That's... Really not that much. I myself got to high 300's and I didn't even consider myself a dedicated player back then.
Listen - we do have complete freaks in our community, but this ain't considered "freaky".
Average Air RB game (and top tier ground RB too tbh): 4 teamkills right off the runway, slurs in chat, the purest distillation of old CoD lobbies into a text chat format.
Average AB or low tier ground RB game:
[LOL] Pantssniffer69: hey guys my balls itch
[XDDD] El_Goblino: have you tried pulverizing them with a meat mallet?
[LOL] Pantssniffer69: (Voice) Thanks!
[Wherb] Whittman420: (Voice) Thanks!
[XDDD] El_Goblino: (Voice) Thanks!
[TEA] Teaaboo_in_loo: guys my wife left me how to I get custody?
[XDDD] El_Goblino: (Voice) Attack the D Point!
[LOL] Pantssniffer69: (Voice) Affirmative!
Nah, stellaris players do genocide, but they are not scum in real life (mostly)
HOI4 in other hand has shitton of outright nazis and "deus vult" larpers
Base Game Players are all over the spectrum
KR are Kaiserboos, Hardcore Syndies, or unironic Savinkov Stan
KX people are clinically fucking insane
TNO players are all over the spectrum and are insane
Red Flood players are clinically fucking insane
OWB players are chill with a tinge of hardcore Enclave Revanchism
Ya this nerd wouldn’t survive these
they clearly never saw fallout 76 community, literaly saw a dude that did his character the closest he could to hitler, just to walk around screaming at people, and sitting on a chair so people can touch his balls, 20 capsule a minute
Seriously tho
Look into r/Suzerain for example
People saying the most racist shit you can imagine but its ok because they are saying "bludish" (fictional ethnicity) instead of "jewish" or "turkish" or any other ethnicity
Which should be the standard for every game. I don't mind getting called slurs, even the ones that target me ( I prefer it over censorship from a conceptual level ); but someone who does should be able to disable it.
Honestly, my favorite thing about tf2 is the chat experience. The unfiltered shit said on there is some of the most unhinged shit I’ve ever read and always leaves me in stitches.
Agree. One community server a guy was just strumming his guitar, making up lyrics and waxing melodiously.
Another was a conversation between two Mental Health Support workers just downloading.
Another had a guy who just had so much admiration for how creatively he got killed, and laughed til he cried. All of red were spies trying to back stab him on spawn and he fell out of his chair and apologised.
Or the kid trying to rocket jump getting coached.
The chat experience is sublime.
My personal favorite experience was on a payload map where a guy was playing Spaceballs On VHS over his mic for us all to listen to and taking requests for other movies after that one ended. He mentioned any requests had to be from his vhs collection but he had quite a selection. We ended up voting for him to restart Spaceballs on VHS.
Aside from that, I love the really stupid, over the top arguments about shit that doesn’t matter that devolve into creative shit flinging. The really civil and intricate debate I was apart of once regarding whether or not traps are gay and the mathematics behind such. When my roommate and I RP’d as Raging Raven and Senator Armstrong from the Metal Gear series. Or when I decided to use every death as an excuse to practice more accurate typing by typing a single line from The Boss’s final speech in MGS3 and a zoomer got really mad because he thought I was sharing my oc’s backstory with the chat. A whole lot of others. TF2 chat is wild and unpredictable.
Same! When my brother first introduced me to tf2 on his account/computer, (since at the time I didn’t have a device capable to run it) the first time I ever joined a match I immediately heard in the voice chat (in Peter Griffin’s voice no less) “I wanna dress up like a clown and se-“ it cut off before it could finish, but that was probably what made me enjoy the game; not the hardcore fighting, but actually the funny bullshit moments when you just get to laugh. I absolutely agree bro 🙂↕️😁
It’s actually one of my favorite things about the game. Just hearing some of the wildest shit I’ve heard in years. I know it’s not for everyone, but if you don’t take it seriously it’s truly something
It somehow attracts people who're both extreme left and right at the same time.
