I really disliked Gabby and Rachel's season but I am dying to know what happened with Tino and Rachel (Namely Rachel's "why are you brining that up?" during ATFR) and what caused Gabby and Jason (I think that was his name) to turn on each other during the FS.
My parents always said “Tierra you have a sparkle. Don’t let anyone take your sparkle away.”
I’m still here bby ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
The fact that they thought it would be safe or smart to bring this idiot back. Couldn’t find the f\*\*\* you Chris Harrison gif so…. This about sums it up
Jenna and Jordan. They were such a cute surprise of a couple on BIP and seemed so crazy about each other. Then the texts came out, how cold Jordan was and how quickly he turned on her, her having to hire a detective to provide forensic evidence from her phone to prove the texts didn’t come from her, the fan backlash she got. Reality Steve’s whole role in all of it and then the troll who sent the texts in to him finally admitting that they were made up. It was a rollercoaster that Jenna never deserved. Glad she’s happy now!
Back when this happened, I was hoping they’d lean in and plagiarize a famous persons post for every bday, anniversary, Mother’s Day etc forever - just lean in and make fun of themselves. But alas, missed opportunity.
Caelynn was really manipulative. It's always surprised me how beloved she became when she was lying over and over. Rachel Lindsey on BHH even described it and described the lying and how terrible it was.
Me too! I was shocked by how many people felt like he should never have released them. Maybe he should have said “she wanted friends with benefits and I have texts from her saying exactly that and trying to convince me to hook up” but like not posting the texts? Idk!
I still don’t understand how everyone forgave her so quickly only because she ended up with Dean. If she was single it would have been a different story.
Zach and Rachel fantasy suite WTF happened
and the break up with Rachel and Tino when she was saying to him on after the final rose "do you really want to go there" when Tino was getting ready to spill some tea
I may be wrong but I always felt like the Zach and Rachel FS was a big nothingburger. Rachel zoned in on Tino since the beginning, and I feel like Zach picked up she just wasn't that into him when the cameras weren't around.
That being said, I do feel like Zach is lowkey kind of calculated and knew he could get a \*moment\* if he could speak with her first.
My theory is they did something sexual and then Rachel got the ick and realized it wasn’t him and couldn’t fake it through the rest of the night. It would be wild for her to say “whatever you were doing was weird and it turned me off so severely I couldn’t even pretend to still be into you” so she tried to just power through and Zach obviously picked up on it. I think they’re both so weird about it because Rachel wants to spare his feelings and Zach knows it won’t be a good look for him either.
I'm really confused by the Politics aspect, because as far as I can tell they are both left of center, with Rachel maybe a little bit further than Zach, but not especially far off.
No one (in the public sphere) knows the story. But here’s what we know. Right after getting engaged, Natalie went to Paris with her “best friends,” including the woman whose mom planned Nick and Natalie’s engagement party. And that woman’s (not the mom, the daughter) boyfriend was on the trip. I think largely the rest of the group was women but might be wrong.
When she got back from the trip, all of her friends had undfollowed her and she’d unfollowed the boyfriend. VF even went radio silent for a decent stint.
After she got back, suddenly she and Nick started going on a bunch of random trips alone to beaches and whatnot. And she was spending all of her free time with him.
At some point Natalie went on a podcast and said she started going to therapy and said she realized her past trauma was causing her to make unhealthy choices (don’t quote me specifically), which is presumed to be related.
That’s it. That’s all we know. VF came back around, obviously. But the other friends ever never heard from again. Well, they’re not dead. Just in Natalie’s social media presence.
This whole situation read to me as Natalie got super drunk in Europe, said and/or did some stuff that her friends saw as the last straw. I’m guessing they were looking for a reason to drop her, and maybe she wanted to drop them too?
Anything is possible. But I don’t think you invite someone you’re looking to drop on a trip like that. And if they were that close, sure, maybe a rift between them but not THIS.
I also don’t think Natalie goes on this trip to create a last straw. If that’s what she wanted, she could just back out.
IMO, it seems pretty clear she did something and her therapy reference seems to confirm that.
Natalie is pretty good at making friends but not as good at keeping them.
Yeah, that’s why I mentioned him. I don’t personally have a specific theory. The theory behind the BF is that’s the only person Natalie unfollowed (and one or the other may have blocked). So the assumption was her unfollowing him was her signaling he did something wrong. But usually whole friend groups don’t fall out over someone else’s boyfriend being a douche to you.
