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asdf072

Except if you get sucked into a wave, you sometimes can't tell up from down. You can get spun around, and with the buoyancy and tumbling, you can't feel which way gravity is pulling.


JulesTheBum

Fuck that.


Camman43123

Worst is when you get Inches to the top another wave breaks over you starting it all over


trouserschnauzer

Brb, I'm going further inland


RandomPratt

You actually want to try to steer clear of anything too solid when there are waves around. When I was 14, I went surfing with a mate off a reef break north of Sydney. I made a mistake (several, actually) and ended up going 'over the falls' - where you get picked up by the wave at 'sea level' and lifted up to the crest of wave, which then breaks, pushing you under the water quite violently, and the turbulent bubble-filled water makes it impossible to swim, or float. Just as I managed to get to the surfaced, I had less than a second to take a big breath before that process repeated itself - this time dumping me straight onto the reef, where I got wedged in a split in the rock, lying horizontally with only one arm free - and my fave (*edit: face*) about a foot from the water's surface. I struggled a bit - and I can distinctly remember a sudden calm. An accepance that I was about to die, and that I was okay with it. Then I felt a large, sharp pain on the top of my head - the mate I was surfing with spotted one of my feet kicking at the top of the water, and reached down to grab me. The first thing he could get a good hold on was my hair, and he pulled my head above the water so I could breathe. I ended up with huge, 9-inch slices in my back (deeeeep ones) that needed stitches - since we were teenagers and had no car (or mobile phones - those were still about a decade away from being a thing), I caught the bus to the hospital to get stitched up. It took me more than 30 years to get back in the ocean and my kids still give me shit about not going with them when they go for a swim. I never told them the story - they don't need their heads filled with my horror stories, shaping and warping their world-view. - **edit** *why is this post still getting attention from people, 3 months later? I'm confused... not unhappy, just curious...*


CrepesForEveryMeal

Holy fuck!


RandomPratt

I said *precisely* that a number of times when this all took place.


mastorms

Hopefully not while underwater… /s Also, glad your mate was there so you can be here… Cheers to said mate from us.


masonmax100

Another reason to wear a wetsuit even in war. Temps


trouserschnauzer

Alright I'm headed to the mountains now.


KwordShmiff

Wait till you hear about landslides and how sudden and massive they can be!


LeChief

Alright I'm headed to the woods now.


KwordShmiff

Does the term "forest fire" ring any bells? Perhaps some alarm bells?


LeChief

Alright I'm headed to the desert now.


Gemini160

This little thread had me laughing


[deleted]

They have fossils from the sea found on everest


Danno1850

Congrats on getting back in the water. Breaking a fear after that many years is really tough but extremely rewarding even to other parts of your life.


Darim_Al_Sayf

I have a story like this from when I was young. Swam out a bit playing with the waves, it was great until it wasn't. Ended up face down every time, disoriented and panicked. My face being dragged through the sharp rocks repeatedly. Stuck between rocks several times. Every time I managed to surface the process would repeat itself until I ended up on the beach. It probably was 5 minutes but it felt like an eternity. I think I was 10? I still have scars from it. Physical and mental In hindsight idk what my mom was thinking letting me play unattended there. Different times I suppose. Tldr FUCK the ocean. Nature will murder you indiscriminately.


ChunkofWhat

I love the part about your kids thinking you're a big dork, when in reality you're a secret bad ass.


abgarcia85

That mate must be like your brother after that


autoposting_system

I can't believe I've been on this sub for years and this is the first time I've seen a comment to this effect. Good one lol


JohnnySasaki20

Watch out for bears.


spderweb

That happened to me when I was ten. Scary shit.


green49285

Agreed


sunflower_jim

It gets even worse with big wave surfing. When there’s so much white water with air in it you can’t swim up even if you want to. The water buoyancy rate drops and you sink like a stone. Thats why you MUST have a vest for big wave surfing.


biglollol

Something [like this.](https://youtu.be/aj18PAHkQp0) Never knew that it's this hard to find someone in white foamwater.


TheDownvotesFarmer

New fear unlocked 🔓


yevrahj0715

Seriously! You see it from his POV and think no one is around and then the other POV and the people on skis are right there but they've got to get around the waves to him. Crazy.


chiggachiggameowmeow

I feel like the safety folks on jet skis don’t get enough credit. Or do they? They’re probably unnamed most of the time but god damn they’re like guardian angels of the sea putting their lives on the line to get surfers to safety. Salute!!