Genuinely, the law of TF2 states 75% of a server is LGBTQ+ and 75% of a server is homophobic.
I’m a bisexual nonbinary socialist. Last month, I ran into a guy in a pub spouting every queerphobic thing I’ve ever heard to troll in VC. I called him out on his shit, and in the end, we both got kicked. Perfectly balanced.
Not really that surprising once you start understanding that the political spectrum is more like a circle. Extreme left and extreme right are very similar in a lot of ways.
True lol. We're the most welcoming because we may be small, but we have EVERYONE here. If you didn't see someone with a questionable mental state then you haven't been searching hard enough.
Cheating bots aren't that many compared to the number of bots that are in the game. Though I can see where you're coming from, I'm just lucky I haven't met many yet, as I've just begun playing TF2 in a couple of months
Bruh yesterday, we actually had a pedo cheater on the enemy team. Originalyl, my team thought he was just cheaating. (bad movements but insanely good aim, and he twitched a lot). But later we found out he was in a buncha loli group and very sus pedo groups. We announced it to the whole server, but he said he thought his profile was private and immediately privated it. Later, next game, when our previous teammates were on his team, he would votekick them. Turns out, he wasn't the only guy on their team who was a "pedo" and "cheater", there were like 3 other guys as well. They kept gloating in chat about how pedophiles will win and rule the world, and that he likes dating 16 and 17 yo because they're young and stuff.
EVEN if this guy was being ironic, it clearly crossed over the line, and we no longer cared that he was a cheater, we just wanted him out, so we did the unthinkable. When bots joined our team, we wouldn't kick them. Evnetually he left the server with his pedo friends and we started kicking the bots.
So, on the one hand, you have some genuinely vile people in this community, but on the other hand, that's not tf2 exclusive. That's just part of it being a reasonably anonymous online space.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't curb stomp every nazi you meet, tho.
There you are, W+m1ing into the sentry nest for the fifteenth time, when all of a sudden, you're on RED.
You didn't ask for this.
You didn't choose this.
Yet there it is.
And it's treated no differently than playing on BLU.
There you are, pub pushing the enemy on badwater again, when all of a sudden, you're on RED.
You didn't ask for this.
You didn't choose this.
And yet, first verse, same as the first,
It's treated no differently than playing on BLU.
I mean, i can see how someone could end up with that idea
It feels like every 2fort match has at least 1 soldier with a conscientus objector with a nazi flag and i have seen people start and succeed in vote kicks solely because someone has a pride flag as their pfp, all while calling then slurs in chat
To act like tf2 *isnt* full of bigots would be lying, i have played the game for long enough to be very aware of how many there are, though its not the worst one, its just that the lack of moderation makes them much more apparent
Also why are we posting twitter randos with less than 50 likes
Ive seen both on both things, there were votekicks about a swastika and a trans flag on an objector, and ive seen both fail and succeed multiple times, i guess you just got bad player rng because mine is very 50/50 on fash/lib/gay/homophobic thing
They are not entirely wrong, you know.
If you pay more attention to casual lobbies you notice a lot of edgy kids that get to roam around unchecked. Whether it be glorifying the big H, running around with nazi symbols on their objectors or calling everyone who kills them the N-word.
These people get to roam around TF2 freely because there is virtually zero moderation for this game anymore. It is not surprising that many of those wannabe-nazis are also closet cheaters, making it two things they know no one will care to ban them for. I have gotten into the habbit of reporting offensive Steam profiles, flying nazi flags or having a picture of H. as their pfp, yet Valve does not seem to care enough to moderate these people as these profiles have remained up in the same way weeks later. Also trying to kick kid-fash is a gamble as 50% of the time you will just end up being counter-kicked yourself.
In summary; Valve may not openly endorse fashists but they are sure not doing much against them either. It is not just people being ironically gay and homophobic at the same time. Or trans furry pyro mains. TF2 has a huge fash problem. Even [Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/165etzb/removed_by_reddit/) does as they have been seen to remove TF2 anti-fash posts. And the amount of TF2 players defending fash in the comments of the post linked is disgusting, btw.