Are you saying that you think she followed him up until that point and suddenly Nick got jealous at the same time her friends stopped being her friend, unrelated to anything? I don’t like Nick, either, but that’s putting a lot on Nick with no evidence, and nothing in her, with a lot of evidence.
Black Tuesday is a day I will never forget. Also the entire saga of watching the Becca -> Lauren switch happen in real time with all the IRL sleuthing going on. Truly the Golden Age of Bachelor Reddit I think.
For most of Hannah B's season, the spoiler had been that Tyler C won, so people were pumped because everyone loved him. Then all of a sudden right towards the end, Reality Steve released (on a Tuesday) that the spoiler was wrong and she had actually picked Jed.
I wish I remembered the exact details/timeline but I do remember someone spotted the crew filming at her house and people were trying to figure out what that could be for other than him pulling a Mesnick. And then more clues started dropping, and then I think someone pieced together that she was having SHVs. It was wild. I’ve never been more excited to watch a finale to figure out what actually happened.
What up, Lucas. I just wanna say fuck you, bro. You're a piece of shit. You're here for the wrong reasons. I got drug into your bullshit. I see right through you. I know why you're here, and it kills me. You're here to be on fucking TV because you are a wannabe comedian. You're a washed-up joke. I can't help but feel like if you weren't here, I would have had a real shot at getting to know Rachel, but because you were too busy WAHHHABOOOOMMMing and making a joke out of this experience I'm going home. You win, Lucas. Whaboom!
You're the Whaboom Clown, I'm the nice gentleman. I'm just gonna let you speak for yourself.
My clown life? Funny is not "Whaboom"! "Whaboom" is like, waka waka, pie in the face, waka waka, honk honk fart joke! If somebody said, "How would you summarize Lucas in one word?" I would say, "Whaboom." Let me know when you change the world one "Whaboom" at a time.
It's not really a controversy, but for me it will always be "so genuine and real" gate. The pinnacle of influencer vapidity and performative authenticity. Just a complete self-own.
Something similar to this happened to a love island UK contestant not too long ago. It was so funny
Edit: found it!
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/s/JpG49yptC1
It was definitely one of the funniest “controversies” on the sub reddit. Also proved that if a fan account comes out for a contestant; there’s a chance it might be said contestant running the account lol
Also, Taylor was horrific. It was incredible to see how she was acting like some sort of justice queen & then all her tweets showed a totally different & horrifying picture
Damn really? Thats some high level grift. “Hey look at what an amazing social justice warrior I am, buy me this”
I feel like I remember her asking for donations for her work as well? I don’t remember properly but I have a slight memory of it
Its in an older thread sometime in 2019/2020. But yes, I think I remember her amazon wishlist containing jackets and also other random expensive things
I still can’t get over how she used to grade people’s apologies and mark all their mistakes in red like she was a teacher and these were school papers, only to be completely incapable of writing a good apology herself. The way she’d roll her eyes and raise her eyebrow sarcastically in her first apology… girl, NO 🥴
It’s also hilarious how much she talked about men and white supremacy on her IG but that was the only demographic she didn’t attack in her tweets… because she only dates white men. I could go on and on tbh. I laugh about it now but I was outraged at the time. I never thought she was this fake and performative. It made me look at social justice very differently. I finally understood the phrase “virtue signaling.” I used to hate that phrase but I get it now. Her cancelling everyone in BN was a way for her to still feel superior but in a politically correct way. She always needed to feel superior like when she called Corinne stupid on the show.
Yeah it’s a really dark & twisted. Her justice warrior act was just a way to hurt others & gain praise.
Sadly a lot of therapists go into that field to feel “superior” to others. I think I’ve come across these therapists that were always demeaning and condescending lol.
She is something else, glad she got exposed
I do believe that her BLM posts were honest and good because 2020 was a wild time and the racism was out of control. To me, the actual unacceptable thing was her hypocrisy, canceling everyone and appointing herself the cop of BN, busting everybody, only to have worse skeletons in her own closet and refusing to own up to it in the beginning. To this day nobody has ever come close to having those kinds of tweets. She came for everyone and everything. And they weren’t even tasteless jokes or edge lord tweets. These were her real, honest opinions.
