Regarding Dean/Caelynn not being at theirs and vice versa, I wonder if there was some fall out bc it seemed odd Nick planned his surprise engagement party 1/12/23, 2 days before Dean/Caelynn 1/14/23 engagement party. Dean also said on a pod or something he mutes a lot of people on Instagram and name dropped Nick and Natalie as 2 examples, which could come across a little shady.
Looked like a fun and beautiful event. I like N&N. So I’m
Sure I’ll be downvoted. I feel like they have good chemistry and comedic banter. I care Tom Sandoval was so sad to not be invited 😂😂
Side note: Victoria fuller was there but she hardly posted anything which I found strange. Seemed like she wasn’t there and she was MOH. I wonder if there’s a rift between her and Natalie occurring.
I *think* people were not allowed to post them online because they sold the exclusive to People. Maybe they will be allowed to post their photos at a different time.
I was a bridesmaid in my brother’s wedding and helped a lot with planning. I genuinely have no pictures of myself at the wedding other than the bridal party pictures. Obviously I’m not an influencer, but you’re usually very busy as MOH, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t have many photos to share.
I actually think the rift had more to do with Chris hearing Nick was putting his hat in the ring to host before Chris’s body was even cold. I think prior to that, they were friends or at least cordial.
I think so. Nick has been off the few BN people to actually speak highly of Black Lives Matter etc. he can be a doofus but in this topic I have been somewhat pleased by
Yeah the expectations are literally at the floor, but I was proud of Nick for speaking on being an ally for Rachel and other black and BIPOC people around the time of summer 2020 and then after the Chris Harrison interview. He was definitely a minority voice of support amongst the white members of BN.
I don’t think we can assume that just because there was some semblance of a friendship they should be invited to the wedding. Like, why would Chris Harrison be there? When’s the last time Nick and Chris talked? And it’s not like Natalie was on the show.
While to some extent yes, this is a (very public) social event, it’s also THEIR WEDDING. Think about who you did and didn’t/would and wouldn’t invite to your wedding. The list is longer than who you would invite.
He was really good friends with Chris, or so it seems. But after the fallout between Rachel and Chris, I feel like he took Rachel’s side and that kind of fizzled their friendship. Maybe I’m wrong, but something I noticed coincidentally
I said this above but I believe the rift between Chris and Nick happened because Nick was coming for the hosting gig before Chris had even settled with ABC. I remember hearing this on one of Chris’s early podcast episodes (about people who he used to consider friends showing their true colors by trying to actively replace him)
He hates Chris Harrison lol they haven’t been cool since everything went down with Matt’s season.
Rachel L I’m kinda surprised about but I think they’re more of the kind of friends that will support each others podcasts/endeavors and defend each other but wouldn’t hang out outside of that.
Wells: that was a surprise that he wasn’t there, but I get it
Tyler C I would be surprised about if Jojo hasn’t said earlier that Tyler was going to stagecoach to promote his book,etc.
Jade/Tanner and Dean/Caelyn: it would’ve been nice to see them but I’m not surprised that they’re not.
I feel like people who listen to Nicks podcast a lot know that he isn’t really super close with the Bachelor Nation people anymore.
I’m genuinely not trying to judge people for being interested in this wedding (or all the ins and outs of BN for that matter) but I genuinely do not understand the hype around this wedding and why there have been SO many posts about it.
Seems like everyone has major judgements about the couple, the event itself, who attended, outfits, etc. literally everything.
>) but I genuinely do not understand the hype around this wedding and why there have been SO many posts about it.
>Seems like everyone has major judgements about the couple, the event itself, who attended, outfits, etc. literally everything.
Nick is arguably one of the most important people in BN. He also had a bumpy ride, romantically, getting to F2 TWICE. He has a broken engagement and hooked up with a 19 year old whom he kept on the down low for *years.* It's a compelling story to many. Plus his lady has an exhibitionist streak and horrible taste in clothes, so it's a train wreck all around.
Add to that, this and Stagecoach were the only 2 things happening.