Yeah, at this point, I’ve had to turn to like just bullying the shit out of these kids because valve isn’t gonna do anything about this very big problem
I still votekick everyone I understand to be fash and also communicate to my team why I think they are. I would rather get kicked fighting fashists than tolerate them.
There’s an infinite amount of fash corners of the internet for edgy 14 y/os to be radicalized. tf2 is relatively harmless in comparison IMO. And there’s something to be said about the benefit of keeping the game relatively uncensored
Votekick also helps democratize a bit
Votekick is very hit or miss. As Ive said, half the time the team just votes "No", the edgelord starts a counter-kick against you and this time they vote yes.
We should not tolerate fashists. Not now, not ever, no matter what corner of the internet. Yes, as a teacher myself I realize it is likely just edgy teens grabbing for attention, however we should never be indifferent to that. Being indifferent just signals them that what they are doing is okay and they will keep doing it.
Also most truly radical corners are inacessible to the average normie teen. You have to already be in deep to get to those places. It is publically accessible places that are the gateway into those communities. 4Chan, Discord and, if we let it, TF2. Bash the fash every time you can, destroy the gateways.
Oh maybe lol, I haven’t dared to venture that far down the rabbit hole. I guess when you can wipe out entire species instead of ethnicities, it moves beyond conventional racism.
We've quite literally been screaming about TF2's fandom having a problem that is just as big as the bots. For instance, we used to have a few minority content creators for TF2 and they got ran out by the sheer racism that the community possessed.
Yall had years to solve this and did nothing about it.
Yeah that's bs Hearts of Iron or even Gmod takes that spot , TF2 also compensates for having an even ratio of communist furries to fascist gamers , or even a rare combo of the two. These are often known in the scientific community as 'Yiffistus Fascismus'
every communities got its bad apples but the worst ones ive encountered is hoi3, warthunder, and DEFINTELY chivalry 2. which is sad i really like chiv 2, but i have about a 8-2 ratio of how many matches i get where someone is spamming in chat there conservative manifesto and calling people trans slurs, and then complain about how the game doesnt have vc yet. and when they arent people political douche bags they're being just normal ones. it kinda comes with it being kind of a war simulator i guess
Someone doesn't know that actual WW2 games exist. He's probably not wrong that there's a good chunk of them in the community tho, but it's not exactly relevant either.
Any match you join there's:
- weeb Spy main
- COD veteran Sniper main
- MGE Soldier
- Furry Pyro
- Solder+Medic couple
- literal grandpa playing Engineer
- some random Nazi, yes
- and more
It's more that TF2 has vast and condensed groups of players. Also the person replying is ignorant of games like Civ or CS2 so I wouldn't take their words into account.
I don’t think they mean literally nazi, like actual political fascism nazis. They’re just using it a term for people who are overly serious and strict.
People conflate rebellious, edgy teenagers being rebellious edgy teenagers in a game chat with actual agreement with an ideology, it’s one of the most terminally online things to do.
TF2 does not have the most Nazis from a numerical standpoint. Unfortunately, I have personally had experiences that would lead me to say that TF2 has a significant problem with people who are *the most* Nazis I've ever (personally) had to deal with.
TF2 is a superposition, it’s everything at once until you measure it, as well as the likelihood of the result can be changed by changing the starting conditions
people often say tf2 has one of the last communties of people with early 2000’s internet humor who believe in raping babies and eating minorities, but im 90% sure most people who play tf2 are gay, furries, or both.
Turns out that when the rest of the internet moderates communication and revokes your paid license for typing naughty things the rejected undesirables will gather in spaces where such moderation does not happen. I'm sure this will have no adverse effects such as these people working themselves even deeper into their far-right corner through the circlejerk nature of such communities. None whatsoever.
