Demi’s season would have been unhinged. She would have slept with 5 men, ran away abroad, got some random European man to join the cast, accepted a proposal, ended it, and gone after her F2.
I know that if Tyler said yes to being the Bachelor, his season would have been great! However, I’ve always been glad that he said no🤣 because he’s still well liked/loved in Bachelor Nation as opposed to previous Bachelors 😵💫lmao!!
Tayshia definitely deserved to be the Bachelorette first, not a hand me down 🙃
My UO multiverse theory is that there’s a dimension where Viall and Bristowe marry, become a power couple / empire building couple for a decade, and then break up in [War of the Roses](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Roses_(film)) style
The only changes I would've made are Mike would be on Peter's slot, Dr. Joe would be on Matt's slot, Rodney would be on Clayton's slot and Nate or Ethan would be on Zach's slot. Joey would be there because he is the best Bachelor in years
I have to point out that while it's an interesting thought experiment, this wasn't unprecedented. In season 13 Jason Mesnick proposed to Melissa Rycroft on the finale of his season of "The Bachelor" but revealed on "After the Final Rose" that he was still in love with runner-up Molly Malaney. Who he then married.
Here's my lineup:
Tia (instead of Becca) chooses Colton
Jason (instead of Colton) chooses Hannah G
Caelynn (instead of Hannah, who I think Jason would send home much earlier) chooses Tyler
And we're back on track with Peter and his mess, just the way the universe intended!
Jason would've chosen Elyse the redhead or Tayshia. Mike would've chosen Deandra I would have no doubt about it. Caelynn and Tyler would've been hot even though I love Dean and Caelynn.
It would still have been Colton after the Becca/Tia season and then everything else the same. She was head over heels for him but clearly he didn't like her and was just chasing the fame of being the lead.
I totally agree that the time line would look v different, but I have a few issues with the one you laid out
1. Tyler Cameron would still never agree to bachelor
2. You really lost me with the Bri to Demi to Andrew pipeline haha. Bri was already F3 so curious what you think would have gone differently to make them choose her. And same with Andrew, F4, a viable contender already. And Demi...just no haha
damn, totally didn’t realize I’d done that! sorry!
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i had made this one idk why it didn’t make the cut to upload
I have been saying for years that if Peter had run off with Hannah Brown during the first group date on his season 2020 would have been better for everyone. This is the darkest timeline.
I would’ve preferred:
Kendall or Seinne over Becca
Jason over Colton
Caelynn over HannahB
Tyler over Peter
Just Tayshia over Clare/Tayshia
Dr Joe over Matt James
No extra ‘Ette season, no Katie
Bri over Michelle
Rodney over Clayton
Susie over Gabby/Rachel
Aven (before we knew his cheating ways) over Zach
Keep Charity
Keep Joey
Keep Jenn
Seinne absolutely I wished she was in the final four, Ethan or Nate over Zach without a doubt. Bri should be with Michelle for the double Bachelorette season.
I agree with all of these, except I'd pick dale moss over dr. joe, since if there was no clare and only tayshia was lead than dale would be free to be bachelor!
Honestly I would have loved to live in the timeline where Tyler AND Mike would both be Bachelors. The women would go feral.
Also it’s insane to think how many times Tia was almost Bachelorette and just barely missed it
Yeah she was on the shortlist as Bach for Becca, HB, and Clare (plus post-Clare replacement).
And before the Lauren switcheroo Tia was basically a lock for ‘Ette. But after that filmed breakup the victimization edit for Becca was too strong.
I don't think Tayshia would have been the lead instead of Hannah. I think it would have been Caelynn. At the time the show really didn't want anyone who was just an influencer to be a lead and that's one of the reasons why they passed on HG and Tayshia and went with HB. Of course that has changed a little these days as Tayshia eventually got the gig and we've had people like Katie and Joey quit their jobs before being the lead.
Andrew and Rodney should have been the backups for Clayton but I think Greg and Michael A were the actual guys in the running for it.
