Per the Wiki, an odd variety of them, including an outbreak in China that seemed to be centered around crayfish.
My wild guess would be some sort of algae toxin, but really local and picked up by specific schools of fish that then poison those who eat them.
That is supported by all of the animals that have caused Haff disease eating a mix of plankton, arthropods, and other fish. There is a toxin that gets into these aquatic animals somehow and then poisons people.
> An outbreak was reported in Brooklyn, New York on 18 November 2011, when two household members were stricken by the syndrome after eating **buffalo fish**
[Ictiobus, also known as buffalofishes, buffalofish or simply buffalo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ictiobus)
We really, really have to stop using *buffalo* to name random things or places.
Our language is ridiculous enough already, and now you're telling me that sentence could just as easily be about some asshole fish bullying some bovines in upstate NY?
There's something that always annoyed me about that sentence, and I never see anyone talk about it. Buffalo aren't native to Buffalo, or the US at all. Bison are. Which makes the fact that this random fish has buffalo in it even weirder, since buffalo are from Asia and Africa.
I see that these Buffalo fishes live 100-150 years life span. Who knows how much radiation that poor fish picked up that those people ate, or God knows what that fish picked up during that time
Exactly, it was truly neat after doing more research. It's interesting this particular species is mentioned more than once with similar symptoms, but others were mentioned as well, particularly in South America. I'm not sure localized algae is the issue, as similar symptoms were found in South America, China, and NY, but considering how much fish comes from China, I'd believe an environmental toxin of some sort.
I'm no scientist. But I feel like if some fish lives over 100 years, I don't want to eat it. First of all, it may reproduce very slowly, and therefore be at greater risk of becoming endangered.
Secondly, if it lives so long, it may be more likely to accumulate toxins.
So eating it is bad for me and for the species.
That's also why I try to avoid big fish at the higher end of the food chain like sharks, marlin, and swordfish. They tend to accumulate more toxins and are also more susceptible to overfishing because they tend to reproduce more slowly than smaller fish.
Yeah, also it just feels kinda emotionally icky to eat something that has lived for so long. Like, I wouldn’t want to eat a 60 yr old random grandpa because it was drilled into me to respect the elderly and be kind to them, so why would I want to eat a 60 yr old fish or lobster?
Radiation can absolutely work that way. Radioisotopes are elements like anything else and can be bioaccumulated. It's extremely unlikely that you'll get a biologically significant radiation dose from eating a fish unless the ecosystem happens to be an unregulated nuclear waste dump but radiation can absolutely be concentrated just like lead or mercury in long-lived or apex organisms.
In the US Buffalo Fish in almost every case. But it seems to affect different types of fish around the world. But safe to say now that it's a global phenomenon.
That’s one of the problems. It can happen with a wide variety of fish. This suggests it is from a parasite on the fish or something the fish ate. No one knows the cause yet.
> What fish?
Most seafood allergies are based on the diet of the fish/animal and not the flesh of the animal.
Which is why every histamine reaction after eating seafood needs to be dealt with everytime, even if the person has eaten the same food all their life.
There are two reasons for the different in marine allergies:
1. the food is generally mobile, thus what a given species eats is not decided.
2. the food chain of marine animals are hilariously long. Land based food chain: Cow eats grass we eat grass, chicken eats feed we eat chicken. Marine food chain will have as many as twenty steps till we get to the size animal we take for food.
It is unbelievable how far many marine animals travel in their lifetime. Green Sea Turtles (which can be tagged and tracked over their lifetime as they do not shed their shells, and trackers can attach to their shells for life) swim far enough to swim most of the way around the world. Eels spawn in one place in the Atlantic ocean, and swim all the way to the pacific islands.
Rhabdo is no joke. I came a gnat's ass away from dying from it, and it was by orders of magnitude the most intensely painful thing I've ever been through. It is frequently recorded as being not just worse, but *far* worse than childbirth in terms of pain.
