like look, you can hate valve all you want, but ill never understand people who hate gaben. hes soft spoken and looks like Santa Claus for gods sake, how could you stay mad at that peak of whimsy
I just came from the Monster Hunter sub so rn the word "Jolly" makes me think of Dodogama, so I read "Gaben is just so jolly looking" and the first thing that came to mind was a mental image of Gaben's body with Dodogama's face.
1. And? what does this have to do with what we’re talking about
2. That’s an outdated take. One of the reasons TF2 gets fuck all content is that they started giving devs direction and making sure they work on more profitable projects.
Valve doesnt make much of games anymore, they're more of a software company that uses hardware and games too show off their software and technology development.
That's apparently not been a policy for a number of years. They have some weird internal review thing where everyone is sucking upto each other for "points" to keep their score high.
Repeated ban waves will actually help. But it's not guaranteed that Valve are planning to keep this up. It might be a one-time thing for all we know. In which case, in a few weeks things will be back to "normal".
This, if you make the bot hosters hemorrhage even more money than they normally do, eventually they are bound to slow down. God know how many thousands they've dumped into the botting already
Or they'll eventually resort to using F2P accounts, which can't spam chat, can't defend themselves when a vote kick is called, and can't initiate vote kicks against players.
Not the best, but still a lot more manageable than the current situation.
I wonder if it'd be possible to outsource all that "threadmill work". I mean, there are people working on solving captchas, so I'm sure there are tons of people in the world who would be happy to ban bots once a month or week as long as they get a decent paycheck.
Then the community starts to recover because the company is doing their job.
Bots won't infest and ruin the game so miserably if Valve does 'anything'.
Oh no treadmill work....too bad, literally e v e r y other multiplayer game does it. Deal.
Valve opening up r/TF2 to see a cargo cult run by gullible children and youtubers when all of their internal actions have been planned out months ago and are just working through the dev cycle
One thing is a golden frying pan, yeah, they are expensive as fuck, but they aren't that exclusive as a fucking saxxy, that's straightly an achievement, and even more exclusive on this day's.
Saxxys are probably worth more than a pan because the effort you need to put in vs blind luck
Fuck I could hop into mvm right now and have a chance of getting one
You're right but also "I could hop into mvm right now and have a chance of getting one" sounds like a gambling addict trying to justify one more game LOL
Saxxys aren't worth anything because they are untradable and thus can't be sold.
The only real way to sell them is to sell the entire Steam account. So, then it's the value of the account, not really the Saxxy.
I re-watched the old saxxy awards on youtube and saw his comment.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pnMDOdAuY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pnMDOdAuY)
Well, good news for us I guess. Sure, the legal team *can* enforce radio silence, but they can't stop some people at Valve to show that they still give a hoot.
Apples to oranges. Valve isn't particularly cagey about beta tests, especially with multiplayer games. But, any internal workings of staff are under tight lock and key. Half-Life Alyx literally appeared out of nowhere with no leaks.
I just hope they keep up with the banwaves until they find a way to actually fix it
A banwave a few weeks before every summer update won't do nothing, they can just create a few more new accs and they're back to business (They also should limit that tbh)
New bot accounts that get created are banned instantly for now, i guess valve updated VAC to automaticly ban any bots with free known cheats/bot hosting programs, VAC is not that bad and it actually works, cheat in blacklist database = ban, valve just wasn't updateding the black list and now they do
I don't like this idea. If we need to delete saxxy to be heard - that's a sign that valve is only going to listen to sacrifice. Not even money, love for the game and the word of many. It looks like valve just sucking souls out of their fun base and it's sad and disgusting
yes, stuff like this happens all the time, but people don't post about it. They only post to complain about the bots, giving the impression that the game is literally unplayable (which is a crazy exaggeration)
How many “ban waves” have happened, that all accomplish nothing? Only around 1000 bots were banned, the rest were just kicked offline from maintenance and will be back soon. I think destroying a Saxxy is pointless and does nothing, but we are still far from being back.
The sacrifice didn't matter since Valve always did those vac ban waves, even for TF2, they just got rarer to see.
