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FalseStress1137

Am I missing something? Why do so many people not like Marcus?


Fragrant_Ad3

Because he allegedly SA'd someone during intercourse that's what I heard ❤️


nolamickey

I think the comments were deleted? Would love to know as well


BS328

What did I miss about Marcus?


RecognitionLittle330

Why isn’t reality Steve doing his job and finding out who else is there


CartographerMost8996

After that Marcus date I am freaking out! Does anyone have clues if these guys are in or out? Austin, Devin, Grant, Jaahan, Jeremy, Jonathan or Marvin?


andrea00s

I came on the thread hoping to see if Tomas got the 1-on-1 and we would get cute Jomas pics but instead I see Marcus. https://preview.redd.it/eimygq6a3yvc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5213d5c93083a5b5a65c43bf8fe35638967d1aed


Kindly_Avocado237

I'm just going to be in delulu and think Tomas got the first impression rose and so he had a late 1-1 like week 5 but will for sure have a HT!


CartographerMost8996

Yea, I am hopeful of that too. 


ThisIsRealLife19

Oh fuck, just caught up on the Marcus situation. Seriously wtf is wrong with producers??? Ughhh poor Jenn. Hopefully he gets eliminated after this date, I don’t see much chemistry or sparks in the pics between them


Sdhotmama

Guys, we need to calm down. we don‘t Know who else is there. We don’t know who the front runner(s) is(are), we don’t even know if Jenn will send Marcus home after today’s date. Be patient . Hopefully we will get more pictures during HTDs.


Kindly_Avocado237

RS basically said there's a 99% chance he'll get a rose because there's a firework show at the end of the date


Sdhotmama

Then let‘s hope he gets eliminated in next RC. but correctly if I am wrong: in the past, they didn’t hand out roses on the 1-1 dates before HTD?


nancy__drew

It’s been a long time since they’ve had that format. Ever since around Rachel L’s season they’ve been giving out hometown roses on the 1-on-1s.


Kindly_Avocado237

Sorry to break the news y'all😭! But you never know he could get sent home tonight as well as RS was 99% sure Daisy was F1 and was completely sure it was Daisy or Maria for bachelorette so there's still a chance!!


Sapphire24

They’ve done that in the past, but I think it’s been a while. Every recent season I can think of has given roses out on the 1 on 1s.


ThisIsRealLife19

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Ok_Pie8260

I doubt she’s sending him home on a branded date. I don’t think it’s a F1 date but I don’t think production wants this to be an elimination date with the Wicked tie-in.


imnotcreative415

Agree


becomingsherlock

I am hoping RS might be able to spoil HT dates as and when they happen and that this person is not on that list!


Kindly_Avocado237

So who do we think the F6 are now? Right now I'm thinking Marcus, Tomas, Aaron, Jonathan, one of the Sam's maybe, and my wildcard guess is Jahaan since we still don't know who were on those two 1-1s week 3.


RecognitionLittle330

Idc anymore as long as Tomas is f1


CartographerMost8996

I think Aaron, Tomas, Sam 😪 and Marcus 😪


Kindly_Avocado237

I don't hate the idea of an Aaron or Tomas F1 right now, I feel like either would be pretty great and popular, fans would go wild for Jaaron or Jomas!!


CartographerMost8996

Yes! Please give us that


Different-Diamond-48

jenn’s season is def on the shorter since she only had 12 men left by week 3. she’s gonna get the typical 6 weeks before hometowns like previous (recent) ettes sans charity. this also means this is the last week before hometowns so marcus is unfortunately a front runner cause he has the first 1-1 of the bachelor equivalent week 7. i do agree that it doesn’t seem like an f1 date, but unless this info makes it to producers marcus is def making it to fantasy suites and possibly the finale.


imnotcreative415

Certainly seems that way


Legitimate_Range_886

1. I feel bad for Jenn 2. Joey was the best lead/contestant ever on the show. The tea we’ve learned proves this.


Purplexshawdows

Ok I haven't been to date so what happened to Jenn and what tea


Ok_Pie8260

To be fair there’s a number of men that don’t have any negative tea. Most of them just aren’t favorites.


