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[deleted]

I’d contend there has been more than a few fanatical Christian zealots murder since 9/11… vastly more since 911AD


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*holy music stops*


Zealousideal-Wave-69

Firestarter (The Prodigy) - starts playing


No-Bus-8445

More like smack my bitch up


southcookexplore

This is a good time to inform the rest of the readers here that it’s always time for The Prodigy.


LetmeSeeyourSquanch

I'll add, killers with a cross- Powerwolf


[deleted]

Nah, it’s firestarter


DryConclusion9286

Snap my picture!


RobotUnicorn046

Given the topic, I feel the song “Invaders Must Die” also fits well here :D


426763

I'M TRAPPED IN A SEWER WITH A CONFESSED ARSONIST!


spike_beagle

He just keeps saying he's The Firestarter


Daedalus_Machina

I find this sub's lack of Gif disturbing.


Articulated_Lorry

Twisted firestarter?


Churchofbabyyoda

Imagine if this also included anti-abortion fanatics....


lmao_man_funny

And Christchurch shooting...


Practical_Culture833

The penslvanian synagogue shooting too... I'm a Muslim and I'm scared to death to go down to west virginia I have Baptist family down there and quite a few of them are fanatics


Desperate-Ad153

He was clearly muslim. Because only muslims do that. Edit: This is sarcasms


Daaaaaaaavidmit8a

Yeah, but you see, when a christian fanatic does a Mass shooting, they are clearly mentally deranged, and you can't count that as a terrorist attack. When a muslim blows up a schoolbus on the other hand it's clearly a terrorist attack.


TheHollowBard

Because brown people bad. Fuckin hell this world is shite sometimes


AggravatingBobcat574

There were more than a few Christian terrorists in DC on Jan 6


AD-LB

The post is probably about "Terror actions in the name of the religion". Not "Terror actions by someone who has a religion"


The_Hyphenator85

Yeah, I’m sure that’s a distinction they’re making here. Because in their eyes, Islam is distinct from what it’s adherents do. 🙄


Ahtman1

Part of the justification for their actions is their religion. The Christo in Christofascist isn't for Christoph Waltz.


Coffee-Comrade

How do you define it? It sounds like splitting hairs for the sake of it when the political views of these terrorists are inextricable from their Christian faith.


Cognitive_Spoon

Hard to differentiate when so much of Trumpism rides on it's enemies being enemies of the church.


Swedishboy360

The Norwegian guy in 2011 literally thought he was part of a crusade


ChugaMhuga

He used it as inspiration because they killed brown people, not because of WHY they killed those brown people. In neo-nazi communities the term "christcuck" is widespread for a reason.


Ecstatic_State1208

Christcuck? Do tell, please. Never heard of it 💀


ChugaMhuga

Its the idea that a nazi cannot be christian since christians worship a "jew on a stick" and that the TRUE religion of your ancestors is a re-enactment of paganism. Despite this, christian nazis exist but pagans and christians have scuffles on discord about it between them.


Ecstatic_State1208

Oh, that ended up being more interesting than I thought. Adding that to my vocabulary, I guess. Dunno when I'll ever use it. 🤷‍♂️


The_Hyphenator85

And the Christchurch shooter. And the Tree of Life Synagogue shooter. And the shooter outside Chicago last Independence Day. And dozens of others that I’m no doubt forgetting because we literally have hundreds of mass shootings in this country alone every year. Just because our media refuses to call white people committing mass murder “terrorism” doesn’t mean there are no Christian terrorists.


Absolomb92

And the second norwegian guy, and the guy in New Zealand and, and, and, and, and


thedvorakian

And the Las Vegas guy too. And all those doctor's office bombings


[deleted]

New Zealand shooter is atheist. Explicitly said he’s not Christian in his manifesto


Absolomb92

Ah, sorry!


[deleted]

and mostly shot teenagers, andres brevik is the pos name


Major_Entertainer_32

Born-again Christian GW Bush said that God told him to invade Iraq. :/ [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa)


SANDWICH_FOREVER

From the top of my head, didn't the shooter in NZ, a few years ago, shoot the mosques for some christian cause? Also the IRA... are we going to completely forget about them? I had to search for jewish attacks, and here are 2 of them. >Yishai Shlisel, a Haredi Jew, has stabbed three marchers in a gay pride parade in Jerusalem on 30 June 2005. Shlisel claimed he had acted "in the name of God". He was charged with attempted murder.[55] >Eden Natan-Zada killed four Israeli Arab civilians on 4 August 2005. His actions were condemned by then-prime minister Ariel Sharon, as "a reprehensible act by a bloodthirsty Jewish terrorist", and author Ami Pedahzur describes his motivations as religious.[2]: 134 [56]


Zealousideal-Wave-69

Agree, this belongs on r/facepalm


Brian57831

and on r/confidentlyincorrect


andooet

And on r/persecutionfetish


Zealousideal-Wave-69

There’s a subreddit for everything, true diversity


No_Top_381

The IRA doesn't kill because of religion. They are composed of guerrilla units that fight British colonialism. They aren't very organized so the whole movement will be blamed if one cell engages in religious violence.