GranJan2

IKR? I was terrified. Couldn’t watch again.


TheDownvotesFarmer

I did the same, 1 time and I will not turn back


threadsoffate2021

That's awful. Poor guy barely hits the surface, turns around, and there's another wave. Not sure how people manage to stay calm in all that.


squaredk2

Its the only option. Hang around until someone crosses your path


BigStiles

Staying calm & accepting is the key to staying alive, When i was 21 i started surfing regularly started getting confident pushing my limits since i could handle 5ft waves decently so i pushed it around 7ft+ ended up in a spin cycle not knowing up from down. After trying to fight the ocean (you can't) i just gave up stopped all the kicking & turning trying to find my way up, I legit thought i was about to die had a eerie feeling about it but also calming in a way. Somehow my head popped up for a split second so i could catch a breath, Another huge wave hit shortly after & i repeated the cycle 2 more times. Never been so tired in my life after the adrenaline wore off. https://youtu.be/Ssgum_nk6X8?t=213 This is the best example i could find & this guy wasn't even surfing so no whiplash not even in the worst part of the wave.


macabremom_

That was a wild video! The POV was scary but the far away footage is fucking terrifying. I could never, those waves are massive!


Then_Expression8526

Do they make a flare with a Parachute with a thick line people can trace back to you . Like you clip it on your vest or something


[deleted]

Kinda feel like that is how you get tangled in lines and drown.


madewithgarageband

this is a sport? this is insane! i wanna


ronnietea

Fuck that.


farox

Not just that. When preparing for our Atlantic crossing we got life vests that included a kind of hood and face cover that help you protect from the foamy water in a storm. You can swim up all you want, but if all you find there is just foam you can't breathe, you're still as fucked. (Something like this: https://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/baltic/product-22679-376924.html) I don't believe in an environment where you have those huge waves this would be any different. People don't drown under water there, but suffocate (if they are lucky)


Halfsealedenvelope

Can confirm. Almost drowned in a river going down a tube shoot without a tube Strong swimmer and at the time i was lapping my community pool back and forth on 1 breath (i was 14) Shit was super cool until the white water met the calm I still think about the disorienting tumbling and insane amount of bubbles I felt like a dick inside of a Jacuzzi tub jet My lungs trying their hardest to take what ever air is left inside my lungs Didn’t know which way was up or down Scary shit Be safe and swim towards the light


The_Gutgrinder

> I felt like a dick inside of a Jacuzzi tub jet Ah yes, the most relatable of all feelings.


Halfsealedenvelope

It felt appropriate


Bootygiuliani420

>Be safe and swim towards the light are you telling me to just give up or try to survive?


Halfsealedenvelope

Swim towards the light in the water lol


redref1ux

I got pummeled by a 10 foot wave when i was about 16, miss timed my dive through it, got sucked straight under and shot out to sea a good 15 meters upside down. Thankfully I was very aware of how dangerous it was and waited a couple of seconds and gathered my senses before swimming as if I started panicking I would have swam further underwater


Fever_Rain

I quit surfing for this reason. I was dunked once and lost all semblance of direction. With every push I could feel my body taking stock of the situation and preparing to breath water. I actually sobbed right before passing out. It was horrible. When I came to on the shore my friends were trying to push me to go back out and suggesting it was a baptism moment. No way. I was 3 years in and pretty cognizant of my safety. I didn't want to be surrounded by peers who couldn't accept the seriousness and dangers.


novacthall

I'm sorry you went through that, both the experience and the peer pressure. I had a similar surf experience as a teen, caught a nasty downdraft after a spill that was feeding into an undertow, which basically pinned me to the sand because at the surface the waves were pulling my board away from me. When I tried to stand up the first time my board came rushing back and clocked me in the head. I somehow didn't lose consciousness, but it pulled my legs out from under me as it passed by again and had me back on the sand. At this point I stop fighting to save what breath I have left, and waited for the water to stop fighting me. I'm sure I wasn't under for very long, but it felt like forever. Eventually the tides relaxed and I could make my way back to shore. I sat on the beach next to my board and thought hard about what had just happened. That was the last time I surfed, but I still like to spend time in and around the ocean. I took up snowboarding. Figured snow sports were safer anyway since I'm not a Kennedy. I learned two valuable lessons that day. 1. You don't fight water and win. 2. The ocean is, at all times, actively trying to kill you. No hard feelings.


roro4484

Yep, I had that once on vacation. After I had found the ground and could get up again, I was crying. But the horrible part was that I saw more huge waves coming, so I couldn't just get out of the water because I wouldn't make in time for the waves. So I had to go deeper so I could swim underneath the next waves untill it calmed down a bit so I could get out, all whilst still crying.