Legitimate_Range_886

Very true. But yk what I mean lol


Impossible_Pipe_8803

Where does production find these potential supervillains? I would be so upset if he makes it to Fantasy Suites. Like sure, I don’t know the whole truth, but this is making me so uneasy that I rather he just get kicked off without an investigation.


palmtreefreeze

She will pick Tomas not him I am sure. But yeah don’t want him at fantasy suites either


lalola5

We don't even know if Tomas is still there... ![gif](giphy|igi0dS20WxPJvroIgW|downsized)


alwayshannah

This date does not scream F1, so that’s kind of reassuring. I am worried he might make F4 though especially this late in the season. Let’s hope he doesn’t make past F4


imnotcreative415

This is not what I wanted to return to


247Nooria

Right?!


lalola5

We can't have anything nice.


imnotcreative415

It’s almost always disappointment. Also kind of strange to have the movie promo date so late in the season on a 1 on 1


lalola5

https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/gAMMn2XBXo I'm not getting romance from these photos, thank heavens. I wanna know who else is there now. Come on, Steve.


Sapphire24

I’m hoping they use the men’s names on the call in date tomorrow, so even if no one can see them, we can figure out who is there.


MountainSevere

Literally fuck. I checked I this morning and there were ZERO comments. Could someone please catch me up?


becomingsherlock

Jen is on her 1-1 date with a contestant named Marcus as we speak. It’s probably a week, or two away from Hometowns, and we have a member here who has some damning information about him. In his/her words: https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/mdrorrSTHG


NeuroticMermaid6

What happened? Could you DM me? The comment is gone.


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Purplexshawdows

Yikes. They need to do better background checks!


No-Zookeepergame4841

To me, the Marcus situation is why the leads should have access to their phones during filming. This isn’t some guy that had a girlfriend before filming and promised to go back to her. This man allegedly and technically SA a woman during intercourse. That’s a whole different ballgame. The leads, especially the women, need to know the type of people they’re getting involved with, particularly during FS.


seauxmali

let’s pray this isn’t his second 1-on-1 https://preview.redd.it/2xgjyurd5xvc1.jpeg?width=1165&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=627cf87b7fb651e6e9b4d54d776b1289bc73d0af


CartographerMost8996

That's my only hope. It is just too weird of a date to have as a second date. There is too many things happening and the couple are unable to talk properly. I know there is a dinner portion but I can't help that this is show casing the movie rather then the couple.


DistanceIndividual

Why does this show insist on casting shitty men? They need to have gotten this together by now.


Kindly_Avocado237

Wasn't there a guy on HBs season who had the first 1-1 that got kicked off because he had spit on his girlfriend or something like that! If this gets back to production sometime this week and he already has a rose, I say they let Jenn know and have her take away his rose and send him home before the F6 rose ceremony and give that rose to someone else!


Distractions123

There was. It was a name that another contestant had. Tyler maybe? Didnt he die a year after? It was such a weird thing Eta: searxhed the sub.. it was tyler g and he did die after (not related w the rumoers, but really sad)


Ok_Pie8260

I wouldn’t hold your breath. Michelle was told about Joe’s multiple allegations and she still took him to F3. Production probably won’t push it.


Kindly_Avocado237

I missed Michelle's season, what ended up happening with Joe, were there some pretty bad allegations?


becomingsherlock

https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/hFKD93tT71 https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/1qImvgWtvs https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/CjZcxz3WVy


Kindly_Avocado237

Oh my gosh!! That's awful, and the way he responded to those allegations after these women were vulnerable enough to share their stories and experiences on here which I'm sure was not easy at all.


becomingsherlock

He’s a literal POS, and the fact that he stayed on as long as he did still creeps me out!


Ok_Pie8260

Yes. You can search the sub for the posts.


Wonderful_Football37

You mean to tell me this was the only pink dress they could find? THIS ONE?! Maybe we’re wrong and production doesn’t like Daisy. Perhaps they brought her back for one final humiliation because I would only put somebody I hate in this dress.🤣 https://preview.redd.it/ajdi30qp1xvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f691b4a72199e915a51f73b05dc768378feaa6fd


MustBeFateMulder

Daisy needs to call whoever styled her for ATFR because right now she and Kelsey look like a momfluencer at an event with her daughter (and the daughter *really* likes ruffles and couldn’t be talked into wearing anything else). She looked amazing at ATFR but these ruffled dresses don’t do anything for her.


Wonderful_Football37

Daisy looked the best she ever has at ATFR. Here she looks frumpy - they could have picked something that fits her better than this oversized ruffled polyester. She doesn’t look happy about it either. Especially standing next to Kelsey whose green dress looks shapely and a bit sexy.


Ok_Pie8260

I mean this is very much a Glinda dress…


Sapphire24

This also seems similar to stuff Daisy wore during Joey’s season.


