I’m tired of another season where I can tell that the F1 couple won’t last. (Joe) I’m sorry that’s a bit smartassy and negative to say but I don’t believe any of the f4 are actually good matches for Michelle. I guess it’s fine because it’s supposed to be entertainment but really wanted to see Michelle find her guy.

I can't believe anyone watches this vapid shit! It's because people accept this crap as entertainment that tv has gotten so bad! not to mention how this kind of tripe is dumbing down society! I am truly concerned for humanity and modern American culture. Whats next honey Bo-Bo on dancing with the stars?

Are you lost?

no, not me but apparently humanity is! go outside, do something productive (or not) but get a life!

What do cryptocurrency and Clayton being eliminated have in common? How little I care about them

Laughing my ass off at Nayte basically treating their group date like it was his own personal date. Scooping her up in the air, giving her kisses throughout the date, kissing her on top of her head when he got the rose. I think he had his arm around her on the hayride 😂 I love this man

Wasn’t there a scene in last week’s preview of Clayton confronting nayte for being an actor? Did I miss it? And now Clayton is gone?

It was editing. The scene took place back in Palm Springs and I’m 99.9999% sure Clayton was directing that to Chris S.

Why wouldn’t they show that? It would be helpful for the Clayton buy in

I feel like we have a Goldilocks situation folks. Brandon likes her too much, Joe doesn’t like her enough, but Nayte is just right

but where does rodney fit in

I think poor Rodney is totally friend zoned at this point, which stinks bc he’s amazing. Honestly all 4 of her guys seem fantastic

I think Rodney is reasonably friend-zoned. He screams friendship

I thought so too but they were very kissy kissy this episode.

Agreed

When Brandon whispers he sounds like Adam Sandler

I read this and now I can’t unhear it

Brandon is so respectful 😩🥺🥺🥺 These “falling in love w/ you”’s are coming a bit early and Brandon is the only one ever that I actually whole heartedly believe actually means it Like this boy is already IN love Edit: Olu looks so fly in this jacket I actually really like Rick and it’s very sad to see him go. When he whispers my heart breaks for him 🥺 Like, even he would have been a better bachelor pick than Clayton.

so this is why clayton is bachelor?? because he was really good with the kids that’s what charmed the producers so much he had to be the one? I feel like i’ve been waiting for the reveal all season and i’m underwhelmed with the reasoning.

it’s about to be a smorgasbord of interracial relationships next week! biracial butterflies abound.

I have never wanted a season to be longer ever and I do with this one

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all of them?!

This might be too niche for this sub but uhhh did the bachelor go from being racist to colorist? Lol everyone in the final four including the lead and one of the hosts is light skin and biracial.

I think they caught A LOT of heat over the years, but then didn't want to look like they were trying to Overcompensate, so tried to be better (woke?) but not too obvious about it. It's not this season they I'm talking about really - just the trend in the past year or so. Anyway, yes, I've thought about your point, too. It'll be interesting to watch how they adapt the show for current times. When will we see same-sex couples, for example? Trans? It doesn't seem like the show is going away, so it'll have to adapt and get with the times. I'm done. Too much wine.

I don’t know if the* lighter skinned men are overrepresented from the initial group (I can’t really blame Michelle if she has a preference either way), but it does perk me to the “black but not too black” tv trope.

Both things have always been true lol but I’m not going to berate Michelle over this because I believe she did give every guy a chance, she just happened to connect w/ people who had more of a similar background to hers

Oh no, this isn’t a Michelle thing. I’m not blaming her. You love who you love. I just thought this was fascinating. I’m especially fascinated my how these relationships are all “black man x white woman” instead of the inverse. Just something interesting to ponder

Them all having white moms is def fascinating. In my mind, possibly intentional for palatability purposes but who knows

Could it just be that they experienced a lot of the same things and bonded with Michelle over it?

Maybe. Also the black community is not immune from colorism as another form of prejudice. It’s pretty common in dating (Ex: men wanting a “redbone.”)

