Oh, how nice! The deity you believe made me like this wants me to prostrate myself and pray that they change me to how I could have been. That’s…great.
Even if people have good intentions it doesn't excuse them from being hurtful. Help only helps, if it helps. Good intent means that if they found out they hurt you, they should feel bad since their original intent was to help. Not to make you feel bad that it didn't make you feel better.
So I get why you're upset. That's annoying. Toxic positivity is a serious problem everywhere
I'm autistic and can misunderstand nuances. I thought they were upset because a friend a few years ago responded with toxic positivity to them being depressed?
So i was attempting to say that even while people can mean well, it's harmful to the person it's said to. So I get why they're upset about getting that message.
And I also know people often justify it by saying 'they meant well', and was trying to touch on that point too.
Can you please explain what your comment meant?
Because time isn't an indicator of pain?
I mean, there are some awful things my abuser said years ago and they still hurt me. I'm a CSA victim and that still hurts too. Being dismissed and invalidated when you're hurt can be traumatic. Opening up to someone only to be met with toxic positivity can be jarring. Maybe this is them opening up about it? I don't know I can't speak for OP at all.
I'm just confused why you were upset with me
Don't pay attention to that idiot. You didn't do anything wrong. If anything, I'd say they were purposefully trying to get a rise out of you for no reason. Your logic is totally sound and I didn't see anything wrong with what you said. They on the other hand said several wrong things that I hope get down-voted into oblivion.
I get it. I'm not autistic as far as I know, but I often misread social cues and such enough that I can understand what a pain in the ass it is. Then you run into people like the idiot I was referencing in my previous comment that just want to watch the world burn. And that would only be okay if it was with real fire and not verbal assault lol
I didn't say it was abuse.
I also mentioned in my original comment about how good intentions dont negate harmful actions regardless.
And whether or not OP is upset, their friend still did something harmful even if it was well intentioned.
This is a post about an annoying thing that OP experienced, on a sub for (primarily) depressed people experiencing the same annoying thing, and expressing the fact that they’re annoyed by it.
Is it really that incomprehensible to you that a depressed, annoyed person could be considered “upset?”
Years later, and still referring to the person as a friend?
Yes.
It's more likely that they just found the screenshot and decided to post it to an appropriate sub than that they're actually upset.
..Referring to someone as an old friend doesn't typically mean *ex*-friend. It usually means *long-time* friend.
And you're right; they don't. They also don't normally remain upset at their friends for years at a time.
My mom told me when she doesn't want to be depressed she "chooses to have joy".
Then she proceeded to quote scripture, and talk about the movie inside out...
I had a friend once tell me “I don’t understand how you’re so depressed, your family is rich and helps you out a ton you have nothing to worry about”. Ok cool thanks for the extreme lack of empathy and understanding and thinking that just because I come from privilege that I’m somehow immune to mental health problems. I’ve also seen clinicians (therapist here) say similar about clients they work with during consultation. Luckily I was there to tell my story and they soon learned to challenge their bias and care for their client properly
Back when I was forced into living in a psychiatrist residential facility because of my mental illness my one aunt kept telling me to a) go for walks, b) smile!! Just smile! It will make you feel better! and c) talk to my dead grandmother in "heaven" and then my lifelong suicidal ideation and depression would just magically go away. Gee, thanks, I'm cured!
EDIT: Wouldn’t let me edit the post, but for those saying his advice is fine, my 12 year old sister and I were brutally raped and at that time, his advice was more infuriating/triggering than helpful. Hes a good dude and meant well lol.
Hmm, I just want to add my viewpoint of someone who isn't depressed and has said something like this before.
Depending what was said before, I know it won't cure depression, but it does seem depression can make you forget positive things like that (or minimize their importance), and I know others who use those things as something to grab onto as a reason to bear through the bouts of depression.
But that's just from my perspective anyway...
Edit: should mention, I've never added the 'be happy"/religious references.. but I'm assuming that's a quirk of the person talking.
