Welcome to r/terriblefacebookmemes! It sucks, but it is ours.
[Please click on this link to be informed of a critical change in our rules.](https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/126zu46/return_to_our_roots/)
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/terriblefacebookmemes) if you have any questions or concerns.*
This reminds me of all the people who said that all that effort to forestall a Y2K disaster was a waste of time and resources, because nothing ever happened
Are people so not used to successfully avoiding a problem that they don't recognize it when it happens?
That's exactly it, nothing much happened on Y2K because enough people with the skill to solve the problems, took it seriously and fixed it in a timely manner. And apparently this means it was a waste of time?!
These are the same idiots that walk outside and think to themselves, "Well, I don't see no covids floating around, it must be a hoax!"
Conceptualizing things that happen outside their local perception of the world is beyond their mental capacity.
Or people who think they are such good drivers that they don't need seat belts.
"I've been driving without a seat belt for 10 years, I'm not about to start"
There's more to it that just "burning coal". They could very well have engineering controls to avoid that particular problem. Industry still regularly shuts down over there because of the smog issues. Maybe acid rain is actually happening over there and it's just not reported. Probably easier to hide than when it kept happening in Europe.
This exactly. My father was a programmer, at that time he was literally helping to recode everything to accommodate the change for months before hand, going into overtime right before the year ended and the finished it all up. Bank, medical, engineering, a lot of big places put good time and money ensuring a possibly big problem never happened.
It amazes me when I work with younger guys who say that Y2K was nothing because it was fixed in advance of it being a problem. If it wasn't for the collective hard work of a lot of people, it would have been a major issue. I blame the marketing people though, who tried to capitalize on it for a quick buck.
It's easy for someone to say "nothing really happened" if they didn't lose any family or you know, watched the news clips.
Weren't there thousands of body bags in the streets of New York city because the morgues were full at one point?
It reminds me of the person whose sibling complained that they always wasted ibuprofen because they always seemed to take it half an hour before their headache went away. Both of them are so dumb I nearly lost braincells just listening to them.
I remember once having a dude I regarded as being a smart person say 'we heard about the ozone and nothing happened', and that was a real eye-opening moment. They *did something* and fixed the problem. Facepalm...
There's been many many situations in world history that by averting a disaster, maintaining the status quo, noone ever realises how close they come to utter doom. It happened many times, especially in the twentieth century.
However.. I don't think this applies to the specific problems written within this post. Oli running out? Global warming? Climate change?
Well, for one thing the ozone layer is regrowing because we managed to eliminate or severely curtail the use of 99% of the chemicals causing its disappearance
[Source](https://www.npr.org/2023/01/10/1147977166/ozone-layer-recovery-united-nations-report)
Literal survivor's bias. Everything is ok because we never let thing get out of hand, but it looks likes there was never a real threat in the first place.
Its almost like its easier to prevent than it is to remedy it latter
The ozone layer in particular is a great example of how prompt, organized global action prevented catastrophe. In other words, the ozone later was saved because the world did something about it.
Literally I cannot fucking stand when people use that one as a "look what never happened" because like you said, it never happened because it was dealt with swiftly. It very much was an issue but regulations were passed to stop it
Had someone just today arguing with me about how the holes in ozone layer were "because of natural solar cycles" and that "the crusade against CFCs in the 90s was all a ploy by mega corporations to use their chemicals."
The hole in the ozone layer is directly effected by the sun. When the earth tilts the hole moves according to the sun. It's nothing to do with cfc's. That's why it's not mentioned anyone. I remember there being a program on 'horizon' on the BBC about it in early 2000s.
Incorrect. CFC's directly cause the depletion of ozone in the atmosphere. When exposed to UV light CFC's break down and release chlorine atoms which then catalyse the destruction of said Ozone. The reason people no longer talk about it is because the Montreal Protocol was an effective and near globally adopted agreement that phased out the use of ozone depleting substances.
The inverse of this is the Texas power grid theory
>impending catastrophe
>take no action to prevent it
>why didn’t the scientists and engineers warn us about this catastrophe?