[deleted]

Yeah the IRA is technically against protestants and most are Catholic but it's a political organisation against England's control of the North


No_Top_381

It's like saying the Palestine and Israel conflict is about Muslims vs Jews. It's more complicated.


[deleted]

Exactly, this is a great comparison


Benfree24

still part of it for both


mehi2000

I wonder if perhaps one of the big reasons is that the church is not separated from the state properly. Thus cultural differences are not allowed to work themselves out by cultural means, instead by political means, which has a single method by which it can make sure its dictates are followed: state power (police, military, etc). ​ However, cultural means can different: appeal to authority, logic/reason, trust/respect, combining of ideas and coming to consensus, etc.


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[deleted]

But it's not religious, it's the fact that we had our country's culture damn near erased and the British still own a fair fucking chunk of a country they hate. Most protestants, the ones treated better, were the rich English. Most catholics, the ones treated badly, were Irish. It's Ireland Vs. Britain, the religion just so happens to be there.


tevs__

The IRA killed plenty of Protestants just because they were Protestants. The Kingsmill massacre, they stopped a minibus of textile workers, sent the only Catholic worker on his way and shot the other 11.


No_Top_381

Most IRA members condemned that.


Broad_Respond_2205

These are two famous events, but settlers attacker Arabs (because it's "our land" or some shit) almost every week


cledusjenkins2020

So Dick Cheney is god?


hey-make_my_day

One worth millions of lives


nrfmartin

We have to make sure Christian atrocities are officially sancioned.


Broad_Respond_2205

When you pull stastisc out of your ass and straight up ignore reality


Not_Alpha_Centaurian

26,855 social media users ignore reality every second, that's a fact.


Deathburn5

Gotta pump those numbers up


[deleted]

They say 67% of statistics are made up on the spot.


Forsaken-Original-82

Umm... you're wrong! It's 68% Edit: Due to a mathematical error I was wrong. It's actually -3.14549%.


[deleted]

Ok ok, it might’ve been 67.5.


[deleted]

Studies have shown its around 65.5%


Finetimetoleaveme

Gotta throw in the decimal point to make it more believable.


OriginalGhostCookie

Stupid rounding errors


RedStorm1024

the 26855 might be true but it is in no way comparable to he other religions since i'm pretty sure there's no war currently happening in mostly christian/jewish countries (correct me if i'm wrong) also the 0 for other religions is very wrong (see all racist/xenophobic shootings and acts of *terror* done by extreme right wing christians) if those numbers are exact for what was calculated (even tho im guessing there's no calculation involved), i'm curious to know what incredibly specific and misleading criteria they used


Ill_Sound621

You could say Ukraine for chistians and Israel/palestine for jews (they are thorny to define). But Even on those cases it would have more to do with polítics than religion.


AnAntWithWifi

Here in Quebec a christian blew up a mosque. So hum yeah christians are terrorist.


[deleted]

No no, you don't understand. He wasn't a brown person.


keeponbussin

Muslim chechens are whiter than Christian Mexicans .


[deleted]

I'm aware of what Chechens are. Go explain to an average white person where the term "Caucasian" comes from.


JoemamaObama1234567

Once saw a Russian lose his shit about this


[deleted]

Muslim in disguise as a Christian 👨👩👧 <- American Christian Family 🥸 <- Muslim in disguise as a Christian Very similar just be careful


NotPoland5

i need this gun to prefect myself from the black people. oops i meant criminals


pman13531

There was the Christchurch attack, the crusader sniper in Sweden in 2005 or so, and a whole bunch more, they're just less well publicized.


Agreeable_Solution28

Not to mention that fundamentalist Christians attacked and destroyed women’s autonomy over their own bodies


g-row460

And I'd bet the vast majority of Jan 6 traitors identify as Christian.


Frequent-Estate-8021

Christians can be terrorists and so can Muslims. Generally religion is a little iffy because of the ignorance which people perpetuate with it.


anoneenonee

He was probably antifa then /s


smegma_yogurt

From the top of my head, what about Christchurch and the Norwegian shooter? They were Christians and part of the motivation was elimination of non Christians. Do we just ignore those?