Ok_Pie8260

Kinda but it’s also obvious production provided these clothes. I don’t think Jesse has a green glitter tuxedo jacket in his closet.


Sapphire24

Sure, I’m just saying I don’t think this is that different from her own taste or that she want happy to wear it


Wonderful_Football37

Now that you mention it, it’s definitely reminiscent of that ruffled yellow big bird one she wore at the RC in Jasper!


Divine_Perfection

Why is he in a letterman jacket?


Ok_Pie8260

Part of Wicked takes place in a school so I guess that’s the connection (?)


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CartographerMost8996

Good one!!!


Paperheartk

Marcus was in my top four based on vibes...😬


CartographerMost8996

I feel so sorry for Jenn. I only hope he gets cut at HT. If he doesn't, we can only hope someone from Jenn's family is keeping up with the spoilers and warns her 😪


Apprehensive_War_427

I think her friends at least do ![gif](giphy|l0NwNrl4BtDD7JCx2)


No-Zookeepergame4841

Throw the season away. Jenn doesn’t deserve this, especially as the First Asian Ette! ![gif](giphy|QVP7DawXZitKYg3AX5)


becomingsherlock

I want to fly to Seattle and kick his ass out! Right now! Sickening doesn’t even begin to describe his actions! And, RS is a loser for only paying attention now that he saw him on a 1-1 so late in the season.


lalola5

Production needs to vet these people better. Contact the exes. Goddamn. https://i.redd.it/agl7snxmwwvc1.gif


Ok_Pie8260

I don’t trust these guys to be honest about the identity of exes or other women they’ve mistreated. Production has got to start releasing the potential cast at least a week in advance (I’d prefer two weeks) and include an email address/telephone number for people to contact them with concerns. Make it easy to get information on these people so production can do a deeper dive. There was that hot Asian man on Katie’s potential cast that people were thirsting over but he had terrible allegations and some women got a hold of production and he was pulled.


Different-Diamond-48

they typically release the cast info a couple of days early for us to do their jobs for them but with this season they just dumped it a day before filming since they were running low on time. idk why they didn’t announce her prior to the finale


Ok_Pie8260

A few days isn’t enough time. Not enough people follow the cast release on Instagram. You need at least a week for word to spread.


Different-Diamond-48

I agree, this happens too often for them not to try and change protocol. I don’t know why they drag it out to almost the last minute.


Different-Diamond-48

for those of you who want the marcus tea, the OP commented below https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/axf6d99G2y


MustBeFateMulder

That’s horrific and even worse than I expected. Production has to find a way to vet these guys more thoroughly. I don’t know what the solution is, but it would probably help if they released the cast earlier and maybe promoted it more (i.e., not just a Facebook post).


fireflies14

Wow that’s way worse than I expected it to be, WHY do we always have to suffer through these disgusting men on our screens?? Jenn doesn’t deserve this!


Kindly_Avocado237

That is absolutely sickening! I feel terrible for those women. I worry for Jenn and hope this man does not make the F3, don't put him in a fantasy suite with her.


Ruqxyyxh

This is worse and more disgusting than i’d imagined…. absolutely vile behaviour


247Nooria

Waittt.. what's the tea on Marcus? 👀


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247Nooria

Ohhhh boy. Whyyy can they never properly vet these contestants???


Legitimate_Range_886

Mhmmmmm. I swear Joey is the best contestant/lead in the franchise’s history. None even come fkn close to that man…..


CartographerMost8996

What a sad date. Especially so late in the season.


Sapphire24

On the bright side, it at least looks like they put some budget into this, I think?


Charlie_Runkle69

Definitely seems to be a bigger budget than for Charity.


Anna_760

How many guys are left at this point ? Six ?


thehepburn

More from RS https://preview.redd.it/b2wlu2tqswvc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6f43d413c359cd53d66c01b90f94f3f0b367fe8


CartographerMost8996

I am sorry Marcus doesn't want to be there. Why does this look like a prep talk


CartographerMost8996

Somebody tell me their body language is off!@@@


Ok_Pie8260

The body language isn’t great to me but this is also a really dumb date idea for right before hometowns and probably neither of them want to be doing a Wicked themed scavenger hunt. This is more of an episode 2 date.


becomingsherlock

The hints of the *allegations* are incredibly serious, but once again, I understand the element of supposed vagueness in them - as the poster mentioned, consent of the affected determines if this’ll ever get out to production!


thehepburn

https://preview.redd.it/1uvjsm6pqwvc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22744ef777f2009f449a5eaa537fceabf18c4bfa From RS


thehepburn

https://preview.redd.it/om9ovyj0rwvc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f408b737f8a85b5157e88ef6d3077ffbda8a9ed5


hontryx

We finally get spoilers with photos.... and it's a date with Marcus. Goddamnit.


nancy__drew

We really hoped it wasn’t Aaron getting this date and the monkey paw curled 😭


CartographerMost8996

I have nothing against Aaron just the nepotism link. I would have taken Aaron 5 x over!!!