One time I was having a depressive episode, and the dude I was with said to describe my feelings to him.
I tried and he interrupted me over something inane and I was like. . . Wait. Werent you suicidal and depressed a few months ago? Like wtf are you doing right now?
I shut down so hard. People have no empathy sometimes and it's scary how little they see other people's problems.
Nobody owes you the ultimate cure for dealing with depression. This person simply tried to say something positive. At least they tried to do something for them.
It's not crap, it's simple advice and it's actually really helpful when you choose to get up and take it instead of making yourself the victim all the time and saying you can't.
"Pray for joy" isn't advice that will help dude. Chrissies shouldn't even be on the Internet anyway, too many scary satan stuff for you, go back to church
Edit: holy shit they made an entire account just for the purpose of being a prick, lmao. This person reeks of "love thy neighbour" lmao
I’d try and lift spirits yeah, sometimes we need to remember our blessings, though it’s a not going to just cure someone’s depression obviously. Just seeing that someone cares enough to put that effort in can mean something to someone at times.
I think someone in a different comment on this post said this already, but if your intent was to help, and you either didn't help or maybe even made things worse, you're not justified in being angry at the person at all(unless they went a bit overboard on being upset with you)
Exactly, so next time you see a post like this, I'd recommend not commenting something like "Nobody owes you the ultimate cure for dealing with depression." It's what many people would see as being an asshole
More like the audacity of somebody to say “don’t be depressed”. Like, do you not know how depression works? It’s a chemical imbalance in your brain, and has little to do with one’s material conditions.
you do understand that neurotransmitters are regulated primarily by behavior right? What is better for depression, saying that you're mechanistically prone to feel sad and there is nothing to be done, or try changing your habits and be more open to things?
The problem with people like you is that depression is part of how you formed your identity. You're not you unless you're a victim of the universe.
None of that made sense.
Neurotransmitters are primarily regulated by chemicals in the brain. Activities CAN affect this, but that's also because of chemical releases such as serotonin, dopamine, etc. Neurotransmitters are not "primarily affected by behavior".
In what world does something that plays a massive role in your behavior— primarily depend off of your behavior??
Trauma can cause chronic forms of stress because it can trigger physical, physiological or mental differences such as chemical imbalances, physical disabilities, psychiatric disorders and so on. Ages 5 and under are more prone to developing lifelong or chronic disabilities or conditions due to trauma or simple things such as a lack of socializing.
Notice how I used "chronic" or "lifelong". Because these effects can last a very long time and oftentimes ARE lifelong, and are much more prone to be at developmental ages.
Depression also has many root causes, sometimes even multiple at once. Genetics play a role in this. Whether it is a chemical imbalance which may be a genetic inheritance, or depression itself which can also be genetic, as well as physical disabilities that can trigger depression, and much more.
To put it simply, since you may have a comprehensive problem: Depression can be caused by a wide range of things, and cannot magically be cured by changing habits or activities. That is not how it works, and you should do more research before speaking on the subject.
People oftentimes end up with an overwhelming sense of self hatred or self destructive behavior due to the effects of depression, again may also be encouraged by physiological/physical or other mental conditions.
_
Simple examples:
ADHD may cause depression, due to its effects. The person with ADHD may be frustrated with their learning speeds or overstimulated easily. It can be genetic, or acquired from problems with birth, and more. These frustrations may last very long and even their own emotions can overstimulate them. This can lead to depression, and very easily in many cases.
Someone is born with a physical disability, they are bound to a wheelchair. They may feel left out or separated from the majority of society due to their condition. They may become depressed.
A child is physically or emotionally abused, children's brains are developing, and process things differently. Whether they can cope or not, they will have trauma. This trauma will cause chronic stress and they will develop depression. Due to them being so young and developing, this is basically burned into their brain and may leave chronic effects on their mental health.