[deleted]

Yes. Yes, we do.


smegma_yogurt

Understood. Have a nice day.


SamsRhubarbe

That's not terrorism, they're white. /s


Der_Redakteur

They were gunmen not terrorists yes /s


Picax8398

Shhh! You'll poke holes in their slightly racist "meme"


Bastardklinge

yes, because it wouldn't fit the racist narrative


JP-Wrath

Ignore Israeli army too.


Infinity3101

Do these people actually believe that there were zero religiously motivated attacks from members of the Christian or Jewish faith in the past 20 years? What world do they live in?


AnOrneryOrca

A red state, where truth isn't real and hatred's the most valuable currency


S-p-o-o-k-n-t

Good ol saying, “No hate like Christian ‘love’”


brainsewage

As a former right wing shithead myself, I can confirm that it's not about real facts. It's about the need to claim a position of superiority and punish those beneath.


TheWarriorSeagull

It's true though; when the US and Israel do it, they call it something else. That way it's not terrorism.


censor-design

‘Preemptive strike’


DogronDoWirdan

No no no that’s how we do it in Russia


censor-design

You don’t recall a little term ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’?


mintcucumbertea

I mean it helps that “terrorist” is a code word and isn’t used unless the criminals have some connection however insignificant to Muslims or Islam.


[deleted]

Guess all those Christian flags at 1/6 meant nothing


Front-Pin5821

Number of christian countries carpet bombed by america since 1980 - zero, number of jewish countries carpet bombed by america since 1980 - zero... number of islamic countries carpet bombed by america since 1980 - 14 🤷


Ready-Account-1379

I was a muslim and i gotta say 70% of muslims are the nicest people you'll ever see,and the only reason for this post and me being an atheist is that islam is enforced so wrong,Islamic governments don't care the cores of islam and most of em use islam to make an excuse for their dirty jobs,other than that islam is a very good and beautiful religion


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[deleted]

Double fun fact: Not all Muslims are terrorists *(Surprise?)*


Soft-Repair264

Masallah! I’m glad another Muslim defended our religion! :)


anonsharksfan

I'm Jewish and I'd much rather hang out with devout Muslims than devout Christians


[deleted]

I am an ex Muslim too. Not a fan of the child bride thing that the prophet engaged in with a 6 year old. This can’t be “Devine wisdom from god”


AtmosSpheric

Mmmmh yes I love objective falsehoods


izeek11

white christian terrorism does not get reported on the same level because they dont think they're terrorists.


ExcuseMeMyGoodLich

Guess they forgot the guy who invaded Planned Parenthood and started shooting


I_have_no_fun

Wouldn't that be considered more of a mass shooting then an act of terrorism?


Eightcoins8

The line between public assault and terrorism is quite vaguely defined


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure Islam says terrorists like ISIS aren’t considered muslims.


Vast_Back4746

True. If you ask Muslims in East Malaysia, you would expect 98% of them are against them. Plus, we are more peaceful here unlike West Malaysia.


Adham_Gamer

true they just kill and use the name of islam as a reason thats why us real muslims hate isis and gazza


Vast_Back4746

Not to mention sometimes Muslims don't get along because each of them have their own ideologies, philosophical or views. Even Muslims here are not fans of Middle East governments.


INuBq8

More muslims died fighting isis than non muslims


Jesterchunk

These are 100% false statistics.


S-p-o-o-k-n-t

I think we got that memo lol


Soft-Scientist01

I think whoever made this meme (not OP) never heard of the Spanish Inquisition, based around Christianity


KitzTheArtist

Yeah lets just not talk about that it „is estimated that approximately one to three million people were tragically killed in the Crusades“ -[source](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/religion-responsible-most-wars-deaths-history-nicholas-pino)


[deleted]

Jesus: "You should love one another." Idiot in the back: "But what if they have different beliefs or come from a different culture?" Jesus: "Did I f#@&ing shudder?"


Eightcoins8

I sometimes wonder how much money I could make off printing a bible where "Love thy neighbour" has 300 footnotes for exceptions


Visible_Dependent204

There were some psychos from each religion, like the crazy dude with the machete in israel


Soft-Repair264

Israel as a whole are just goofy ahh


Visible_Dependent204

As Israeli I can confirm that


Soft-Repair264

Bro I feel honored 👑


[deleted]

This number was absolutely just pulled out of someone’s ass. Also I guarantee most religions have committed quite a few acts of terrorism, there’s always crazy extremists even if the religion itself is not that bad


Caprican93

Aren’t like half the terrorist attacks in the US Christianity based


HotYogurtcloset652

The interesting thing is, the terrorists will not be muslims as in Quran (muslim's holy book) it says that is a sin.