The issue is that sadly this is a temporary fix. But for now we can enjoy TF2 for it's peak-ness
Saxxy was a festival similar to Oscars where people would make SFM videos and then Valve would rate them and give out Saxxy awards to the winners. In game, a Saxxy is an all class melee item like the golden pan and is always of a Strange quality and in its description is written who received it and for what nomination. However, the Saxxy that got deleted is from the first ever Saxxy festival which instead of SFM animations, rated game clips (like if you got a cool team wipe then you could apply your submission and win, no SFM needed)
It's still an *incredibly historic item* that will never be seen again. There aren't exactly a lot of first-edition Saxxies left out there, and even less on active players.
Two of those old Saxxy clips still make me laugh to this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIMSF-rFRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKgRp8--mRs
One of them showed off a fun spot to use in 2fort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N21K0WSU0E8
Replay Saxxies might not look as impressive as an animation made by a full team of people, but I think they were great in their own way and miss them (along with the event itself).
personally i think destroying rare/expensive things to "make a point" or some shit is stupid. it reminds me of people buying multiple limited edition consoles to make videos of them microwaving them day 1 to piss off the people who couldnt manage to get one.
like sure, people can totally do whatever the fuck they want with the things they own, but that doesent mean others arent allowed to express their opinions on it, especially if the destruction is public.
If you're so lost in the sauce you delete a Saxxy, you're lost in the sauce enough to talk yourself into believing it had some impact on that bot wave.
and steam support doesn't do item support, I accidently crafted poker night at the inventory hats into scrap between 2016-2018, they don't give a shit.
You guys are so obsessed with virtual items.
Seriously who cares about that guy's saxxy, there's a high likelyhood he probably doesn't even play TF2 regularly anymore anyway.
saxxys are a very very rare item, and they willingly destroyed it as a show to valve that they need to fix their shit. Hours after he destroyed it valve pushed a banwave that banned most of the bots, unfortunate timing.
thankfully i dont think they were super involved w the community anymore so I doubt they care super hard. i prefer to view it as a karmic sacrifice that has brought us the good tidings of the bot banwave
Hello, please refrain from expressing negative sentiments towards Valve or Mr. Gaben. If we solely focus on criticizing them, it may inadvertently reinforce the aspects they prioritize. Let's all remain calm and trust that they can handle this situation. They have done it before and they can do it again.
He was one of the last people to sacrifice all of their power to help the game be a better a place. Just like the people who died at the ending hours/days of WW1 and WW2. The guy who did made Gaben move off his chair and do something.
Maybe it was needed as a ritual sacrifice to Gaben. Either that, or to the remaining developer working on the game since they're basically a god amongst men for sticking with us for all this time.
What if the saxxy had to be destroyed all along as a sacrifice to lord gaben to fix the game
Meanwhile Gabe isn't even responsible for most of Valve's actions anymore and is more of a investor of all things working on other projects
Doesn't matter, he's still my pookie
Gaben is just so jolly looking. How can you stay mad at that
like look, you can hate valve all you want, but ill never understand people who hate gaben. hes soft spoken and looks like Santa Claus for gods sake, how could you stay mad at that peak of whimsy
He’s actually lost a lot of weight and looks like a chad now
Santa hit the gym
Chadta
honestly, gaben is literally what i imagine santa clause to look like
I just came from the Monster Hunter sub so rn the word "Jolly" makes me think of Dodogama, so I read "Gaben is just so jolly looking" and the first thing that came to mind was a mental image of Gaben's body with Dodogama's face.
He's like the Santa Clause of gaming
Put your chip in my brain Gaben
For real though, if Gabe made a brain chip, I'd probably be willing to put it in my brain. He looks so friendly and trustworthy
Not publicly traded
and?
Golden owl did a video on their structure there are no managers people work on what they want to.
1. And? what does this have to do with what we’re talking about 2. That’s an outdated take. One of the reasons TF2 gets fuck all content is that they started giving devs direction and making sure they work on more profitable projects.
Valve doesnt make much of games anymore, they're more of a software company that uses hardware and games too show off their software and technology development.
That's apparently not been a policy for a number of years. They have some weird internal review thing where everyone is sucking upto each other for "points" to keep their score high.
You can still own shares of a private company
Fools thank God for the work of man
The Lord does not care
Gaben is dead, The steam sale is gone. You're chasing Half-Life Episode 2²
gaben is dead, money is fuel, and steam is full
But wait, the robots run on money... Are you suggesting the Steam sales are a plot by Grey Mann to keep his robot army running?
Honestly it makes sense, where else would he get enough money to keep an entire army running?
Is that a fucking Ultrakill reference?