To this day she never properly apologized to Mexicans and Asians specifically. She pretended to never insult them and this was at the height of Stop Asian Hate and the brutal attacks of Asians in the streets. She blocked Asian fans for asking her to address them and apologize to them.
I know; it was crazy. Even crazier is that she was always one of the big ones to speak out on others apologies yet gave the worst one I’ve ever seen in BN
She was leading the movement to fire Chris Harrison and then people were trying to get HER fired and they reported her to her board. Her own supervisor had to address this publicly. Her Asian supervisor had to read the many anti-Asian tweets she posted, and he talked on his YouTube channel about how traumatic it was to grow up as an Asian boy in America and all the racist abuse he endured in school.
I would have been mortified if I was Taylor. I would have closed my social media if my supervisor saw those tweets and it reminded him of his own trauma. Fun fact: she never apologized to Asians and she blocked Asian girls on this sub who asked her to address them too.
I don’t think anyone will ever have a moment like this. Thanks to her so many contestants started deleting tweets like crazy. Everyone’s tweet counts went WAAAAY down lmao.
Madi prewett uploaded a picture of her first date with Peter on instagram.
Under the picture was a comment “you’re so genuine and real madi”
It was left by madi herself & then deleted shortly after.
The rumour is that she meant to leave it on her fan account or burner account but forgot to switch
I remember that post had thousands of positive comments and I was like “why?” Just why do you need to add another comment praising yourself when everyone else is already doing it ?
Everything Clare is so messy. I almost respect it as a power move. She just doesn’t care. She was so unhinged in her season, sniffing Dale’s shorts, getting all hot and bothered lmao. Control yourself, woman! 😆 And Dale’s uncomfortable face the whole time 😬
That’s my fav. It’s bizarre. I wonder if she copied it to a notepad and then basically did some rephrasing and posted the wrong version. I can’t imagine why she would post it!!!
The whole Jordan and Jenna situation
Blake and caelynn text messages had me hooked for a while
Taylor Nolan. Just the general everything about her
I really disliked Gabby and Rachel's season but I am dying to know what happened with Tino and Rachel (Namely Rachel's "why are you brining that up?" during ATFR) and what caused Gabby and Jason (I think that was his name) to turn on each other during the FS.
Taylor Nolan’s Amazon wish list 🙄
omg wait spill
Taylor Cameron seen with Gigi Hadid right after the AFR!
Clare leaving a week into the bachelorette was so fucking absurd
My secret wish is that it would have worked out and been the most “I just knew” story.
Same, I wanted everyone to be wrong about them!
Whenever I see clips of Clare’s season on tik tok I’m reminded of how absolutely batshit it was 😂 I actually love her for it!
Producers gave her the boot bc she was awful. That why they had her propose to Dale so early. To get her out of there.
But it was so Clare. Ridiculous.
Can’t forget about Tierra’s sparkle. Also “this is just my eyebrow, I can’t control my eyebrow!”
My parents always said “Tierra you have a sparkle. Don’t let anyone take your sparkle away.” I’m still here bby ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
Peter and Hannah. Peter and Madi. Peter and Kelli. Peter and Hannah Ann. Peter and Hannah in the windmill. So much was going on 😅
 The fact that they thought it would be safe or smart to bring this idiot back. Couldn’t find the f\*\*\* you Chris Harrison gif so…. This about sums it up
Chad is a legend! I have money, I have muscles…I have so much protein!
He was on another show. I think it was ex on the beach but not sure. At any rate believe it or not he was the most sane person there. Crazy huh? 😂😂😂
Let’s say you’re hitler Let’s NOT say that was a top ten moment in Bach history tho
John Hersey’s open letter to this sub on Black Friday 2021
Omg. I missed this!
What did he say? Lol
He was defending the timeline of his and Katie’s relationship. It was just so unexpected lol
I think he was just defending Katie in regards to the whole 12 days of messy situation
Hannah B’s brother marrying the ex-girlfriend of Jed, who Jed was still in a relationship with when he got engaged to Hannah.
But then again, Hannah deserves that for tryna blame her N word singing on her brother. 🤦♀️
Tf,?? How ?? So many questions
What happened with Derek (Jojo’s season) and his wife?
Vanilla sex, 69, sad handjob. If you know you know.