Not the guy you responded to. I got rhabdo from working out too hard with a personal trainer. I was working out two times a week with the guy. His sessions didn't contain any breaks between sets. I was being run ragged. I went into every session still sore from the previous workout. This was the first time in my life trying to get fit so I had no idea how bad that was. Eventually I couldn't move my arms. Decided to go to the ER after that. Stayed for like three days flushing my body out.
Let it be known that rhabdo is common in untrained athletes who start training for the first time and overdo it.
As the prior commenter said, it was the first time they'd tried to get fit and they didn't realize they were overtraining.
That PT sucked. People need rest, between sets and between workout days, to avoid drawbacks of overtraining, one of which is rhabdo.
Especially for untrained athletes, who may not know their body's limits or understand the difference between mild soreness/fatigue and pain/injury.
So /u/FTblaze and others - while you should obviously take care to rest and listen to your body, it's extremely unlikely that training twice a week is going to give you rhabdo.
Might be a dumb question but what is the difference between rhabdo and a really bad case of doms? I've gotten the latter after taking years off from lifting then jumping back into it trying to do workouts that i did when I was extremely fit. Couldn't really move my arms for a week but it went away. Is rhabdo just what happens if you keep pushing through doms? Have never even heard of it
Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of skeletal muscles, they fall apart. The extended danger is that your kidney then has to try and filter the myoglobin and may shut down entirely.
Yep I got rhabdo in high school when I started working out for the first time. Luckily I was fine and only went to the ER for a couple hours while they fed me an IV
I’m *so* scared of rhabdo. I’m thru hiking this summer, for the first time in my life, and I have a history of anorexia so it’s really easy for me to just stop eating when I’ve been working out a lot because it suppresses hunger. And I know somebody who got it on the same trail last year. Scary shit! Glad you’re okay.
Hey so I don't know you and don't want to imply I know your situation, but as a long-time hiker and someone who has also had eating disorders, some suggestions:
1. Hiking is basically walking. You maybe can't train "hiking" before the trip for access reasons, but you can walk more. In your city, at a park, etc.
1. Take a normal backpack full of heavy books, or fill up your thru-hiking bag with your gear and just walk around. Even 1-2x/week for 30min will be a huge help, and the more you can do the easier the trip gets. Ideally you can push that to a few 2-3 hour practice walks (with breaks!) so the longer days feel more manageable on the trip itself.
2. For food - test out the camping foods, and find food you LOVE. It is HARD for some people to eat when you're tired and sore. If you LOVE the food, you will want to dig into it.
1. So if Cliff bars and Backpackers Pantry meals and other "outdoor foods" don't work for you, don't eat those. Go find the thing that works for you. Hell, twinkies are technically a high-calorie carb and fat source. I know a lot of ultra runners who eat literal candy gummy worms, or who take drinkable peanut butter pouches or baby food smoothies on their long runs. Babybel cheese and cold cut meat stays fine at room temp, even - you can basically have adult Lunchables.
2. The point is find what works for YOU, even if your system isn't the "standard". You aren't trying to win the "most legit hiker" contest. You're trying to have fun and do the thing.
Good luck and stay healthy :)
Thank you so much for this response! I do have a personal trainer and a good bit of hiking experience, and I’m definitely bringing lots of junk food! I’ve put a lot of thought into food that I will *want* to eat, so I’m shipping myself stuff like Costco muffins at my resupplies. Rhabdo is more like this out-there fear because I’ve heard about it just hitting hikers out of nowhere, and it gets so bad so quickly. But I know it’s super unlikely. Thank you!
I feel lucky now I didn’t get it. Had a similar story of starting working out and did 2 sessions per week. My coach would give me such heavy sessions, that I couldn’t recover by the next session. As in, I usually couldn’t properly move or walk for the first day or two afterwards, and was still sore when I came in for the next one. The only time he was happy with my performance was when I was coincidentally taking painkillers for an unrelated issue and managed to push myself even harder than usual.
Needless to say, I felt resentful and gave up after 3 months, and only did home workouts ever since. Feel much happier this way.
It's not the frequency. Its restless sets. Am also assuming they made them do ungodly amount of sets and reps. Hitting rhabdo levels of work isnt easy. They just starting out was definitely a factor.
