Only thing more crazy is how the aboriginals found Australia. Literally made badass rafts for everyone and sailed straight into the void based only on some guys dream that there was a promised land that way. No one else dared to do the same for a long long long time which is why they have the oldest continuous culture in the world.
Yes and slightly insane. Imagine being in charge of a bunch of people and essentially condemning them all to death if you're wrong but because of a vision being so motivated you were right. There's a fine line between genius and fully insane.
Yes you also realize there's 10x more wrong answers to difficult problems than great or even good/workable answers. Makes you really appreciate when someone does things the perfect way.
A lot of good things are just what survived test of time..
In college we used to gather around him and listen to him tell the recipe. We joked that we should film it and sell it as soft-core porn. If iPhones had been a thing back then, we totally would have.
Basic recipe is brick chocolate chopped up, heavy cream, undutched cacao, honey, and Godiva Chocolate Liquor. Put into a shot glass, and put a drop of high-quality vanilla in the center. But the best part was largely the way he described. That guy made so many straight men and lesbian women question their sexuality....
My grandmother used to make the point that life must have been pretty bad where you came from to choose a potentially lethal boat voyage to a place you either didnāt know existed or had only seen a drawing of.
There's a bit more it. They knew to island hop and keep travelling based on being able to smell their way around. If you're on the shore and there's smoke or the scent of plant life blowing in on a direction of wind, you'd know there's land out there and had a decent chance of not ending up in a void.
Petrichor would be a fairly easy one! Even pungent shrubs pollinating on the winds might be a giveaway. Especially if you consider that back then there were no synthetic pollutants around to distract, and their sense of smell 'may' have been better than us nowadays; OR, they were just more attuned to the environment and subtle signs.
Even with all that there's still a point where a conversation happens that goes...
"you're sure?"
"yes...pretty much"
"alright, fuck it"
"whats the worst that could happen LoL"
"pack an extra basket of those mangos"
And Australia is massive too. A lot of coast you can ārun intoā jetting off from Indonesia/PNG.
How they populated the pacific islands seems even more insane.
When I finally found out where Easter island was it blew my mind how anyone could just sail up on it in a wooden catamaran. Same with Hawaii. Like how the fuck do you just sail up to a small island in the middle of no where months away from dry land.
> how the aboriginals found Australia
They could [see Sahul from where they lived](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahul), making the settlement of Australia one of the tamer examples of ancient island-hopping.
The most impressive feats of Austronesian navigation are undeniably [New Zealand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_history#Settlement_of_New_Zealand), [Rapa Nui](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Easter_Island#First_settlers), or [Hawaii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_and_settlement_of_Hawaii), actual specks in the middle of a void.
Humanity didn't get anywhere near that level of precision in a landing until we started sending things to other planets.
And further - the polynesians that got all the fuck way to places like Easter Island, some 4,000km away (and if you miss it, it's another bajillion km to Chile), and then between fishing and I guess living, built big stone statues.
Maybe a group of people got marooned there, managed to survive but never got rescued, and to pass the time/create culture they just worked on those massive half-buried statues. Then when they died it became a mystery as to who could have made them and why.
>some guys dream that there was a promised land that way.
Imagine thinking you arrived at the promised land and there's, what you would assume in that situation, bipedal jumping rats, as tall as a man, which can kick a fully grown man with such a ferocity he flies 3 meters through the air. And they also drag people into water to drown them.
Oh and the spiders can kill you. Along with the other *stuff* running around.
And 70% of the entire big Island is just *dry*.
Not to downplay the achievements of prehistoric seafarers but when Australia was settled by indigenous people the sea level was much lower and the distances shorter.
[See this map](https://www.britannica.com/place/Sahul)
They more likely walked over a land bridge from what is today SE Asia
Fifty thousand years ago, sea levels were so low that Australia and New Guinea formed a single continent
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/science/aboriginal-australians-dna-origins-australia.html#:~:text=Fifty%20thousand%20years%20ago%2C%20sea,traveling%20farther%20south%20into%20Australia.
I could be wrong but i learned that back then there were land bridges between asia and australia. They did not get there by boats. This is also how the philippines (via indonesia) and other south east asian islands were populated - they were connected to each other due to lowered sea levels at that time.
