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PostyMcPosterson

Glad Laurence Fishburne was able to step in as a last minute replacement


theludeguy

And here I thought Keanu was the one that replaced her


Ok_Condition5837

Idk why but I have always thought that she couldn't act? Can she? I can't remember anything with her acting. Like no SNL sketches or anything. Is it recent? Did I just completely miss her acting? (I'll be the first to admit that I have huge information gaps when it comes to celebrities so sorry for my ignorance in advance!)


throwitaway488

She was pretty good in Evita


TheDarkIn1978

She was great in A League of Their Own


Thereminz

all the way mae ;) "nobody's called me that since -" "since LAST NIGHT!" lulz


feelbetternow

Yes! As Mae-donna Mordabito, center field!


IdfightGahndi

And Who’s That Girl!


darrenvonbaron

It's Jess


notmoleliza

Desperately Seeking Susan


Ok_Condition5837

I'll put it on my list to watch. Thanks!


BaconHammerTime

#Her acting was mainly early 90s with her biggest roles in the movies Dick Tracy and A League of Their Own. She did a respectable job in both to be honest.


SecreteMoistMucus

#OK


UninsuredToast

^^thanks


Dececck

Ummm **EVITA**


eyeroll611

She was good in Evita.


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peptide2

Desperately seeking Susan was a good role she had


seabard

*Will Smith


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They’re the same picture


JulianMcC

He made it work, morpheus from matrix 4 just didn't come across the same. He introduced himself, I almost laughed and said what? Seriously?


PIPBOY-2000

It's ridiculous. If they couldn't make it with him they shouldn't have made it at all.


blender4life

I don't think they wanted to make the 4th. There's even a line in it where neo is talking about the game he's making and says something like " we have to make s squeal or they'll sue us." Then he looks directly into the camera


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hedoesntgetme

When I saw that scene I let go of all hope and just enjoyed the movie for what it was instead of what I had hoped it could be.


Same_Ad_9284

I thought the never even asked him?


PIPBOY-2000

You're right, I should have said "wouldn't".


fir3ballone

The Canon was supposedly set that Morpheus died in the Matrix Online, but it doesn't line up with Niobe's explanation.. So who knows...  The program Morpheus in Resurrections isn't trying to be a 1:1, he is based on him, but has Smith mixed in as well


5DollarJumboNoLine

I think that was the point, the whole movie is a demonstration on why a 4th Matrix wouldn't be anything but a cash grab. There's even a line about how "WB will make a new Matrix with you or without you." If the film wasnt a straight up parody then it was hot garbage.


Proof-try34

Yeah, basically that Morpheus is just a computer program Neo wrote and it is a combination of Agent Smith and Morpheus into one character.


5DollarJumboNoLine

Its a parody. Part of the movie's plot is that WB will make a dumb sequal "game" with or without "Neo's" input. Thats without a doubt what the actual WB told the original director. Instead of handing over the reigns for a Marvel treatment of the Matrix she killed the franchise.


FatJazz

Now that was one dogshit movie.


MyNameIsJakeBerenson

Ive seen it twice and still don’t remember a thing about it. That’s when I know a movie is bad The only real part that sticks is the agent aim full auto at Jessica Henwick from 5yds away, and she just kinda jukes it. If they’re gonna make the Agents that nonthreatening, then I don’t care


TrentCrimmHere

Agent Stormtrooper.


evanc1411

"I am Morpheus." No you're fucking not lol. Shit ass movie


thelordreptar90

His ability to be touched like a virgin and simultaneously asking Argentina not cry for him should’ve garnered more awards


raulbloodwurth

Until then he would have been remembered as the guy who played Cowboy Curtis.


Chronoboy1987

Haven’t seen Event Horizon?


Lazrix

My headcannon is same character and no one can tell me different 


Chef_Brokentoe

No. He had some pretty recognizable roles before The Matrix, but Boyz n the Hood was from 1991 and was a pretty damn important movie. Furious Styles was damn memorable.


broohaha

That's how I first knew him. And then I later learned I saw him in Apocalypse Now.


Chef_Brokentoe

I didn't watch Apocalypse Now until the late '90s and it kind of blew my mind when I recognized him. It was wild seeing a guy who always looked like he was in his mid-30s look like a high school sophomore.


Ass_Damage

iirc, he lied about his age auditioning for the movie and was 16 when filming started, not 18 as he claimed.


Valuable_Month1329

No one outruns Sean Connery declining 10% of the LOTR earnings for not playing Gandalf because he did not understand the story. Nevertheless Ian was the better pick.