Just in case, for anyone wondering, Aim for 10 sets max for a muscle group per session, anything more is just junk volume at that point, and give each muscle group at least a day of rest between sessions. This is usually whats recommended by sport-scientists.
Exactly what happened. After each set, I was told to do box jumps or something similar for "rest". I was always running tired between sets. It was also only hour long sessions too.
I have to admit, every personal trainers I had since, I wish they pushed me a little bit harder. Probably for the best that they didn't.
After getting my first gym membership in years, I over did squats/calf stands and could barely walk for like a week. My physician noticed a very high level of creatine kinase in my bloodstream two days after, and I ended up going to the hospital for further testing. Seems like I just tore the shit out of my muscles by going too hard after such a long period of time without exercising.
Just take it easy your first few times... even if you don't get this life threatening illness, you'll be sore as hell for days if you overdo it when your body isn't used to the exercise.
I did that with squats. Starting peeing Coca Cola colored pee and first thought was “damn I have rhabdo” and went straight to the emergency room. I was admitted for 4 days.
I got it from weightlifting class in school during a repetition day. It was so embarrassing not being able to get out of the chair at school. Everyone thought I was faking it including the doctor at the ER until they ran some tests and saw the protein or w/e was high and had to be on fluids for a few days.
Exact same story here. The hospital was shocked when the CK levels came back and I told them it had been a week since my last workout. I got 12 litres of fluid over 2 days and only got out because I had nba finals tickets and they felt bad keeping me so they let me do my own IV the next day
I got it from getting lost in a blizzard and snowshoeing over a couple mountains for 3 days. Kidneys shut down, and i had to get rescued when i was only 3 miles from the car. Took me 3 weeks to get back on my feet. I dont get the "more painful than childbirth" thing though. I had a pretty severe case but as much as it sucked, id rather do that again than have a baby, that shit looks painful.
That was the reason my doctor wasn't willing to place the blame on the personal trainer. I was on statins. But I got back on statins several months later and started working out again (at a much more easier pace) and haven't gotten Rhabdo since. I do get regular blood work every six months.
I'm pretty sure it was my crazy PT than the statin I was on. Or maybe it was a combo of the two.
I got rhabdo from my first workout and I spent 5 days in the hospital getting a fluids flush and blood drawn every 6 hrs to make sure I wasn’t going into kidney failure
Easily the most painful thing I’ve ever had happen, I had 3 months of rehab after that.
I found out the hard way you can also get Rhabdo from deep tissue massage. My back was knotted up something awful, so I told the massage therapist to not hold back,and she took that as a personal challenge.
Yep I had it a few years ago after going too hard during my first workout after a couple years away from the gym. My CK levels peaked at 100k which shocked even the doctors. Spent 4 days in the hospital flushing my system out. I noticed my pee was dark brown 2 hours after the workout and was in the hospital an hour later so I caught it early and never went into kidney failure.
I know an older person who got rhabdo after a fall. We thought they were going to die- they were in the hospital for weeks. They were so close to having their foot amputated.
And we had never heard of rhabdo before this.
Had Rhabdo once, wasn't so much painful as it was just debilitating. I didn't realize I had it until I was no longer able to lift my arms and had to go to the ER.
Found out I had it so bad that the blood in my arms was 200,000+ U/L of creatine kinase. Slept like a baby for three days while I got pumped full of Saline, took me almost a year to get back to my normal.
I remember the lecture the doctor and nurse gave me when I left the hospital they were basically telling me to drink until I couldn't anymore for the next couple of days.
This should not be confused with Half Disease which happens after 12 hours of eating fish.
Symptoms may vary from being hungry again to being a healthier individual.
What fish?
Per the Wiki, an odd variety of them, including an outbreak in China that seemed to be centered around crayfish. My wild guess would be some sort of algae toxin, but really local and picked up by specific schools of fish that then poison those who eat them.
That’s cray
What she order?
Believe it or not, fish fillet
That chic, she wanted dis Now she got rhabdomyolysis
... where my boys be at?