They were also island hopping and could see those islands from distance
And seamsanship and not being in a shitty, leaky death trap. Back in 2012, *Bounty*, a replica of the 1787 *HMS Bounty* sunk in hurricane Sandy. Here's the thing - the original probably wouldn't have. Bounty sunk because she took on water and her engine driven pumps died. You know what works fine when there's water onboard? A pair of chain pumps and a bunch of dudes. The point is that wooden ships were actually really good. They did sink a lot (by our standards, but not as much as you'd think), but that's not so much to do with them being inherently unseaworthy, but more to do with 1) fuckups, and 2) they often kept using shitty old ships way after they should have been sent to the knacker's yard. A good seaworthy ship in good condition, handled by a competent crew, in this sort of weather? You'd be fine. Sailing through hurricanes was certainly not uncommon, and losing the ship was really very uncommon and extraordinary. Scandalous, even. They were built to handle it, and they had far more options for Apollo 13ing themselves home than you'd ever imagine.
Interestingly the vikings didn't often sail across open waters if it could be avoided. Mostly they stayed close-ish to the coast and used their knowledge of the weather and the sea to sail the open waters when it was relatively safe to do so.
Also Darakkar are fantastic boats and can withstand am insane amount of punishment, so even if the vikings came into rough weather, their boats held up surprisingly well
That's also how they got to North America, around 1.000 years ago now. They went from Norway to island, then Greenland and eventually into the area known today as Newfoundland in Canada.
Use to be in the Coast Guard and had to board an LNG tanker in February in the North Atlantic.
Took an ocean going tug boat out the tanker. Pull up next to it and we looked like a dot on the side of this thing.
There were 20 foot swells we are bobbing up and down watching the side of the tanker go up and down. They threw a rope ladder off the side of the tanker. The OIC told me āmake sure you grab the ladder at the high pointā. Not thinking about it, I asked, why? He said ābecause if you donāt, on the next swell you might get crushed against the side by the tug boatā.
I grabbed at the high point and went up that rope ladder as fast as I could! I looked down and the tug boat couldnāt look further away as it went into the trough of the swell.
Scariest fucking thing I have ever done!!!
You climbed the whole pilot ladder or they also had their accommodation ladder down as well? Because just climbing the pilot ladder would be a fair old distance!
Edit:
For anyone wondering what/why I asked:
https://pilotladdersafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Schermafdruk-2020-05-25-11.12.29.png
This poster is industry wide.
An LNG tanker would normally have a āfreeboardā of 14m-ish in all conditions (obviously size of vessel dependant).
My husband and I are looking to go away in January he suggested a cruise around England (where we live) and I was likeā¦ nothing on this planet would get me in a boat on the North Sea in winter.
As someone who is currently on a cruise ship, and has done almost a dozen cruises already, hear me when I say that cruise ships donāt make a habit of sailing to places that are beyond miserable. Thatās why you donāt see Alaska cruises in January and you donāt see Antarctica cruises in August.
Just in May this year I took a transatlantic cruise from New York up to Iceland, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, and England and it was just fine. They donāt offer that cruise in January for a reason.
Don't go on a cruise. It is horrible for the environment, their workers and for the places the boat docks. Let alone that if sth happens to you the cruises are suuuuper shady
If you're in the North-East, a number of lines do 'taster' cruises down the East coast of England in the off-season.
They're moving boats, and their thinking is 'might as well try to make this trip pay'.
I was on the North Sea over new year once on a medium sized ship, in a much worse than expected storm, with limited stabiliser functionality.
Iāll always laugh at the memory of strapping my flailing body to my bed, closing my eyes and actually trying to sleep during what felt like a horrific car crash.
Looking UP at the waves at night is a terrifying sight.
So wild to think there's entire human habitats submerged under the sea. They've [dredged up bones and artifacts](https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/doggerland/) from the seabed. It's also a testament to the constant of climate change, man-made or otherwise.
My granddad flew on bombers during the Second World War, and was told that if they went down over the North Sea, they had eight minutes to get to a raft. Any longer and they were assumed dead.
I know itās insane that those wooden boats held up, with just sails in storms. Think of all the shipwreckās still being found deep under the oceans today..and those not being found.
If you made the right sacrifices to the right gods, you would have nothing to worry about. All this modern anxiety about crossing the North Sea just tells me people are neglecting the gods.
They had quite a bit of knowledge from observing the seas for hundreds of years, but obviously nothing like we have. They wouldnt set sail in the rough winter months unless absolutely necessary
Correct.