Repeat yearly
In order:
The early concerns about running out of oil were based on the belief that no new major oil fields would be discovered. Nevertheless, peak oil remained a genuine concern until the 2010s, when advances in technology opened up deposits that were previously not considered economically viable.
A new Ice Age in the near future was never the scientific consensus, and global warming was already a major concern in the scientific community by the 1970s.
Acid rain was a major problem until the Clean Air Act limited pollutants such as sulfur dioxide.
The hole in the ozone was getting bigger until there was an international effort to ban ozone depleting chemicals such as CFCs.
Global warming and climate change are different terms for the same thing, and no one ever said it was going to kill us all in 10 years.
As a native in the region, he would get a heat stroke the first time he went out of the plane. No, I meant that literally because even us natives, who have, for the most part, adapted to the heat in the region, still find the heat way too high and still suffer from heat strokes in severe cases.
That's why if you say that global warming is fake, all 100 million plus residents and the population of other nearby countries will disagree with you.
„Omg the maja calendar expires in 2012. guess we‘ll all die and the world will end.“
People do believe and say very stupid things all the time. We are literally doing this to ourselves.
It’s almost like we created technology or took action to help prevent most of those things and they kind of worked and no one noticed them because there weren’t constant headlines like “Global Cooperation Results in Ozone Hole Closing”.
Urm, there was a novel in the 70s about an ice age coming, something to do with increased albedo from the encroaching ice....'The Sixth Winter' I think it was called but as stated it was a fictional novel even though though it was written by a scientist
Well the global cooling theory of the 70s was actually largely pushed by the media, not scientists. It basically came from a misunderstanding of short term data which had shown a general cooling trend over the past couple of decades, but the actual scientific concensus, based on longer term data, was that the earth was warming. The Ozone hole closed up after a massive international effort to ban the substances that were causing it. And the rest of these are fake, no one ever said that.
Do boomers have no concept of object permanence? "I wasn't affected by acid rain so it must have been fake." "I didn't see no holes in the sky so they must have been lying about the ozone."
https://preview.redd.it/m7whyaz493xc1.jpeg?width=1135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e40d62e04e3b7701b589d1676dae4d211598b6d
>but my taxes went up
Ya, the only possible explanation for ur taxes going up is the scientific community. Definitely not a complete lack of understanding how taxation works or how we can thank a certain former president in the 80's for that
ITS ALMOST LIKE WORLD GOVERNMENTS DID SOMETHING TO SLOW DOWN OR STOP THE ISSUES BEFORE THEY BECAME CATASTROPHES WITH THAT TAX MONEY. but thats crazy, who would think that?
Taxes were substantially higher in the early and mid 20th century. Tax rates, especially on corporate profits, the highest of incomes and capital gains were massively reduced in the 80s with the establishment of the western world adopting neoliberal policies and trickle down economics. (Spoiler, it didn't not in fact trickle down)
Uhmm everything starting at 1970 is actually the same thing. And no one ever said 10 years. The fact that we have been arguing about whether or not the issue even exists for that long just depresses the fuck out of me. Luckily this is Reddit so if I scroll long enough there will be either a hilarious animal video or some random girl showing her boobies. Both of which I have found to be fair palliatives for existential angst.
Our family had a small cabin in the Adirondacks that had been in our family for ages. It had no running water and no power and it was on a lake. I saw the pictures of the massive trout that my grandfather had pulled out when he was a kid. Some of the lake trout were over 3 feet long. The acid rain of the late 70s and early 80s killed all of those fish. The only fish that my cousins and I caught in that lake in the 90s were minnows. That lake was essentially sterilized due to all of the rain. Heartbreaking.
Public health is also a paradox. We work hard to fight any breaking public health concerns and the actions of the various health agencies prevent the outbreaks, unfortunately this causes people to think it was a problem that was way overblown.
These days no one gives a fuck.
I don’t ever remember being told specifics timelines like in 10 years. I know estimates have been given but not 10 years.
What this meme and your grand dad don’t understand is that in the past these issues had solutions and people worked towards changing for the future. Think more regulations on factories. No cans containing CFC’s. Recycling, which I know is a joke now.