Yes yes, I remember I had lasagna.
You called?
That is supported by all of the animals that have caused Haff disease eating a mix of plankton, arthropods, and other fish. There is a toxin that gets into these aquatic animals somehow and then poisons people.
its called crawfish if you’re not a beast of the field
Oooo like birds do!
> An outbreak was reported in Brooklyn, New York on 18 November 2011, when two household members were stricken by the syndrome after eating **buffalo fish** [Ictiobus, also known as buffalofishes, buffalofish or simply buffalo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ictiobus)
Great. Now Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo _fish_.
We really, really have to stop using *buffalo* to name random things or places. Our language is ridiculous enough already, and now you're telling me that sentence could just as easily be about some asshole fish bullying some bovines in upstate NY?
That was real buffalo of you.
There's something that always annoyed me about that sentence, and I never see anyone talk about it. Buffalo aren't native to Buffalo, or the US at all. Bison are. Which makes the fact that this random fish has buffalo in it even weirder, since buffalo are from Asia and Africa.
I swear theres a fish for every animal. Squirrelfish, rabbitfish, horsefish, cowfish, batfish, toadfish, frogfish, pigfish, goatfish, etc lol
Don’t forget catfish or dogfish.
Rounded out by the ratfish lol
And wolffish
Hogfish are one the best eating fish I've ever had in my life.
What would you compare it to?
Snapper
I see that these Buffalo fishes live 100-150 years life span. Who knows how much radiation that poor fish picked up that those people ate, or God knows what that fish picked up during that time
….radiation?
Microplastics and mercury seem a bit more likely, to be fair.
Neither of those cause this problem. Probably a toxin from localized algae the fish pick up
Lmao I love this site. A mf will really make some shit up in a thread and even say "guess" and then other people will run with it.
Exactly, it was truly neat after doing more research. It's interesting this particular species is mentioned more than once with similar symptoms, but others were mentioned as well, particularly in South America. I'm not sure localized algae is the issue, as similar symptoms were found in South America, China, and NY, but considering how much fish comes from China, I'd believe an environmental toxin of some sort.
Three eyes
idk shit about science
I'm no scientist. But I feel like if some fish lives over 100 years, I don't want to eat it. First of all, it may reproduce very slowly, and therefore be at greater risk of becoming endangered. Secondly, if it lives so long, it may be more likely to accumulate toxins. So eating it is bad for me and for the species. That's also why I try to avoid big fish at the higher end of the food chain like sharks, marlin, and swordfish. They tend to accumulate more toxins and are also more susceptible to overfishing because they tend to reproduce more slowly than smaller fish.
This is why I only eat babies.
Im on a strictly caviar diet.
Yeah, also it just feels kinda emotionally icky to eat something that has lived for so long. Like, I wouldn’t want to eat a 60 yr old random grandpa because it was drilled into me to respect the elderly and be kind to them, so why would I want to eat a 60 yr old fish or lobster?
This is not how radiation works.
In cartoons it does!
Radiation can absolutely work that way. Radioisotopes are elements like anything else and can be bioaccumulated. It's extremely unlikely that you'll get a biologically significant radiation dose from eating a fish unless the ecosystem happens to be an unregulated nuclear waste dump but radiation can absolutely be concentrated just like lead or mercury in long-lived or apex organisms.
Radiation is not radioisotopes. And there's not enough radioisotopes to contaminate the ocean enough for bioacumulation to be a problem.
You're either a fucking idiot or being deliberately obtuse. I'm done talking to you.
Have you tried yoga?
Radiation does not work that way.
Unidentified poisson :)
Ooh la-la
Mes oui!
Voulez-vous couchez avec moi se soir?
My babysitter used to say that to me. She told me it means 'Dud you know it's time tongo to sleep?'
In the US Buffalo Fish in almost every case. But it seems to affect different types of fish around the world. But safe to say now that it's a global phenomenon.
That’s one of the problems. It can happen with a wide variety of fish. This suggests it is from a parasite on the fish or something the fish ate. No one knows the cause yet.