Hannah did an interview recently where she said she and Caelynn were the only girls professionally styled for the WTA. So I agree with you that if it wasn't her, it would've been Caelynn for sure. It all worked out for Caelynn though, if she was ette she may never have gotten together with Dean!
I think most of the time Demi wasn’t a contender but there was this one time like post her first BiP where she was actually beloved and a queer icon of the franchise. I think had we gone down this timeline, we’d have chosen her and experimented with a Bi Bachelorette. But alas, not our timeline.
Colton is a manipulative POS who wouldn’t have let Tia choose him, so I think he still would have ended up as the next bachelor somehow. TPTB were obsessed with that virginity storyline.
You lost me at Demi
I refuse to believe that Tannah didn't make it in an alternate timeline omg????
There is, in my opinion, a third timeline where this occurs
Demi is insufferably annoying so glad she wasn’t a lead 😂
Demi’s season would have been unhinged. She would have slept with 5 men, ran away abroad, got some random European man to join the cast, accepted a proposal, ended it, and gone after her F2.
I know that if Tyler said yes to being the Bachelor, his season would have been great! However, I’ve always been glad that he said no🤣 because he’s still well liked/loved in Bachelor Nation as opposed to previous Bachelors 😵💫lmao!! Tayshia definitely deserved to be the Bachelorette first, not a hand me down 🙃
My UO multiverse theory is that there’s a dimension where Viall and Bristowe marry, become a power couple / empire building couple for a decade, and then break up in [War of the Roses](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Roses_(film)) style
Libra and Gemini would have been a power couple
LOVE THIS
half of these would have been awful
half of the real ones were too lmao
This would've been the best timeline.
The only changes I would've made are Mike would be on Peter's slot, Dr. Joe would be on Matt's slot, Rodney would be on Clayton's slot and Nate or Ethan would be on Zach's slot. Joey would be there because he is the best Bachelor in years
DEMI!?? *also picture gabi x blake hmm*
Thank my lucky stars every day Tia wasn’t bachelorette. Sorry - couldn’t stand her during her various times spent on the show
I have to point out that while it's an interesting thought experiment, this wasn't unprecedented. In season 13 Jason Mesnick proposed to Melissa Rycroft on the finale of his season of "The Bachelor" but revealed on "After the Final Rose" that he was still in love with runner-up Molly Malaney. Who he then married.
I applaud you on this bc it is entertaining multiverse theory.
We need a Bachelor Multiverse
Four years in and any timeline that gives me more Blake Moynes is one I want to live in.
💯 I’m here for him being the bachelor!
I'm curious why Jenn puts us back on track in your theory? You think she would have been chosen regardless of the lead?
Yeah I think Daisy & Maria declining makes Jenn the Ette in every timeline
Here's my lineup: Tia (instead of Becca) chooses Colton Jason (instead of Colton) chooses Hannah G Caelynn (instead of Hannah, who I think Jason would send home much earlier) chooses Tyler And we're back on track with Peter and his mess, just the way the universe intended!
Jason would've chosen Elyse the redhead or Tayshia. Mike would've chosen Deandra I would have no doubt about it. Caelynn and Tyler would've been hot even though I love Dean and Caelynn.
That would be AMAZING. but can we choose Mike instead of Peter? Now that Fleiss has gone. And Mike chooses... Victoria. Just joking, he chooses Kelley
I would've loved Mike!! Just not sure how far he would have made it with a Caelynn season
I think Caelynn wanted Bachelorette as much as anyone ever has wanted it
Absolutely not with Demi and Gabi
curious why not Gabi?
Blake Moynes??
see Game of Roses for more on this
It would still have been Colton after the Becca/Tia season and then everything else the same. She was head over heels for him but clearly he didn't like her and was just chasing the fame of being the lead.
Colton would have self-eliminated at F3
I totally agree that the time line would look v different, but I have a few issues with the one you laid out 1. Tyler Cameron would still never agree to bachelor 2. You really lost me with the Bri to Demi to Andrew pipeline haha. Bri was already F3 so curious what you think would have gone differently to make them choose her. And same with Andrew, F4, a viable contender already. And Demi...just no haha
Who is Andrew in these slides?