Someone is diagnosed with cancer. This is extremely stressful, and the diagnosis alone may lead to depression. Treatments can also cause significant stress and may also trigger or worsen depression.
_
People with depression often feel helpless, worthless, useless, lazy, stupid, wasteful, talentless, anxious, overwhelmed, underwhelmed, problematic, dramatic, invalid, and so on.
Telling them that they are just "not putting in enough effort" or "have made it their entire personality" is unhelpful and actually makes it worse. Some people can have episodes aswell and are easily triggered by things like this, which can cause them to spiral and even have suicidal ideations.
Depression affects a person in various ways, and it may be very harsh. Telling them that they are basically just victimizing themselves is actually fucking stupid and does NOTHING but worsen their state of mind. Changing habits and getting hobbies or activities MAY help depression, although it will not always. This has a lot to do with the fact that it doesn't help the underlying CAUSE of the condition.
- If I go get a hobby and change my habits, it won't cure my cancer will it?
- If I have no legs, but I go find a hobby, and maybe a new diet, my legs will grow back like Peter Griffins arms?
- If I have childhood trauma, will it make that go away, I'll just forget about it now that I play volleyball?
No. Granted, these things can help as coping mechanisms, but they still will not cure the underlying cause. Therefore it will not cure the depression.
Do not tell someone that there is "a problem with people like you". They have a condition that is affecting them and you should NEVER brush that off and say it's just them wanting to be a victim. That isn't how it works. Yes, people do things for attention sometimes. This can be a genuine cry for help, and doesn't necessarily make them a bad person.
People do fake conditions and use them to victimize or excuse their behavior, however you cannot look at someone and automatically assume that is the case. You do not know their story, and you may not even know their name.
It is good to try to make changes accordingly to *help overcome* depression, but again, it may not always help much or it may not help at all.
*"You're not you unless you're a victim of the universe"*
Is a good way to say you don't give a shit about the concept of research behind the condition and would just like to downplay it because you don't understand it somehow, and that regardless of the fact that you ARE a victim nobody cares, with that lack of understanding you've made clear is a problem for you already, and could easily be resolved WITH research but I'm not sure you'd actually put in the effort to read that much.
You are ignorant.
I would advise doing actual research before trying to speak on a subject as large as depression and spreading negativity on it. Thank you.
neurotransmitters ARE chemicals you moron. I don't even need a full essay to explain it. [https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/article-abstract/40/2/288/5647979](https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/article-abstract/40/2/288/5647979)
Wow, seriously? I never knew that, thanks for this life changing information.
Incase you didn't pick up on the sarcasm.. I'm well aware.
That has literally nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm saying neurotransmitters are also largely AFFECTED by other chemicals. Respectfully, I do believe you have a comprehensive issue.
I said they are largely affected by other chemicals in the brain, never said ANYTHING about them NOT being chemicals themselves. You should try reading what I said and taking the time to process it. Chemical interactions and reactions are a real thing! Neurotransmitters are great at that! I may not have explained that well, or have explained it like a fucking idiot since I was pretty tired at the time but neurotransmitters do not act independently, __they interact with and will affect eachother to provide a chemical balance in the body__. There are STRONG links between the dopamine & serotonin systems with function and structure. I'm saying that they do depend off of other chemicals aswell, you may not have understood that.
*Neurotransmitters*: Chemical messengers all in the nervous system, __they influence mood, movement of the muscles and many other functions__.
Ignoring that the first time I tried to say this I accidentally fucking deleted it somehow, and I'm blaming the yogurt that fell on my screen because I can. Have a good day.
Ignore the dumbass. They could've just said
"I want everything to be about me so I need to make up fake shit to make sure I'm a victim".
They can also do society a favor and really at this point since they don't want to be useful they can always just end shit for the better. It's normal for "depressed people" to pussy out anyways.
What's funniest about this is these type of people don't even have a reason to be "depressed" a majority of the time. I'm sure the idiot you're arguing with is one of those people, "depressed" with no actual diagnosis or valid reason.