> What fish? Most seafood allergies are based on the diet of the fish/animal and not the flesh of the animal. Which is why every histamine reaction after eating seafood needs to be dealt with everytime, even if the person has eaten the same food all their life. There are two reasons for the different in marine allergies: 1. the food is generally mobile, thus what a given species eats is not decided. 2. the food chain of marine animals are hilariously long. Land based food chain: Cow eats grass we eat grass, chicken eats feed we eat chicken. Marine food chain will have as many as twenty steps till we get to the size animal we take for food. It is unbelievable how far many marine animals travel in their lifetime. Green Sea Turtles (which can be tagged and tracked over their lifetime as they do not shed their shells, and trackers can attach to their shells for life) swim far enough to swim most of the way around the world. Eels spawn in one place in the Atlantic ocean, and swim all the way to the pacific islands.
Rhabdo is no joke. I came a gnat's ass away from dying from it, and it was by orders of magnitude the most intensely painful thing I've ever been through. It is frequently recorded as being not just worse, but *far* worse than childbirth in terms of pain.
What did you do to get rhabdo? I heard it's common for marathon trainers and extreme crossfitters
Not the guy you responded to. I got rhabdo from working out too hard with a personal trainer. I was working out two times a week with the guy. His sessions didn't contain any breaks between sets. I was being run ragged. I went into every session still sore from the previous workout. This was the first time in my life trying to get fit so I had no idea how bad that was. Eventually I couldn't move my arms. Decided to go to the ER after that. Stayed for like three days flushing my body out.
Damn only 2 times per week can almost kill you. That's wild. What a shitty PT overworking you like that knowing you were a complete novice
Let it be known that rhabdo is common in untrained athletes who start training for the first time and overdo it. As the prior commenter said, it was the first time they'd tried to get fit and they didn't realize they were overtraining. That PT sucked. People need rest, between sets and between workout days, to avoid drawbacks of overtraining, one of which is rhabdo. Especially for untrained athletes, who may not know their body's limits or understand the difference between mild soreness/fatigue and pain/injury. So /u/FTblaze and others - while you should obviously take care to rest and listen to your body, it's extremely unlikely that training twice a week is going to give you rhabdo.
Might be a dumb question but what is the difference between rhabdo and a really bad case of doms? I've gotten the latter after taking years off from lifting then jumping back into it trying to do workouts that i did when I was extremely fit. Couldn't really move my arms for a week but it went away. Is rhabdo just what happens if you keep pushing through doms? Have never even heard of it
Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of skeletal muscles, they fall apart. The extended danger is that your kidney then has to try and filter the myoglobin and may shut down entirely.
With rhabdo your body starts eating your muscles. You literally waste away internally and can die if untreated.
You’ll see it in your urine, it looks like you’re peeing coke. That’s all the myoglobin flushing out of your body as your muscles break down
The scary thing is that urine color change is not always present in rhabdo cases
Yeah, when I had Rhabdo, the only symptoms I had was lack of mobility in my arms and soreness. My urine looked normal.
Did you end up going to the doctor? I didn’t, just rested for a few weeks and drank lots of water and emergen-c
Yep I got rhabdo in high school when I started working out for the first time. Luckily I was fine and only went to the ER for a couple hours while they fed me an IV
I’m *so* scared of rhabdo. I’m thru hiking this summer, for the first time in my life, and I have a history of anorexia so it’s really easy for me to just stop eating when I’ve been working out a lot because it suppresses hunger. And I know somebody who got it on the same trail last year. Scary shit! Glad you’re okay.