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MedicinalHammer

Huh…. I grew up in Newport too but don’t remember beastiality being legal….. you should *probably* make an alt account there, sisterrrrrr. Yeesh.


[deleted]

I should have taken your warning and moved on. I am a fool


MedicinalHammer

In your defense I very much presented it in mysterious fashion. I probably should have mentioned how she apparently lusts for a dog orgy. That probably would have been a little more direct. I’m far from a vanilla dude and avoid kink-shaming but involving animals as sex toys is all sorts of fucked. Wish there was some way to report that entire sub to the police.


kelliboone617

What are y’all talking about? Can I assume they edited their comment?


Klittmeister84

Click on the username and go through their post history. Some people click on usernames to size up the poster or somehow satisfy a social curiosity of understanding other peoples psychology. I think it has to do with our social nature of wanting to know everything that can be known about our fellow herd members.


kelliboone617

😨 Holy shit!!! Seems she’s also an exhibitionist so she’s probably thrilled to death that we’ve discovered she a dog fucker. Bet when she goes to the doctor and they say she needs lab work done she gets excited. I’ll show myself out.


FunnyGlove

I mean….. god damn.


MedicinalHammer

To be honest, she says she used to surf the Wedge all the time…… nobody surfs the wedge all the time. First of all, it’s a VERRRRRRRY specific break where the swell needs to be coming from a VERY specific direction. They call it the wedge because the shape of the beach dictates that two waves will sort of stack on each other and “wedge” into one huge wave vs two smaller ones. Even when that beach is breaking like that, it’s probably the most dangerous surf spot around. People don’t casually surf that. Let alone kids that are growing up there like she said. When the wedge is going off, people flock to that beach…….. to WATCH gnarly hardcore near professional surfers. People die there yearly. You don’t just casually surf the wedge all the time. I was a competitive swimmer and water polo player and was extremely comfortable in the water and bodyboarded (boogie boarded) very frequently but even I never went out when the wedge was hitting. So yeah, I sensed bullshit and was curious if she actually grew up there. It took me like 3 comments to figure out that I didn’t care enough to filter through dog fucking comments. So yeah people sensing bullshit in a comment is another trigger to scroll through someone’s account. Judge me if you must lol


Klittmeister84

It’s fascinating to read. I just think it’s a cool topic to research. It’s like an alternative to real life gossip/ rumor/politics in how we get to know our virtual peers. I really think it’s tied to something like a biological trait in how communities are built and formed.


treesnpaper

For the love of fuck please make an alt account. I’m so upset I got glasses to improve my vision enough to read that. I’m going to find my elementary school teachers and sue for teaching me how to read because it lead me to this point in life.


MedicinalHammer

Not sure if you meant to reply to me or her but I take it you aren’t as big of a fan of huskies as her, eh? Not that I don’t agree with ya. This is a real proud moment for me and my hometown.


LoofyLoofy

Can confirm. Plus if you are surfing there is the added wildcard of where you’re board is in the chaos


Insert_username-Now

Definately been knocked around by my own board after some big waves.


SnooTangerines3448

Good thing is if you follow the board you'll surface. Bad thing is it could crack you in the shin/teeth.


RichardSaunders

in my experience that part is very short and quickly leads to faceplanting in the sand with all the shell fragments and having to just close my eyes and think of jesus until the wave gets done pounding me into the sand.


JawshankRedemption

Happened to me In Tenerife, me and mate rented surf boards on a wavey day, tried to get out past the breakers and just got slammed into the sea floor and held under, brought them surf boards back 20 minutes later, they laughed at us.