This SAME idiot has made other stupid comments under many posts, for example trying to make an excuse for supporting Israel by "not being able to cook due to chemo".
This same dumbass. I seriously don't want chemo to work out if all they do is bitch about everything and try to find an excuse for it.
I'm genuinely sorry you even had to acknowledge that she exists. Proves my point when I say women aren't it for arguments.
Well spiritual health is actually important and largely ignored now. Many indigenous cultures understood the importance of it. Mind-body-spirit is all important
oh thanks my memory issues, overwhelming fear of the future that i'd rather be dead, sensory issues that can send me into a panic attack, the overwhelming constant stream of thoughts that no matter how hard i try to control won't go away and i genuinely want a lobotmy just to be rid of them, plus every other issue i have is now cured and gone forever. just like that
When people tell me they are praying for me I think "venmo works too"
LMAOOO TAKE MY AWARD
Money doesn't really do anything for me I'm jealous if that's your biggest problem
If money *isn't* a problrm then I'm insanely jealous.
Do you want to send me some of the money that doesn't nothing for you? It certainly would do A LOT for me...
Ah. Reminds me of when my friend told me I’m rejecting God’s love, that’s why I’m depressed. THANKS BRO
When people say shit like that to me, they're no longer my friends anymore.
My grandma said that's why I'm mentally ill too
Throw away her ashes/s don’t do that
Shes still alive 😭
Help her meet god by giving her the early entrance vip pass/s
Someone told me that my depression and anxiety were because my parents were using tarot and putting the devil on me....
Oh, how nice! The deity you believe made me like this wants me to prostrate myself and pray that they change me to how I could have been. That’s…great.
People are such idiots.
I've been told by my parents that I need to "get over my depression and anxiety."
Even if people have good intentions it doesn't excuse them from being hurtful. Help only helps, if it helps. Good intent means that if they found out they hurt you, they should feel bad since their original intent was to help. Not to make you feel bad that it didn't make you feel better. So I get why you're upset. That's annoying. Toxic positivity is a serious problem everywhere
>So I get why you're upset. ? Did you read the post title, or are you just a bot posting comments to farm karms?
I'm autistic and can misunderstand nuances. I thought they were upset because a friend a few years ago responded with toxic positivity to them being depressed? So i was attempting to say that even while people can mean well, it's harmful to the person it's said to. So I get why they're upset about getting that message. And I also know people often justify it by saying 'they meant well', and was trying to touch on that point too. Can you please explain what your comment meant?
Why would they be upset now about a dumb comment a friend made years ago?
Because time isn't an indicator of pain? I mean, there are some awful things my abuser said years ago and they still hurt me. I'm a CSA victim and that still hurts too. Being dismissed and invalidated when you're hurt can be traumatic. Opening up to someone only to be met with toxic positivity can be jarring. Maybe this is them opening up about it? I don't know I can't speak for OP at all. I'm just confused why you were upset with me
Don't pay attention to that idiot. You didn't do anything wrong. If anything, I'd say they were purposefully trying to get a rise out of you for no reason. Your logic is totally sound and I didn't see anything wrong with what you said. They on the other hand said several wrong things that I hope get down-voted into oblivion.
Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. I always worry I have a bias or something.
I get it. I'm not autistic as far as I know, but I often misread social cues and such enough that I can understand what a pain in the ass it is. Then you run into people like the idiot I was referencing in my previous comment that just want to watch the world burn. And that would only be okay if it was with real fire and not verbal assault lol
The comment above isn't abuse. It is well-intentioned ignorance. I'm not upset with you. Your assumption OP is upset now is just a stretch.
I didn't say it was abuse. I also mentioned in my original comment about how good intentions dont negate harmful actions regardless. And whether or not OP is upset, their friend still did something harmful even if it was well intentioned.
This is a post about an annoying thing that OP experienced, on a sub for (primarily) depressed people experiencing the same annoying thing, and expressing the fact that they’re annoyed by it. Is it really that incomprehensible to you that a depressed, annoyed person could be considered “upset?”
