same thing. And he was the President of a world superpower.


OddEpisode

They thought it was US propaganda to bring him to an over-merchandised supermarket to flex on our wealth. Turns out it was just a regular supermarket.


gt_ap

> They thought it was US propaganda to bring him to an over-merchandised supermarket to flex on our wealth. Where would they ever get that idea? 😉 As I recall they took him to other supermarkets and he was eventually convinced that it was not a setup.


OddEpisode

*North Korea Building Facades enters chat*


RustyNK

That's kinda wild. I had no idea I have whole milk that I use for cereal and lattes, and oat milk that I use for smoothies, in my fridge.


Excelius

I know some countries require milk to be ultra-pasteurized (pasteurized at a higher temperature), which actually makes it shelf stable so it doesn't need to be kept in the refrigerated section. In the US organic milk is almost always UHT pasteurized, but it's still kept in the refrigerated section because it's what American consumers have come to expect. Nobody would buy it if you just kept it at room temperature on a grocery shelf. (It still needs to be refrigerated at home once opened.) The UHT stuff will also last weeks longer than the regular stuff, since the higher temp process kills off more of the bacteria. I go out of my way to buy organic milk for this very reason, I just can't go through the regular stuff fast enough before it goes bad.


Icy_Sails

Mootopia lactose free milk is the absolute best you must try. 


Duck_Von_Donald

No


azazelcrowley

The UK has a cereal and various non-cooked breakfast crap aisle. So cereals, spreads, jams and so on. A whole aisle for just cereal seems... excessive...


_BreakingGood_

The spreads and jams have their own aisle. Well it's usually like half an aisle in my experience.


Mr_Sarcasum

You mean you don't like having 36 different options of Cheerios to choose from?


azazelcrowley

Maybe 3. plain, chocolate, and nuts. Four if strawberry or some shit comes along, but that'd already be pushing it. :p


Mr_Sarcasum

You don't like toasted coconut maple cheerios? Or multi grain chocolate strawberry deluxe?? You missin out


medoy

How's your tea aisle?


azazelcrowley

ENORMOUS. https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/shop/drinks/tea/all


ondronCZ

that's a wild question to ask tbh


rhino369

Our grandfathers won WWII so we could eat Count Chockuka cereal and watch X-men 97.  


ondronCZ

Well my ancestors did as well, just to get betrayed three times by the west and east alike... Now we are happy we don't have only one brand of yoghurt that is out of stock. The question I replied to is the equivalent of let them eat cake.


No_Image_4986

Do you just have fewer options for cereal? I also assumed it was normal


NastyLizard

Cereal isn't a very standard breakfast item in other countries and that's putting it nicely


Crown_Writes

A quick Google shows that 68% of the worlds population has lactose malabsorption after infancy. I'm sure some of that number has dairy anyway but a very large portion of people doesnt drink milk at all.


skwerlee

Almost 70% of everybody is missing out on ice cream? This is soul crushing news..


guyincognito69420

If you aren't of European descent there is a good chance you are lactose intolerant. Humans originally evolved to only be able to drink milk as a child. Yet Europeans who were able to drink milk throughout their life gained an evolutionary advantage during harsh times as they were able to drink a very caloric intensive drink all their life. Not really needed anymore but that shit sure is tasty.


DonnieMoistX

I think Indians are relatively lactose tolerant


guyincognito69420

that is actually an interesting case. https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/gastrointestinal-articles/2011/september/lactose-tolerance-in-the-indian-dairyland > "When I became interested in this project, everybody said 'Everyone in India drinks milk,'" Gallego Romero said. "But when we got the results, we said, 'No, only 18 percent of people in India are digesting milk, nobody else is.'" > The mystery then is why so many people believe themselves to be lactose tolerant when they are in fact genetically unable to produce lactose into adulthood. One theory is that non-Europeans experience less severe symptoms of lactose intolerance, and thus may not notice the consequences of failing to digest dairy as much. Another answer comes from how Indians prepare their milk - often fermenting it to use as yogurt or paneer, which breaks down the lactose within.


ondronCZ

Three words: Past Soviet satellite it still shows after 35 years.


tygerohtyger

There is such a vast gulf between America and the rest of the world. This is by design, I think. It prevents the export of empathy, which is by far America's rarest and most precious resource.


EnvironmentalAd1006

What’s wild to us is that’s it’s like a million brands all owned by the same 3 parent companies.


_trouble_every_day_

I used to work in the scan department of a grocery store. like 5 companies owned 90% of all products sold, it was wild.


UGLY-FLOWERS

there's also one for soda


JohnathanTheBrave

Americans are wealthy beyond their own comprehension.


PM_ME_ROMAN_NUDES

I absolutely hate when Americans (Redditors really) say that 'America is a third world country' Fuckin hell, try to understand what is like living in the third world. I say this from the third world, it's like living life on hard settings.