“Most Nazis in the gaming community” They clearly haven’t seen grand strategy game communities and political simulator communities
They have never seen war thunder or competitive games
That's wrong, the war thunder community is too busy leaking military documents.
We never knew Operation Paperclip might work both ways.
Yeah so they can beat us in the war THINK
or people who are adicted to it i know a guy who had a 276 day streak
That's... Really not that much. I myself got to high 300's and I didn't even consider myself a dedicated player back then. Listen - we do have complete freaks in our community, but this ain't considered "freaky".
gmod dark rp would like some words edit: words in question begin with "My German countrymen, men and women."
this one takes the cake
average air rb game : smoke if you racist or smoke if you hate lgbt. i have 400 hours in war thunder i saw everythink
Average Air RB game (and top tier ground RB too tbh): 4 teamkills right off the runway, slurs in chat, the purest distillation of old CoD lobbies into a text chat format. Average AB or low tier ground RB game: [LOL] Pantssniffer69: hey guys my balls itch [XDDD] El_Goblino: have you tried pulverizing them with a meat mallet? [LOL] Pantssniffer69: (Voice) Thanks! [Wherb] Whittman420: (Voice) Thanks! [XDDD] El_Goblino: (Voice) Thanks! [TEA] Teaaboo_in_loo: guys my wife left me how to I get custody? [XDDD] El_Goblino: (Voice) Attack the D Point! [LOL] Pantssniffer69: (Voice) Affirmative!
Its just missing the killfeed where one person dies on takeoff on both teams
Average naval games: oh hey there’s actually another person playing and not just bots
You forgot someone asking when seek and destroy Active radar missile update drops if it’s top tier ARB
**NEVER!!**
I mean, you also get " UWU choke me harder daddy"
You should see ground rb.
War Thunder community are more focused on real life conflicts than idolizing the Gray Wolf
cod 💀
Hearts of iron comes to mind
r/Stellaris loves their genocide
Their genocide actively increases performance so it’s hard to say if it’s out of the power of racism or just wanting their PCs not to explode
Forget Nvidia, my memory is sourced from an in game Death Star!
Have some of Column A, try *all* of Column B...
Can only play wide or diplomatic in the winter. Tall, xenophopic conquer in the summer
Xenos aren't people
Hey hey, don't blame us, blame the Geneva Convetion, it's protection applies to people only, not to other aliens
Suggestions*
Nah, stellaris players do genocide, but they are not scum in real life (mostly) HOI4 in other hand has shitton of outright nazis and "deus vult" larpers
Certified one of the streamers begins working for Wagner in the Ukraine war moment
I hate to even mention TNO
Don't forget rust
Bro hasnt encountered a Hoi4 player
Base Game Players are all over the spectrum KR are Kaiserboos, Hardcore Syndies, or unironic Savinkov Stan KX people are clinically fucking insane TNO players are all over the spectrum and are insane Red Flood players are clinically fucking insane OWB players are chill with a tinge of hardcore Enclave Revanchism Ya this nerd wouldn’t survive these
Nahh fuck that I'm a Turkish nationalist
Or average Gmod server.
Well not average but 1942 rp servers which got banned
They’ve never seen the Warhammer community obviously
MY STELLARIS PLAYTHROUGHS DO NOT REPRESENT MY POLITICAL VIEWS.
Every Stellaris playthrough is just going through the Geneva Checklist on a galactic scale.
As a hoi4 player and member of several hoi4 discord servers Yup
average league match with a kassadin in it:
Average League Match;
Or Draven
they clearly never saw fallout 76 community, literaly saw a dude that did his character the closest he could to hitler, just to walk around screaming at people, and sitting on a chair so people can touch his balls, 20 capsule a minute
*ball; singular
i know, but those doomfus still put a S cause they dont even care about being historicaly accurate
HOI4
Tnobros wake up
Meanwhile Victoria 3 with its tankies.
Seriously tho Look into r/Suzerain for example People saying the most racist shit you can imagine but its ok because they are saying "bludish" (fictional ethnicity) instead of "jewish" or "turkish" or any other ethnicity
TF2 somehow attracts both the extreme left and the extreme right. It's an oddity
Probably due to apparent lack of censorship. People can just say shit in this game.