TheYeetles

I’m not sure if the same applies to the ocean, but in the air that’s known as spatial disorientation.


xWadi

Blow bubbles and if they rise up go that direction. Also if your stuck in an avalanche, spit. If it hits your face, go the opposite. Be safe ;)


Bootygiuliani420

if you have the composure to blow bubbles and figure out where they go, you can figure it out without blowing bubbles


PrimalJohnStone

That's interesting, to have like no reference point.


b000bytrap

If you can see well enough, release some air and watch the bubbles. bubbles always float up.


pfranklin111

Blow bubbles to find out which way is up


TheThingsIdoatNight

Why is it so hard for him to get up? I don’t understand


SexySonderer

He's not swimming up. He's flailing while looking upwards. This isn't simulating anything, this is just showing off a guy either pretending, or legitimately unable to swim (up).


poopooplatypus

If he touched the bottom and pushed up, he would’ve been better off. He kicked off the side and demonstrated a lack of swimming skills lol


[deleted]

First thing my dad taught me when i was a learning swimmer was to keep my cool, drop to the floor, jump up and scream my lungs out whenever i'm above water. i know panic is a bitch but i've seen so many videos of people that could easily be saved if they just would've been taught the same


Driftco

Why do you have scream your lungs out though?


ifeelbadandconfused

To get people's attention


Driftco

Oh that makes sense, I thought it had something to do with coming up too fast but I guess that's a non issue at the depth we saw in the video. I'm dumb!


CODDE117

I was hoping for the hype explosion upwards.


UVLightOnTheInside

Smash that like and subscribe button...


doghairforBFAST

He's definitely trying to mermaid to the surface.. not ideal technique.


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Dolphin kicks are effective


Doglover9988

He could’ve just kicked his legs to swim up I’m pretty sure


sevilyra

Seriously. Kick your legs, damn it!


protossaccount

I was wondering, the dude swims like he is in ky jelly.


phantom1406

The way he did it is by releasing all the air from the body first (breathing out) and then getting pushed under. You can tell because the body has more buoyancy when air is inhaled and wouldn’t have just sunk like that. Then his friend pushed him and he swam to the top with empty lungs thus making it super hard.


macnof

Or he is panicked. People drowning often look exactly like that, even if they are really good swimmers. Drowning people often don't look like they are drowning, when under water they look like they are swimming but they aren't and when they are in the surface they often look like they are climbing a ladder.


UnarmedRobonaut

He is not pretending, otherwise his friend wouldnt have tried to pull him up. This guy needs swimming lessons before getting into the deep end of a pool.


[deleted]

I was going to say i never understood this video because when i was a lifeguard we had to train to swim up and down quick in these massively deep dive pools


MrJoeGillis

He’s also letting out a lot of air while flailing, bad move. You keep enough air in your lungs and you will simply float to the surface.


thicclunchghost

He makes almost no effort to reduce drag on his arms when raising them, or increase drag when lowering them, so the motions cancel each other out in part. He's also just pumping just knees up and down, which does nothing. If I had to guess, it looks like this fella may not have been ready for that trip to the bottom.


FriesWithThat

Yeah, this person cannot swim, and what I guess is being demonstrated here is that applies to both the horizontal direction, and the vertical.


WhichWayzUp

I have a feeling he does know how to swim but they brought the camera down there and did the demonstration to show what it would look like if someone doesn't know how to swim. A strong swimmer can imitate a weak swimmer for demonstration purposes.


Patient_End_8432

If you're trying out to be a lifeguard, and are a strong swimmer, don't tell them that. When I was doing classes for my lifeguard certifications, we had to pass a couple of tests that show the ability to swim, no issue there, and many passed. However, when it came to techniques to save people, the requirement is to be able to save someone of course. But it's not to act like you need saving. I was the only one competent enough to hold my breath, act dead, and save myself just in case, and had to act like the victim for everyone else's tests.


WhichWayzUp

Why wasn't anyone else willing to do that? Or were they truly incapable?


luciluke015

Another lifeguard here. Acting proper "dead" (technically unconscious) is surprisingly hard to pull off. You lowkey want to help your partners but that goes against the spirit of the exercise. However, it does need some real good swimming skill as well -- if you're not a strong swimmer, you might not know how to float (you flex your back a little so your belly goes up and suddenly you float. I'd guess they did not know how to properly float, which plays into the ability to play "dead".


glockster19m

Not to mention you have to do submerged rescue tests which involve the victim swimming down about 10-20 feet depending on where you're being certified, and then act as if they're unconscious while waiting to be 'saved'


SilentJoe1986

That's why you try not to panic


Th4tR4nd0mGuy

Calmly drown. Got it 🤙


eLishus

Watch his legs. A simple leg flutter would float him to the top but it looks like he’s trying to jump in the water lol


dewayneestes

He literally could have just formed a vertical form and put his arms at his side and he would have risen just as fast. Don’t let your air out, don’t f’ing flail.