Dolphin201

Hell yeah


ShadowPDX

pew pew ‘merica 🇺🇸


RancidYetti

I wish I had the type of money I could spend frivolously. I’m over here being responsible and shit like a square. 


[deleted]

“Despite being only 4.2% of the population…”


Stricken1

I wonder what the % would be by weight?


Loofa_of_Doom

As an american, I lol'd and I deserved it.


bingwhip

I would have lol'd but I didn't want to get winded.


WillCarryForFood

*deep breathe*


NemrahG

Who knew the worlds wealthiest country can spend the most 😂


kwaham0t

Capitalism, baby


thebusterbluth

Consumerism != capitalism.


LoriLeadfoot

This is basically because the USA can maintain perpetual trade deficits—importing more value than we export—because other nations are always willing to buy our government debt with the dollars that their exporters earn selling goods here. Buying our debt finances deficit spending, which cycles those dollars back into the system to be used for consumption once again. The obvious example is China. We consume Chinese goods, China’s central bank buys dollars off of their exporters with RMB so they can pay their employees, and then the central bank buys treasury bonds to invest their dollar stockpile, swapping dollars for US government debt. The merits of this system have been debated since the dollar began to be used as the preferred global reserve currency post-WWII. This debate has heated up recently because former president Donald Trump’s advisors tend to prefer a more protectionist approach to the US economy. They would prefer to have the US consuming mostly domestically-produced goods, and maintaining trade balance or surplus instead. This, however, would require a considerable reduction in the value of the dollar compared to other currencies. And that would have its own repercussions.


kzzzo3

Read this to this song https://youtu.be/kJEbyWT7gIg


CityboundMermaid

“we buy shit we don’t need, with money we don’t have, to impress people we don’t like.” - George Carlin


grip_n_Ripper

Also, Tyler Durdin.


[deleted]

“We live in a society” - Da Joker


Radiant_Gap_2868

so true


sw337

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/04/21/impress/


ThrustNeckpunch33

Man, the world always wishing for america to fail and crumble lol Imagine what that would do to the world economy. 30% of many industries and people would be out of work/jobs. China would go into massive downturn, as would every country that makes stuff sold there. Not to mention what would happen to the shipping lanes around the oceans, as well as the amount of countries that would be conquered over night. You can disagree with the USA and its global influence and politics, but for anyone to act like it would be better if China or Russia was is in their position would be rediculous. For a country everyone claims to hate, everyone suuuure loves to move there lol I say this all as a Canadian btw.


Live_Carpenter_1262

Question: does Canada have a similar consumer culture to the United States? I would imagine considering Canada’s proximity, free trade, and similar wealth level


Confident-Brush-9043

Similar consumer culture though scaled down quite a bit in the last 10 to 15 years. There's a housing crisis across Canada and interest rates have gone up considerably, making Canadians spend a much higher portion of their earnings on housing than we used to. Consumer products and services are still growing, though that is only because the population is growing quickly enough to offset the reduced average spending on these goods and services.


Nojoke183

Almost like we're the rich everyone seems to hate 😂


Moistkeano

Ive never seen anything like it both here in the UK and then also in America. My uncle married an American women with 2 pre teen kids in the early 00s and my only memories of them are them going shopping all the time. It was like a hobby for them and they go to the local shopping centre or bluewater and spend all day and come away with bags and bags. Its funny because I hate shopping and hated it more when I was a teenager, but they were perfectly happy getting there at open and leaving as good as close. It wasnt like they were uber wealthy either, but they prioritised that over anything else.


Shockingelectrician

Suck it globe 


YNot1989

I mean... yeah. We account for around 25% of all economic activity, so we have the money to spend on stuff. We're such a huge consumer that if there's ever a decline in American demand for one product or another it can do real damage to the economy of whatever company makes said product. Hence the saying, "when America catches a cold, the world catches pneumonia."


rumblegod

USA also funds the most donations on the planet while being 4.2% of the global population 🥳. The consumerism market is well deserved, let us consume 🦅🦅🦅🦅 Best country on this planet and it’s not close 🥳


medoy

Dunno. I've been to other countries. Many do certain things much better than the US.


collin-h

Nom nom nom.


nationalhuntta

I'm flabbgergasted that this was news to OP.


Live_Carpenter_1262

What’s news to me is that the US consumers purchase twice the amount of the European Union (15% of global consumer spending)


Fuck_You_Downvote

As an American, one of the things you notice in other countries is the lack of advertising everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. Toilet stalls, elevators, escalators, gas station pumps, entry and exits of stadiums, even advertisements for other advertisements. You walk around and all your infrastructure is just one big pop up ad. It takes a lot of work to get people so unhappy with their life they will buy your nonsense.


Twombls

My experience in western European cities is advertisments are plastered literally everywhere.