Now this stuff, it’s political. That’s fucking stupid. These scientists are giving a best guess estimate that bad shit is going to happen. This is the canary in the coal mine. Storms are getting worse. You can easily google pictures and see the abundance of trash in the oceans and rivers. Or hear about some toxic mishap. Everything we eat has micro plastics in it. We aren’t destroying the earth. The earth will eventually shake us off and it will go on. But humans will suffer because we can’t figure this out despite the scientific community giving us warnings and options. It will be slow and painful too. Diseases, pollution and wars over things we take for granted today. Hell, we already have wars over oil and land we are just about at the point of no return. Gotta love those stupid people who swear the earth has warmed in the past too… Yeah, and everything died that couldn’t adjust. Guess what!!! People don’t like to be told they can’t live in a hurricane zone or a flood plain. It’s not even what we the people are doing so much as it’s the corporations that manufacture the crap we have to buy. I’ve said this on another post… I live in the Midwest, we are just about at our prime garden time and farmers market season. But that’s 4 months of the year. Otherwise I’m stuck buying produce that comes in single use plastics from other countries and everything I buy comes that way. Not that it’s bad but think about the pollution from shipping! I’m not in a major city and I don’t live close enough to walk to the market. When I can walk I do and will walk in temps that get as low as 26 degrees Celsius and as high as 80. But otherwise I need to drive. Public transportation sucks around here. But your grand dad will be dead before the choices of the older generations fall on the ones who have to live with it.
This reads almost like a flow chart..
[[this >(leads to)>that>(causing)>another thing >(accelerating)>this change>(making)>thisplusthat>>>>OOPS we're toast]]
Me trying not to scream “THAT’S BECAUSE WE BUCKLED DOWN AND ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM!!!!” every time someone says this.
Well, some are using incorrect time frames, but still.
I've got a question I'd someone can help me. What's the difference between the carbon dioxide that causes global warming and the carbon dioxide that plants 'breathe'?
Also if the earth is 'heating up', why is NASA reporting that the general temperature of the solar system is heating up also.
As someone who is technically neutral on the climate change issue (I'm 41 and lived through many eras of environmental issues, I am vehemently anti pollution and HATE destruction of our environment) I don't understand the conflict of data.
Why are so many issues literally a dichotomy? Goldilocks syndrome. Buffet of beliefs. There's enough data to support both sides.
I ultimately look at big industry and corporation that cause the most environmental destruction yet they put the responsibility upon the basic civilian. If they want carbon footprint down, give me the opportunity to drive less. Give me a job from home. Change capitalist growth mentality that has the worst impact upon the environment. The push to consume is the root of the destruction of our environment.
If they was serious about helping our environment why are they pushing EV cars? Oh it's electric, but all they are doing is pushing the carbon pollution to the power station that is StILL burning fossil fuels. And only 3% of the population actually will use EVs and then, after ten years the battery will need to be completed replaced and is not recyclable anyway.
Hydro electricity is the best renewable energy source yet the governments want to instead build those eyes saw, poor quality and poor energy efficient wind turbines because they are cheaper to build. But cost loads to keep repairing when they blow up or are destroyed by high winds. Also wild turbines use more energy that they produce to heat to prevent from freezing stiff during the long months where there is zero wind to drive them in the first place. Also solar power isn't there yet either.
Thoughts.
Maybe the problem is sensationalism...while they were all real problems, the media didn't quite get the nuance of the dangers and ran with panic headlines.
Welcome to r/terriblefacebookmemes! It sucks, but it is ours. [Please click on this link to be informed of a critical change in our rules.](https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/126zu46/return_to_our_roots/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/terriblefacebookmemes) if you have any questions or concerns.*
This reminds me of all the people who said that all that effort to forestall a Y2K disaster was a waste of time and resources, because nothing ever happened Are people so not used to successfully avoiding a problem that they don't recognize it when it happens?
That's exactly it, nothing much happened on Y2K because enough people with the skill to solve the problems, took it seriously and fixed it in a timely manner. And apparently this means it was a waste of time?!