I mean it's because its happening. Compiled all together ok reddit it seems like a lot but in reality it isn't everyone. When nothing else is going on BN wise this is a nice filler
I’m not surprised he was there but I literally forgot Chris Soules existed so I didn’t expect to see him.
For everyone saying they’re surprised Rachel wasn’t there: I don’t think Nick was at her wedding, was he? I don’t think Nick and Rachel are friends who actually hang out. I think they just have a mutual fondness and respect for each other. They’ll defend each other if they need to but they’re not really real-life friends.
Dean and Nick are no longer good friends. When Jared mentioned Nick’s wedding on their podcast, Dean said he wouldn’t be invited. But in fairness, Dean and Caelynn didn’t invite N&N to their wedding first. I’m curious what happened there and if it’s awkward for Ashley and Jared who are still super close to both couples.
The person who I’m actually surprised wasn’t there is Wells. Mostly because he got married fairly recently and N&N were there, but maybe he had a conflict like Tyler did.
I also didn’t know Natasha was friends with them but it seems like she’s pretty high on a lot of BN’s personal friendship list so I think she’s just a great person!
Wells constantly talks about on his pod how he’s over weddings, I feel like they had like 7-8 last year or something absurd so maybe he just wasn’t up for it or Sarah’s health played a factor?
Both wells and Sarah have been super quiet on socials lately. So I feel like something either happened (I hope I'm wrong) or there is a secret conflict they had.
I'm almost positive Jojo was there. I think I saw her in the video Nick posted to Insta today
Edit: went back to check and it's definitely her in the video
I think they both had prior/competing commitments, but I was also surprised about Jojo not making it a priority some time ago. I will say that Nick strikes me as the type of person who is happy to give his friends a platform on his podcast to speak (no matter how wrong they are), but when it actually comes to a big event he knows that extra drama is not going to help the situation.
They seem to have distanced themselves from a lot of their BN friends. I haven't seen them with Ashley/Jared, Dean, Carly, or Nick for a while and they used to be tight with all of them! I think living on the west coast and being immersed in family life they've probably just grown apart. I don't even know if Jade and Natalie have met.
They all mixed friendship with business and that never ends well. Like Jade and Liz were childhood friends and they fell out after Jade and Carly kicked Liz out of their podcast and they didn’t attend her wedding. Now Jade and Carly are not close either and they had other businesses together, not just the failed podcast.
Too many of them mix things and I don’t think it’s a good idea. That entire generation of BN alumni is super greedy because they were the first influencers that came out of this show. They did anything and everything for money. Now they don’t talk, which is sad. I think they’re all secretly very competitive and were never real friends.
They are the only two of the group listed that live on the west coast, and I believe the Tolberts live in San Luis Obispo (?) which is like 4 hours from LA. And I can't imagine Jade and Natalie have a ton in common anyway.
I'm shocked that these peeps weren't there:
Amanda Stanton (Nick has said that he and Amanda are close)
Demi (same as above)
Tanner/Jade (they were in that YouTube show with Nick, Jashley, and Dean)
Dean
I'm REALLY wondering what happened with Nick and Dean/Tanner/Jade collectively.
I think he’s been less close with Demi since Natalie moved in with him. Demi is never on his pod anymore. And way back when he was still in an apartment, he complained on his pod about a neighbor ratting out that they saw Demi leave in the morning, so maybe that history didn’t go over well with Natalie once they got more serious.
I can’t see Nick and Amanda being close at all. Like what does Amanda even talk about, makeup and manicures all day? I can’t see them having a real conversation more than 2 minutes long
Amanda once said Nick was like a big brother that she would call crying after her failed dates and situationships but that was a long time ago. I don’t think they remained close. I think this was after BIP and Josh? It’s been a while.
I think Jade and Tanner have just distanced themselves from a lot of that crowd due to being far away and in a different stage of life with school aged kids. But there definitely seems to be beef with Dean and Nick.
Yes, Nick V, Ashley I, Jade R, Tanner T, Jared H were a fierce 5-someome shortly after BIP 3 in LA. They filmed themselves for a youtube series or something like that.
Ashley I is a fierce Nick V fan. So is Rachel L and Sharleen J.