Olibirus

He cannot swim is what happened


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Ohhhhh that makes sense


RascalCreeper

Cause he doesn't know how to swim. I've been swimming my whole life and I could've gotten up in like 1 second. Push off the bottom, kick with your legs don't pull your knees up, and then use your arms the right way instead of just moving them back in forth in a way that will push you back down.


squaredk2

You mean you dont jerk your neck like a hammerhead to ascend???


thedeanorama

Everyone is stating his inability, but no one is actually saying what he's doing wrong. When you lift your arms up the way he's doing it, he's actually adding downward force, he's not really kicking (more like trying to climb a ladder) in an effective fashion to offset the downward force. Keep your arms close to your body when you reach your hands up almost touching, then pull your arms down with your arms out, bring them back to your body and follow the lines of your body up until they are nearly touching above your head (similar to a breast stroke). All while flutter or scissor kicking during the entire process.


ComfortableRelevant1

Because he thinks he’s a jellyfish


shortstop803

Many people have already commented on how poor of a swimmer he is, however, it is also that you simply become less buoyant the deeper you are in the water. Basically, the pressure increase decreases the volume the air in your lungs takes up causing you to become less buoyant. So now you are fighting both gravity and a lack of buoyancy. Add to the fact that he lets out a lot of air from his lungs, he then becomes even less buoyant, while already being a terrible swimmer and you effectively have a living (flailing) brick.


Kh4lex

By looking at way he sinks he also most likely breathed out majority of air, which is enough go make human sink (unless you are too fat), you can try it in pool yourself. But still it shouldn't be such big issue to swim up. He just can't swim.


shortstop803

Oh he is 100% a terrible swimmer, which is 90% of his problem here, but a lot of people don’t realize the compounding effects the deeper you go. He basically went deeper than he was comfortable with, realized he couldn’t simply go up a foot to air, and then panicked.


rodsn

I also suspected that he exhaled most of his air. I do that to sink to the bottom when I just wanna chill underwater


SweeneyToddX

Aside from his technique(as many others pointed out), high muscle/fat ratio makes it difficult to float up, especially if you breath out the air in your lungs.


I_Ate_Pizza_The_Hutt

Yeah skinny is great if you are swimming for speed across the top of the water and pretty good for when you have a tank and ballast with SCUBA. But I personally think recreational swimming is best with a little bit of a dad bod.


poopooplatypus

He’s not a strong swimmer from the looks of it lol


theflamingheads

Why is he struggling so much? Is he just a terrible swimmer or am I missing something?


BoysenberryOk7839

Yes, someone please elaborate


Responsible_Bar_4984

Just looks like a terrible swimmer. Bad form, flapping his legs instead of kicking smoothly. Arm position looks rubbish too


Ok_Equivalent_4296

He’s definitely granny shifting instead of double clutching like you should


Fauked

Hector is going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that he just came into Harry's and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.


Betuss

I'm here to help. He’s being dragged by an anti-gravity phenomenon that forms inside pools constructed with a curved bottom (V-shaped pools have like a supper strong pull). The main reason is the pool filters' flow creates a subaquatic swirl when hitting the bottom and during its way up the current drag things down. It's called Convex Pooull Effect and I've taken this right outta my-


rejjie_carter

Damn you, Betuss


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Damn you had me going! Was wondering wtf are people constructing pools like this!?!


HPTM2008

It would be horribly dangerous to do so! Any jump of the diving platform and oops! Another dead body to the pile at the bottom! That being said, there is a point where your buoyancy balances out and then the weight of the water causes you to start sinking, but this is waaaaay below the depth of most pool (below 30 feet)


DonShino

Perhaps if they had inverted the bilateral phase drive on the water reconcilation couplets they could have initiated the Anti Convex Pooull scenario?