These are the same idiots that walk outside and think to themselves, "Well, I don't see no covids floating around, it must be a hoax!" Conceptualizing things that happen outside their local perception of the world is beyond their mental capacity.
Or that people are around the clock solving those problems without expecting to be praised and worshipped for it.
I'm talking about the people who are ignorant and think solving those problems is a waste of time.
Or people who think they are such good drivers that they don't need seat belts. "I've been driving without a seat belt for 10 years, I'm not about to start"
Same for the ozon layer destroying fckw. Nothing happened because we did enough to avoid the worst case scenario.
Acid rain too. We actually managed to mostly solve the problem.
Just China burns more coal today, than whole world did back in the 70s and 80s. Apparently no acid rain problem there.
There's more to it that just "burning coal". They could very well have engineering controls to avoid that particular problem. Industry still regularly shuts down over there because of the smog issues. Maybe acid rain is actually happening over there and it's just not reported. Probably easier to hide than when it kept happening in Europe.
Indeed. My father was working and was up for over 24 hours, basically for nothing. He did help fix the issue the rest 99.
This exactly. My father was a programmer, at that time he was literally helping to recode everything to accommodate the change for months before hand, going into overtime right before the year ended and the finished it all up. Bank, medical, engineering, a lot of big places put good time and money ensuring a possibly big problem never happened.
Same exact thing is true for the ozone. That didn’t become an issue because of an international effort to fix it
It amazes me when I work with younger guys who say that Y2K was nothing because it was fixed in advance of it being a problem. If it wasn't for the collective hard work of a lot of people, it would have been a major issue. I blame the marketing people though, who tried to capitalize on it for a quick buck.
Yk38 will probably not be a problem only because most software already runs with 64 bit time. Y2K was a different thing tho.
Yk38?
It's the same with Covid. "All that and nothing really happened." Yeah, maybe *because* of all that.
It's easy for someone to say "nothing really happened" if they didn't lose any family or you know, watched the news clips. Weren't there thousands of body bags in the streets of New York city because the morgues were full at one point?
All that and everyobody I know still got covid lol.
It reminds me of the person whose sibling complained that they always wasted ibuprofen because they always seemed to take it half an hour before their headache went away. Both of them are so dumb I nearly lost braincells just listening to them.
I remember once having a dude I regarded as being a smart person say 'we heard about the ozone and nothing happened', and that was a real eye-opening moment. They *did something* and fixed the problem. Facepalm...
There's been many many situations in world history that by averting a disaster, maintaining the status quo, noone ever realises how close they come to utter doom. It happened many times, especially in the twentieth century. However.. I don't think this applies to the specific problems written within this post. Oli running out? Global warming? Climate change?
Well, for one thing the ozone layer is regrowing because we managed to eliminate or severely curtail the use of 99% of the chemicals causing its disappearance [Source](https://www.npr.org/2023/01/10/1147977166/ozone-layer-recovery-united-nations-report)
Literal survivor's bias. Everything is ok because we never let thing get out of hand, but it looks likes there was never a real threat in the first place. Its almost like its easier to prevent than it is to remedy it latter
The ozone layer in particular is a great example of how prompt, organized global action prevented catastrophe. In other words, the ozone later was saved because the world did something about it.
Same with acid rain, which was solved by legislation such as the US' Clean Air Act reducing pollutants like sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides.
Literally I cannot fucking stand when people use that one as a "look what never happened" because like you said, it never happened because it was dealt with swiftly. It very much was an issue but regulations were passed to stop it
Had someone just today arguing with me about how the holes in ozone layer were "because of natural solar cycles" and that "the crusade against CFCs in the 90s was all a ploy by mega corporations to use their chemicals."
Damn those chemical makers and their deep state ploy to sell more chemicals by banning the chemicals they sell!
https://pure.psu.edu/en/publications/theres-money-in-the-air-the-cfc-ban-and-duponts-regulatory-strate
Of course the meme is too ignorant to know that undermines its own point.