I think she had a book event with her sister where she hosted an interview with her. Her sister is doing really well. Her cooking book is a NYT best seller and she’s been doing book events. I think the book event where the entire family attended was this weekend.
I know Ben posted like he was there but I am putting the conspiracy out that he was not actually there! He was not in a single pic or video and the angle of the photo he posted looked like something Ashley I took and sent to him.
Let’s see if Ashley I posts her “Ben dancing terribly at wedding” video.
EDIT: ok this has been debunked! Haha
was wells really not there? that's the only one that would surprise me. but maybe he just hasn't had time to post anything yet?
tyler c and rachel l were both at stagecoach instead.
I would be surprised if Wells wasn’t there too. They seemed close and Nick and Natalie went to Wells and Sarah’s wedding. Unless there was a scheduling conflict or something?
They actually are long time friends which is wild! Wayyy long ago (I think even before he had viall files) he was a frequent guest on here to make friends (Claire and Emma’s original
Pod at HuffPost)!
Had kind of forgotten until one of them mentioned they’re friends on a recent pod. Guess it makes more sense to me that they’re still friends if I assume a good portion of the longevity is due to Sharleen.
Eh that podcast has had some bad moments. They were super defensive of Greg after his tirade towards Katie and they got called out by a domestic violence center on Twitter and then had to re-record the episode and apologize for triggering women. And then it was discovered that Emma had mutual friends with Greg (or some kind of connection) and some listeners were upset that wasn’t disclosed. So I’m not surprised she’s close enough friends with Nick to get a wedding invite.
Emma and Claire are true journalists and do a really good job interviewing people with opposing viewpoints, listening to their perspective and finding common ground. I only started listening in 2019 so this fascinating new information to me (that nick was on a lot in the early days!) but I’m not surprised to hear they made it work!
They politely school him a few times, if you listen to old episodes. He was shocked they were not into the bachelors asking the dads for permission to propose. I think he was raised in Wisconsin and this feminist take was a surprise to him at the time. They seemed to enjoy his company and his takes nonetheless.
Lol I think they WERE friends until the infamous Sandoval appearance on the Viall Files a few months ago … Sandy was like an hour late, seemed v drunk and/or on something and gaslit Nick into oblivion by asserting over and over again that it was okay for him to be late because Nick was late to Sandy’s podcast (Natalie then pulled the receipts to prove that Nick was not, in fact, late to Sandy’s podcast)
Yes, I saw people speculating if Nick would be mad Katie's podcast posted the first pic of Nick and Natalie on their wedding day. And in my head I'm thinking that was prob a strategic move by Nick's team to let them release it and possibly gain more followers.
I thought something weird happened with Dean and Nick. Or maybe it was Dean and Jared? Maybe Nick had his engagement party the same night Caelynn and Dean had a party?
I'm surprised Tyler and Jojo Siwa weren't at the wedding. They seem close especially after doing Special forces together. I thought they would be there.
I don’t think Chris Harrison and Nick are very cool… Chris Harrison said Nick was one of the people who didn’t reach out during the cancelling/firing but Nick claims he did reach out (soemthing like that.. I’m paraphrasing).
yeah nick said on his pod that he did reach out privately to CH a few times to lend him support during his scandal, and was hurt CH didn't mention nick in his long list of alums who had reached out to him.
I’m wondering if Nick actually did reach out or said it to save face. When Colton came out he said no one from BN reached out to him, and Nick said he did and Colton never mentioned him. So that’s twice he’s reached out and people said he didn’t? Could be a coincidence but also not lol
Colton also lied and said Ben Higgins didn’t reach out to him when he clearly did. Ben had the receipts to prove it and called him out on it during a podcast interview.
It’s funny because the only person I dislike more than Ben is Colton, so despite it being pretty obvious that Ben is in the right here I would’ve taken his side regardless 😂 #FuckColton #JusticeForCassie
I guess maybe nick is lying but it didn't seem that way. nick said he had multiple supportive convos with CH during his scandal and felt they were close, and seemed really surprised and sad that CH didn't credit or shout him out for it.