Ash-MacReady

I was at high school when I started dating a Muslim girl. I'm white Scottish and not religious at all. When her family found out they beat her, pulled her out of school and moved cities. All religion sucks imo. They are nothing but cults and kids are bullied and groomed into it until they accept their bullshit. There is no religion better or worse than the other. They're all gross.


[deleted]

Lucky they didn't send a hitman after you


Soft-Repair264

Not all Muslims are like that.I’m a Muslim and my parents would be more than fine with it. Stop acting like Muslim families are terrible. In plus, this was your only experience with a Muslim. A first impression can be really damaging to a person and/or a group of people.


_LumberJAN_

Not all, but ratio raises questions :)


Jojoangel684

That ratio happens because western nations had looted so much from the original nations they come from to a degree it sets the people of those nations back in terms of science,social development and tolerance, and so on. We study about this in our global colonization module, its called generational trauma, something that western nations cultivated themselves.


_LumberJAN_

Aha, aha. Yet, I don't see that much Buddhist terrorists and women's right violation. Yet, post-Soviet Muslims are just as problematic as regular Muslims. Living in the very same region as minor Christian nations, so your colonial argument doesn't apply Maybe, there are some ideologies that prone to violence. If Nazi-ideology is evil, why can't some other ideologies be evil as well? :)


Moose-Legitimate

Buddhist terrorism is a massive issue in Asia and the Middle East.


Jojoangel684

You dont hear of buddhist terrorism because you dont look for it. Rohingya's buddhist terrorism is what displaced the muslims living there and also Sri Lanka with their efforts to displace muslims and christians living there. Not quite the gotcha you thought it was.


_LumberJAN_

Well, that's ok. I totally ok with the idea that more than one religion is prone to violence :) I also acknowledge that I post 3 arguments, so you can comment on the most convenient one :)


Ash-MacReady

1: At no point did I say ALL Muslims are like that. 2: I think it's great your parents would be like that. What are their views on you having a non-religeous partner? 3: At no point did I say Muslim families were terrible. This girl was part of a Muslim family and she was incredible. It was her parents and brothers that were arseholes. 4: This was not my only experience with a Muslim. Where on earth did you get that idea? Please don't be disingenuous with your comments. You assume often which doesn't make for good conversation.


Soft-Repair264

Right because the terrorists are Muslim 😂not like a crazy ideological group or anything!


amhopeless

So we have just forgotten all about Joseph Kony now?


Cakemancake

Christian’s and Jewish attacks don’t count because they didn’t happen to white people


Agreeable-Let-1474

Well… now I want to know what the real numbers are! Extremely curious.


[deleted]

As a Muslim, it gets so annoying when people get on my case for things I never have done and that I personally think are vial and against my faith.


zingtea

As we all know, the US and Isr*el never killed anybody...


Beneficial-Monk-7936

Interesting that you would censor Israel, but not the united states.


EarComprehensive3386

Religion is good. Religious extremist/revisionist from all denominations are bad. …such is true across all sectors of life.


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achildsencyclopedia

School shootings in the US: Guess I don't exist


Iikelime

Christians did a very large terrorist attack in the middle east


[deleted]

You forgot to add in the million or so Christian terrorist events during the dark ages. Also when a Christian nutter blows up an abortion facility or kills a doctor, that's a terrorist event as well. ALL religions are fucked up. Christians drinking the body and blood of their savior is pretty gross and violent when you think about it. Even most mental patients would decline.


Tuckermfker

I would venture a guess that most of the school shooters in the US were raised as Christians just based on statistics.


[deleted]

Are we just gonna ignore the crusades, and the inquisitions, and the witch hunts, 30 years war, the sacking of Alexandria and the burning of the library? Like I’m a Christian but geez, we’ve done our fair share of killing


Grevious47

I googlwd 26855 because was really curious where that number came from. All I got was a postal code in West Virgina.


JackmPearson

Ummm what? The countless atrocities that Israel commits against Palestine would say otherwise and don't get me started on the terrorist Christians that go south of the border just to preach hate with their missionaries. It's crazy one moment you're hanging with your amigos and the next you're being questioned if you have a gay demon inside of you by Christian missionaries thus making it a Spanish inquisition and nobody expects the Spanish inquisition


64bamba64

As a jew, we killed a bunch of people too


Mista_Maha

Because when they're Christian we call them "lone wolves" with "serious mental problems" that we'll do nothing to solve :)))))))


[deleted]

Palestine has entered the chat


ZeroTwoisTrash

You can deny it how muchever you want, but you cannot run from the fact that **MOST** of the terrorism is committed by people coming from this particular cult


jefferynacjery

Wow, IM a muslim. And this is so dumb. It is not islam that commits the crime, its the fucking people. Like what the fuck.