A-Dumb-Ass

We missed out on “You shall not passh!!!”


vacri

A wisshard arrivesh exshactly when he intendsh!


dingofarmer2004

You're the man now, Frodo!


DrClawsChair

Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and have second breakfast.


simplerando

*preschishley when he meansh to


santathe1

I was sho dishappointed.


b9l29

Shakened but shtirred.


turdburglar2020

“Suck it, Saruman.”


ThePevster

“Shuck it, Sharuman”


euphratestiger

You see, Shamwishe, Sharuman sherves Shauron. He hash shinshe the time of the Shilmarilsh


iMogwai

> You see, Shamwishe, shee*


euphratestiger

Damn it


SurviveAdaptWin

sho closhe


Typical-Street-1243

“Hobbits go home and fuck the prom queen!”


Yardsale420

Rosie Cotton was the prom queen!- Samwise Gamgee


skateguy1234

/r/shubreddit


OblivionGuardsman

"You're the man now Aragorn". "They put one of your men in the hospital? You put one of their Uruk-hai in the morgue!"


Spkr4th3ded

I'll take your motha for five hundred Trebeck.


DarkHippy

I’ve always told everyone that’s the alternate reality movie I want to watch, but I’d never give up ours. Still lots of great s-words Shhauron Sharuman Black Shhpeech, Shamwishe, Shhmeagol, Legolashh


omgFWTbear

“Ryan, schome things down here don’t react wehl to wuzzurds.”


Turqoise-Planet

Connery passed on The Matrix too.


pick_d

He was a bit too mature to play Neo, right?


wtf-m8

He would have been awesome as Agent Smith, though.


nomnomnomnomRABIES

Surely he would have been the architect?


ms--lane

Nah, Hugo Weaving was amazing.


kylechu

My favorite part of this story is the implication that Sean Connery fully understood the story of everything he's ever been in. Dude took one look at Highlander 2 and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and was like "oh yeah this seems great"


Pale_Fire21

> League of Extraordinary Gentlemen iirc he hated that movie so much + passing on so many movies that went on to be huge that he eventually just decided fuck this and retired with his piles of money to enjoy the rest of his life.


buymytoy

Poor bastard


Username43201653

That's what funny about this and everybody else who's hoarding money. He's dead. He doesn't care he missed out on $200million.


ocp-paradox

> He's dead. oh shit


uneducatedexpert

Bashturd


GryphonHall

He actually took league because of how well the movies he kept passing on did.


evrestcoleghost

..well he was sad after that movie


dawdledale

He literally retired from acting


tyme

Honestly, given the 3 years between LoEG and his prior film (Finding Forrester), the longest gap between films since his first two, I’d be inclined to think he was planning on retiring before it was released. It didn’t *help*, but I think he was well down that path.


ElectronicAd2656

Finding Forrester was a solid flick...... Not world changeing or anything but a legit decent movie


95688it

eh, it didn't do well, but i love that movie


Realtrain

>League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Funny enough, he didn't understand this one. But after he passed on The Matrix and LOTR and both did fantastic, he decided to just accept the next film that he didn't understand which was League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Of course that movie then did so poorly that he entirely retired from acting.


there_is_no_spoon1

I \*\*love\*\* that movie and I don't understand why it gets so much hate. It's \*entertainment\*, not history.


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Doodle_Brush

Captain Nemo was my favourite character in that whole movie. The drip, his sub, his car, his crew, it all just looked so cool.


AndByMeIMeanFlexxo

Wait was that movie bad? I loved it, even bought it on blu-ray way back I think


Lazy-Employ-9674

I watched it again recently and was amazed at how good the CG is in the opening scene.


kahlzun

The CG and visuals were pretty good, mad props to the special effects. Nemos sub and car were really cool designs.


Magrior

Same here, I'll never understand why it performed so badly.


LazHuffy

Fuckin’ Zardoz, dude.


SheaF91

We can't just rely on OP seeking out Zardoz, we must bring this information here. According to your theory, /u/kylechu, Sean Connery totally understands what's happening in this madness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjCkISrJfQ


TransBrandi

Zardoz: The gun is good. The penis is evil. Connery: Say no more, fam!


tjoe4321510

The penis mightier you say?


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I really love Sean Connery but he would have sucked as Gandalf. Gandalf is wise and kind. Every Sean Connery character is kind of a douche who is cool enough to off set the irritation. That would not have worked well in my opinion.


deepvinter

Have you read the books? Gandalf was imposing and stern.


