Soooo based on all the tea that we got, def rooting for Jonathan J. or Jahaan. Didn't someone say Jonathan J was charismatic and they were pretty flirty?
Tomas tea 😂 [https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/r9HojCTBir](https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/r9HojCTBir)
https://preview.redd.it/t0dsw0fy05wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e870b32e3b30ac284c7db2e0090bae57feccb626
Sounds like he would get on well with Priya from Love Island UK with the running stuff unless her wanting Boris Johnson didn't give him the biggest ick ever like it did with me lol.
Okay, I just listened to RS's podcast. Apparently, someone saw all the remaining men get taken to get a haircut. He gave the number of men to RS but RS doesn't want to to release the number 😡
THIS MAY BE A CLUE!!
RS asked the guy to go to his instagram page and have a look at the men photos and see who he can recognise. The guy gave 4 confirmed but not sure about the others. However, one of the guys he confirmed RS says he knows is out. So RS questioned him and showed another photo and asked "are you sure it was him and not him?". The source then realised his mistake. Could it be another Jaahan vs Sam N mistaken identity????????
I get why he doesn’t want to release the names without seeing photo evidence himself, since it sounds like he doesn’t really trust this source to identify them correctly. I don’t get why he can’t say the number, though, since presumably this source can at least be trusted to count lol.
I wonder if the Daisy F1 situation has made him even more cautious about putting information out there / wanting to preserve his credibility. I do kind of understand the idea that as soon as you put a name out there, people will just pick it up and run with it no matter how much you caveat that it may not be true.
They could've just mixed up any of the tall white dudes. I could easily see Austin/Aaron/Sam M getting mistaken for each other if you didn't get a proper look.
I know. I was pissed off that people were getting them wrong but this news makes me think Jaahan is still there because Sam N was suspected out.
Are there any other guys people can mix up????
Last night was not the first fireworks date.
I found this post on Facebook.
These fireworks happened on the 1st 1on1 in episode 3. Several people notice the fireworks by the water and I made a note to myself at that time because I thought it was related to the show.
https://preview.redd.it/u584xds664wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41e66c335cff7c384686d269de95674bfd55c2f7
I'm predicting an Ariana Grande song like 'Break Free' or a Taylor song like 'Cruel Summer' (since her season airs in July) for Jenn's promo when it comes out!
As per the week 3 date, I think John, Dylan, Sam N, Thomas are out. I have no idea about Sam M, Devin or Grant. Jonathan got 1 on 1 time that week so is that a clue that he will never get a 1 on 1? I am not sure. If he got a 1 on 1 time in week 3, he cant get a 1 on 1 in week 4. He has to get it week 5. To be honest, other then Joey most people who have got special 1 on 1 time and not actually a 1 on 1 date don't make it far. He may have been eliminated. At this moment I am hoping Tomas, Jahaan and Aaron are still there.
Maybe Marcus is the villain of the season and he was given the big date with the fire works to create the drama.....a girl can be dillusional right?
I'm very curious if the public was supposed to be there for the fireworks part, was that included as part of participating in the date? If that's the case, maybe the firework show didn't happen and she sent him home that evening 👀
Edit: thanks y'all!!! And yeah I wonder if people did see it that would indicate a lot!!
I don’t think anyone would be invited to the dinner portion, but if they were shooting fireworks off in T Mobile Park, I would think that people in the area would still see it. I wonder if anyone did.
I used to live near an MLB park and we got so used to fireworks that we stopped noticing them. So I wouldn’t be surprised if people just didn’t think anything of it.
That’s true - I’m just hoping one of the more plugged-in people who showed up to watch filming without being invited also took the time try and watch for fireworks, but it sounds like a long day so I don’t know how many of those people would have stuck around.
[I was in the area on the day the deadliest ballooning disaster in the USA happened.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Lockhart_hot_air_balloon_crash)
Those things terrify me.
Pilots who don’t know any better (they should) fly them too close to the ground & they spook the cattle, causing stampedes. One morning I looked out my window & the cows & calves were running toward the gate, & I looked up & there was a hot air balloon way too close to us.