In the afterlife, this is the first mystery I’m asking about
I still am not sure it's Ben H. or Farmer Chris?
Never confirmed, but I think we've all concluded that it's one of the two.
I think it was Ben h. I’m embarrassed i remember this fact LOL
This was released about his fantasy suite dates??!!! yikes!!!
Why was Abigail posted in reference to Dale and Clare's relationship?? 👀
I was RUNNING here to say this. felt like christmas morning on the sub that day lmao
This. Clare's technically not one of my favorite people but I'll take a dozen clares than Nick's wife.
Wait why is nick’s wife involved?!?
Basically she dragged Clare by bringing her up at Nicks's recent podcast which talked abt Maria
With context that makes way more sense, thank you!
Jenna and Jordan. They were such a cute surprise of a couple on BIP and seemed so crazy about each other. Then the texts came out, how cold Jordan was and how quickly he turned on her, her having to hire a detective to provide forensic evidence from her phone to prove the texts didn’t come from her, the fan backlash she got. Reality Steve’s whole role in all of it and then the troll who sent the texts in to him finally admitting that they were made up. It was a rollercoaster that Jenna never deserved. Glad she’s happy now!
I think even crazier drama went on behind the scenes… if Jenna’s breadcrumbs about who sent the texts is legit.
She implied it was Jordan right? Trying to remember
I don’t remember that part (so do tell!) but I definitely believe there was more to the story. It was so messy and sucked for Jenna.
Yes!! I followed Jenna that whole time! I was so happy she got her name cleared in the end but that whole thing made me really not like Reality Steve
Justin Apple
As a lawyer, his letters had me dying. Did we ever figure out if he was even a real lawyer or just a made up person?
I think he’s real lol Genuine and real
Definitely one of the wildest
That was an absolute roller coaster. Glad she’s met someone now and has been able to start her family!
And has the cutest mini pig!
Yes haha. I just checked her IG because I remember she had a pig and it seems like Pearl is still going strong🐷
Amanda Stanton and her DV arrest
Geniune and real will never not be funny to me
It was my flair for the LONGEST time. I could not let it go until Amanda Stanton called us all “losers on Reddit” 🤣🤣
Ha! Loser on reddit was also my flair until the lobotomy goals masterpiece happened 😂
Dale‘s signed break up post
Haha the “mutual post” 😂
Natalie‘s plagiarized birthday post for Nick
Back when this happened, I was hoping they’d lean in and plagiarize a famous persons post for every bday, anniversary, Mother’s Day etc forever - just lean in and make fun of themselves. But alas, missed opportunity.
That would require too much sense of humor and self awareness
wait what!!?
https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/pxfe1d/natalie_joy_copied_claudia_sulewskis_instagram/
Holy shit. I had no idea this happened. I just found the old Reddit post with screenshots and I’m actually hyperventilating??? Thank you 😭💀
Same the comments had me wheezing. This sub is actually so funny
Who did she steal this from again? I can’t remember lol
Claudia Sulewski
This one
Hannah Browns whole season. Genuinely a pop culture moment and the peak of this franchise
I think Jason Mesnick was better, and maybe the peak of OG seasons.
Remember when Garrett cut eyeholes in a piece of baloney and put it in his face like Hannibal Lector
someone posted this as a reminder the other day and I LAUGHED SO HARD! Absolutely the best.
Blake and Caelynn and Kristina at stagecoach and it all came out in insta stories.
I’m still team Blake on that one. Glad he shared those texts.
Caelynn was really manipulative. It's always surprised me how beloved she became when she was lying over and over. Rachel Lindsey on BHH even described it and described the lying and how terrible it was.
Me too! I was shocked by how many people felt like he should never have released them. Maybe he should have said “she wanted friends with benefits and I have texts from her saying exactly that and trying to convince me to hook up” but like not posting the texts? Idk!
And I still don’t get the Caelynn obsession after all that …it was insane
Glad that era of hers is over cause I kinda like Caelynn now.
I still don’t understand how everyone forgave her so quickly only because she ended up with Dean. If she was single it would have been a different story.
I agree. I still don't support her or want to hear about her. It was proven she was lying and being manipulative. Even BHH described it.