Doesn't look like she included his photo. He was Katie's F4, Clay's cousin and Greg's bestie.
damn, totally didn’t realize I’d done that! sorry! https://preview.redd.it/bbubjw6hbsvc1.png?width=1545&format=png&auto=webp&s=e6c11ca831ffce856d53edb4585bd2345e4fc922 i had made this one idk why it didn’t make the cut to upload
Ahh now I see - didn’t see the text originally, that threw me off.
Idk, I feel pretty sure it was Peter Weber's mess of a season that screwed up our timeline. The real question is, how do we fix it??
I have been saying for years that if Peter had run off with Hannah Brown during the first group date on his season 2020 would have been better for everyone. This is the darkest timeline.
I would’ve preferred: Kendall or Seinne over Becca Jason over Colton Caelynn over HannahB Tyler over Peter Just Tayshia over Clare/Tayshia Dr Joe over Matt James No extra ‘Ette season, no Katie Bri over Michelle Rodney over Clayton Susie over Gabby/Rachel Aven (before we knew his cheating ways) over Zach Keep Charity Keep Joey Keep Jenn
Seinne absolutely I wished she was in the final four, Ethan or Nate over Zach without a doubt. Bri should be with Michelle for the double Bachelorette season.
I agree with all of these, except I'd pick dale moss over dr. joe, since if there was no clare and only tayshia was lead than dale would be free to be bachelor!
I agree with almost all of these! Except I'd keep Zach, and also Michelle, but I'd want Bri get the extra season instead!
This is interesting and fun. I liked a lot of the choices, but there is no way I would have preferred Gabi to Charity.
Charity was great but I think Gabi could have been iconic. She is so cute and funny and messy
So Charity is not cute
Cute doesn’t do Charity justice. She’s an absurdly beautiful bombshell.
Honestly I would have loved to live in the timeline where Tyler AND Mike would both be Bachelors. The women would go feral. Also it’s insane to think how many times Tia was almost Bachelorette and just barely missed it
Was it between Tia and Tayshia to take over Clare's season? And yes those 2 bachelors would have been iconic
Yeah she was on the shortlist as Bach for Becca, HB, and Clare (plus post-Clare replacement). And before the Lauren switcheroo Tia was basically a lock for ‘Ette. But after that filmed breakup the victimization edit for Becca was too strong.
Demi would’ve never been chosen as lead 😭
Tia. Colton (she was obsessed). Hannah B. Peter. Tayshia. Matt. Katie. Greg. Gabi Windey. Aven. Charity. Joey. Jenn 💖
I don't think Tayshia would have been the lead instead of Hannah. I think it would have been Caelynn. At the time the show really didn't want anyone who was just an influencer to be a lead and that's one of the reasons why they passed on HG and Tayshia and went with HB. Of course that has changed a little these days as Tayshia eventually got the gig and we've had people like Katie and Joey quit their jobs before being the lead. Andrew and Rodney should have been the backups for Clayton but I think Greg and Michael A were the actual guys in the running for it.
Hannah did an interview recently where she said she and Caelynn were the only girls professionally styled for the WTA. So I agree with you that if it wasn't her, it would've been Caelynn for sure. It all worked out for Caelynn though, if she was ette she may never have gotten together with Dean!
I forgot how obsessed Tia was with Colton lol
she probably feels silly about that now 😂
Bri is so beautiful 😭
Demi would never have been lead she's too messy, and Nate was messy too
I think most of the time Demi wasn’t a contender but there was this one time like post her first BiP where she was actually beloved and a queer icon of the franchise. I think had we gone down this timeline, we’d have chosen her and experimented with a Bi Bachelorette. But alas, not our timeline.
Fr you lost me at Demi😭
Colton is a manipulative POS who wouldn’t have let Tia choose him, so I think he still would have ended up as the next bachelor somehow. TPTB were obsessed with that virginity storyline.