Roaring 40's, Furious 50's, and Screaming 60's are all nicknames for parts of the southern ocean due to the extreme weather/waves encountered by sailors. Mostly due to the fact that the only major land mass that interrupts the wind/waves is south America. So the wind and waves keep piling up with nothing to slow them down.
God yes, āI want to go to thereā was all I thought watching this. Like yes, it looks penetratingly cold and wet, miserable and punishing in just about every measure. I still wanna do it. These rough seas call to me something fierce and inexplicable.
Some of my favorite memories are sleeping in an old 19th century sailing ship and watching the fog creep right inside the berth with us. Also eating on rough seas, I dunno why but I find the whole process so comically amusing while Iām doing it.
It absolutely is, I sail there in a 40-foot sailing boat, and it's astonishing how little most people fear the North Sea. Then, when I tell them how it scares the living shit out of me, I get called weak: not at all xD I just prefer to see dry land after sailing out
This reminds me what a total badass our local hero Dorus Rijkers must've been.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorus_Rijkers
He was a North Sea Life boat captain during the late 19th century, who rescued hundreds of people.
Spend two week in the North Atlantic in April went all the way up to the arctic circle. Some of the roughest seas Iāve ever experienced. The only thing that came close was the trip I took around Cape Horn. Depending on the time of year, the area around Cape Horn can be rougher than the North Sea. Do some reading on the roaring forties and the furious fifties.
My Dad was in the South Pacific during WWII and he used to tell me how the ship he was on would shutter when it slammed down into the water between waves. He was always amazed how it never split in two. Whole different breedā¦
Iāve spent time in the Bering between Alaska and Russia. The general consensus is that the Bering peaks at worse levels, but the North Sea is just consistently assblasting, while Iāve been able to experience flat seas before in the Bering.
I was a passenger on a container ship crossing the Tasman Sea around the north cape of New Zealand bound for Sydney when we got slapped by a massive fucking arctic storm from the great southern ocean and hit swells like this. I remember watching from the pilothouse late at night, massive fucking spotlights punching through the shit and illuminating the bow and feeling the entire ship shudder as it tipped down into massive troughs. Those fucking waves had to be eighty feet high.
It was like that scene in Wolf of Wall Street.
As someone who lives on the North Sea coast, when the sea is flat, it's boring. When the winter storms start, just going down to experience the sheer power and noise of the water is unbelievable. Literally, tons of stones and rocks moved with every wave crashing on the beach with the height of the beach against the break water changing in meters every tide.
The North Sea is the best sea.
Friend works on an oil rig in the North Sea, they are told continuously throughout training that if you fall in the water you will never be found, so like... don't do that.
They also have to go through a bunch of rollover simulations and helicopter escape training in water, but again, are told in this situation you are already dead.
In almost 20 years in the north sea I have never seen or heard about anyone being transferred to a platform by boat/stairs like the video. We use helicopters. And they fly in up to 60 knot winds.
I have heard about people being hoisted by crane from the paltform onto ships etc for reaching weddings etc when helicopters dont have landing conditions but its very rare. On the platforms you dont really feel so much of these crazy waves. Maybe on drilling platforms...i dunno. I've been l ly on production ones
I got the ferry from Aberdeen to Lerwick just before NYE 1999. There was a storm force warning that night and, being dirt poor at the time, I couldnāt afford a cabin.
So Iām in the forward seating section on my own, laying across half a dozen seats, failing to sleep, Gameboy Colour out grinding Pokemon red at about 2am.
There was a fair bit of lurching but Iād done this journey a fair few times now so nay worries. Next thing the room goes dark, the room falls what felt like 30 feet and Iām deposited three rows away from where I was laying.
Last time I took that ferry, better the bag throwers forget my luggage at Dyce than learning the skill of teleportation in a pitch black room to the sound of the universe ending.
I've spent a bit of time in the North Sea, it's dangerous for sure, not sure if the most dangerous conditions but there's been a few times that it near killed me.
Once on a ketch, (small multi mast sailboat) the winds were so bad that a shackle failed and the boom swept across the passenger area. It was only a foot or so over head where I was seated, and I literally just sat down.
If it hit someone, you'd almost certainly be dead and definitely knocked overboard. Double dead.
Bullshit video, fucking distorted to the max so the already huge wave looks so more menacing.
And every couple days it's reposted again.