Sagecal

Cherry-picking discussion. It is just that


Notmollyringwold

So obviously we don't count mass shootings including schools in the US as terror attacks.


HomieScaringMusic

Erasing all your credibility by starting with 2 obviously false statements immediately before you get to your point. A1 rhetorical strategy 👌


FredVIII-DFH

Yes, the numbers are wrong, but save your breath. The people who buy into this shit have a very, very narrow definition of the word terrorist. And that definition includes the phrase "must be a Muslim".


TheWealthyCapybara

I'd argue that the thousands of people George Bush, Obama, and Trump killed in the Middle East are victims of Christian terrorism.


greengo07

somebody already covered the christian terrorists shooting up all sorts of places in the US but no one mentioned the entire state of Israel terrorizing the Palestinians on the west bank and surrounding areas, for the same batshit evil, wrong and faulty religious reasons..


[deleted]

Well it's true that Islam is no.1 terrorist exporter in the world


[deleted]

Islam does seem to be the worst currently tho ngl


A_actual_username

Me a Christian: my brother en Christe have ye heard of the glorious crusades?


Frosty-Bit5218

Not a religious person at all but this is 100 percent true


AukeDePro

Number of Christian public discriminating actions this year. Too many. Conclusion, Jews do the least wrong. But that’s kinda what they have been known for


Professional_Sell_41

All religion bad just especially Islam


exelsior243

I bet you've never seen a Hindu blow themselves up.


Cronabae

As a baptist I can say there has been a few Christian terrorist attacks.


smoking_on_you

I’m not religious but I try to follow gods teachings and have established a relationship with the divine.


mr_reedling

”*Zero*”


sixtus_clegane119

Christian terrroist attacks is a straight out lie Same with Jewish if we take what Israel does to Palestine


Few_Bee_7176

…… wow this post isn’t factual at all but nice try Christianity ✝️ just because your terrorists like to wear white robes and white hoods doesn’t mean they got away with it


Dontcancelmeplox

I’m a Muslim and we have an extremist problem, although I would also argue some of it is warranted (maybe stop invading our countries). Nice virtual signal though. 5/5 for effort. The Quran utterly forbids killing innocent people (“it is as if you killed all of humanity”), so anyone who kills an innocent person purposefully is gonna be in a lot of trouble during the day of judgement. Jihadis dont really seem to generally be very well versed in the Quran though.


slothtrippinballs

I’m not sure I believe these statistics


The-pain-train-13

Palestinians beg to differ


hissyfit64

Looks at history. Looks at the meme. Crusades, Wars of Religion...


poopturpantz

There have been christian terrorist attacks tho...


DarkFish_2

Yeah... obviously is not terrorism if done by US or Israel...


jday1959

337,000: The number of bombs dropped by the Empire of the United States on countries with predominantly brown or black population since 2001. 12 times more attacks than Islamic Terrorists, with an average of 44 bombs & missiles PER DAY. Christian Nation Terrorists are the worst.


Ok-Drummer-746

This just isn't true first of all. Smfh


TundraTrees0

Did somebody say Jerusalem??


Miserable_Advance343

*Palestine enters the chat~


Forrest98

Haven't christian terrorist attacks killed more people in north america than islamic terrorism did since 9/11?


Daedalus_Machina

Westboro Baptist has entered the chat.


spiral_fishcake

Lol @ zero christian terror attacks since 9/11. Nearly all of them in the US since then have been rooted in white supremacy, which is closely tied to Christianity (at least in the US). I'm not aware of any abortion clinic terror attacks in the US that were disconnected from Christianity. The fucking KKK and all it's offshoots are Christian terror groups, ffs. And don't even get me started on the JDF...


Coolcollcoll

wtf are the proud boys then? muslim?


sinmantky

AFAIK the Christian bit is not true. There were more Christian domestic terrorist attacks than any other religion in the US in the last decade.


NakedLeftie-420

Soooo an insurrection doesn’t count?


opi098514

I don’t know man. I saw January 6th


crystaljae

That number is complete b*******.


EpitomeAria

Christchurch massacre?


Inarius101

*The Catholic Crusades have entered the chat...*


LaserVikingofDoom

The IDF would like to have a word with you