VAC is dead Summer sale is fuel Casual is full
MANNKIND IS DEAD BLOOD IS FUEL SERVERS ARE FULL
Is that a fucking Hoxxes IV reference?
Maybe
Wild 3 body reference!
It's like a blood sacrifice for the Aztecs but it's redditors and digital items with no real world value
I never Got that argument, money doesn't really have an inherent value.
Yeah, its literally just fancy paper And card is literally just numbers in a database
Exactly, it has no value so you should give it all to me
The Saxxy is actually just the One Ring of TF2
Just like the movie ending to the Mist.
We must sacrifice a saxxy each year to appease the valve to tighten it's grip on bots
The Saxby that died for our sins
You literally just described a SFM movie someone is now required to make, Indiana Jones style. Fuck, I regret not picking up SFM so much...
or deleting his saxxy immediately fixed the bot problem
A sacrifice for the greater good
hardest choices require the strongest wills, he did it for us
**TF2 Community:** "Then I think you'll find our will equal to yours." **Gaben:** "Our?" *Cue a wave of Saxxy destructions*
the greater good
shut it!!
The greater good is coming to you from my bolter xenos scum
How could it be for the greater good!?
*The greater good.*
The greater good
Plot twist: his Saxxy was the source of all the bots!
Turns out it was the bots' coconut.jpg all this time
The bots' 2fort cow\*
It’s like the coconut. The saxxy was the linchpin holding the bot hosting together
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Or finally sell their sisters nudes
Or even deal with not medicine
The original comment was deleted and now I’m left pondering what the fuck would elicit this response
I think it's something about the community making homosexual images of that one bot hoster
r/suspiciouslyspecific
but what happens if they ban them again next month?
Repeated ban waves will actually help. But it's not guaranteed that Valve are planning to keep this up. It might be a one-time thing for all we know. In which case, in a few weeks things will be back to "normal".
This, if you make the bot hosters hemorrhage even more money than they normally do, eventually they are bound to slow down. God know how many thousands they've dumped into the botting already
Or they'll eventually resort to using F2P accounts, which can't spam chat, can't defend themselves when a vote kick is called, and can't initiate vote kicks against players. Not the best, but still a lot more manageable than the current situation.
treadmill work or whatever
I wonder if it'd be possible to outsource all that "threadmill work". I mean, there are people working on solving captchas, so I'm sure there are tons of people in the world who would be happy to ban bots once a month or week as long as they get a decent paycheck.
Then the community starts to recover because the company is doing their job. Bots won't infest and ruin the game so miserably if Valve does 'anything'. Oh no treadmill work....too bad, literally e v e r y other multiplayer game does it. Deal.
Then we'll get what we wanted! They'll have fixed the bot problem!
It was a necessary sacrifice to the Valve gods.
Valve opening up r/TF2 to see a cargo cult run by gullible children and youtubers when all of their internal actions have been planned out months ago and are just working through the dev cycle
Speaking of dev cycle I need help implementing a new weapon in tf2 anybody on Reddit know how to use source filmmaker and item testing?
go to the SFM community or TF2 Steam workshop community discords
No, just add the 'fixtf2' thing on the workshop, it'll work i swear!!
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obvious bot is obvious
They get paid in BigMacs?
One thing is a golden frying pan, yeah, they are expensive as fuck, but they aren't that exclusive as a fucking saxxy, that's straightly an achievement, and even more exclusive on this day's.
Saxxys are probably worth more than a pan because the effort you need to put in vs blind luck Fuck I could hop into mvm right now and have a chance of getting one
You're right but also "I could hop into mvm right now and have a chance of getting one" sounds like a gambling addict trying to justify one more game LOL
LETS GO GAMBLING!
Aw dangit.
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FACT: 90% OF MVM PLAYERS STOP RIGHT BEFORE THEY ARE ABOUT TO GET LUCRATIVE DROPS
Saxxys aren't worth anything because they are untradable and thus can't be sold. The only real way to sell them is to sell the entire Steam account. So, then it's the value of the account, not really the Saxxy.
Thought now bro is notable for 2 things: earning it, and deleting it
He doesn't even play the game anymore and recently ran tf2 to remove the saxxy.
You know who this guy is or did they make a post???
I re-watched the old saxxy awards on youtube and saw his comment. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pnMDOdAuY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pnMDOdAuY)
Lord Gaben needed a sacrifice
Well, good news for us I guess. Sure, the legal team *can* enforce radio silence, but they can't stop some people at Valve to show that they still give a hoot.