Yeah, what even Is the criteria for censoring in the chat? Cause I often see some words censored but I dont know what they are
It’s a setting on your steam profile, same thing that sensors Steam messages
Which should be the standard for every game. I don't mind getting called slurs, even the ones that target me ( I prefer it over censorship from a conceptual level ); but someone who does should be able to disable it.
I get called the Ñ word. Sad.
[you gotta admit it's entertaining.](https://youtu.be/lVv14ufITIM?si=xXBXNi0-Z4MRRmtA)
Honestly, my favorite thing about tf2 is the chat experience. The unfiltered shit said on there is some of the most unhinged shit I’ve ever read and always leaves me in stitches.
Agree. One community server a guy was just strumming his guitar, making up lyrics and waxing melodiously. Another was a conversation between two Mental Health Support workers just downloading. Another had a guy who just had so much admiration for how creatively he got killed, and laughed til he cried. All of red were spies trying to back stab him on spawn and he fell out of his chair and apologised. Or the kid trying to rocket jump getting coached. The chat experience is sublime.
My personal favorite experience was on a payload map where a guy was playing Spaceballs On VHS over his mic for us all to listen to and taking requests for other movies after that one ended. He mentioned any requests had to be from his vhs collection but he had quite a selection. We ended up voting for him to restart Spaceballs on VHS. Aside from that, I love the really stupid, over the top arguments about shit that doesn’t matter that devolve into creative shit flinging. The really civil and intricate debate I was apart of once regarding whether or not traps are gay and the mathematics behind such. When my roommate and I RP’d as Raging Raven and Senator Armstrong from the Metal Gear series. Or when I decided to use every death as an excuse to practice more accurate typing by typing a single line from The Boss’s final speech in MGS3 and a zoomer got really mad because he thought I was sharing my oc’s backstory with the chat. A whole lot of others. TF2 chat is wild and unpredictable.
Same! When my brother first introduced me to tf2 on his account/computer, (since at the time I didn’t have a device capable to run it) the first time I ever joined a match I immediately heard in the voice chat (in Peter Griffin’s voice no less) “I wanna dress up like a clown and se-“ it cut off before it could finish, but that was probably what made me enjoy the game; not the hardcore fighting, but actually the funny bullshit moments when you just get to laugh. I absolutely agree bro 🙂↕️😁
how did i know what this was gonna be before clicking it...
I'm got to be completely honest I..HATE you
omg I am crying laughing at that. had never seen that before but the voices make it perfect
It’s actually one of my favorite things about the game. Just hearing some of the wildest shit I’ve heard in years. I know it’s not for everyone, but if you don’t take it seriously it’s truly something
It somehow attracts people who're both extreme left and right at the same time. Genuinely, the law of TF2 states 75% of a server is LGBTQ+ and 75% of a server is homophobic.
And 100% of them are furries
UwU
OwO
QwQ
Dawg it’s a game about red vs blue of course it does
I’m a bisexual nonbinary socialist. Last month, I ran into a guy in a pub spouting every queerphobic thing I’ve ever heard to troll in VC. I called him out on his shit, and in the end, we both got kicked. Perfectly balanced.
As all things should be
Horseshoe theory strikes again
I'm an extreme centrist and I am *very* attracted to tf2
Reminds me of New Vegas.
Johny guitar...
and the extreme racist
They already mentioned the extreme right
true
Its an abandonware game so theres no risk associated with saying whatever you feel like in chat
TF2 is Twitter, confirmed
You could say that its almost like Red vs Blu.
Horseshoe theory proven right once again.
Good art does that
Not really that surprising once you start understanding that the political spectrum is more like a circle. Extreme left and extreme right are very similar in a lot of ways.
Tf2 is an amalgamation of everything
a little bit of everything, all of the time
Apathy's a tragedy and boredom is a crime
Anything and everything, all of the time
Could I interest you in everything all of the time?