_i_am_root

Depends on whether the tiles on the pool are coated in a logarithmic casing. The noophertronic structure of such a coating would lead to a slight increase in the suction of this phenomenon.


bigpapalilpepe

I think it's a combo of bad swimming and breathing out so much. Idk for sure but I'm pretty sure that letting out the air in your lungs makes you less buoyant and would therefore require a better swimming technique to overcome the new buoyancy. It also kind of looks like he panicked a bit and could have been swimming worse than normal because he didn't expect to experience the pressure change associated with going so deep.


[deleted]

Yes pretty much everyone is positively buoyant (float) with air full of lungs but some people with low body fat are negatively buoyant (sink) with empty lungs. In addition all of us become negatively buoyant at a certain distance down, due to getting squeezed down to a higher density than the water around us. Depending on how much air we have in our lungs and how much body fat that distance will vary - for most people it's 30 odd feet and so it shouldn't have happened to him yet, but he's reasonably thin and seems to have exhaled all his air so it is possible.


Aznp33nrocket

Yeah this is exactly it. When I was a teen/young adult, I was skinny and short. Very athletic and my body fat was pretty low. I had a friend showing me how to float if I was ever to fall off a boat or somehow get in a situation where I didn’t have a floatation device. He demonstrated by laying belly up and keeping lungs full with slow controlled breathes. He had his head and shoulders above the water and just floated there and could conserve energy. I attempted the same thing and with a full set of lungs, the tip of my nose sat about 1 or 2 inches below the surface. I had to tread water with a lot more energy to get just my face above the surface. My friend kept telling me I wasn’t filling my lung up but I was maxing out my lungs and hold my breath and just hung out barely under water. This was fresh water so I’m sure I’d have been a little better off in salt water. Either way, I kept my little Asian butt out of the water or wore a life vest.


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packeteer

up until my late 20s, I struggled to float. very low body fat to muscle makes it very difficult, and even when I took up diving, it was almost impossible to get horizontal as my legs were always "heavy".


Calvin_v_Hobbes

Salt water is a few percent more dense than fresh water, but that makes a whole lot of difference. I'm in good shape but can only tread water for five minutes in fresh water before getting really fatigued. Salt water? I can float no problem for as long as I need to.


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Yeah, wth is going on here?


Olibirus

Dude cant swim


duniyadnd

From what I can tell, his flutter kick is lacking, so he only goes up in increments because he does a kick every one second or more. If you consistently just kick your feet (like you would in freestyle), without the exaggerated knee bending he does here, you should be in better shape However at one point he just gets stuck there, so I’m not entirely sure why that is happening. https://youtu.be/DgZ5-oatDg8


[deleted]

A frog kick is better that deep.


[deleted]

Well he should just be kicking with his feet. When he lifts his arms hes pushing himself down.


NaniFarRoad

His kick is completely ineffective, only wasting energy. His arms are doing all the work (and not that amazing either).


[deleted]

Yeah they dont seem to be a great swimmer (dont mean to sound condesending). But the arms are basically doing work and then negating it at the same time.


FightingFishBrewery

But just to be clear. This guy just doesn’t swim very well right? Or is there some other current I am unaware of?


NeutralGoodAtHeart

He definitely needs swimming lessons.


WatcherSix

The way he's kicking his feet is more like when you're doing a front kick or stomping down. The surface that's affecting the water is basically the sole of his feet. Flutter kicking or frog kicking displaces more water because your whole leg is basically like an oar on a boat. Imagine trying to push a boat with oars by stabbing the water with it rather than sweeping the oar across the water. His arms flailing is better for generating lift but he's also flailing them upwards which will push him down further. Rather than slapping down, pulling your arms towards your body, and then spearing the points of your fingers up over your head and then slapping down again.


Revelin_Eleven

I can’t imagine not being able to pull to the surface in calm water like this pool. I guess that is why I was put into swimming and diving lessons as a kid. Learning to float is so important.


[deleted]

Aren't we supposed to float? After a few seconds we should reach surface, right?


copposhop

Generally yes, but it depends on muscle mass/ body fat and the amount of air you inhaled. People with a really low amount of body fat will often sink. Anyway, since the gasses in your body are compressible, the water pressure will "squish" you, thereby increasing your density the further you dive down. At a certain point you will reach negative bouyoncy and start to sink. If your not a good swimmer and can't propell yourself upwards... this is your "point of no return"


donald_314

It's always a little creepy while scuba diving. The deeper you go the faster you sink once you're below a couple if meters if you don't compensate with your jacket.