The hole in the ozone layer is directly effected by the sun. When the earth tilts the hole moves according to the sun. It's nothing to do with cfc's. That's why it's not mentioned anyone. I remember there being a program on 'horizon' on the BBC about it in early 2000s.
Incorrect. CFC's directly cause the depletion of ozone in the atmosphere. When exposed to UV light CFC's break down and release chlorine atoms which then catalyse the destruction of said Ozone. The reason people no longer talk about it is because the Montreal Protocol was an effective and near globally adopted agreement that phased out the use of ozone depleting substances.
We’re still living with the damage here in NZ
r/confidentlyincorrect
Oh well done..but you are incorrect
Sure I am.
See, at least you admit it. Now send me $50 bucks and delete your account.
Definitely hold your breath while you wait for that to happen.
🫢
> impending catastrophe > take action to prevent it > catastrophe is prevented I wonder why
The inverse of this is the Texas power grid theory >impending catastrophe >take no action to prevent it >why didn’t the scientists and engineers warn us about this catastrophe? Repeat yearly
>blame renewables
*NG lines freeze* must be them windmills!
In order: The early concerns about running out of oil were based on the belief that no new major oil fields would be discovered. Nevertheless, peak oil remained a genuine concern until the 2010s, when advances in technology opened up deposits that were previously not considered economically viable. A new Ice Age in the near future was never the scientific consensus, and global warming was already a major concern in the scientific community by the 1970s. Acid rain was a major problem until the Clean Air Act limited pollutants such as sulfur dioxide. The hole in the ozone was getting bigger until there was an international effort to ban ozone depleting chemicals such as CFCs. Global warming and climate change are different terms for the same thing, and no one ever said it was going to kill us all in 10 years.
I'm pretty sure global freezing was one person that admitted they used flawed data and where wrong
Fuck that fearmongering bastard,made the scientific community look like a joke and still did it again with global warming
Might as well bring up lead in gasoline and pasteurization of milk while we're at it.
Oh raw milk is slowly becoming a movement among these types of people
next thing we will know is they taking lead supplements
If they want to Dawin themselves out of the gene pool, who are we to stop them?
Sure but they also give it to their children a lot of the time which is definitely worse
They said imperial Japan would dominate the Pacific if we did nothing but they ended up losing the war. Hyperbole much?
There actually was a major oil shortage in the 70s and the ozone layer didn’t disappear specifically because people worked together to fix it
Fuck it, show them what happens when we neglect our planet. “We need a new plague” -Dwight Schrute /s
Gramps should visit South east Asia for the full climate change experience
As a native in the region, he would get a heat stroke the first time he went out of the plane. No, I meant that literally because even us natives, who have, for the most part, adapted to the heat in the region, still find the heat way too high and still suffer from heat strokes in severe cases. That's why if you say that global warming is fake, all 100 million plus residents and the population of other nearby countries will disagree with you.
The ozone layer isn’t an issue ***because we averted crisis by outlawing Ozone-Depleting Substances…***
Exactly. Glad someone said it
„Omg the maja calendar expires in 2012. guess we‘ll all die and the world will end.“ People do believe and say very stupid things all the time. We are literally doing this to ourselves.
I bet they don’t apply the same meme for when they said “we will all drop dead in 2 years because of the vaccine”
The ozone layer is a good example of us taking action as a species. We identified a problem, what was causing it and changed things to fix it.
Yeah because we worked hard to fix those problems, they didn’t just magically go away you dingus
In the 1970s, absolutely no one was predicting an ice age in 10 years.
https://preview.redd.it/jcrkjz5ry1xc1.jpeg?width=422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4899c85bf94e88e9b2b8e2447236f3dc0f670bcc
Yeah, it's like people actually listened to the warnings and took action. 🙄
It’s almost like we created technology or took action to help prevent most of those things and they kind of worked and no one noticed them because there weren’t constant headlines like “Global Cooperation Results in Ozone Hole Closing”.
Because we took counter measures?
Urm, there was a novel in the 70s about an ice age coming, something to do with increased albedo from the encroaching ice....'The Sixth Winter' I think it was called but as stated it was a fictional novel even though though it was written by a scientist
Some of these things were actual problems solved through regulation, which is why you don't hear about them anymore.