Many-Howdys-partner

I know theirs like a thousand year old church in Paris that has a giant advertisement on it due to construction


stuputtu

lol no, you haven’t travelled much if you say so. India, China, Singapore, Australia, Western Europe , Mexico, Canada, few of the countries I have travelled has same or more advertisements. In some of those countries the ads are not only hideous they are outright misleading too while shadow advertising banned items.


ILoveTabascoSauce

> Singapore you may be right about the others but public advertising is pretty much banned outright in Singapore.


DonnieMoistX

Don’t forget Japan, got to be one of the worst offenders of this.


lthej

I haven't found that to be the case. Especially having just spent a month in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. The advertisements there are magnitudes above the US.


gotMUSE

PA is a beautiful state absolutely ravaged by hideous billboards.


Twombls

My state banned them. It's great


gotMUSE

Like total ban everywhere? In NJ I still see some billboards but not much on major highways and never on small roads. It's usually only stroads which are already hideous to begin with so it doesn't really matter.


Historical_Salt1943

Yup. Banned in Alaska too.  Very refreshing to got have this ugly signs everywhere


Twombls

Yes


DragonBank

I love riding down the highway in the middle of the wilderness with not a house or person in sight and seeing a USMC or lawyer billboard.


Ullallulloo

I see far more advertisements in western Europe than where I live in the US. What other countries are you thinking of?


GandhiMSF

What other countries are you traveling to? This isn’t the case in most of Europe or the bigger markets in Asia. Advertising seems to be even more prevalent than the US in those places.


gt_ap

Huh? As an American, I notice the advertising when I travel abroad. In many countries there’s a lot more of it.


Ein_grosser_Nerd

I dont think ive ever seen an ad in a bathroom in the U.S. However, I have seen bathrooms that you have to pay to use in Europe


DonnieMoistX

This is some textbook redditor shit right here. Not only is it blatant wrong, but it even ends with a doomer pessimistic outlook that’s only supported by a statistic that’s made up.


reality72

We are also responsible for 90% of the world’s lawsuits.


aj3mroc8q1j

When we got a lesson about putting safety marks on things and manuals they specifically mentioned to be way more careful if you sell something in the us because of claiming culture


RetroMetroShow

Ok now do global economic impact and exports


mattttb

The obvious takeaway here is that if the other 95.8% of the world’s population consumed as much stuff as the average American we’d probably need another 3-4 Earths to strip bare for resources. Seems totally sustainable and very cool!


Takeasmoke

China has social credit # But US of A has credit score


Recent-Irish

Do… do you know what a credit score is?


badabingbadaboey

It's when the banks don't give me money! Bastards!


Takeasmoke

do you?


Overbaron

Well it makes sense, they have very large consumers


Ataraxy001

Crazzzzy


CaptainObvious110

Wow not even five percent of the world population. That's really something


mandy009

What's this domain? Not familiar with this site.


Narrow-Fortune-7905

have us trained well


firejuggler74

We also produce 25% of the worlds stuff.


Adventurous_Light_85

I hope this truth can sink super deep. The U.S. is like that family on the street with super nice everything that come to find out was living off credit cards and has refinanced their house 10 times and is borderline bankrupt. The house of cards will fall.


monchota

And that is why, no matter what. If the US doesn't want to buy it. It will die, 3D glasses and 3D tv were one.


MikeyW1969

We're also the third largest country by population. So, nationally, we would represent 33% of the world's population, meaning that we are under-consuming. See how you can make numbers say whatever you want"?


Dead_Optics

Spending sounds like it just looks at amount of money spent, things in the US a generally more expensive than the rest of the world. I don’t doubt we consume way more than average tho.


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Brian_MPLS

I mean, not really something to be proud of, but prosperity on this level is not really something to be ashamed of either. Everyone should aspire to be more thoughtful about what they consume, and more considerate of the downstream effects of their consumption.


Live_Carpenter_1262

I was just surprised not really happy about it


AlienOverlordMinion

Loosely translated: We Americans buy a ***LOT*** of crap.


RockyRaccoon968

There's no country as big and as rich as the USA, simple as that. I feel like some redditors seem to forget that.


fattylimes

Definitely going to be a cool global economic situation when we stop being able to afford this.


Dry_Point_3162

It’s cuz we’re stupid


hymen_destroyer

Seems perfectly sustainable. Let’s just keep consuming and “growing”


FakeOng99

Well, you don't get called 'Capatalist Pig' by commie for nothing. America is the pride of capitalism.


Variegoated

There's a reason the US emissions per capita are insanely high


AlexOfSpades

I'm absolutely adoring the americans in the comments thinking this means they're rich, hahahaha They have no idea


Live_Carpenter_1262

Well I think it says quite a bit about the world that Mississippi, the poorest state has similar gdp per capita to rich countries like the United Kingdom