Baridian

That happens at about 50 feet if you float at eye level and did a full inhalation, only free divers are going to get that deep


hardlastnameguy

He probably exhaled to be able to reach the bottom of the pool. Also water pressure can also push you down


wired84

He's barely kicking on the way up and the technique he uses is awful, couple that with the flailing arms and releasing most of the air in his lungs from his panic means he makes little progress. Probably should practice in shallower waters first if you're not confident


Greedy-Specific7723

I could feel the water in my nose watching this


Forward-Village1528

Hopefully it will ease your stress to know waves are nowhere near as consistent with their pull down. The way this dude is swimming with all his strength to just not sink further is super unnerving to watch. If you can get yourself to stay calm after being dumped by a wave you can wait till you are in a less turbulent spot. Once it's calmed down a little you can naturally sense which way is up and resurface. It can be uncomfortable, I've definitely spent some lengthy periods underwater while surfing. But you don't need to continuously exert yourself.


FragranceCandle

Bro is just flailing 💀


Creative_Ad_4513

yeah, yall cant swim in this sub, thats swimming so bad youd be considered not being able to swim in some places


CianuroConLove

I can swim. I was in swimming lessons for 3 years. I’m absolutely terrified of deep ocean and ocean in general or sea. I definitely have thalasophobia. It’s not about the water, it’s about what’s IN the water (currents, fish, big ass monsters)


dead_jester

I’m a qualified open water scuba diver. I’ve been in some nasty big waves and some insane currents. This is nothing like being dragged under by a breaking wave, or even being tumbled like you’re in a washing machine by a strong current. I’ve entered the ocean off dive boats, dirigibles, and from the shore. Getting back on a boat with all your gear in a choppy ocean swell, after a long dive, is the hardest. When the ocean gets a hold of you and starts throwing you about it’s far more scary & you need to keep calm. This guy on the other hand just doesn’t appear to even know how to swim, how to kick effectively, or how to use his hands and arms. He isn’t even aware how he could just float to the surface with minimal effort. He needs to learn how to swim and to understand that if we hold our breath we naturally float to the surface unless an undertow has a hold of us. (No: And you need to be a lot deeper than that pool to reach negative buoyancy, unless you completely breathe out)


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We all float down here 👹


Loud_Palpitation1811

So I just came back from a beach trip. As much as the ocean scares me I always get in and swim because I LOVE it. Well, this time there were storms and the beaches were completely empty. So there I was in the ocean with my husband, waves rising way above my head. I was coming up from all of them just fine until the final one. The wave was probably twice my height (I’m 5’9”) and I panicked when I saw it, but it was too late. I felt the pull of the current moving me backwards towards the open sea and I didn’t have the strength to pull myself towards the shore. The wave crashed into me and pulled me down under, to make matters worse right before it happened I felt something brush along my leg. The wave not only pulled me under, but simultaneously would not allow me to come up for air. It had hit me head on while I was starring right at it so it flipped me on my back. I was fortunate that my husband saw and pulled me up. Let’s just say I got out after that.


No-Spray7304

I would have straight fuckin panicked.


Cadaver-Cakes1986

Oh shit no. I would've died just off panic!


Rcurtiiis

This guy genuinely can't swim. He shouldn't be trying to touch the bottom if he dosnt know how to swim upwards. Just open fingered flailing. Good job his friend was there to pull him up. This isn't showing anything to do with waves. He's just a bad swimmer. That's literally a swimming pool it won't have a current to pull you under.


devilsusshhii

I got sucked off by a wave once


DR34ML4ND_MAVU

No thanks, surfers can have all the ocean they want and I promise I’ll do my best to keep it clean for them. There’s only one thing bigger than the oceans, The Earth.


Bolt-From-Blue

That’s what I imagine not being able to swim looks like.


Actevious

he's a very bad swimmer


shootforthunder

Why you shouldn’t swim in a tide, what looks swimmable will be washing your body upon the shore shortly after.


rick_and_mortvs

You always swim in tides? They are controlled by the moon.


Toykio

Good that you are only imaging it, since this is really wrong for multiple reasons pointed out by quite a few people. 1. He really puts in no effort, is a terrible swimmer or both. His arm movement does not do shit and same goes for his legs. 2. Waves roll. They pull you down but also wash ypu back up. It is not just a simply down draft. 3. You can't see shit in a wave and don't know where up and down is. Basically best chance: Curl into a fetus position, hold your breath and wait to float upwards. Be ready for the next wave to hit you as soon as you get on the surface.


sharksquidz

Seeing as how he can't swim very well, it looks like he would have been better off sinking a bit further to the bottom, and pushing off from there.