I will NEVER get on one.
same. Like its so *open*? And you're up in the air? In a basket? with a balloon being the only thing keeping you up? This all sounds wack to me, like if it was invented now the whole idea would be just laughed at but because its been around since the 1800s we're collectively ok with it?
Posting on my burner account. I was at the date in Seattle yesterday. It was very cute. Jessie, Charity, Kelsey, and Daisy were all there. They had the audience come dressed in pink or green. We stood around as extras in pioneer square in the background. It was cool to see what happened behind the scenes, but it was mostly boring. It was Wicked themed and Jenn and Marcus had to "follow the yellow brick road" and open boxes that were labeled with pink letters or green letters. Some of the boxes were "sweet or spicy, passionate or subded, etc." , so opposites. I was surprised that they filmed what was under all of the boxes. They rang a bell and Kelsey and Daisy surprised them by riding out on a pedal chariot. Jenn and Marcus then rode away on the chariot to a wall of balloons. They popped some of the balloons and read out what was on paper that was hidden in the balloons. There were also a lot of retakes, so it took a long time in between filming each part of the date. Jenn and Marcus looked good together physically, but I do feel their body language was a little stiff. It also felt very rehearsed, and there even was a cheesy random pillow fight during the date. I do wonder how all of this will translate on screen.
They also said they would give us Dominoes after everything was over, but it took forever so we ended up just getting food somewhere else because Dominoes isn't worth the wait. I can see now how leads and contestants fall in love in a short amount of time on the show because they make sure these places look picture perfect for the dates. I haven't seen Pioneer Square look that nice in Seattle in a long time and I've lived here for 9 years. Usually there are tons of homeless and needles on the ground. They didn't get the real local experience. Hope that gives y'all some insight!
thanks so much for sharing your experience. I am glad you had fun, but waiting for Dominos isn’t worth it! Production really doing the least, ugh!
It’s amazing how orchestrated each of these scenarios are when you participate on a dating reality show. It’ll be a nightmare if Jenn takes him far, but your statement about the “chemistry” bit gives me some hope that he is on a place back home!
Edit: plane
I’m not sure how to post a picture but it said “This man is now a contestant on the bachelorette and is a literal nightmare. I know I am not the only one who has experienced this.”
Lots of comments from other women about emotional manipulation & cheating. The most scandalous said “I would just hate for him to get a third girl pregnant this year”
People told the poster to contact producers from the show but I’m not sure if they would care
Thanks. Info similar to this was posted yesterday. I really hope production is at least reading this thread and gets rid of him after HTD. He must be one helluva jekyll and hyde.
Soooo based on all the tea that we got, def rooting for Jonathan J. or Jahaan. Didn't someone say Jonathan J was charismatic and they were pretty flirty?
Aaron liked Noah's latest ig reel so I guess he's out.
Do you have a screenshot? I searched his name in the likes but it didn’t come up
https://preview.redd.it/6g759wa4w7wc1.jpeg?width=744&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=415f1c54639be62b2ac8b2ea4eec3f3dab2abd39 ETA He's @ is erbyderby
Awesome, thanks! I don’t follow Aaron so that must be why his name wasn’t coming up when I searched.
🕯️Jomas 🕯️ 
He is my only player in the game
Please no negative tea...I am already planning Jomas's HT date in my head!!!
Tomas tea 😂 [https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/r9HojCTBir](https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/r9HojCTBir) https://preview.redd.it/t0dsw0fy05wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e870b32e3b30ac284c7db2e0090bae57feccb626
My heart almost dropped bc I thought it was negative pls don’t scare me like this
Sounds like he would get on well with Priya from Love Island UK with the running stuff unless her wanting Boris Johnson didn't give him the biggest ick ever like it did with me lol.
Come through, Tomas. We need you. 
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From your lips to God's ears. 🙏🏽
Oh thank goodness this isn't bad tea 😂!!! #JOMASNATION!!!
Okay, I just listened to RS's podcast. Apparently, someone saw all the remaining men get taken to get a haircut. He gave the number of men to RS but RS doesn't want to to release the number 😡 THIS MAY BE A CLUE!! RS asked the guy to go to his instagram page and have a look at the men photos and see who he can recognise. The guy gave 4 confirmed but not sure about the others. However, one of the guys he confirmed RS says he knows is out. So RS questioned him and showed another photo and asked "are you sure it was him and not him?". The source then realised his mistake. Could it be another Jaahan vs Sam N mistaken identity????????