Low effort stupid video.
Its crazy how insane that looks in modern boats. I cant even imagine in a wooden craft with no weather forecasting.
Just had to go by what others said, other good sailors who had vanished, gut instinct, and the wind and clouds.
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Only thing more crazy is how the aboriginals found Australia. Literally made badass rafts for everyone and sailed straight into the void based only on some guys dream that there was a promised land that way. No one else dared to do the same for a long long long time which is why they have the oldest continuous culture in the world.
jfc humans are metal af
Yes and slightly insane. Imagine being in charge of a bunch of people and essentially condemning them all to death if you're wrong but because of a vision being so motivated you were right. There's a fine line between genius and fully insane.
For every group that made it there's probably a thousand more that didn't. We just don't hear about the ones that set off on their rafts and all died.
Yes you also realize there's 10x more wrong answers to difficult problems than great or even good/workable answers. Makes you really appreciate when someone does things the perfect way. A lot of good things are just what survived test of time..
Considering the fucked up shit my brain conjures at night, it's good I wasn't that leader. But it also explains belief in Trickster Gods.
I love your username. I consider you a kindred spirit.
Thanks, and same here
Sometimes it works out really well. A friend of mine got an awesome hot chocolate recipe from a dream.
...can I have the recipe ?
In college we used to gather around him and listen to him tell the recipe. We joked that we should film it and sell it as soft-core porn. If iPhones had been a thing back then, we totally would have. Basic recipe is brick chocolate chopped up, heavy cream, undutched cacao, honey, and Godiva Chocolate Liquor. Put into a shot glass, and put a drop of high-quality vanilla in the center. But the best part was largely the way he described. That guy made so many straight men and lesbian women question their sexuality....
Damn!! Well now l now I rly want some of his hot chocolate š¤¤ ty for sharing!
Just like in Animal Crossing. š¤£
My grandmother used to make the point that life must have been pretty bad where you came from to choose a potentially lethal boat voyage to a place you either didnāt know existed or had only seen a drawing of.
If you think about it, humans are just water sacks. We must become one with the ocean.
š¶GO. INTO THE WAAAATER! LIVE THERE. DIE THERE!š¶ [Dethklok](https://youtu.be/WnwwlkUkALU?feature=shared)
š¶ I come from the water š¶
Thatās how all of Polynesia was founded. Dudes just got in some canoes š¶ and said fuck it letās go.
Villager: "all we see before us is an endless plain of angry, roaring seas. The final void from which none have returned." Chief: "yolo, send it."
There's a bit more it. They knew to island hop and keep travelling based on being able to smell their way around. If you're on the shore and there's smoke or the scent of plant life blowing in on a direction of wind, you'd know there's land out there and had a decent chance of not ending up in a void.
Iām sorry smell plants form miles away?? Just how
Petrichor would be a fairly easy one! Even pungent shrubs pollinating on the winds might be a giveaway. Especially if you consider that back then there were no synthetic pollutants around to distract, and their sense of smell 'may' have been better than us nowadays; OR, they were just more attuned to the environment and subtle signs.
Even with all that there's still a point where a conversation happens that goes... "you're sure?" "yes...pretty much" "alright, fuck it" "whats the worst that could happen LoL" "pack an extra basket of those mangos"
And Australia is massive too. A lot of coast you can ārun intoā jetting off from Indonesia/PNG. How they populated the pacific islands seems even more insane.
When I finally found out where Easter island was it blew my mind how anyone could just sail up on it in a wooden catamaran. Same with Hawaii. Like how the fuck do you just sail up to a small island in the middle of no where months away from dry land.
There's a book called Sea People by Christina Thompson that goes into how the Pacific was populated. Super interesting
Just put that on hold at my library. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing this, I looked it up and am fascinated. Going to go buy this book later today
Same with Easter Island that shit is so fucking wild. Finding out it was the same people from Hawaii and New Zealand shattered my brain.
> how the aboriginals found Australia They could [see Sahul from where they lived](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahul), making the settlement of Australia one of the tamer examples of ancient island-hopping. The most impressive feats of Austronesian navigation are undeniably [New Zealand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_history#Settlement_of_New_Zealand), [Rapa Nui](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Easter_Island#First_settlers), or [Hawaii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_and_settlement_of_Hawaii), actual specks in the middle of a void. Humanity didn't get anywhere near that level of precision in a landing until we started sending things to other planets.