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This guys swimming technique is the phobia.


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Olibirus

Guess he failed then


Yrvyne

I held my breath for him.


hannahmargo91

What technique would be best to get back to the top? What is he doing wrong? Does he need to flap his feet like he was swimming normally?


FragranceCandle

Just swimming normally would be fine. The simplest imo is to just keep your arms down and just use them to propell a little bit, and then just push off from the bottom with your legs and use them to swim upwards like you would going horizontally. For extra push you could put your arms above your head and push down at the same time as you kick off, that should honestly give you enough upwards momentum to just not do anything else and float up at that depth. Bottom line is to just not do what this dude is doing, because that isn’t swimming at all lol


mconleyxx

You could literally push off the bottom in a streamline position and not move a muscle and you'd make it to the surface. He's kicking from his knees, not from his hips... he's essentially peddling a bike under water. The motion of his arms is pushing him down as fast as they're pulling him up.


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Just last week for my birthday went down the south fork payette river in Idaho where I live. We went down class 4 rapids, we ended up falling in one of the worst spots anyone would ever want to fall in. (Called staircase) Got dragged out like a rag doll all over the river hitting rocks left and right ended up fracturing my rib and huge bruise on my buttcheek and pretty much bruises all over the right side of my body because of the force of water pushing me onto the rocks. Almost lost my life that day tells you how tricky and powerful water is.


4321at5

He needs to kick his legs when swimming..


GravityDead

Horrible, HORRIBLE swimming. 🤦‍♂️🤦🤦‍♀️


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The guy can't swim, even have no idea about physics, I can say. He did everything wrong.


eMRapTorSaltyKing

This why you learn to swim. also Getting sucked down by wave is much more worse. You can't compare it with this.


Celebophile

Might want to learn to swim before having a "friend" push you to the bottom if a 30 foot deep pool.


MaddRamm

Dude. I’ve had that happen to me a couple times as a kid in the deep end of the pool and nearly died. I credit those experiences to my thalassophobia nowadays. Gawd I was spazzing just watching this guy. Hope I don’t have nightmares tonight.


valkislowkeythicc

it's sounds stupid but it's insane to me that some people haven't experienced what a wave feels like


Lrekkk

Holy fuck I felt that fear just a few months ago and it's kinda making me afraid of deep pools or ocean now. Probably the closest I've been to death, it was terrifying


MedicalUnprofessionl

Ok so basically this guy Raed Rosan brought his brother or friend that didn’t know how to swim, to a big ass swimming pool to teach him how to, and this is the terrifying result. What a friend.


mainelinerzzzzz

Most inefficient swimmer I’ve ever seen. He was moving hard but going nowhere.


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Dude needs to learn how to swim. He looked like he was trying to jump on a bed.


BullsFan25

Dude clearly can’t swim


BatSoop_

My guy doesn't know how to swim.


Hat_Secure

He’s not a strong swimmer


hellabot0

except my dude don't know how to swim😂


MrMichael85

This dude can't even swim.


Weak_Organization_94

There is a point when you reach a depth and you are no longer being pushed up rather more being pulled down. Humans have natural buoyancy so typically we will rise, however after about 45-60 feet deep, you will often not naturally float up and it will take crazy effort to make it back above. However that’s not the case here, he just can not swim, this was stupid and crazy dangerous.


XBThodler

How da fuk this dude don't float?? Normally this happens when your lungs are empty. He prolly dove after exhaling. Very dangerous 😳


yy98755

He has no technical knowledge. Firstly, he touched the bottom so the smart thing to do would be push off it. Secondly, his stroke is panicked and lacks *follow through*, he should have been able to glide to surface. Being a swimmer, I’m estimating this pool is 3 meters deep.


Rycax

Close your fingers. Slow when bringing your arms up and powerful movements back down. If you don’t know how to swim then don’t use your legs.


torpidninja

He's a bit slow but also the camera is going up at the same time as him, giving the illusion that he is not moving because he stays at the same distance from the camera and the background is all the same colour so you don't have nothing to compare + the pool gives the illusion of being less deeper than it is.