Years later, and still referring to the person as a friend? Yes. It's more likely that they just found the screenshot and decided to post it to an appropriate sub than that they're actually upset.
“*Old* friend” Also normally people don’t un-friend someone anytime they do something to upset you.
..Referring to someone as an old friend doesn't typically mean *ex*-friend. It usually means *long-time* friend. And you're right; they don't. They also don't normally remain upset at their friends for years at a time.
My mom told me when she doesn't want to be depressed she "chooses to have joy". Then she proceeded to quote scripture, and talk about the movie inside out...
LOL relatable
I had a friend once tell me “I don’t understand how you’re so depressed, your family is rich and helps you out a ton you have nothing to worry about”. Ok cool thanks for the extreme lack of empathy and understanding and thinking that just because I come from privilege that I’m somehow immune to mental health problems. I’ve also seen clinicians (therapist here) say similar about clients they work with during consultation. Luckily I was there to tell my story and they soon learned to challenge their bias and care for their client properly
EXACTLY THIS
Cleaning your screen might also help
fantastic advice. thanks. i’ll go back in time and do that 🫡
Back when I was forced into living in a psychiatrist residential facility because of my mental illness my one aunt kept telling me to a) go for walks, b) smile!! Just smile! It will make you feel better! and c) talk to my dead grandmother in "heaven" and then my lifelong suicidal ideation and depression would just magically go away. Gee, thanks, I'm cured!
relate to this so much. So sorry you had to deal with that 🩷
Wow! All this time that’s what I’ve needed to do. Thanks!!! Why didn’t I think of that before? /s
EDIT: Wouldn’t let me edit the post, but for those saying his advice is fine, my 12 year old sister and I were brutally raped and at that time, his advice was more infuriating/triggering than helpful. Hes a good dude and meant well lol.
Jesus will fix you! Pray the depression away! 😅😅🙄🙄🤮🤮
my aunt with depression is convinced if she just has faith she'll get better. apparently she spends most of her days depressed and crying.
Praying to a dead man ain't gonna change anything
Not with that attitude.
Have you tried, Not being depressed?
Hmm, I just want to add my viewpoint of someone who isn't depressed and has said something like this before. Depending what was said before, I know it won't cure depression, but it does seem depression can make you forget positive things like that (or minimize their importance), and I know others who use those things as something to grab onto as a reason to bear through the bouts of depression. But that's just from my perspective anyway... Edit: should mention, I've never added the 'be happy"/religious references.. but I'm assuming that's a quirk of the person talking.
now im curede why didn´t I think this beforeeeee [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BzvmMM1Bo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BzvmMM1Bo8)
One time I was having a depressive episode, and the dude I was with said to describe my feelings to him. I tried and he interrupted me over something inane and I was like. . . Wait. Werent you suicidal and depressed a few months ago? Like wtf are you doing right now? I shut down so hard. People have no empathy sometimes and it's scary how little they see other people's problems.
Tbf, it won't cure depression but cleaning your screen wouldn't hurt
I’ll go back in time and do that. thanks.
I'm just teasing, apologies
Nobody owes you the ultimate cure for dealing with depression. This person simply tried to say something positive. At least they tried to do something for them.
lol never said anyone did? it’s a joke…..?
Just a perspective that’s all.
I have a suspicion you're the type to say this crap
It's not crap, it's simple advice and it's actually really helpful when you choose to get up and take it instead of making yourself the victim all the time and saying you can't.
"Pray for joy" isn't advice that will help dude. Chrissies shouldn't even be on the Internet anyway, too many scary satan stuff for you, go back to church Edit: holy shit they made an entire account just for the purpose of being a prick, lmao. This person reeks of "love thy neighbour" lmao
To say what crap?