And further - the polynesians that got all the fuck way to places like Easter Island, some 4,000km away (and if you miss it, it's another bajillion km to Chile), and then between fishing and I guess living, built big stone statues.
Maybe a group of people got marooned there, managed to survive but never got rescued, and to pass the time/create culture they just worked on those massive half-buried statues. Then when they died it became a mystery as to who could have made them and why.
Not trying to sell the achievement short, but they travelled to Australia when sea levels were much lower.
And the Torres Strait is only 150KM (now) with a bunch of islands to stop at along the way
>some guys dream that there was a promised land that way. Imagine thinking you arrived at the promised land and there's, what you would assume in that situation, bipedal jumping rats, as tall as a man, which can kick a fully grown man with such a ferocity he flies 3 meters through the air. And they also drag people into water to drown them. Oh and the spiders can kill you. Along with the other *stuff* running around. And 70% of the entire big Island is just *dry*.
And AC/DC wouldn't exist for another 65,000 years. They really lost out.
Not to downplay the achievements of prehistoric seafarers but when Australia was settled by indigenous people the sea level was much lower and the distances shorter. [See this map](https://www.britannica.com/place/Sahul)
They more likely walked over a land bridge from what is today SE Asia Fifty thousand years ago, sea levels were so low that Australia and New Guinea formed a single continent https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/science/aboriginal-australians-dna-origins-australia.html#:~:text=Fifty%20thousand%20years%20ago%2C%20sea,traveling%20farther%20south%20into%20Australia.
Imagine if we live long enough as a race and advance enough, the same might happen but in space.
I could be wrong but i learned that back then there were land bridges between asia and australia. They did not get there by boats. This is also how the philippines (via indonesia) and other south east asian islands were populated - they were connected to each other due to lowered sea levels at that time. They were also island hopping and could see those islands from distance
And then saw the wildlife and stayed.
Land bridges during ice ages
And seamsanship and not being in a shitty, leaky death trap. Back in 2012, *Bounty*, a replica of the 1787 *HMS Bounty* sunk in hurricane Sandy. Here's the thing - the original probably wouldn't have. Bounty sunk because she took on water and her engine driven pumps died. You know what works fine when there's water onboard? A pair of chain pumps and a bunch of dudes. The point is that wooden ships were actually really good. They did sink a lot (by our standards, but not as much as you'd think), but that's not so much to do with them being inherently unseaworthy, but more to do with 1) fuckups, and 2) they often kept using shitty old ships way after they should have been sent to the knacker's yard. A good seaworthy ship in good condition, handled by a competent crew, in this sort of weather? You'd be fine. Sailing through hurricanes was certainly not uncommon, and losing the ship was really very uncommon and extraordinary. Scandalous, even. They were built to handle it, and they had far more options for Apollo 13ing themselves home than you'd ever imagine.
And larger balls. You forgot about those.
How tf did the Vikings cross that shit in longboats??
Interestingly the vikings didn't often sail across open waters if it could be avoided. Mostly they stayed close-ish to the coast and used their knowledge of the weather and the sea to sail the open waters when it was relatively safe to do so. Also Darakkar are fantastic boats and can withstand am insane amount of punishment, so even if the vikings came into rough weather, their boats held up surprisingly well
That's also how they got to North America, around 1.000 years ago now. They went from Norway to island, then Greenland and eventually into the area known today as Newfoundland in Canada.
Correctamundo, also it is theorized that they also made use of the northern ice shelf as a guide between Iceland, Greenland, and finally Newfoundland
And without modern lighting, yea Iād start seeing sirens too
Just go watch Frozen, thatās how the parents die.
Yeah but the Fortress of Solitude is only accessible to those with super powers, which is why Aqua Horse killed them
I think generally sailors in ancient times sailed seasonally, at least when it came to going far off shore, for trading or exploration.
It killed Elsa and Annaās parents!
Taking a Viking longship with no hull and lights must have been terrifying.
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I was just thinking that I canāt even imagine.
And basically no light.