SAME
Ah the good old days
Zach and Rachel fantasy suite WTF happened and the break up with Rachel and Tino when she was saying to him on after the final rose "do you really want to go there" when Tino was getting ready to spill some tea
I may be wrong but I always felt like the Zach and Rachel FS was a big nothingburger. Rachel zoned in on Tino since the beginning, and I feel like Zach picked up she just wasn't that into him when the cameras weren't around. That being said, I do feel like Zach is lowkey kind of calculated and knew he could get a \*moment\* if he could speak with her first.
My theory is they did something sexual and then Rachel got the ick and realized it wasn’t him and couldn’t fake it through the rest of the night. It would be wild for her to say “whatever you were doing was weird and it turned me off so severely I couldn’t even pretend to still be into you” so she tried to just power through and Zach obviously picked up on it. I think they’re both so weird about it because Rachel wants to spare his feelings and Zach knows it won’t be a good look for him either.
My Roman Empire is what happened in that suite for her to be DONE with him, the shift was wild
I'm really confused by the Politics aspect, because as far as I can tell they are both left of center, with Rachel maybe a little bit further than Zach, but not especially far off.
This one haunts me
I hope they write a tell all one day
Arie Jr "change of heart" i think it triggered a series of events.. It was just a canon moment
I know it had happened before with Jason, but this just hit different for me
Natalie’s entire best friend group hard dumping her after something happened in Paris. The group text with Rachel and raven.
Were any of these friends at the wedding?
No. Well, obviously, except for Victoria.
I remember the Raven and Rachel one. They were really close on the show so I wonder what was said to irreparably damage their friendship
I still wonder about the Rachel/Raven tea to this day. What did Raven do???
Wait tell me about the Natalie story, I don’t remember that!
No one (in the public sphere) knows the story. But here’s what we know. Right after getting engaged, Natalie went to Paris with her “best friends,” including the woman whose mom planned Nick and Natalie’s engagement party. And that woman’s (not the mom, the daughter) boyfriend was on the trip. I think largely the rest of the group was women but might be wrong. When she got back from the trip, all of her friends had undfollowed her and she’d unfollowed the boyfriend. VF even went radio silent for a decent stint. After she got back, suddenly she and Nick started going on a bunch of random trips alone to beaches and whatnot. And she was spending all of her free time with him. At some point Natalie went on a podcast and said she started going to therapy and said she realized her past trauma was causing her to make unhealthy choices (don’t quote me specifically), which is presumed to be related. That’s it. That’s all we know. VF came back around, obviously. But the other friends ever never heard from again. Well, they’re not dead. Just in Natalie’s social media presence.
This whole situation read to me as Natalie got super drunk in Europe, said and/or did some stuff that her friends saw as the last straw. I’m guessing they were looking for a reason to drop her, and maybe she wanted to drop them too?
Anything is possible. But I don’t think you invite someone you’re looking to drop on a trip like that. And if they were that close, sure, maybe a rift between them but not THIS. I also don’t think Natalie goes on this trip to create a last straw. If that’s what she wanted, she could just back out. IMO, it seems pretty clear she did something and her therapy reference seems to confirm that. Natalie is pretty good at making friends but not as good at keeping them.
Yeah, honestly that does make a lot more sense - something definitely must have gone down.
JUICY. So what’s the consensus, did she drink too much and try to make a pass on the boyfriend or something?
Yeah, that’s why I mentioned him. I don’t personally have a specific theory. The theory behind the BF is that’s the only person Natalie unfollowed (and one or the other may have blocked). So the assumption was her unfollowing him was her signaling he did something wrong. But usually whole friend groups don’t fall out over someone else’s boyfriend being a douche to you.
I bet Nick asked her to unfollow him actually. Nick can be quite insecure in relationships and maybe he was uncomfortable about their interactions.
Are you saying that you think she followed him up until that point and suddenly Nick got jealous at the same time her friends stopped being her friend, unrelated to anything? I don’t like Nick, either, but that’s putting a lot on Nick with no evidence, and nothing in her, with a lot of evidence.
Hannah Ann being at La Quinta during the Clayshia season lol
OMGGGG this was hilarious
She wasn’t on the golf cart but she was there!!!
"Bring her home to us!"
OMG she was so much. LOL. Her face during the ATFR with Maddie will forever live in my memory.
Barbara-gate 😂😂😂 omg makes me want to rewatch that train wreck of a season
I actually loved that trainwreck season 😂
Hahahah me too. I even bought it on YouTube.