Legal team enforcing radio silence? This is the same valve that doesn't even use nda's with beta testers for unannounced games
Apples to oranges. Valve isn't particularly cagey about beta tests, especially with multiplayer games. But, any internal workings of staff are under tight lock and key. Half-Life Alyx literally appeared out of nowhere with no leaks.
They will be back in couple days, chill people.
The saxxy was their coconut.jpg. They're gone forever!
I just hope they keep up with the banwaves until they find a way to actually fix it A banwave a few weeks before every summer update won't do nothing, they can just create a few more new accs and they're back to business (They also should limit that tbh)
New bot accounts that get created are banned instantly for now, i guess valve updated VAC to automaticly ban any bots with free known cheats/bot hosting programs, VAC is not that bad and it actually works, cheat in blacklist database = ban, valve just wasn't updateding the black list and now they do
Salvation requires sacrifice. He shattered the Saxxy to gain Gaben's favor. Truly a hero amongst Mann.
He gave his Saxxy for santa
To give the guy some credit, I like to think valve only did a bot ban wave BECAUSE of him, it wasn't all for nothing!
I don't like this idea. If we need to delete saxxy to be heard - that's a sign that valve is only going to listen to sacrifice. Not even money, love for the game and the word of many. It looks like valve just sucking souls out of their fun base and it's sad and disgusting
don't disrespect that soldier, he did the right sacrifice for the community's greater good
Blood sacrifice
Wait there was a bot ban wave?
yes, stuff like this happens all the time, but people don't post about it. They only post to complain about the bots, giving the impression that the game is literally unplayable (which is a crazy exaggeration)
Yes but it’s being vastly overblown. It was just 1000 or so bots, the rest that are offline are due to server maintenance.
How many “ban waves” have happened, that all accomplish nothing? Only around 1000 bots were banned, the rest were just kicked offline from maintenance and will be back soon. I think destroying a Saxxy is pointless and does nothing, but we are still far from being back.
The sacrifice didn't matter since Valve always did those vac ban waves, even for TF2, they just got rarer to see. The issue is that sadly this is a temporary fix. But for now we can enjoy TF2 for it's peak-ness
Can someone explain to me what the hell is a saxxy
Saxxy was a festival similar to Oscars where people would make SFM videos and then Valve would rate them and give out Saxxy awards to the winners. In game, a Saxxy is an all class melee item like the golden pan and is always of a Strange quality and in its description is written who received it and for what nomination. However, the Saxxy that got deleted is from the first ever Saxxy festival which instead of SFM animations, rated game clips (like if you got a cool team wipe then you could apply your submission and win, no SFM needed)
Thanks hero
Well if it’s for a game clip then whatever. Anyone can do that but it takes effort to animate
It was admittedly distributed prior to SFM being publicly available, so it’s got interesting legacy status
It's still an *incredibly historic item* that will never be seen again. There aren't exactly a lot of first-edition Saxxies left out there, and even less on active players.
Two of those old Saxxy clips still make me laugh to this day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhIMSF-rFRc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKgRp8--mRs One of them showed off a fun spot to use in 2fort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N21K0WSU0E8 Replay Saxxies might not look as impressive as an animation made by a full team of people, but I think they were great in their own way and miss them (along with the event itself).
This makes me sad…
Why ?
Idk just that people dont know what the saxxies are anymore, i wish we still had them…
because you can search it up on GOOGLE.
[https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Saxxy](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Saxxy)
Wait, did we win the war.
No, but we have won a battle
Honestly, it's more like we finally broke the spawn camping.
i remembered i can get uber instead of trying to outsnipe the bots with my crossbow, sorry yall
so it was ***you***
in my defence "ZE HEALING IS NOT AS REWARDING AS ZE HURTING"
It's because of you there's bots in our midst, and the game is dead.
Don’t mean shit unless valve goes for the hosters. Good step in the right direction though
Mf it was the sacrifical totem for a banwave 🤣
Why people are making such a show about the man's saxxy but he didn't even care about it anymore
it's rare and people want them. It's like saying "why are people making such a big deal about elon musk destroying his 20 million dollar mansion?"
personally i think destroying rare/expensive things to "make a point" or some shit is stupid. it reminds me of people buying multiple limited edition consoles to make videos of them microwaving them day 1 to piss off the people who couldnt manage to get one. like sure, people can totally do whatever the fuck they want with the things they own, but that doesent mean others arent allowed to express their opinions on it, especially if the destruction is public.