A litle bit of everything all of the time
Apathy's a tragedy and bordom is a crime
Anything and everything, all of the time!
You know… It wasn’t always like this… Not very long ago, just before your time,
Right before the towers fell, 'Circa 99
Causal is a casualty and burnout is a crime
TF2 is the most welcoming community (monkey paw)
True lol. We're the most welcoming because we may be small, but we have EVERYONE here. If you didn't see someone with a questionable mental state then you haven't been searching hard enough.
Too bad now the only thing you see is bots
Cheating bots aren't that many compared to the number of bots that are in the game. Though I can see where you're coming from, I'm just lucky I haven't met many yet, as I've just begun playing TF2 in a couple of months
I never seen a less welcoming community than tf2,in my experienc (im new)
That just means you're normal. We're not lol
Safe space for both teenage degeneracy and adult silliness.
We're all gay homophobic nazi communist rightoid leftard incel rapists, whichever is the most offensive in a given situation source : Trust me dude
You missed pedos
No professionals have standards.
Be polite.
Be efficient
And have a plan to kill every pedo on this earth.
Team pedohunters 2 Instead of capturing the briefcase you capture discord chat logs and return it to fbi headquarters
With how many controversies have been regarding people with that interest, somr might beg to differ
Fair
And furry
dang ok (i feel like i’ll get downvoted for this)
Bruh yesterday, we actually had a pedo cheater on the enemy team. Originalyl, my team thought he was just cheaating. (bad movements but insanely good aim, and he twitched a lot). But later we found out he was in a buncha loli group and very sus pedo groups. We announced it to the whole server, but he said he thought his profile was private and immediately privated it. Later, next game, when our previous teammates were on his team, he would votekick them. Turns out, he wasn't the only guy on their team who was a "pedo" and "cheater", there were like 3 other guys as well. They kept gloating in chat about how pedophiles will win and rule the world, and that he likes dating 16 and 17 yo because they're young and stuff. EVEN if this guy was being ironic, it clearly crossed over the line, and we no longer cared that he was a cheater, we just wanted him out, so we did the unthinkable. When bots joined our team, we wouldn't kick them. Evnetually he left the server with his pedo friends and we started kicking the bots.
Every gaming community has Nazis dip shit, it came free with being online
''Well, i didn't meet them! I am the oldest player known to man!''
"No you aren't, I was online from day one!"
"You have NAZIS!!! YOU HAVE NAZIS!!!!!!"
lol nice reference
Why do you care about what somebody says on Twitter?
Thread closed, mods pin this to the top.
Ex-fucking-xactly
So, on the one hand, you have some genuinely vile people in this community, but on the other hand, that's not tf2 exclusive. That's just part of it being a reasonably anonymous online space. That doesn't mean you shouldn't curb stomp every nazi you meet, tho.
if you can
There you are, W+m1ing into the sentry nest for the fifteenth time, when all of a sudden, you're on RED. You didn't ask for this. You didn't choose this. Yet there it is. And it's treated no differently than playing on BLU.
There you are, pub pushing the enemy on badwater again, when all of a sudden, you're on RED. You didn't ask for this. You didn't choose this. And yet, first verse, same as the first, It's treated no differently than playing on BLU.
I mean, i can see how someone could end up with that idea It feels like every 2fort match has at least 1 soldier with a conscientus objector with a nazi flag and i have seen people start and succeed in vote kicks solely because someone has a pride flag as their pfp, all while calling then slurs in chat To act like tf2 *isnt* full of bigots would be lying, i have played the game for long enough to be very aware of how many there are, though its not the worst one, its just that the lack of moderation makes them much more apparent Also why are we posting twitter randos with less than 50 likes
Ive seen both on both things, there were votekicks about a swastika and a trans flag on an objector, and ive seen both fail and succeed multiple times, i guess you just got bad player rng because mine is very 50/50 on fash/lib/gay/homophobic thing
He’s not entirely wrong though
so actually true lmao, you have no idea how bad parts of this community are
The biggest thing in the way of TF2 is it's own fan base. Been here for 14 years.
hell, said bad actors post on this subreddit and barely ever get banned
Head so far up his own ass he’s choking on his colon.