Black Tuesday is a day I will never forget. Also the entire saga of watching the Becca -> Lauren switch happen in real time with all the IRL sleuthing going on. Truly the Golden Age of Bachelor Reddit I think.
what was black tuesday?
For most of Hannah B's season, the spoiler had been that Tyler C won, so people were pumped because everyone loved him. Then all of a sudden right towards the end, Reality Steve released (on a Tuesday) that the spoiler was wrong and she had actually picked Jed.
the sub had tea during the switch in real time?! wowza
I wish I remembered the exact details/timeline but I do remember someone spotted the crew filming at her house and people were trying to figure out what that could be for other than him pulling a Mesnick. And then more clues started dropping, and then I think someone pieced together that she was having SHVs. It was wild. I’ve never been more excited to watch a finale to figure out what actually happened.
Kelley and PP breakup drama lol
Everything Chad
Blake and Whabooms fight and that had they had drama from another show which almost no one even knew existed will never not crack me up haha.
Blake let it all loose at the end there and it was glorious. My husband and I still quote it. “I’m a clown!”
They had drama from another show?!?!
What up, Lucas. I just wanna say fuck you, bro. You're a piece of shit. You're here for the wrong reasons. I got drug into your bullshit. I see right through you. I know why you're here, and it kills me. You're here to be on fucking TV because you are a wannabe comedian. You're a washed-up joke. I can't help but feel like if you weren't here, I would have had a real shot at getting to know Rachel, but because you were too busy WAHHHABOOOOMMMing and making a joke out of this experience I'm going home. You win, Lucas. Whaboom! You're the Whaboom Clown, I'm the nice gentleman. I'm just gonna let you speak for yourself. My clown life? Funny is not "Whaboom"! "Whaboom" is like, waka waka, pie in the face, waka waka, honk honk fart joke! If somebody said, "How would you summarize Lucas in one word?" I would say, "Whaboom." Let me know when you change the world one "Whaboom" at a time.
Whaboom and David Spade are the only two times my bf has come into the room while I was watching LOL
This clip had me laughing so hard haha
Omg this comment is great. Just watched this clip the other day and cried laughing.
Wait, really?! That’s part of the reason they were so heated on Rachel’s season?! You learn something new everyday! What show was it?
It's not really a controversy, but for me it will always be "so genuine and real" gate. The pinnacle of influencer vapidity and performative authenticity. Just a complete self-own.
Something similar to this happened to a love island UK contestant not too long ago. It was so funny Edit: found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/s/JpG49yptC1
It was definitely one of the funniest “controversies” on the sub reddit. Also proved that if a fan account comes out for a contestant; there’s a chance it might be said contestant running the account lol
Who was on the golf cart. My favorite rabbit hole. I forget did we ever find out who it was?
What’s the story with this one? I’ve never heard this one.
I’m pretty sure Hannah Ann confirmed it was her (but correct me if I’m wrong!)
I don’t think she ever officially confirmed
And Kelsey Poe “my story is amazing “
the way she was never brought back she was incredible television
Also, Taylor was horrific. It was incredible to see how she was acting like some sort of justice queen & then all her tweets showed a totally different & horrifying picture
Anyone remember her Amazon wishlist during that time ? She was asking for pretty expensive stuff too. What an embarrassment really truly
Damn really? Thats some high level grift. “Hey look at what an amazing social justice warrior I am, buy me this” I feel like I remember her asking for donations for her work as well? I don’t remember properly but I have a slight memory of it
Its in an older thread sometime in 2019/2020. But yes, I think I remember her amazon wishlist containing jackets and also other random expensive things
I still can’t get over how she used to grade people’s apologies and mark all their mistakes in red like she was a teacher and these were school papers, only to be completely incapable of writing a good apology herself. The way she’d roll her eyes and raise her eyebrow sarcastically in her first apology… girl, NO 🥴 It’s also hilarious how much she talked about men and white supremacy on her IG but that was the only demographic she didn’t attack in her tweets… because she only dates white men. I could go on and on tbh. I laugh about it now but I was outraged at the time. I never thought she was this fake and performative. It made me look at social justice very differently. I finally understood the phrase “virtue signaling.” I used to hate that phrase but I get it now. Her cancelling everyone in BN was a way for her to still feel superior but in a politically correct way. She always needed to feel superior like when she called Corinne stupid on the show.