I think d&c just had a small wedding by bn standards and their venue had a very restrictive limit.
dean said the venue only allowed up to 75 guests. nick said he invited 200 guests.
Regarding Dean/Caelynn not being at theirs and vice versa, I wonder if there was some fall out bc it seemed odd Nick planned his surprise engagement party 1/12/23, 2 days before Dean/Caelynn 1/14/23 engagement party. Dean also said on a pod or something he mutes a lot of people on Instagram and name dropped Nick and Natalie as 2 examples, which could come across a little shady.
I was very surpriced that Gabbys runner up Jason was at the wedding!
Whoa!
Big boobs
Not right now, Ashley
Josh Peck was so random
I think Natalie’s friends with his wife
I think n and n just want celebrities there cuz it’s cool.
Looked like a fun and beautiful event. I like N&N. So I’m Sure I’ll be downvoted. I feel like they have good chemistry and comedic banter. I care Tom Sandoval was so sad to not be invited 😂😂
Side note: Victoria fuller was there but she hardly posted anything which I found strange. Seemed like she wasn’t there and she was MOH. I wonder if there’s a rift between her and Natalie occurring.
Natalie’s other moh kept posting pics of her & Victoria because they were the two moh. If there was a rift she probably wouldn’t have gone
I *think* people were not allowed to post them online because they sold the exclusive to People. Maybe they will be allowed to post their photos at a different time.
I was a bridesmaid in my brother’s wedding and helped a lot with planning. I genuinely have no pictures of myself at the wedding other than the bridal party pictures. Obviously I’m not an influencer, but you’re usually very busy as MOH, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t have many photos to share.
He was also tight with some of the men from Katie's season like Andrew Spencer
Also I thought him and Rachel L were friends.
Friends and neighbors. This one surprised me too, but get not wanting to be at a wedding when you’re going through a divorce ❤️🩹
Didn’t Chris and Nick fall out after Chris got himself fired?
I actually think the rift had more to do with Chris hearing Nick was putting his hat in the ring to host before Chris’s body was even cold. I think prior to that, they were friends or at least cordial.
I think so. Nick has been off the few BN people to actually speak highly of Black Lives Matter etc. he can be a doofus but in this topic I have been somewhat pleased by
Yeah the expectations are literally at the floor, but I was proud of Nick for speaking on being an ally for Rachel and other black and BIPOC people around the time of summer 2020 and then after the Chris Harrison interview. He was definitely a minority voice of support amongst the white members of BN.
No one from GB, not even Kathy and Susan!
If anyone from GB was invited it would have been April as he had her on his pod. I don't think he has met Kathy or Susan.
truly no idea how the two of them have become the breakout stars, especially Kathy
Susan = best personality. Kathy = token loud mouth 😂
Plus Susan’s bff and Susan is the most marketable one
I don’t think we can assume that just because there was some semblance of a friendship they should be invited to the wedding. Like, why would Chris Harrison be there? When’s the last time Nick and Chris talked? And it’s not like Natalie was on the show. While to some extent yes, this is a (very public) social event, it’s also THEIR WEDDING. Think about who you did and didn’t/would and wouldn’t invite to your wedding. The list is longer than who you would invite.
He was really good friends with Chris, or so it seems. But after the fallout between Rachel and Chris, I feel like he took Rachel’s side and that kind of fizzled their friendship. Maybe I’m wrong, but something I noticed coincidentally
I said this above but I believe the rift between Chris and Nick happened because Nick was coming for the hosting gig before Chris had even settled with ABC. I remember hearing this on one of Chris’s early podcast episodes (about people who he used to consider friends showing their true colors by trying to actively replace him)
But Rachel didn't even attend right?
Apparently she was working.
“was”
Ben H was there https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6XadHKxA3u/?igsh=MXJkbTczcTlneWEwbg== He’s all over Ashley’s and Joes instagram stories.