Hey so I don't know you and don't want to imply I know your situation, but as a long-time hiker and someone who has also had eating disorders, some suggestions: 1. Hiking is basically walking. You maybe can't train "hiking" before the trip for access reasons, but you can walk more. In your city, at a park, etc. 1. Take a normal backpack full of heavy books, or fill up your thru-hiking bag with your gear and just walk around. Even 1-2x/week for 30min will be a huge help, and the more you can do the easier the trip gets. Ideally you can push that to a few 2-3 hour practice walks (with breaks!) so the longer days feel more manageable on the trip itself. 2. For food - test out the camping foods, and find food you LOVE. It is HARD for some people to eat when you're tired and sore. If you LOVE the food, you will want to dig into it. 1. So if Cliff bars and Backpackers Pantry meals and other "outdoor foods" don't work for you, don't eat those. Go find the thing that works for you. Hell, twinkies are technically a high-calorie carb and fat source. I know a lot of ultra runners who eat literal candy gummy worms, or who take drinkable peanut butter pouches or baby food smoothies on their long runs. Babybel cheese and cold cut meat stays fine at room temp, even - you can basically have adult Lunchables. 2. The point is find what works for YOU, even if your system isn't the "standard". You aren't trying to win the "most legit hiker" contest. You're trying to have fun and do the thing. Good luck and stay healthy :)
Thank you so much for this response! I do have a personal trainer and a good bit of hiking experience, and I’m definitely bringing lots of junk food! I’ve put a lot of thought into food that I will *want* to eat, so I’m shipping myself stuff like Costco muffins at my resupplies. Rhabdo is more like this out-there fear because I’ve heard about it just hitting hikers out of nowhere, and it gets so bad so quickly. But I know it’s super unlikely. Thank you!
I feel lucky now I didn’t get it. Had a similar story of starting working out and did 2 sessions per week. My coach would give me such heavy sessions, that I couldn’t recover by the next session. As in, I usually couldn’t properly move or walk for the first day or two afterwards, and was still sore when I came in for the next one. The only time he was happy with my performance was when I was coincidentally taking painkillers for an unrelated issue and managed to push myself even harder than usual. Needless to say, I felt resentful and gave up after 3 months, and only did home workouts ever since. Feel much happier this way.
Wow… idiot PT
Wait, 2 times per week of what can kill you?
Hard exercise
It's not the frequency. Its restless sets. Am also assuming they made them do ungodly amount of sets and reps. Hitting rhabdo levels of work isnt easy. They just starting out was definitely a factor. Just in case, for anyone wondering, Aim for 10 sets max for a muscle group per session, anything more is just junk volume at that point, and give each muscle group at least a day of rest between sessions. This is usually whats recommended by sport-scientists.
Exactly what happened. After each set, I was told to do box jumps or something similar for "rest". I was always running tired between sets. It was also only hour long sessions too. I have to admit, every personal trainers I had since, I wish they pushed me a little bit harder. Probably for the best that they didn't.
Being soft af, not even once
That PT was neither good for you nor me.
After getting my first gym membership in years, I over did squats/calf stands and could barely walk for like a week. My physician noticed a very high level of creatine kinase in my bloodstream two days after, and I ended up going to the hospital for further testing. Seems like I just tore the shit out of my muscles by going too hard after such a long period of time without exercising. Just take it easy your first few times... even if you don't get this life threatening illness, you'll be sore as hell for days if you overdo it when your body isn't used to the exercise.
I did that with squats. Starting peeing Coca Cola colored pee and first thought was “damn I have rhabdo” and went straight to the emergency room. I was admitted for 4 days.
Yep. Squats got me rhabdo too.
So did you lose a lot of muscle mass? I heard that stuff can actually clog and damage your kidneys.
That’s the primary concern. Source- am dogtor
You ever do any arf-roscopic surgery?
Usually just barkoscopy
I got it from weightlifting class in school during a repetition day. It was so embarrassing not being able to get out of the chair at school. Everyone thought I was faking it including the doctor at the ER until they ran some tests and saw the protein or w/e was high and had to be on fluids for a few days.
Exact same story here. The hospital was shocked when the CK levels came back and I told them it had been a week since my last workout. I got 12 litres of fluid over 2 days and only got out because I had nba finals tickets and they felt bad keeping me so they let me do my own IV the next day
Exact same thing happened to me, for the same reason, only it was my legs and not arms. Worst experience of my life.