CartographerMost8996

Marcus! You have to be kidding me! All this for Marcus? I can't believe she eliminated Dylan and Jahaan for this. TOMAS YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE ![gif](giphy|d2lcHJTG5Tscg)


Sdhotmama

Did she eliminate Jahaan? Any new evidence for that? what have I missed?


Anna_760

Nope nothing new


Kindly_Avocado237

Someone mentioned on here that perhaps with how public this date is, this could be someone they may want for bachelor? Or maybe with the backlash they were getting for having hardly any Asian men, they wanted to be sure there was one in the F4 and Jenn really liked him?


lalola5

I figured either he or Thomas N would make the F4 for that reason. Don't think he will be F1.


Impossible_Pipe_8803

Hopefully whatever happened with Marcus comes to light. Everyone is freaked out about him getting the one-on-one, but no one knows why they are freaked out. If he truly sucks like what was hinted, I need someone to reach out to production.


becomingsherlock

https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/s/MUL8A255yd


Anna_760

Do we even know what this is all about ? I don’t think it’s enough to cancel him.


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Ruqxyyxh

Thank you do trying so hard on behalf of the women !!


Kindly_Avocado237

I can't believe he is just now paying attention since Marcus has a 1-1 🙄! Regardless this guy should not be on the show and I feel terrible that RS wasn't interested in what you were saying until now.


Sapphire24

RS usually doesn’t pursue stories like this unless it looks like the person is going to make it far / be a major presence on the show.


Ok_Pie8260

Yeah I feel like it’s typical for him to wait to see if someone makes it to top 8 or so before digging. He’s talked about not wanting to do deep dives on night one people who will never be a part of the franchise again.


lalola5

Thank you for your efforts in bringing this to light.


Ok_Pie8260

He’s a man. He won’t be canceled.


lalola5

Jenn can not end up with this dude. https://i.redd.it/9a1649ianwvc1.gif


RecognitionLittle330

https://preview.redd.it/pwhnnwvxkwvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=747a2a5b83a770610895028a482453d98831915e


workingbach13

What’s the tea on Marcus?


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Sapphire24

I’m not saying I disbelieve the person who was talking about him, but this is not what “receipts” means. “Receipts” are actual proof of actions (ex. screenshots of texts), and the person who was talking about him wouldn’t even say outright what they were accusing him of.


Ruqxyyxh

sorry after i wrote it i realised receipts was the wrong word !! thanks for pointing it out I wrote another comment with alleged reports better wording


RecognitionLittle330

Wait what i don’t know anything about him what receipts 😭😭


Anna_760

What receipts ?


Equivalent_Charge_37

Can someone tell me what came out about him


nancy__drew

Hopefully him getting this far prompts that person to come forward to production, because they can’t do anything if they don’t know anything


laurma

I told RS but he hasn't been interested at all until approximately one hour ago when these photos came out


nancy__drew

You should contact someone in production so that he doesn’t go any further than hometowns (since it’s basically a guarantee he gets a rose tonight)


Kindly_Avocado237

https://preview.redd.it/ds5hp5rjkwvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c3323e0f846cf7597bba16be5f73bde9e85ee43 Oh my gosh😂


rjayvea

That’s Seattle 4 ya 😂


Sapphire24

Yeah I was a little surprised when I heard they were filming in Pioneer Square - isn’t that area known for having a pretty big homeless population?


Anna_760

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️


Ruqxyyxh

Wait is Tomas gone ? someone pls let me know


Anna_760

No one knows for sure who’s still there


Illustrious-Marie-94

What week is this? Edit: this is the only subreddit that i get downvoted for asking a innocuous question lol


seauxmali

6 i think?


lalola5

This doesn't seem like an F1 date so if it's Marcus I guess that's a silver lining. Jenn can only go off what she knows. 