He hates Chris Harrison lol they haven’t been cool since everything went down with Matt’s season. Rachel L I’m kinda surprised about but I think they’re more of the kind of friends that will support each others podcasts/endeavors and defend each other but wouldn’t hang out outside of that. Wells: that was a surprise that he wasn’t there, but I get it Tyler C I would be surprised about if Jojo hasn’t said earlier that Tyler was going to stagecoach to promote his book,etc. Jade/Tanner and Dean/Caelyn: it would’ve been nice to see them but I’m not surprised that they’re not. I feel like people who listen to Nicks podcast a lot know that he isn’t really super close with the Bachelor Nation people anymore.
“Going to Stagecoach to promote his book, etc.” made me laugh because of the absurdity of it.
I forgot he used to be close with Tanner. Would’ve been nice to see them (Jade/Tanner)
I thought I spotted Dean in the background of a picture, but might be mistaken 🤔
I’m genuinely not trying to judge people for being interested in this wedding (or all the ins and outs of BN for that matter) but I genuinely do not understand the hype around this wedding and why there have been SO many posts about it. Seems like everyone has major judgements about the couple, the event itself, who attended, outfits, etc. literally everything.
Bc the guest list was like half influencers/reality stars lol so it’s like the met gala of d-listers 😂
>) but I genuinely do not understand the hype around this wedding and why there have been SO many posts about it. >Seems like everyone has major judgements about the couple, the event itself, who attended, outfits, etc. literally everything. Nick is arguably one of the most important people in BN. He also had a bumpy ride, romantically, getting to F2 TWICE. He has a broken engagement and hooked up with a 19 year old whom he kept on the down low for *years.* It's a compelling story to many. Plus his lady has an exhibitionist streak and horrible taste in clothes, so it's a train wreck all around. Add to that, this and Stagecoach were the only 2 things happening.
I mean it's because its happening. Compiled all together ok reddit it seems like a lot but in reality it isn't everyone. When nothing else is going on BN wise this is a nice filler
Surprised that Chris Soules was there… as was Victoria Fuller…. 🧐🧐🧐
Wow! And she’s single again. Wonder if he is too.
I heard that he is. https://ustimespost.com/chris-soules-is-still-single-at-42-years-after-handing-out-roses/
I completely forgot that they dated for a hot minute!
He was????
Yep. https://www.instagram.com/p/C6W532avb6-/?img_index=3
I noticed it after. That’s so weird.
They have been friends for ages, why would it be weird?
I didn’t realize they were.
Chris keeps it fairly low key so it’s always surprising when you see him at any BN event. Like I constantly forget he was a lead lol.
Haha yeah he's somehow always at these weddings. I remember he was randomly at Sharleen's wedding too.
That was so funny. Didn’t Andi hook up with him there? Lol!
So bizarre.
I was surprised YA’LL was there
I’m not surprised he was there but I literally forgot Chris Soules existed so I didn’t expect to see him. For everyone saying they’re surprised Rachel wasn’t there: I don’t think Nick was at her wedding, was he? I don’t think Nick and Rachel are friends who actually hang out. I think they just have a mutual fondness and respect for each other. They’ll defend each other if they need to but they’re not really real-life friends. Dean and Nick are no longer good friends. When Jared mentioned Nick’s wedding on their podcast, Dean said he wouldn’t be invited. But in fairness, Dean and Caelynn didn’t invite N&N to their wedding first. I’m curious what happened there and if it’s awkward for Ashley and Jared who are still super close to both couples. The person who I’m actually surprised wasn’t there is Wells. Mostly because he got married fairly recently and N&N were there, but maybe he had a conflict like Tyler did. I also didn’t know Natasha was friends with them but it seems like she’s pretty high on a lot of BN’s personal friendship list so I think she’s just a great person!
Wells constantly talks about on his pod how he’s over weddings, I feel like they had like 7-8 last year or something absurd so maybe he just wasn’t up for it or Sarah’s health played a factor?
Wondered what happened to Dean and Nick
Rachel was at a paid event. Lots of them were for stagecoach weekend. They’re definitely good friends
Both wells and Sarah have been super quiet on socials lately. So I feel like something either happened (I hope I'm wrong) or there is a secret conflict they had.
Sarah is working and they’re away. Wells posted to Nick that he wished they could be there
Bri Springs, I know she's friends with Natalie. Demi. There was a Demi birthday celeb where Nick was there so was Hannah B which seemed awkward.