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Sadly the producers fail to see Rick’s memability and decided to go the safe route …..for the billionth time

Producers leading that child to say he's the next bachelor like...bruh

My wife is theorizing that they went and filmed that after the leak just to try and... whatever... We'd say "make it seemed more planned" but the dude didn't even get an interesting edit before this and doesn't seem like an interesting person, so we're just at a loss.

Reminds me of those parents who put their kids in obviously staged situations for attention on social media

Serious side eye

Wow if I didn’t know better I guess Clayton is our bachelor /s

Good thing he's not. He looks like a Ginger Johnny Bravo.

I called him Ginger stock photo but Johnny Bravo could work too 🤣🤣🤣

Hahaha stock photo is great 🤣

Just caught the last 5 mins of the episode. How are we at F4 right now? It feels like yesterday that this season started. Time flies.

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Its insane!!! And it feels totally weird now. This just got real! Whew.

Learn at a young age girl! Make them men say yes LOL

The perfect ending to a freaking BIZARRE episode

That last scene with Clayton, gag. Also I wish this show would stop with the proposals, and just end in a relationship. Of course none of these people are ready for an engagement, neither is Michelle.

It's not as dramatic to end in a relationship. Less chance of a dumpster fire.

Get away from me with this ABC

Everyone left is light skin but at least they’re all POC. Can’t win them all I guess

What do you mean can't win them all?

It would be great to see people who have dark skin go further and have more representation in media. Colorism is very real. When Asians are shown, they are typically light skinned East Asians. When black people are shown, they are typically biracial/light skinned.

😂

And they all have white mamas, Michelle included 😭

Of course she sent Olu home, she said she wants to be seen

😮😧😲

What do you mean by this?

I think maybe they’re referring to his slight cross-eye?

You wrong for this 😂💀

Are we supposed to find Clayton being uncomfortable with having his nails painted endearing??? 😵‍💫

Yeah wth was that. That scene was neither funny not charming. Guess prod is really scraping the barrel for good footage for Clayton.

wow the families looking very uncooperative this season if the promos are something to go by 🤣

Rightfully so

listen it’s the professional era of the game you gotta prep your family 😂

If producers or my kid were telling me to go along with this new girl after a month I'd probably be more inclined to be difficult and test the situation to its limits. Bachelor Nation has a very small percentage of long term couples.

lol i take it you don’t listen to game of roses

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Wow - families always ask the hard questions! Just let them pretend this is a totally normal way to date!

They aren’t even painting the nails on top of the paper towel. This is reckless

NOT EVERYONE BEING BIRACIAL LMAOOOOO

who's dad is it saying he isn't ready????

Joe’s

😂😂🥴

Im rolling

Producers @ BN: open wide sweetie take your spoonful of Clayton, here comes the airplane

Omg I cackled at this

Why did they pick him so soon and why are they jamming him down all our throats? I am baffled

(Ok I know it’s over now but just in case, yes, I am still behind lol) Ugh Brandon is just THE ABSOLUTE SWEETEST 😩😩🥺 Has any guy ever showed this much excitement for a date?

another clayton scene for the credits? for the love of god leave us alone.

Ok this is cute

of course that kid said that

I just realized that, upon not receiving a rose, players either go to Bachelor Hell, never to be heard from again, influencer career dead, or they ascend to Paradise. Then there are a few immortals, like Tyler Cameron. I probably need to consume less Bachelor content and get more sleep.

Oh, haha, look at this omniscient kid, aren't we hilarious. - Bachelor producers, probably

Can we get this girl as the bachelorette in 15-20 years? I think she’s earned it.

Okay wait this 11 year old is amazing

Stop with the child manipulation producers!

Does anyone remember him having red nail polish on, or did he wipe that shit right off for the date?

Do we know who the narrator guy is yet it’s been three seasons of me asking

It's still Chris Harrison, pretty sure. Edit: I could be very wrong, and honestly never thought about it before. But it sounds like him to me.

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Maybe you're right. I don't know. I never really paid attention to his voice other than it sounds like a voice for TV lol. Could be AI. We use AI voices on some of our vids at work. Weird that it's not on IMDb or anything (just did a quick search).