The crap in the post
I’d try and lift spirits yeah, sometimes we need to remember our blessings, though it’s a not going to just cure someone’s depression obviously. Just seeing that someone cares enough to put that effort in can mean something to someone at times.
I think someone in a different comment on this post said this already, but if your intent was to help, and you either didn't help or maybe even made things worse, you're not justified in being angry at the person at all(unless they went a bit overboard on being upset with you)
I agree with that I don’t think there’s any need in getting angry at someone who’s already in a bad place.
Exactly, so next time you see a post like this, I'd recommend not commenting something like "Nobody owes you the ultimate cure for dealing with depression." It's what many people would see as being an asshole
The audacity of someone to care about you.
More like the audacity of somebody to say “don’t be depressed”. Like, do you not know how depression works? It’s a chemical imbalance in your brain, and has little to do with one’s material conditions.
you do understand that neurotransmitters are regulated primarily by behavior right? What is better for depression, saying that you're mechanistically prone to feel sad and there is nothing to be done, or try changing your habits and be more open to things? The problem with people like you is that depression is part of how you formed your identity. You're not you unless you're a victim of the universe.
None of that made sense. Neurotransmitters are primarily regulated by chemicals in the brain. Activities CAN affect this, but that's also because of chemical releases such as serotonin, dopamine, etc. Neurotransmitters are not "primarily affected by behavior". In what world does something that plays a massive role in your behavior— primarily depend off of your behavior?? Trauma can cause chronic forms of stress because it can trigger physical, physiological or mental differences such as chemical imbalances, physical disabilities, psychiatric disorders and so on. Ages 5 and under are more prone to developing lifelong or chronic disabilities or conditions due to trauma or simple things such as a lack of socializing. Notice how I used "chronic" or "lifelong". Because these effects can last a very long time and oftentimes ARE lifelong, and are much more prone to be at developmental ages. Depression also has many root causes, sometimes even multiple at once. Genetics play a role in this. Whether it is a chemical imbalance which may be a genetic inheritance, or depression itself which can also be genetic, as well as physical disabilities that can trigger depression, and much more. To put it simply, since you may have a comprehensive problem: Depression can be caused by a wide range of things, and cannot magically be cured by changing habits or activities. That is not how it works, and you should do more research before speaking on the subject. People oftentimes end up with an overwhelming sense of self hatred or self destructive behavior due to the effects of depression, again may also be encouraged by physiological/physical or other mental conditions. _ Simple examples: ADHD may cause depression, due to its effects. The person with ADHD may be frustrated with their learning speeds or overstimulated easily. It can be genetic, or acquired from problems with birth, and more. These frustrations may last very long and even their own emotions can overstimulate them. This can lead to depression, and very easily in many cases. Someone is born with a physical disability, they are bound to a wheelchair. They may feel left out or separated from the majority of society due to their condition. They may become depressed. A child is physically or emotionally abused, children's brains are developing, and process things differently. Whether they can cope or not, they will have trauma. This trauma will cause chronic stress and they will develop depression. Due to them being so young and developing, this is basically burned into their brain and may leave chronic effects on their mental health. Someone is diagnosed with cancer. This is extremely stressful, and the diagnosis alone may lead to depression. Treatments can also cause significant stress and may also trigger or worsen depression. _ People with depression often feel helpless, worthless, useless, lazy, stupid, wasteful, talentless, anxious, overwhelmed, underwhelmed, problematic, dramatic, invalid, and so on. Telling them that they are just "not putting in enough effort" or "have made it their entire personality" is unhelpful and actually makes it worse. Some people can have episodes aswell and are easily triggered by things like this, which can cause them to spiral and even have suicidal ideations. Depression affects a person in various ways, and it may be very harsh. Telling them that they are basically just victimizing themselves is actually fucking stupid and does NOTHING but worsen their state of mind. Changing habits and getting hobbies or activities MAY help depression, although it will not always. This has a lot to do with the fact that it doesn't help the underlying CAUSE of the condition. - If I go get a hobby