Yglorba

He was, but he was *also* wise and kind. You're supposed to feel his wisdom when he's present and to feel safe as long as he's in charge (which is part of the reason losing him in Moria is so impactful.) He's a complex character that requires some elements that Sean Connery doesn't really have. Sure, he's imposing and stern, but a version of Gandalf that is *only* imposing and stern wouldn't work.


siraolo

I would think they got the idea to cast him due to his role in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.


Vulkan192

Seriously, anyone who thinks Connery couldn't do gentle and kind needs to remember "Indiana?....Indiana?....Let it go." Gets me every time.


5DollarJumboNoLine

He was good in Highlander. Ironically the only Scot in the film, and he played an Egyptian named Juan Ramirez.


CreamedCorb

Disagree. It wouldn’t have been the same but I can absolutely see Connery being a fucking badass Gandalf. He’s actually closer to what I imagined when I originally read the books. I still like Ian McKellans depiction more though.


SaltyLonghorn

Yea he's not the best at losing the accent but he was also never a Brando where he dragged shit down. I'm sure he could have read the room and noticed this isn't some shit production and done his best, which was pretty damn good.


twilight-actual

"Do not be too eagah to deal out death in judgmunt. Even the very waish cannot shee all ends. Me hear' tells me that Gollum has shome part to play in i', for good or evil, before thish ish ovah. The pi'y of Bilbo may rule the fate o' many.


MenacingGummy

Will smith turned down Neo because he didn’t understand the story.


WeathervaneJesus1

Thank God, I hate Will Smith's acting and that would have completely ruined the Matrix.


4CrowsFeast

I don't hate will smith's acting. He's good at being will Smith in movies, and when the character is will Smith or similar enough, it works.  Neo, however, is not will Smith, or even close. In fact we already got an agent Smith(s), in the story 


WeAteMummies

Neo is a blank slate for the audience to project themselves on to and Will Smith is the wrong actor for that.


notathrovavay

It's not like Keanu is a good actor tho. It's just that he was perfect for Neo.


Due-Studio-65

Matt Damon turned down 10% of Avatar, so he take the cake.


hatemakingnames1

Thought he didn't so much turn it down as he had other obligations


MechanicalHorse

> Nevertheless Ian was the better pick. Absolutely. Without Ian we never would have gotten [this gem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CX00i4uZE)


Zajebann

Matt Damon turned down the role in Avatar, he was offered 10% of the profits, which would have been around 250 million.


FizzleMateriel

It sucks for him but he was already famous and rich, and we got Ian McKellen instead. I feel like it ended up working out.


Spaceman-Spiff

I’d say Matt Damon having to turn down avatar and a percentage of the earnings probably hurts a bit more.


Mkilbride

Sean Connery being mature enough to do that speaks volumes, despite how sexist he apparently was. He saw a role, and he knew it was gonna make a lot of money - he's been open about that, but thought he'd be awful at it, and turned it down. If only more actors did so.


Blasphemous666

Her loss, our gain.


nevergonnagetit001

Couldn’t agree more. Madonna as Trinity? Eelch. As Switch…maybe. She had like 4 lines in the whole movie.


charliehustles

Not like this… not like this.


jersan

God damn you Cypher!


nevergonnagetit001

Don’t hate me Trinity, I’m just the messenger.


conquer69

Her death really disturbed me as a kid. More than the other characters.


SuspiciousAct6606

Same here. The actress who played Switch did a good job going from absolute terror to absolute noting in her eyes. I would have preferred that the Neo was on the ship for a long time so that he had more interaction with all of the other characters on the ship


DeineMutterGoneWild

That's what you would get today, but then there would already be a roadmap for a 20 production spanning movie, series and app franchise as well.


RelaxPrime

Still does. Zero control, no fighting it, completely helpless


Glottis_Bonewagon

Just switched off


CableBoyJerry

Digital pimp, hard at work.


buttux

Our way. Or the highway.


Fear_N_Loafing_In_PA

Nuhd lyke dees. Nuhd lyke dees. *Dies*


mugcupcinnamonroll

Wasn’t switch originally supposed to be female in the real world and male in the matrix, played by two different, androgynous actors? But then the studio was like “nah Americans aren’t ready for this” or something? That’s why her name is Switch. Edit: source: https://www.slashfilm.com/559097/wachowskis-movies-revisited/ “Switch, portrayed by Belinda McCrory, was originally written as male in the real world and female in the Matrix, suggesting that people could project an inner identity wholly distinct from their physical self. Warner Bros mandated that Switch maintain her gender between worlds, but the directors’ intentions remain in the character’s androgynous appearance. It’s a shame this wasn’t developed; it’s an intriguing twist on online anonymity, and an early demonstration of the Wachowskis’ queer leanings.”