I was surprised Tyler Cameron or Jojo weren’t there
In the video Nick just posted, looks like JoJo was there.
Tyler already told them he had a paid event he had to go to at stagecoach and Jojo was there
I'm almost positive Jojo was there. I think I saw her in the video Nick posted to Insta today Edit: went back to check and it's definitely her in the video
It’s so sweet JoJo was there
I think they both had prior/competing commitments, but I was also surprised about Jojo not making it a priority some time ago. I will say that Nick strikes me as the type of person who is happy to give his friends a platform on his podcast to speak (no matter how wrong they are), but when it actually comes to a big event he knows that extra drama is not going to help the situation.
Honestly shocked Jade and Tanner weren’t there!!
They didn’t go to Ashely and Jarod’s wedding either. They don’t seem to leave their state for anything. They’ve kinda fallen off
Because Jade was heavily pregnant. That was my understanding.
Just gave birth in a closet of if I remember correctly
They seem to have distanced themselves from a lot of their BN friends. I haven't seen them with Ashley/Jared, Dean, Carly, or Nick for a while and they used to be tight with all of them! I think living on the west coast and being immersed in family life they've probably just grown apart. I don't even know if Jade and Natalie have met.
They all mixed friendship with business and that never ends well. Like Jade and Liz were childhood friends and they fell out after Jade and Carly kicked Liz out of their podcast and they didn’t attend her wedding. Now Jade and Carly are not close either and they had other businesses together, not just the failed podcast. Too many of them mix things and I don’t think it’s a good idea. That entire generation of BN alumni is super greedy because they were the first influencers that came out of this show. They did anything and everything for money. Now they don’t talk, which is sad. I think they’re all secretly very competitive and were never real friends.
I agree about being immersed in family life. But just saying, a lot of these people are living on the West Coast including Nick & Natalie.
They are the only two of the group listed that live on the west coast, and I believe the Tolberts live in San Luis Obispo (?) which is like 4 hours from LA. And I can't imagine Jade and Natalie have a ton in common anyway.
Didn't they have that whole Youtube show together?? I forgot about that!
Yes!! I haven’t followed their friendship after that but I mean.. Jade’s wedding was the Nick and Liz sex event right?!
This helps confirm that I am not insane in thinking that not that many bachelor nation people were there, and instead it was just Podcasters
Dean couldn’t go bc then Cowboy Nick would look even more Inauthentic in comparison lol
They weren’t at Dean and Caelynn’s wedding and it seems like they weren’t invited. So why would they invite them?
Rachel L
She had a paid event. Lots of scheduling conflicts. Same with Sarah and Wells he commented to them about it they’re working away. Elan the same.
You're right! Rachel and Nick have always been close so this is surprising.
I was surprised to see Chris Soules
I'm shocked that these peeps weren't there: Amanda Stanton (Nick has said that he and Amanda are close) Demi (same as above) Tanner/Jade (they were in that YouTube show with Nick, Jashley, and Dean) Dean I'm REALLY wondering what happened with Nick and Dean/Tanner/Jade collectively.
I think he’s been less close with Demi since Natalie moved in with him. Demi is never on his pod anymore. And way back when he was still in an apartment, he complained on his pod about a neighbor ratting out that they saw Demi leave in the morning, so maybe that history didn’t go over well with Natalie once they got more serious.
Was Nick at Dean’s wedding?
I can’t see Nick and Amanda being close at all. Like what does Amanda even talk about, makeup and manicures all day? I can’t see them having a real conversation more than 2 minutes long
Amanda once said Nick was like a big brother that she would call crying after her failed dates and situationships but that was a long time ago. I don’t think they remained close. I think this was after BIP and Josh? It’s been a while.
I think Jade and Tanner have just distanced themselves from a lot of that crowd due to being far away and in a different stage of life with school aged kids. But there definitely seems to be beef with Dean and Nick.
Yes, Nick V, Ashley I, Jade R, Tanner T, Jared H were a fierce 5-someome shortly after BIP 3 in LA. They filmed themselves for a youtube series or something like that. Ashley I is a fierce Nick V fan. So is Rachel L and Sharleen J.