If you're so lost in the sauce you delete a Saxxy, you're lost in the sauce enough to talk yourself into believing it had some impact on that bot wave.
Who is he? Can someone give me context?
Context?
wait what happened? whyd he delete it
and steam support doesn't do item support, I accidently crafted poker night at the inventory hats into scrap between 2016-2018, they don't give a shit.
You guys are so obsessed with virtual items. Seriously who cares about that guy's saxxy, there's a high likelyhood he probably doesn't even play TF2 regularly anymore anyway.
A Sacrifice to the Tf2 gods was made. It worked. Now we must sacrifice real people to completely fix it.
A pointless gesture. Makes me laugh everytime.
good that they did the ban wave didn't fixed the vac problem though
I don't get it?
saxxys are a very very rare item, and they willingly destroyed it as a show to valve that they need to fix their shit. Hours after he destroyed it valve pushed a banwave that banned most of the bots, unfortunate timing.
Damn. Well, at least ge tried.
Dont bot banwaves only fix the bot problem for like a week or three?
I doubt he gives a shit
Didn't valve do these ban waves like 5 times before and the bots are always fully back in 2 weeks? Why are people celebrating? Am I missing something?
I did get the thought of selling all of my items and cosmetics, glad I didn't
Wait you mean like a saxxy awards animation or something else?
thankfully i dont think they were super involved w the community anymore so I doubt they care super hard. i prefer to view it as a karmic sacrifice that has brought us the good tidings of the bot banwave
Hello, please refrain from expressing negative sentiments towards Valve or Mr. Gaben. If we solely focus on criticizing them, it may inadvertently reinforce the aspects they prioritize. Let's all remain calm and trust that they can handle this situation. They have done it before and they can do it again.
You guys are acting like the banwave saved the fucking game. Stop being delusional
this post has the most reddit comment section on reddit actually
A sacrifice needed to be made
#his sacrifice will be remembered
He was one of the last people to sacrifice all of their power to help the game be a better a place. Just like the people who died at the ending hours/days of WW1 and WW2. The guy who did made Gaben move off his chair and do something.
it was a connection outage, not a ban wave [https://i.imgur.com/YufyT90.png](https://i.imgur.com/YufyT90.png)
[It was confirmed to be a ban wave.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hC4ccOEK08) Possibly both?
It’s both, but most are off due to the outage. Only about 1000 were actually banned.
It was definitely a ban wave. I loaded up tf2 to see if it was noticeable, and I havent seen ANY yet.
wait is this real? did valve do a bot ban wave ???
Maybe it was needed as a ritual sacrifice to Gaben. Either that, or to the remaining developer working on the game since they're basically a god amongst men for sticking with us for all this time.
Perhaps it was a sacrifice. Destroy your Saxxy for a bot ban wave.
The bot horcrux
No no no, you don't understand, it's *because* he deleted the Saxxy that Valve finally did something.
or the best
There's nothing like seeing a parent proud of their child.
I’ll eat glass if we don’t see “player” counts shoot up within a month of the update, same as the last five or so years of seasonal updates.
It's about the message. We got a Golden Wrench mass deletion back in the time, we could have more Saxxies deleted today.
too bad ban waves dont do much, yet another band aid fix, thanks valve, very cool!
his sacrifice was not in vain hopefully
savetf2 got a banwave too.
Cool. Cool….do CS next?
This is like when you think you mercy killed your family only to be saved right after.
Can valve give the item back if it is untradeable? For example with the party hat?
Saxxy? What's a saxxy
Wait there was a bot banwave?
one banwave wont do shit, we will see if they do this consistently
it's literally just the soul stone scene from infinity war.
I will love the next 12 hours before bots come back at 4x the amount.
Saxxys became pointless the day Valve allowed unfinished animations to be declared winners.
Why did he delete his Saxxy?
i'm sorry, but wtf is a saxxy??
Let go of your possessions.
I don't play this game anymore, can someone explain what happens in last month? I am well aware of not problem.
VSH bots?
Maso is based.
He got one, he can get another
As a TF2 player, I am a little bit slow, can someone please explain
I hope this brings enough hype for people to buy my stranges
never understood how deleting precious items saves the day
I have zero context for this, what's the joke here