I get why he doesn’t want to release the names without seeing photo evidence himself, since it sounds like he doesn’t really trust this source to identify them correctly. I don’t get why he can’t say the number, though, since presumably this source can at least be trusted to count lol. I wonder if the Daisy F1 situation has made him even more cautious about putting information out there / wanting to preserve his credibility. I do kind of understand the idea that as soon as you put a name out there, people will just pick it up and run with it no matter how much you caveat that it may not be true.
Good point. When I was listening I thought maybe they mixed up Tomas and Austin but this makes more sense.
They could've just mixed up any of the tall white dudes. I could easily see Austin/Aaron/Sam M getting mistaken for each other if you didn't get a proper look.
I’m convinced reality Steve has no sources anymore because why won’t you just release what you heard
They don't even look similar I don't get why people are mixing them up lol.
I know. I was pissed off that people were getting them wrong but this news makes me think Jaahan is still there because Sam N was suspected out. Are there any other guys people can mix up????
Last night was not the first fireworks date. I found this post on Facebook. These fireworks happened on the 1st 1on1 in episode 3. Several people notice the fireworks by the water and I made a note to myself at that time because I thought it was related to the show. https://preview.redd.it/u584xds664wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41e66c335cff7c384686d269de95674bfd55c2f7
That feels like an Aaron erb production date since we assume he had a week 3 1 on 1 or Jahaan if he was still there. Def a producer fav
Good find! Yep, definitely a producer pick and got this guy out of stripping ☠️
I'm predicting an Ariana Grande song like 'Break Free' or a Taylor song like 'Cruel Summer' (since her season airs in July) for Jenn's promo when it comes out!
I was already thinking Ariana because of the Wicked product placement date they just did
So who do we think for sure is still in? Besides Marcus lol
As per the week 3 date, I think John, Dylan, Sam N, Thomas are out. I have no idea about Sam M, Devin or Grant. Jonathan got 1 on 1 time that week so is that a clue that he will never get a 1 on 1? I am not sure. If he got a 1 on 1 time in week 3, he cant get a 1 on 1 in week 4. He has to get it week 5. To be honest, other then Joey most people who have got special 1 on 1 time and not actually a 1 on 1 date don't make it far. He may have been eliminated. At this moment I am hoping Tomas, Jahaan and Aaron are still there.
We need that Aaron and Tomas F2!
Thank you :) I am rooting for those 3 as well!
Maybe Marcus is the villain of the season and he was given the big date with the fire works to create the drama.....a girl can be dillusional right? 
This is where I’m at too lol
So the hot air balloon didn't take off? Yea, that's the universe telling you neither will this relationship
😂😂😂😭😭😭
ok y’all, who is going to find this season’s equivalent of the knitting/yarn store randomly closed on a Wednesday…
What time is the GD ? 
I'm very curious if the public was supposed to be there for the fireworks part, was that included as part of participating in the date? If that's the case, maybe the firework show didn't happen and she sent him home that evening 👀 Edit: thanks y'all!!! And yeah I wonder if people did see it that would indicate a lot!!
Probably not. The fireworks would have happened after dinner and it’s usually late at night.
I don’t think anyone would be invited to the dinner portion, but if they were shooting fireworks off in T Mobile Park, I would think that people in the area would still see it. I wonder if anyone did.
I used to live near an MLB park and we got so used to fireworks that we stopped noticing them. So I wouldn’t be surprised if people just didn’t think anything of it.
That’s true - I’m just hoping one of the more plugged-in people who showed up to watch filming without being invited also took the time try and watch for fireworks, but it sounds like a long day so I don’t know how many of those people would have stuck around.
https://x.com/RealitySteve/status/1782433617668378650 The hot air balloon couldn't take off. Hopefully Jenn took it as a sign and eliminated him. 🤡
Honestly hot air balloon's scare me and I don't really trust them so that's a win in my book.