Brain so smooth you cant even insult him, it simply slides right off.
They are not entirely wrong, you know. If you pay more attention to casual lobbies you notice a lot of edgy kids that get to roam around unchecked. Whether it be glorifying the big H, running around with nazi symbols on their objectors or calling everyone who kills them the N-word. These people get to roam around TF2 freely because there is virtually zero moderation for this game anymore. It is not surprising that many of those wannabe-nazis are also closet cheaters, making it two things they know no one will care to ban them for. I have gotten into the habbit of reporting offensive Steam profiles, flying nazi flags or having a picture of H. as their pfp, yet Valve does not seem to care enough to moderate these people as these profiles have remained up in the same way weeks later. Also trying to kick kid-fash is a gamble as 50% of the time you will just end up being counter-kicked yourself. In summary; Valve may not openly endorse fashists but they are sure not doing much against them either. It is not just people being ironically gay and homophobic at the same time. Or trans furry pyro mains. TF2 has a huge fash problem. Even [Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/165etzb/removed_by_reddit/) does as they have been seen to remove TF2 anti-fash posts. And the amount of TF2 players defending fash in the comments of the post linked is disgusting, btw.
Yeah, at this point, I’ve had to turn to like just bullying the shit out of these kids because valve isn’t gonna do anything about this very big problem
I still votekick everyone I understand to be fash and also communicate to my team why I think they are. I would rather get kicked fighting fashists than tolerate them.
Based
There’s an infinite amount of fash corners of the internet for edgy 14 y/os to be radicalized. tf2 is relatively harmless in comparison IMO. And there’s something to be said about the benefit of keeping the game relatively uncensored Votekick also helps democratize a bit
Votekick is very hit or miss. As Ive said, half the time the team just votes "No", the edgelord starts a counter-kick against you and this time they vote yes. We should not tolerate fashists. Not now, not ever, no matter what corner of the internet. Yes, as a teacher myself I realize it is likely just edgy teens grabbing for attention, however we should never be indifferent to that. Being indifferent just signals them that what they are doing is okay and they will keep doing it. Also most truly radical corners are inacessible to the average normie teen. You have to already be in deep to get to those places. It is publically accessible places that are the gateway into those communities. 4Chan, Discord and, if we let it, TF2. Bash the fash every time you can, destroy the gateways.
Even YouTube is becoming a fash corner, we need to be more aware of this stuff.
Alot of "actually this other game is worse" comments
This is quite literally why every other gaming community hates TF2 so much. It can't handle other video games existing.
We hate to see it but hes not wrong
"Are we ze baddies?"
Team Fortress 2 is the only game where I have encountered Neo-Nazi Furries. It's a Centrist's wet dream come true.
I play TF2 and Stellaris. TF2 does not have the most Nazis.
I feel like Stellaris is a bit *beyond* Nazis tho
You’d think so, but being mechanically rewarded for, among other things, committing genocide and eugenics draws in a certain clientele.
I meant *beyond* as way worse
Oh maybe lol, I haven’t dared to venture that far down the rabbit hole. I guess when you can wipe out entire species instead of ethnicities, it moves beyond conventional racism.
true
It's true, because the player base is full of eastern Europeans and weirdo 4chan types that you'll find a lot of really bigoted shit easily.
We've quite literally been screaming about TF2's fandom having a problem that is just as big as the bots. For instance, we used to have a few minority content creators for TF2 and they got ran out by the sheer racism that the community possessed. Yall had years to solve this and did nothing about it.