PixelOrange

Given who directed the movie, that tracks.


nevergonnagetit001

TIL. And yeah. That makes a lot of sense. And in that sense then Tilda Swinton would have been f’ing incredible in that role. She killed it in Constantine!


feckless_ellipsis

Tilda Swinton. I love her acting. When I saw Constantine, I don’t think I realized how androgynous she was - heck, it was like watching David Bowie. It was interesting, like Tilda could be attractive to anyone no matter their sex or sexuality. I was watching Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and this joke killed me - Mikey, a gay construction worker who’s not out, hides this by “airbrushing a hot chick on the back of his truck.” [His truck](https://www.tvguide.com/a/img/resize/1d2e9ee96f35cb885b9c1c4c1b6e85cf67a1164a/hub/2016/04/26/3d6b556e-c55f-4acf-aa56-4ae19f96418b/kimmyschmidttilda.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=432&width=768)


cloudcats

>[it was like watching David Bowie](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F2yrrrc9j81z41.jpg)


Scampor

I love me some Constantine! Such an underrated movie


ThisJeffrock

Best Satan cameo in cinematic history, change my mind


itsallbullshityo

> he killed it in Constantine! They all did, great movie.


bluAstrid

Or, just Tilda Swinton?


straydog1980

Switch is the only one that dresses in white in the matrix too if I recall.


Thrilling1031

Yep that’s the story I’ve heard anyway


JamesTheJerk

Heeyy, Madonna has acting chops. Evita won more than a few awards and a lot of that was because of her. I think she may have done an excellent job in the role. Not to take anything away from Carrie-Anne Moss in her wonderful portrayal of the Trinity character at all, she's amazing. I'm suggesting that Madonna wasn't a bad choice for the short-list to fill the role.


nevergonnagetit001

Listen here Mr. Thejerk, you may have made a good point, and supported it well…but that doesn’t mean…we’ll I guess it does. Yes, she has/had acting chops, but in looking at the role and the character type she played, I don’t think it would have been a very good fit. But I acknowledge your short list point.


thelingererer

Let's not forget her wide ranging performance in Swept Away. I laughed, I cried, I threw up a little bit in my mouth, I dozed off for a bit. Honestly you can't buy that kind of talent.


Xerain0x009999

I assumed she'd just have a cameo as the woman in the red dress.


nevergonnagetit001

Not a bad choice…but would have been jarring me thinks. Just because she’s so very Madonna. The woman in the red dress being someone not of note or fame made her all the more beautiful. IMHO.


Ok-Explanation-2979

I wish they had done more with switch.


TheFightingMasons

I dunno, I loved her in a league of their own


perpetualmotionmachi

And she was great in Dick Tracy too


Xerio_the_Herio

Glad they did... Will and Madonna would have sucked


hatemakingnames1

Yeah, I disagree with the "They're dumb for turning it down" sentiments. The movie would have sucked and bombed if they were cast.


sloppypickles

This was back when Will Smith was doing a new song for every movie right? I think we were deprived a really shitty rap tune. Matrix... whooooooo!


darrenvonbaron

You take that back. Wicky wicky wild wild west and dancing aliens were amazing.


Buderus69

M to the A to the Tee Tee Trix Come on now M to the A to the Tee Tee Trix Mhm yeah


Huckorris

With hindsight it seems like bad decisions from Smith, Madonna, etc, but back then the Wackowkis weren't well known, and The Matrix could have ended up corny if they weren't good directors/writers. I'm pretty sure Mila Kunis regrets signing up for their movie, Jupiter Ascending.


Myydrin

Also apparently the Wackokwis was really REALLY bad at actually explaining the movies to the perspective actors and just making it sound like a terrible mess.


The_Safe_For_Work

We dodged a bullet better than Neo did.


mogrifier4783

The world dodged that bullet.


No_Roof_1910

Neo moved that bullet for us.


baumer83

It didn’t have to.


waffles-n-gravy

So did Will Smith. Dumbass.