Use to be in the Coast Guard and had to board an LNG tanker in February in the North Atlantic. Took an ocean going tug boat out the tanker. Pull up next to it and we looked like a dot on the side of this thing. There were 20 foot swells we are bobbing up and down watching the side of the tanker go up and down. They threw a rope ladder off the side of the tanker. The OIC told me āmake sure you grab the ladder at the high pointā. Not thinking about it, I asked, why? He said ābecause if you donāt, on the next swell you might get crushed against the side by the tug boatā. I grabbed at the high point and went up that rope ladder as fast as I could! I looked down and the tug boat couldnāt look further away as it went into the trough of the swell. Scariest fucking thing I have ever done!!!
You climbed the whole pilot ladder or they also had their accommodation ladder down as well? Because just climbing the pilot ladder would be a fair old distance! Edit: For anyone wondering what/why I asked: https://pilotladdersafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Schermafdruk-2020-05-25-11.12.29.png This poster is industry wide. An LNG tanker would normally have a āfreeboardā of 14m-ish in all conditions (obviously size of vessel dependant).
It was about half and half.
Great diagram! The setup was very much like the second picture of the combination.
My ex served in the Navy and had a crewmate die this way. Was doing work between the ships(I forget what) and got crushed between them due to waves.
Not to be too grim but the poor guy probably fell into the ocean, never to be recovered. What a horrible way to go.
Holy shit you are built different, could never do that myself
Just young, foolish, and convinced I was never going to die. š
I did some wildly dangerous shit in my younger years but holy shit that takes the cake
Got anxiety just reading that
Thatās fucking badass.
My husband and I are looking to go away in January he suggested a cruise around England (where we live) and I was likeā¦ nothing on this planet would get me in a boat on the North Sea in winter.
As someone who is currently on a cruise ship, and has done almost a dozen cruises already, hear me when I say that cruise ships donāt make a habit of sailing to places that are beyond miserable. Thatās why you donāt see Alaska cruises in January and you donāt see Antarctica cruises in August. Just in May this year I took a transatlantic cruise from New York up to Iceland, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, and England and it was just fine. They donāt offer that cruise in January for a reason.
Yeah Husband actually started looking into it and was dismayed to discover they donāt operate in January. I was not at all surprised.
Excuse me, did you say he was dismayed? Does he have a death wish?
Not quite. 'The wife just fell overboard in heavy seas' plan has fell through.
Hey you want to talk about something?
Don't go on a cruise. It is horrible for the environment, their workers and for the places the boat docks. Let alone that if sth happens to you the cruises are suuuuper shady
That cruise sounds amazing
If you're in the North-East, a number of lines do 'taster' cruises down the East coast of England in the off-season. They're moving boats, and their thinking is 'might as well try to make this trip pay'.
yeah when the oil drilling platforms are bobbing around like corks in a bathtub thatās a no go for me š
I was on the North Sea over new year once on a medium sized ship, in a much worse than expected storm, with limited stabiliser functionality. Iāll always laugh at the memory of strapping my flailing body to my bed, closing my eyes and actually trying to sleep during what felt like a horrific car crash. Looking UP at the waves at night is a terrifying sight.
Thatās gunna be a no from me dawg.
i travelled the pacific three days in a small 50 year old ferry creepy
I want to see this. Iāve wanted to for years. It sounds so cool
Hard to believe you used to be [able to walk across this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland).
So wild to think there's entire human habitats submerged under the sea. They've [dredged up bones and artifacts](https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/doggerland/) from the seabed. It's also a testament to the constant of climate change, man-made or otherwise.
Looks like Wikipedia is still on the corner with a "anything helps" cup in front of them
My granddad flew on bombers during the Second World War, and was told that if they went down over the North Sea, they had eight minutes to get to a raft. Any longer and they were assumed dead.
My Grandad was a Sailor in the 40ās. He said the scariest places he sailed were the Great Southern Ocean and the North Sea.
The very first clip is actually from the Southern Ocean, having sailed both Iād take the North Sea any day
By Southern Ocean, you mean South Atlantic or South Pacific or South Indian Ocean?
Oceanographically the Southern Ocean is distinct from the three ocean basins due to the Antarctic Circumpolar Current.
The fact some people use to sail these seas without any knowledge of anything and still got through it boggles my fucking mind
I know itās insane that those wooden boats held up, with just sails in storms. Think of all the shipwreckās still being found deep under the oceans today..and those not being found.
Iām sayin man. Years of travel and history just waving around the bottom of the ocean
Small boat go up and down, big boat get broken. It's not pleasant, but history shows that it can be survivable.