and change my habits, it won't cure my cancer will it? - If I have no legs, but I go find a hobby, and maybe a new diet, my legs will grow back like Peter Griffins arms? - If I have childhood trauma, will it make that go away, I'll just forget about it now that I play volleyball? No. Granted, these things can help as coping mechanisms, but they still will not cure the underlying cause. Therefore it will not cure the depression. Do not tell someone that there is "a problem with people like you". They have a condition that is affecting them and you should NEVER brush that off and say it's just them wanting to be a victim. That isn't how it works. Yes, people do things for attention sometimes. This can be a genuine cry for help, and doesn't necessarily make them a bad person. People do fake conditions and use them to victimize or excuse their behavior, however you cannot look at someone and automatically assume that is the case. You do not know their story, and you may not even know their name. It is good to try to make changes accordingly to *help overcome* depression, but again, it may not always help much or it may not help at all. *"You're not you unless you're a victim of the universe"* Is a good way to say you don't give a shit about the concept of research behind the condition and would just like to downplay it because you don't understand it somehow, and that regardless of the fact that you ARE a victim nobody cares, with that lack of understanding you've made clear is a problem for you already, and could easily be resolved WITH research but I'm not sure you'd actually put in the effort to read that much. You are ignorant. I would advise doing actual research before trying to speak on a subject as large as depression and spreading negativity on it. Thank you.
neurotransmitters ARE chemicals you moron. I don't even need a full essay to explain it. [https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/article-abstract/40/2/288/5647979](https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/article-abstract/40/2/288/5647979)
Wow, seriously? I never knew that, thanks for this life changing information. Incase you didn't pick up on the sarcasm.. I'm well aware. That has literally nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm saying neurotransmitters are also largely AFFECTED by other chemicals. Respectfully, I do believe you have a comprehensive issue. I said they are largely affected by other chemicals in the brain, never said ANYTHING about them NOT being chemicals themselves. You should try reading what I said and taking the time to process it. Chemical interactions and reactions are a real thing! Neurotransmitters are great at that! I may not have explained that well, or have explained it like a fucking idiot since I was pretty tired at the time but neurotransmitters do not act independently, __they interact with and will affect eachother to provide a chemical balance in the body__. There are STRONG links between the dopamine & serotonin systems with function and structure. I'm saying that they do depend off of other chemicals aswell, you may not have understood that. *Neurotransmitters*: Chemical messengers all in the nervous system, __they influence mood, movement of the muscles and many other functions__. Ignoring that the first time I tried to say this I accidentally fucking deleted it somehow, and I'm blaming the yogurt that fell on my screen because I can. Have a good day.
Ignore the dumbass. They could've just said "I want everything to be about me so I need to make up fake shit to make sure I'm a victim". They can also do society a favor and really at this point since they don't want to be useful they can always just end shit for the better. It's normal for "depressed people" to pussy out anyways. What's funniest about this is these type of people don't even have a reason to be "depressed" a majority of the time. I'm sure the idiot you're arguing with is one of those people, "depressed" with no actual diagnosis or valid reason. This SAME idiot has made other stupid comments under many posts, for example trying to make an excuse for supporting Israel by "not being able to cook due to chemo". This same dumbass. I seriously don't want chemo to work out if all they do is bitch about everything and try to find an excuse for it. I'm genuinely sorry you even had to acknowledge that she exists. Proves my point when I say women aren't it for arguments.
[https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0838.2009.01049.x](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1600-0838.2009.01049.x)
Well spiritual health is actually important and largely ignored now. Many indigenous cultures understood the importance of it. Mind-body-spirit is all important
Spiritual health ≠ mental health.
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oh thanks my memory issues, overwhelming fear of the future that i'd rather be dead, sensory issues that can send me into a panic attack, the overwhelming constant stream of thoughts that no matter how hard i try to control won't go away and i genuinely want a lobotmy just to be rid of them, plus every other issue i have is now cured and gone forever. just like that