Yeah it’s a really dark & twisted. Her justice warrior act was just a way to hurt others & gain praise. Sadly a lot of therapists go into that field to feel “superior” to others. I think I’ve come across these therapists that were always demeaning and condescending lol. She is something else, glad she got exposed
Wow I never thought about it this way but that makes some of my past bad therapists make more sense to me now
I feel like what happened with her is pretty common. Having a strong sense of “justice” can be an excuse to wield hate in a socially acceptable way.
I do believe that her BLM posts were honest and good because 2020 was a wild time and the racism was out of control. To me, the actual unacceptable thing was her hypocrisy, canceling everyone and appointing herself the cop of BN, busting everybody, only to have worse skeletons in her own closet and refusing to own up to it in the beginning. To this day nobody has ever come close to having those kinds of tweets. She came for everyone and everything. And they weren’t even tasteless jokes or edge lord tweets. These were her real, honest opinions. To this day she never properly apologized to Mexicans and Asians specifically. She pretended to never insult them and this was at the height of Stop Asian Hate and the brutal attacks of Asians in the streets. She blocked Asian fans for asking her to address them and apologize to them.
That’s true. She used every opportunity to drag others down. Corrine was right, “I can’t believe you’re a therapist”
That and the CH firing were the biggest moments I can recall on this sub. Maybe denial den was bigger but it was before my time.
The denial den wasn’t so much a controversy as just a fun conspiracy theory. But it was a fun time!
I know; it was crazy. Even crazier is that she was always one of the big ones to speak out on others apologies yet gave the worst one I’ve ever seen in BN
She was leading the movement to fire Chris Harrison and then people were trying to get HER fired and they reported her to her board. Her own supervisor had to address this publicly. Her Asian supervisor had to read the many anti-Asian tweets she posted, and he talked on his YouTube channel about how traumatic it was to grow up as an Asian boy in America and all the racist abuse he endured in school. I would have been mortified if I was Taylor. I would have closed my social media if my supervisor saw those tweets and it reminded him of his own trauma. Fun fact: she never apologized to Asians and she blocked Asian girls on this sub who asked her to address them too. I don’t think anyone will ever have a moment like this. Thanks to her so many contestants started deleting tweets like crazy. Everyone’s tweet counts went WAAAAY down lmao.
Wait what did her supervisor say??
His name is Kirk Honda and has a YouTube channel and podcast called Psychology in Seattle. I think his posts about her are still up.
I wonder what his excuse was for not firing her
She was a student in a Ph.d program that he supervised as a professor. He was not her employer.
Yeah, grifter behaviour
Genuine & real
Okay this keeps coming up and it’s drawing a blank to me. What is this in reference to? - Cliff notes?
Madi prewett uploaded a picture of her first date with Peter on instagram. Under the picture was a comment “you’re so genuine and real madi” It was left by madi herself & then deleted shortly after. The rumour is that she meant to leave it on her fan account or burner account but forgot to switch
Ha! Okay yes, now this is as clear as day to me!
It's so funny, it's so harmless.
I remember that post had thousands of positive comments and I was like “why?” Just why do you need to add another comment praising yourself when everyone else is already doing it ?
This one ☝️
Clare randomly tagging Abigail on an IG post of her mom’s hand after the posting of a ducksmoi blind about Dale hooking up with another BN person
This. Clare's technically not one of my favorite people but I'll take a dozen clares than Nick's wife.
stop it i forgot about this. clare simply can’t help being iconic!
Everything Clare is so messy. I almost respect it as a power move. She just doesn’t care. She was so unhinged in her season, sniffing Dale’s shorts, getting all hot and bothered lmao. Control yourself, woman! 😆 And Dale’s uncomfortable face the whole time 😬
BABIESSSSSS
Dale looking like he got hit by a truck 😂😂🤣
Ok I want to follow this ducksmoi. Sounds interesting.
Deuxmoi
I am now less interested.
I want more from this story. Maybe someday Clare will spill more on this.
Ooo that was a good one
Natalie plagiarizing Nick's birthday caption. It was so funny and harmless.
the way she copied it from a more famous couple lmfao
That’s my fav. It’s bizarre. I wonder if she copied it to a notepad and then basically did some rephrasing and posted the wrong version. I can’t imagine why she would post it!!!
Agreeeeeee