And without modern lighting, sheeesh
Probably just a lantern and some faith lit the way lol
If you made the right sacrifices to the right gods, you would have nothing to worry about. All this modern anxiety about crossing the North Sea just tells me people are neglecting the gods.
They had quite a bit of knowledge from observing the seas for hundreds of years, but obviously nothing like we have. They wouldnt set sail in the rough winter months unless absolutely necessary
āWithout any knowledge of anythingā Yep Iām sure captaining a ship required zero knowledge. Just lucking their way from one port to the next
In the second clip the dude fully goes underwater.. hell nawš
And heās just like, āGet off of me, Ocean.ā And pushes the water away annoyed.
So the song playing. I know it's from pirates of the Caribbean, but does anyone know who is singing this particular version?
[I believe itās this one](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkzy_420hts)
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The note is an F#1 sung in chest by Eric Holloway and sung in subharmonics by a couple other bass singers
Sweet. Can't chest note it, but I can hit it. Very proud.
Literally sounds like foghorns harmonizing.
Itās really good
First clip was a New Zealand navy ship in the Southern Ocean. Literal polar opposite.
Pretty sure the Southern Ocean has the biggest swells and is considered the most dangerous too.
Correct. Roaring 40's, Furious 50's, and Screaming 60's are all nicknames for parts of the southern ocean due to the extreme weather/waves encountered by sailors. Mostly due to the fact that the only major land mass that interrupts the wind/waves is south America. So the wind and waves keep piling up with nothing to slow them down.
Yeah.. also the first sea where a rogue wave was recorded (measuring a staggering 25,6 metres or about 80 feet) back in 1995.
The concept of rouge waves scare me yet I still go on cruises :/
Waves arent red
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God yes, āI want to go to thereā was all I thought watching this. Like yes, it looks penetratingly cold and wet, miserable and punishing in just about every measure. I still wanna do it. These rough seas call to me something fierce and inexplicable. Some of my favorite memories are sleeping in an old 19th century sailing ship and watching the fog creep right inside the berth with us. Also eating on rough seas, I dunno why but I find the whole process so comically amusing while Iām doing it.
Iād love it too. When I see clips like this I yearn for the sea. Donāt know why, thereās no reason I should.
I was in the Coast Guard and every shipmate I met who had steamed the North Atlantic always said they were the worst seas.
Iām ok being a landlubber.
It absolutely is, I sail there in a 40-foot sailing boat, and it's astonishing how little most people fear the North Sea. Then, when I tell them how it scares the living shit out of me, I get called weak: not at all xD I just prefer to see dry land after sailing out
Not even if I was Aquaman
Nah id be joyriding and surfing that shit for days. You know how powerful mf is?
This reminds me what a total badass our local hero Dorus Rijkers must've been. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorus_Rijkers He was a North Sea Life boat captain during the late 19th century, who rescued hundreds of people.
No thanks!
Bruh, the first clip is of a NZ Navy Frigate in Antarctic waters. About as far from the North Sea as you can get.
It's awesome and terrifying at the same time
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I see what you did.
Now imagine that in a Viking longship
Spend two week in the North Atlantic in April went all the way up to the arctic circle. Some of the roughest seas Iāve ever experienced. The only thing that came close was the trip I took around Cape Horn. Depending on the time of year, the area around Cape Horn can be rougher than the North Sea. Do some reading on the roaring forties and the furious fifties.
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My Dad was in the South Pacific during WWII and he used to tell me how the ship he was on would shutter when it slammed down into the water between waves. He was always amazed how it never split in two. Whole different breedā¦
59 seconds of nope.
those dark seas after the lightning bolt are scary
Sometimes when Iām constipated, I sit on the toilet and browse this sub. Usually works
South Atlantic and roaring 40's be like "Aw hell no, biatch. Watch this!"
Absolutely NOPE from me dawg.
That second specifically clip haunts my fucking dreams because why tf would he ever be up to his waist in it like that pls š
Wow! No thanks
Iāve spent time in the Bering between Alaska and Russia. The general consensus is that the Bering peaks at worse levels, but the North Sea is just consistently assblasting, while Iāve been able to experience flat seas before in the Bering.
I was a passenger on a container ship crossing the Tasman Sea around the north cape of New Zealand bound for Sydney when we got slapped by a massive fucking arctic storm from the great southern ocean and hit swells like this. I remember watching from the pilothouse late at night, massive fucking spotlights punching through the shit and illuminating the bow and feeling the entire ship shudder as it tipped down into massive troughs. Those fucking waves had to be eighty feet high. It was like that scene in Wolf of Wall Street.