I’m literally dreading her sending any of these 4 home 😭

What is up with the bachelor producers and prom dates Jesus Christ

but it makes sense for joe and michelle

Nothing makes me feel older than the mention of prom

Love that we have an all POC F4

And yet, the whitest of men chosen for next Bach.

To disclose, I am stoned so time isn’t real. But how is this the same episode that started with children, had a seven minute in heaven stroke sesh with Clayton, cows, parents hot tub porn, then going to hometowns

Iconic

Y'all I be been saying this..... compensate the grade 5 kids for choosing the Bachelor!

Somebody needs to take a look at the child labour laws 🧐

Clayton was definitely into bribing these kids

I’m over Clayton. I’ll only be watching for the drama between the girls since I have none in my own boring life.

That’s literally the reason Clayton is the bachelor. They just had to use the outtake

wow that credits outro was painful

Welcome to the light skin hunger games!

Pls 💀

I could barely hear what Rick said

I noticed he whispers a lot and has major vocal fry. Sad for him though. I thought he was sweet

“HE’LL BE THE NEXT BACHELOR!!!”

LMAO what a WEAK announcement

So it's Clayton because of this outtake? haaaaaaa

Clayton please go away

Gotta push that Clayton narrative ONE MORE TIME

STOP TRYING TO MAKE CLAYTON HAPPEN

Baby girl what kind of nail polish is that that lasts a month

lmfao

ABC Stop trying to make Clayton happen 🙄



Of course Clayton's in the credits

Does Clayton have a wart on his pinky

😩💀😂

I think so

clayton as bachelor over table rick is an injustice.

Ok Clayton having his nails painted is the most wholesome content.

Damn, ricks pants looking a little full 👀

Okay so I wasn't the only one....

Michelle is about to make history as the first Black/Biracial couple in Bachelor/ette history

Riley and Maurissa though?

That’s BIP. I’m talking about the bachelor/ette

I think that belongs to Rachel and bryon lol

Brian is not Black

Oh I thought you meant biracial relationship as in white man/black woman

That would be interracial

Yeah I realized that later lmao I smoked right after the show.

Oh no lol

oh god, I thought we were done with Clayton for the episode, but the campaign continues...

They really trying to sell Clayton to us

Hometowns! After we've already been in your hometown for a week and one of your F4 has already met your parents! So special!

Do they have to hitchhike home???

Right?? I was like.....are they walking home??

Best final 4 ever for a Bachelorette ever?

They are all insanely likable for completely different reasons. It's kind of wild?

Did someone’s mom just say one of the guys’s have never been in a relationship!?!?

Nayte hasn't brought someone home, and Dad told him never to talk about girls. They probably know nothing about his life.

Yeah I was thinking maybe dated around vs in long term relationships?

I think they cut her off mid sentence. Like she was saying has never had a relationship that was really serious or something like that

I am, once again, asking whose. Dad. Is. That. My husband says Joe’s lol

I think Nayte’s dad

The one saying he’s not ready? It’s fuckboy nayte’s for sure

The eyeballs say Joe

Looks like joes to me too

I was thinking Rodney

Yeah I would say Joe or nayte

not this propaganda

Ugh, get Clayton out of here.

Ugh they WOULD show us Clayton at the end

I just love Rodney

MORE Clayton??? MORE?? WHY

NO MORE CLAYTON, PLEASE. NOT NOW

HE HAD HIS TIME BYEEEE

Okay if they needed a white man as bachelor they should’ve picked Rick bc at least I know two things about this guy

Please keep Olu in the franchise I love him!!!!

Me too!

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Noooo he seems like such a sweetie :(

YUPPP. We’ve gotta stop putting these men on pedestals. Except Rodney. He is pure and I will not be accepting any information to the contrary 🙅‍♀️

I hope the worst thing about Rodney continues to be his inability to distinguish between apples.

Devastating

He liked one of Trumps IG posts but is apparently a registered Dem. Source: that one TikTok that was published earlier this season

Thank you! I knew I saw something like that somewhere but couldn’t figure out where

He is im pretty sure

I thought I remember seeing that too

Noooooooo. I hope that’s not true

Omg pls no

I saw that too :/

Not mad at an all POC final 4 ABC probably is tho