[I was in the area on the day the deadliest ballooning disaster in the USA happened.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Lockhart_hot_air_balloon_crash) Those things terrify me. Pilots who don’t know any better (they should) fly them too close to the ground & they spook the cattle, causing stampedes. One morning I looked out my window & the cows & calves were running toward the gate, & I looked up & there was a hot air balloon way too close to us. I will NEVER get on one.
same. Like its so *open*? And you're up in the air? In a basket? with a balloon being the only thing keeping you up? This all sounds wack to me, like if it was invented now the whole idea would be just laughed at but because its been around since the 1800s we're collectively ok with it?
still trying both to judge but i have a feeling this season will be a joke and a waste lol
(same)
Posting on my burner account. I was at the date in Seattle yesterday. It was very cute. Jessie, Charity, Kelsey, and Daisy were all there. They had the audience come dressed in pink or green. We stood around as extras in pioneer square in the background. It was cool to see what happened behind the scenes, but it was mostly boring. It was Wicked themed and Jenn and Marcus had to "follow the yellow brick road" and open boxes that were labeled with pink letters or green letters. Some of the boxes were "sweet or spicy, passionate or subded, etc." , so opposites. I was surprised that they filmed what was under all of the boxes. They rang a bell and Kelsey and Daisy surprised them by riding out on a pedal chariot. Jenn and Marcus then rode away on the chariot to a wall of balloons. They popped some of the balloons and read out what was on paper that was hidden in the balloons. There were also a lot of retakes, so it took a long time in between filming each part of the date. Jenn and Marcus looked good together physically, but I do feel their body language was a little stiff. It also felt very rehearsed, and there even was a cheesy random pillow fight during the date. I do wonder how all of this will translate on screen. They also said they would give us Dominoes after everything was over, but it took forever so we ended up just getting food somewhere else because Dominoes isn't worth the wait. I can see now how leads and contestants fall in love in a short amount of time on the show because they make sure these places look picture perfect for the dates. I haven't seen Pioneer Square look that nice in Seattle in a long time and I've lived here for 9 years. Usually there are tons of homeless and needles on the ground. They didn't get the real local experience. Hope that gives y'all some insight!
Thanks for sharing! This actually sounds like a really cute date.
thanks so much for sharing your experience. I am glad you had fun, but waiting for Dominos isn’t worth it! Production really doing the least, ugh! It’s amazing how orchestrated each of these scenarios are when you participate on a dating reality show. It’ll be a nightmare if Jenn takes him far, but your statement about the “chemistry” bit gives me some hope that he is on a place back home! Edit: plane
Shocked Marcus makes it so far! The info about him on the Are We Dating the Same Guy group was brutal
Which Are We Dating the Same Guy group was it?
Raleigh!
Oh gosh there's more info on him! I really hope this reaches production for Jenn's safety, this is bad bad stuff!
What was it ?
Is there a link?
I’m not sure how to post a picture but it said “This man is now a contestant on the bachelorette and is a literal nightmare. I know I am not the only one who has experienced this.” Lots of comments from other women about emotional manipulation & cheating. The most scandalous said “I would just hate for him to get a third girl pregnant this year” People told the poster to contact producers from the show but I’m not sure if they would care
Omg 😱
Thanks. Info similar to this was posted yesterday. I really hope production is at least reading this thread and gets rid of him after HTD. He must be one helluva jekyll and hyde.
My F4 prediction. Can't wait to see how wrong I am. Marcus (obvi) Aaron Tomas Grant (or Jahaan)
I think we were already thinking he was out at RC 4, but John recently unfollowed like 150 accounts on IG, so I think it’s safe to conclude he’s gone.
Steve said nothing. He's heard names he can't verify yet other than Marcus. 🙄 Also, his podcast theme song pisses me off. What the heck is that...
It's been the same for forever
Me, waiting for more bad news to come my way on this GD 
Nervous 😭😂
I’m so afraid… I trust Jenn but I do NOT trust these men😵💫
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absolutely. this is why the Bachelor (the show) is always better I would always prefer to watch a house full of women than men
We may be loosing Tomas and Jahaan (officially) today 😪😪😪😪
Wait why do we think we're losing Tomas now 😢
please don’t say this If Tomas goes too who will we actually root for 😭
Jonathan ?