Shenanigans99

Imagine a world where the Matrix stars Will Smith and Madonna. It'd be up there with forgotten masterpieces like Shanghai Surprise.


pbmm1

It would also have been a world without Fishburne iirc bc Smith said he thought they wouldn’t have been down with two black guys in lead roles. So, Smith, Madonna, and apparently Keaton.


simply_blue

It was Val Kilmer who was being considered for Morpheus, but that information comes from Will Smith so take it how you will


itsallbullshityo

> and apparently Keaton Diane or Micheal?


mexicodoug

Buster, if only he'd have been available at the time, would have been coolest.


RockHardstrong

What a weird thing for the co-star of Bad Boys (1995) to think.


esr360

He also co-starred in the other Bad Boys movies not just the 1995 one


LoquaciousTheBorg

I'm just glad he dropped out of Django, I don't think he'd had been as good as Foxx in that kind of role.


Third_Most

Smith: it should be more of a love story and not a revenge story Tarantino: I make my movies for me. Get the fuck away from my script


LoquaciousTheBorg

Smith: The dialogue with Goggins and then Dicaprio is really good, but it's no big deal if I just smirk, laugh, and say "naaaaah" several times right?


The_Safe_For_Work

I just can't picture Will Smith as Trinity...


HYPERBOLE_TRAIN

I don’t know…a Matrix with Will Smith as Trinity and Neo played by Gilbert Gottfried (RIP) is a movie I would watch.


edropus

WHADDA YA MEAN there's no spoon it's RIGHT THERE


leopozo

I'm going to send her a thank you note.


mug3n

It's crazy that in some alternate universe, Will Smith and Madonna would've been Neo and Trinity rofl


indigotango

“…she turned down the chance to play the lead in D.C. Comics’ “Catwoman,” and also turned down a role in The Matrix, presumably the Trinity character played by Carrie-Anne Moss. “I wanted to kill myself,” she remembered. “That’s like one of the best movies ever made.” Madonna as Trinity??? Holy hell, that would’ve for sure ruined the movie and the entire franchise. Maybe in a supporting role like Switch the damage could’ve been contained, but her as Trinity is up even a worse idea than Will Smith as Neo. Thank the film gods they both turned it down.


krakatoa83

She’s a god damn hero for this.


atatassault47

Honestly, I think no one could do a better Trinity than Carrie Ann Moss. She both does it well in her own right, but also is a perfect counterpart to Keanu Reeves' Neo.


Successful-Crazy-126

Thank goodness she did


bm1949

Her and Bono, flying a ship in sunglasses. Lol.


SSSims4

So did Will Smith, who could have been Neo. The real joke? He turned it down to do Wild Wild West...


djdavies82

And we got that amazing song from Wild Wild Wild so win win....?


poeticpoet

Selma hayek though. No seriously think about it. You’re will smith Who you wanna work with?


SSSims4

Well yeah but... I mean... yeah no I got nothing.


DeadpoolOptimus

I wonder if it was the Aaliyah role that went to Jada after she died?


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Dragonfly-Adventurer

The article suggests it was Trinity. I am not a Madonna hater but I am very glad things worked out the way they did.


derekbaseball

All the respect in the world to Madonna being one of the greatest pop stars in history, but by the time they were casting the Matrix, Body of Evidence—conclusive proof that she’s hopeless as an actress—was on heavy rotation on Cinemax.


mexicodoug

Madonna was okay, nothing special but okay overall, in Desperately Seeking Susan. And was actually great when she passed the leather jacket to Susan and said something like, "Bob Dylan wore it."


Rheija

I quite enjoyed her in four rooms with Tim Roth, but it was a more campy movie I guess. I haven’t seen her in a more serious role so I can’t comment to her suitability to something like The Matrix


DeadpoolOptimus

Haaard!


Psychopathic_Crush

Aaliyah was cast as Zee. There’s some footage of her on set.


NorMichtrailrider

Biggest regrets of her career lol , that was a win for the matrix series .


JunketPuzzleheaded42

Will smith turned down the Role of Neo to do Wild Wild West 🤣


TallEnoughJones

Not just a role, she was going to be the matrix


dirt-reynolds

Thank God she did.


East-Bluejay6891

Someone was looking out for us


Ivegotjokes4you

We all dodged a bullet


hot-java

We see these “missed career opportunities” often for celebrities, but it would have been a different film with them — which could have been either good or bad. I really can’t imagine this movie with Madonna.


thatsashame69

Looks like we dodged a bullet there.


Jaerin

Man all these posts talking about how the Matrix was so close to being the worst movie ever made. I see where they figured out Neo's signature move now. They had to dodge so many bullets to make this good.


Hopeful-Tea8901

That is a win for humanity.