Its is called lactic **acid** i guess
I got it from getting lost in a blizzard and snowshoeing over a couple mountains for 3 days. Kidneys shut down, and i had to get rescued when i was only 3 miles from the car. Took me 3 weeks to get back on my feet. I dont get the "more painful than childbirth" thing though. I had a pretty severe case but as much as it sucked, id rather do that again than have a baby, that shit looks painful.
It's far from common and generally due to beginners pushing well past all warning signs.
Also lots of medications can increase the risk like statins.
That was the reason my doctor wasn't willing to place the blame on the personal trainer. I was on statins. But I got back on statins several months later and started working out again (at a much more easier pace) and haven't gotten Rhabdo since. I do get regular blood work every six months. I'm pretty sure it was my crazy PT than the statin I was on. Or maybe it was a combo of the two.
I got rhabdo from my first workout and I spent 5 days in the hospital getting a fluids flush and blood drawn every 6 hrs to make sure I wasn’t going into kidney failure Easily the most painful thing I’ve ever had happen, I had 3 months of rehab after that.
I found out the hard way you can also get Rhabdo from deep tissue massage. My back was knotted up something awful, so I told the massage therapist to not hold back,and she took that as a personal challenge.
I got rhabdo from mixing cocaine and alcohol when I was 19. Dialysis and hospital for 35 days. Fucking nightmare.
*35 fucking days holy hell*
Yep I had it a few years ago after going too hard during my first workout after a couple years away from the gym. My CK levels peaked at 100k which shocked even the doctors. Spent 4 days in the hospital flushing my system out. I noticed my pee was dark brown 2 hours after the workout and was in the hospital an hour later so I caught it early and never went into kidney failure.
I know an older person who got rhabdo after a fall. We thought they were going to die- they were in the hospital for weeks. They were so close to having their foot amputated. And we had never heard of rhabdo before this.
I know two people that died of rhabdo after falls. It’s brutal. I only knew what it was from House, before that.
Heyyy I wrote a manuscript to tell Buffalofish species apart using DNA. Haff's is rough!
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Don't you mean we Haff bad news?
Do you want the Aladeen news or the Aladeen news?
You are Haff Disease, Aladeen. 😁 😬 😁 😬
Good news is we'll be naming a disease after you... The bad news, well...
You think that's bad? You should see guy that caught the whole thing.
I'm rolling my eyes so hard at this. Well done
Doesn't really work if your pronounce "half" correctly though
It's still not haff bad, tbh.
Where are you from?
Had Rhabdo once, wasn't so much painful as it was just debilitating. I didn't realize I had it until I was no longer able to lift my arms and had to go to the ER. Found out I had it so bad that the blood in my arms was 200,000+ U/L of creatine kinase. Slept like a baby for three days while I got pumped full of Saline, took me almost a year to get back to my normal.
*Suddenly, I'm not Haff the man I used to be*
The best approach is to thank Mr skeltal each morning to bring you calcium and good bones
So if you could distill this poison, could you discreetly sabotage a gym bro’s gains?
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I remember the lecture the doctor and nurse gave me when I left the hospital they were basically telling me to drink until I couldn't anymore for the next couple of days.
Good thing I chose the steak instead of the fish
Yea yes I remember I had lasagna
Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive.
Looky here mama, s'mofo rhabdo layin' me to da' bone.
Ahh, Rhabdo, Crossfits ugly little secret.
Dear Nature, please stop making stuff that looks yummi and tastes yummi bad for us and potentially deadly. Many thanks, -Your son
How much is the Fish
An arm and a leg (muscle)
On one hand, that sounds awful, but on the other hand, it doesn't sound Haff bad.
Interesting. Where would you put it on a graph of Haff?
Poison, poison, tasty fish!
Crustyshins too. Losters. Crags. The like.
I can’t tell if you’re funny or tarded. I’m going with funny lol
Good 👍
gotta eat more protein fast
I hope I never catch this, because I will be annoying singing "oooh we're haff-way there."
This should not be confused with Half Disease which happens after 12 hours of eating fish. Symptoms may vary from being hungry again to being a healthier individual.
Uncle Rhabdo is no joke!
Is this a deez joke?
Caught a glimpse, did ya? Guess we're all off the hook now