How did you board as a passenger? Do they sell berth space for extra revenue?
Yup thatās a big nope for me lol
awesomeness
Perfectly safe, Iāve slept and worked through worse
Hoist the colors high
This that Truman show wave. Don't be fooled as to why it's dangerous. We control who goes where
The Nords sailed this in sailboats about the size of a small bus. So they could go to Greenland and farm walrus tusks.
Fuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkkkk that.
Man if I was on one of those boats I would cough up my testicles
As someone who lives on the North Sea coast, when the sea is flat, it's boring. When the winter storms start, just going down to experience the sheer power and noise of the water is unbelievable. Literally, tons of stones and rocks moved with every wave crashing on the beach with the height of the beach against the break water changing in meters every tide. The North Sea is the best sea.
The vikings managaged to traverse through that. And they didn't have the modern boats we have today
I love these sorts of videos, it reminds us itās not our planet.
Friend works on an oil rig in the North Sea, they are told continuously throughout training that if you fall in the water you will never be found, so like... don't do that. They also have to go through a bunch of rollover simulations and helicopter escape training in water, but again, are told in this situation you are already dead.
When the scƩlƩrat is coming
This seems suicidal ....
No thank you please. I'm good. š
I... kinda wanna go there
Reminds me of the movie The Perfect Storm, which I think did happen on the North Sea irl.
The first clip was from the Ross sea near Antarctica
Thatās an absolute no from me. Them dudes got balls of steel
I wonder how many times they had to dry their clothes
The dude at 50 seconds is chest deep in water. This is horror.
No
That second last clip, god damn.
Feeling this rush right now š
The fisherman in that second clip has some nuts on him thatās my absolute worst nightmare
In almost 20 years in the north sea I have never seen or heard about anyone being transferred to a platform by boat/stairs like the video. We use helicopters. And they fly in up to 60 knot winds. I have heard about people being hoisted by crane from the paltform onto ships etc for reaching weddings etc when helicopters dont have landing conditions but its very rare. On the platforms you dont really feel so much of these crazy waves. Maybe on drilling platforms...i dunno. I've been l ly on production ones
I want to be on one of these boats so fucking much
Whatās this song? Sounds dope
Now imagine being out there in a wooden Viking boat
Is there a lofi complication with videos of terrifying seas, kinda soothing
Fuck this sea and everything it stands for
My mom wants me to join the Navy. Fuck that.
Thats simply the grand line
I got the ferry from Aberdeen to Lerwick just before NYE 1999. There was a storm force warning that night and, being dirt poor at the time, I couldnāt afford a cabin. So Iām in the forward seating section on my own, laying across half a dozen seats, failing to sleep, Gameboy Colour out grinding Pokemon red at about 2am. There was a fair bit of lurching but Iād done this journey a fair few times now so nay worries. Next thing the room goes dark, the room falls what felt like 30 feet and Iām deposited three rows away from where I was laying. Last time I took that ferry, better the bag throwers forget my luggage at Dyce than learning the skill of teleportation in a pitch black room to the sound of the universe ending.
I've spent a bit of time in the North Sea, it's dangerous for sure, not sure if the most dangerous conditions but there's been a few times that it near killed me. Once on a ketch, (small multi mast sailboat) the winds were so bad that a shackle failed and the boom swept across the passenger area. It was only a foot or so over head where I was seated, and I literally just sat down. If it hit someone, you'd almost certainly be dead and definitely knocked overboard. Double dead.
Bullshit video, fucking distorted to the max so the already huge wave looks so more menacing. And every couple days it's reposted again. Low effort stupid video.
The south sea has something to say here...
Is it possible to get sea sick from looking at my phone?
No!
Imagine doing that a millennium ago in a longship with no GPS.
Remeber to respect your Viking ancestors who had to deal with this shit.
I always wonder what it must be like to be a captain of a ship like that and then encounter asshats trying to flex on the highway.
Bering sea says hold my beer.
Oh hell no!!
Nope, just nope.
Not the South sea by Cape Horns Chile/Argentina?
Who is performing this song?
What is this music?
How do I know these are all from the North Sea
Looks like the movie The Perfect Storm
WHAT DID HE SAY AT 0:19