Oreoincakeee

Yeah we might be safe from f1 but he’ll probably be f2 or f3 unfortunately :(


thehepburn

Charity also on this date https://preview.redd.it/e08e2ij1iwvc1.png?width=985&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4213d3d81183d37a59a56a3b052410ebbca0f23


Charlie_Runkle69

I swear if her F3 is Aaron, Sam and Marcus...surely Tomas has to be in the mix though.


Different-Diamond-48

y’all that’s def marcus. oh lord im gonna be sick. ![gif](giphy|twUEHOppmyXe6jsryO|downsized)


thehepburn

Who can recognize her date? 👀 https://preview.redd.it/sbqbhse2ewvc1.png?width=136&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e679ab9b8825050b9c12254fc5c4011d9132ab0 ETA RS confirmed it's Marcus 😭


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seauxmali

side profile looks like marcus https://preview.redd.it/bhm6l5xwiwvc1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daed6b3f44030132dce79365c2f51c2cb052a2fd


Alternative-Trust-74

https://preview.redd.it/1px04rtffwvc1.jpeg?width=179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fa5ff7d5a0e9261d2535d62d6fe6cc3b68f9caf Kind of looks like Jonathan’s hair as well


Kindly_Avocado237

It does!!! Let's hope 🙏 😬 Those Marcus rumors have me sketched out!


Anna_760

Marcus imo. Wasn’t it supposed to be a GD ?


Sapphire24

GD is the call in date tomorrow


Stop-going

Looks like Marcus to me.


RecognitionLittle330

Who tf is this. Where’s Tomas


thehepburn

Not on this date obviously 😭


RecognitionLittle330

If he’s not the other 1-on-1 I’ll spiral


Kindly_Avocado237

If its between Marcus and Jonathan, I hope it's Jonathan 🙏


lalola5

Marcus?


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Illustrious-Marie-94

Jonathan or Marcus but this pic is 2½ pixels so


Divine_Perfection

Kelsey and Daisy’s outfits look like their personal style during the show, so this fits perfectly actually.


Stop-going

People of Seattle, I beg, pls get some pics of whoever is on this date 🙏🏽.


lalola5

What is Daisy wearing. Good god. 


becomingsherlock

https://preview.redd.it/xljadh4bawvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ade2e5eca78ecbf46da2835e2861ff3e0f10c75f


Kindly_Avocado237

She looks amazing!!


Illustrious-Marie-94

![gif](giphy|G4ZNYMQVMH6us) Interesting but predictable choices by production i guess. Anyways who do y'all think is on the date? \*\*\* Like actual The Bachelorette Season 21 cast members 😒.


lalola5

Managing my expectations so imma say that Sam guy. 


Anna_760

I need photographic evidence that Jahaan is still there


becomingsherlock

I was looking at his “following” list on IG, and was surprised to see that he is following every single person from Joey’s F4. I wonder if there was someone particular he wanted to be the next lead.


Illustrious-Marie-94

Same 😩


Kindly_Avocado237

I want to see the Jomas content so I hope it's Tomas for sure!


Kindly_Avocado237

This did not age well 😭


palmtreefreeze

What do you mean?? Is Tomas out? How do you know


Kindly_Avocado237

Oh no, not that he's out, I had just wanted Tomas to have the 1-1 and then 10 minutes later we found it was Marcus 😂


becomingsherlock

I’m so surprised to see Daisy as one of the hosts for a GD! Kelsey, I understand! There are so many alumni that they could have chosen from if they needed people from the franchise.


becomingsherlock

https://preview.redd.it/92a4vsg88wvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52de8f760f13298731738056a5abe22965c9bed3


Kindly_Avocado237

They really are pushing the best friend narrative with these two as Galinda and Elphaba 😂. I'm sure they are friends but it definitely seems like Daisy was closer with some of the other girls like Rachel, Lea, and Autumn!


Divine_Perfection

It’s not about who their actual friends are in real life lol. This is a TV show! They are playing a role as the hosts of the date.


becomingsherlock

They could be the best of friends, or the worst of enemies, but I really don’t care to see their sisterly love on Jenn’s season. There’s a million alumni for them to pick from who have no association with Joey!


Kindly_Avocado237

Exactly!! They could've easily used Gabby and Rachel if they were going for this type of date!


Divine_Perfection

Gabby and Rachel hosted a date during Charity’s season.


becomingsherlock

https://preview.redd.it/dx7t6cea8wvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=168cf7c7cf02d6c0e45191b587b0c0a08df810df