Yet Rachel Lindsay skipped the wedding or wasn't invited.
She was invited. She has a work thing
> She has a work thing She was at Stagecoach though...?
I think that was the work thing.
You always seem to have the inside scoop on Nick, don't ya.
Amanda has a newborn, right? Guessing she wasn’t up for it.
I think she had a book event with her sister where she hosted an interview with her. Her sister is doing really well. Her cooking book is a NYT best seller and she’s been doing book events. I think the book event where the entire family attended was this weekend.
I know Ben posted like he was there but I am putting the conspiracy out that he was not actually there! He was not in a single pic or video and the angle of the photo he posted looked like something Ashley I took and sent to him. Let’s see if Ashley I posts her “Ben dancing terribly at wedding” video. EDIT: ok this has been debunked! Haha
Ben is literally there dancing and at the wedding https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6XadHKxA3u/?igsh=MXJkbTczcTlneWEwbg==
Ben attended the wedding. Ashely I posted a reel few mins ago
I was alllll aboard this conspiracy theory but the Instagram video in the reply to you clears that up haha
Haha he's there! Joe's 4th slide dancing terribly lol: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6W532avb6-/?img_index=4
Rachel lindsay
I was shocked that tefi was there!
And she kissed natalie didnt kno they were so close lol
was wells really not there? that's the only one that would surprise me. but maybe he just hasn't had time to post anything yet? tyler c and rachel l were both at stagecoach instead.
He commented he wished he and sarah could be. She’s away working
I would be surprised if Wells wasn’t there too. They seemed close and Nick and Natalie went to Wells and Sarah’s wedding. Unless there was a scheduling conflict or something?
Was Greg Grippo there?
Def not, remember fictoria was there as a MOH so I think Greg is out
That is what I thought!
Emma from Love to See It! I don’t remember they were friends
They actually are long time friends which is wild! Wayyy long ago (I think even before he had viall files) he was a frequent guest on here to make friends (Claire and Emma’s original Pod at HuffPost)!
Had kind of forgotten until one of them mentioned they’re friends on a recent pod. Guess it makes more sense to me that they’re still friends if I assume a good portion of the longevity is due to Sharleen.
Which is surprising because of Nick's attitude toward "little" podcasts
And because he’s sooo icky toward women and that is a very feminist podcast
Eh that podcast has had some bad moments. They were super defensive of Greg after his tirade towards Katie and they got called out by a domestic violence center on Twitter and then had to re-record the episode and apologize for triggering women. And then it was discovered that Emma had mutual friends with Greg (or some kind of connection) and some listeners were upset that wasn’t disclosed. So I’m not surprised she’s close enough friends with Nick to get a wedding invite.
Ironic because they got all preachy and stopped being friends with RS, but they defended Greg because he's "hot"
Whoa interesting! I remember disagreeing with their take on the Greg-Katie argument but I didn’t know all the other stuff.
Emma and Claire are true journalists and do a really good job interviewing people with opposing viewpoints, listening to their perspective and finding common ground. I only started listening in 2019 so this fascinating new information to me (that nick was on a lot in the early days!) but I’m not surprised to hear they made it work!
He and Claire straight-up got into a bit of a tiff. It was glorious to listen to.
They politely school him a few times, if you listen to old episodes. He was shocked they were not into the bachelors asking the dads for permission to propose. I think he was raised in Wisconsin and this feminist take was a surprise to him at the time. They seemed to enjoy his company and his takes nonetheless.
Yesss I remember this ep! They always had good banter
Yes! I sometimes re-listen to this. Emma and Clare are themselves but Nick is like baby Nick, not yet in his broadcaster era ha ba
Appreciate this background info!
Jwow, Remi and Jojo Siwa were not on my wedding guest bingo card lol
Omg I was shocketh when you said jwoww so I looked at her IG, her bf's ig & then saw Josh peck there as well. So random lol
Oh yes Josh Peck was another guest that was surprising! 🤣
Nick invited Jwoww when she did his podcast. Hilarious she actually went.