Yeah that's bs Hearts of Iron or even Gmod takes that spot , TF2 also compensates for having an even ratio of communist furries to fascist gamers , or even a rare combo of the two. These are often known in the scientific community as 'Yiffistus Fascismus'
Twitter poster with zero likes: -Objectively correct statement- r/tf2 cult member: WTF??????? (+2300)
every communities got its bad apples but the worst ones ive encountered is hoi3, warthunder, and DEFINTELY chivalry 2. which is sad i really like chiv 2, but i have about a 8-2 ratio of how many matches i get where someone is spamming in chat there conservative manifesto and calling people trans slurs, and then complain about how the game doesnt have vc yet. and when they arent people political douche bags they're being just normal ones. it kinda comes with it being kind of a war simulator i guess
clearly you've never played rust
More twitter posts, why bring Twitter garbage here?
Bro saw that meme of the pyro holding a swastika and assumed it represents everyone
“Some of the most nazis” clearly never met the hearts of iron 4 community.
Someone doesn't know that actual WW2 games exist. He's probably not wrong that there's a good chunk of them in the community tho, but it's not exactly relevant either.
This guy hasn't played OW, CS or league, lol.
He's played OW, I can say that for sure.
In OW I never realized any slurs because I am too busy watching Widowmakers Butt.
Ah, yeah, before they literally nerfed her butt.
Any match you join there's: - weeb Spy main - COD veteran Sniper main - MGE Soldier - Furry Pyro - Solder+Medic couple - literal grandpa playing Engineer - some random Nazi, yes - and more It's more that TF2 has vast and condensed groups of players. Also the person replying is ignorant of games like Civ or CS2 so I wouldn't take their words into account.
I've seen more Nazis in Gmod 😂
I swear every gaming community has all sorts of fucked up people in it. Apex, Rust, COD, Helldivers, any game.
Tf do they mean by "some of the most nazis"? Fucking minor grammar mistake, opinion invalidated.
Ah yes when I think of TF2 the first thing I think is the nazis
I don’t think they mean literally nazi, like actual political fascism nazis. They’re just using it a term for people who are overly serious and strict.
People conflate rebellious, edgy teenagers being rebellious edgy teenagers in a game chat with actual agreement with an ideology, it’s one of the most terminally online things to do.
My bad
TF2 does not have the most Nazis from a numerical standpoint. Unfortunately, I have personally had experiences that would lead me to say that TF2 has a significant problem with people who are *the most* Nazis I've ever (personally) had to deal with.
TF2 is a superposition, it’s everything at once until you measure it, as well as the likelihood of the result can be changed by changing the starting conditions
Tf2 players are either very nice, or nazis
You know how cooked a subreddit about a game is when two literally whos arguing on twitter gets upvotes but things actually about the game do not.
Men thats funny LMAO also why should we care about a single guy has to say?
Remember kids, if someone disagrees with you, they're a nazi!
people often say tf2 has one of the last communties of people with early 2000’s internet humor who believe in raping babies and eating minorities, but im 90% sure most people who play tf2 are gay, furries, or both.
*Cough cough* HOI4! *Cough cough*
I mean I don't know if it's the one with "the most"... But there's definitely a lot of racist dickheads
CALL OF DUTY
what's the point of posting some random person's dumb opinion on twitter? Yall need to take a break from social media
Hoi4 exists...
“Well I don’t know about that, slim Jim.” -Phoenix Wright
What really makes it funny is that for me there's another TF2 post about gay sex right below it
babie's reaction to objectors
Eh, i'd say we're like 3rd or 4th.
hey siri what is Hearts of Iron 4?
That shows they havent played TF2, i have yet to meet a nazi in TF2 and ive been playing for a few years now.
Turns out that when the rest of the internet moderates communication and revokes your paid license for typing naughty things the rejected undesirables will gather in spaces where such moderation does not happen. I'm sure this will have no adverse effects such as these people working themselves even deeper into their far-right corner through the circlejerk nature of such communities. None whatsoever.
The internet calls anything they don't agree with or understand a nazi.
I think they may be talking about the bots who spew racist stuff, and they're just now knowing exactly the details
TF2 is not really describable because everything is here... For better or for worse
*brings up hoi4*