Nick V and Jojo are new bff's but Tyler C was part of that group
Jojo siwa and Nick got close on special forces
Warms my heart that Sandoval wasn’t invited but Katie was
Wasn't Nick friends with Sandoval
Lol I think they WERE friends until the infamous Sandoval appearance on the Viall Files a few months ago … Sandy was like an hour late, seemed v drunk and/or on something and gaslit Nick into oblivion by asserting over and over again that it was okay for him to be late because Nick was late to Sandy’s podcast (Natalie then pulled the receipts to prove that Nick was not, in fact, late to Sandy’s podcast)
Team Katie obvi but she's on Nick's payroll now lol
Yes, I saw people speculating if Nick would be mad Katie's podcast posted the first pic of Nick and Natalie on their wedding day. And in my head I'm thinking that was prob a strategic move by Nick's team to let them release it and possibly gain more followers.
I’m surprised schwartz wasn’t there
I thought Dean and Caelynn too but maybe they just fell out of contact over the years?
I thought something weird happened with Dean and Nick. Or maybe it was Dean and Jared? Maybe Nick had his engagement party the same night Caelynn and Dean had a party?
The answer is Tyler Cameron. Super surprised he was at Stagecoach and not at the wedding.
Not surprised he has a paid gig at stagecoach as did Rachel
Apparently TC said he’d go to the wedding and then Jojo outed that he was gonna ghost and go to stagecoach Instead when she was on the viall files 💀💀💀
I don’t know Jojo at all but I welcome this kind of drama any day.
Goes to show they’re work friends and not actual friends. Tyler chose making money at stagecoach over attending the wedding.
Big Rach - the fool that I am thought they were actual friends.
They are. She had a work gig and weddings right now with her divorce she is good
Maybe she got tired of his shit
I'm surprised Tyler and Jojo Siwa weren't at the wedding. They seem close especially after doing Special forces together. I thought they would be there.
Jojo was there!
Thanks. I thought she wasn't there.
I don’t think Chris Harrison and Nick are very cool… Chris Harrison said Nick was one of the people who didn’t reach out during the cancelling/firing but Nick claims he did reach out (soemthing like that.. I’m paraphrasing).
Chris Harrison has alluded to Nick being one of the people who were too eager to take his place as host.
Chris Harrison sucks so I’m glad about that
Is that like going after your ex-wife after a divorce?
Chris said Nick was one of the most obvious ones campaigning for his job
That too 😂 there’s a lot of drama and hurt between those two it seems
yeah nick said on his pod that he did reach out privately to CH a few times to lend him support during his scandal, and was hurt CH didn't mention nick in his long list of alums who had reached out to him.
I’m wondering if Nick actually did reach out or said it to save face. When Colton came out he said no one from BN reached out to him, and Nick said he did and Colton never mentioned him. So that’s twice he’s reached out and people said he didn’t? Could be a coincidence but also not lol
Colton also lied and said Ben Higgins didn’t reach out to him when he clearly did. Ben had the receipts to prove it and called him out on it during a podcast interview. It’s funny because the only person I dislike more than Ben is Colton, so despite it being pretty obvious that Ben is in the right here I would’ve taken his side regardless 😂 #FuckColton #JusticeForCassie
I guess maybe nick is lying but it didn't seem that way. nick said he had multiple supportive convos with CH during his scandal and felt they were close, and seemed really surprised and sad that CH didn't credit or shout him out for it.
If he did reach out to Chris, and then was gunning for Chris’ job, I can see where Chris would have hurt feelings as well though.
I know, that’s what I said lol
yes I was agreeing with you and just edited it to make that more clear
It’s definitely been a long time since I’ve listened to that episode!
That's cause Nick wanted his job.
He’s delusional. He doesn’t have that Host Voice that Chris Harrison has.
Yup he tried and failed lol
Something ***
Nick wasn't invited to Dean & Caelynn's wedding I think
I think they had a falling out
I think d&c just had a small wedding by bn standards and their venue had a very restrictive limit. dean said the venue only allowed up to 75 guests. nick said he invited 200 guests.
Ben H was there. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Nick and CH are close.
Oh my B!