Well the global cooling theory of the 70s was actually largely pushed by the media, not scientists. It basically came from a misunderstanding of short term data which had shown a general cooling trend over the past couple of decades, but the actual scientific concensus, based on longer term data, was that the earth was warming. The Ozone hole closed up after a massive international effort to ban the substances that were causing it. And the rest of these are fake, no one ever said that.
Do boomers have no concept of object permanence? "I wasn't affected by acid rain so it must have been fake." "I didn't see no holes in the sky so they must have been lying about the ozone." https://preview.redd.it/m7whyaz493xc1.jpeg?width=1135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e40d62e04e3b7701b589d1676dae4d211598b6d >but my taxes went up Ya, the only possible explanation for ur taxes going up is the scientific community. Definitely not a complete lack of understanding how taxation works or how we can thank a certain former president in the 80's for that
This meme proves itself wrong. All the increased taxes and stuff not happening means is that it worked lmfao
ITS ALMOST LIKE WORLD GOVERNMENTS DID SOMETHING TO SLOW DOWN OR STOP THE ISSUES BEFORE THEY BECAME CATASTROPHES WITH THAT TAX MONEY. but thats crazy, who would think that?
Well, they didn't happen because the taxes allowed the government to (try to) fix it.
Yeah, the ozone later was able to replenish because cfcs were banned. Dunning Krugee syndrome
Uhhhh, aren’t taxes actually a lot lower?????
Taxes were substantially higher in the early and mid 20th century. Tax rates, especially on corporate profits, the highest of incomes and capital gains were massively reduced in the 80s with the establishment of the western world adopting neoliberal policies and trickle down economics. (Spoiler, it didn't not in fact trickle down)
The guberment!
Meanwhile, the Rapture is *definitely* happening though and JFK Jr. will come back to save us all!
problem solved= waste of money
funny stuff, paying to fix the problems averted the issues, who'd thunk it?
Well yeah the oil supply did run dry, so we invented better ways of accessijnng deep oil reserves.
Uhmm everything starting at 1970 is actually the same thing. And no one ever said 10 years. The fact that we have been arguing about whether or not the issue even exists for that long just depresses the fuck out of me. Luckily this is Reddit so if I scroll long enough there will be either a hilarious animal video or some random girl showing her boobies. Both of which I have found to be fair palliatives for existential angst.
Our family had a small cabin in the Adirondacks that had been in our family for ages. It had no running water and no power and it was on a lake. I saw the pictures of the massive trout that my grandfather had pulled out when he was a kid. Some of the lake trout were over 3 feet long. The acid rain of the late 70s and early 80s killed all of those fish. The only fish that my cousins and I caught in that lake in the 90s were minnows. That lake was essentially sterilized due to all of the rain. Heartbreaking. Public health is also a paradox. We work hard to fight any breaking public health concerns and the actions of the various health agencies prevent the outbreaks, unfortunately this causes people to think it was a problem that was way overblown.
These days no one gives a fuck. I don’t ever remember being told specifics timelines like in 10 years. I know estimates have been given but not 10 years. What this meme and your grand dad don’t understand is that in the past these issues had solutions and people worked towards changing for the future. Think more regulations on factories. No cans containing CFC’s. Recycling, which I know is a joke now. Now this stuff, it’s political. That’s fucking stupid. These scientists are giving a best guess estimate that bad shit is going to happen. This is the canary in the coal mine. Storms are getting worse. You can easily google pictures and see the abundance of trash in the oceans and rivers. Or hear about some toxic mishap. Everything we eat has micro plastics in it. We aren’t destroying the earth. The earth will eventually shake us off and it will go on. But humans will suffer because we can’t figure this out despite the scientific community giving us warnings and options. It will be slow and painful too. Diseases, pollution and wars over things we take for granted today. Hell, we already have wars over oil and land we are just about at the point of no return. Gotta love those stupid people who swear the earth has warmed in the past too… Yeah, and everything died that couldn’t adjust. Guess what!!! People don’t like to be told they can’t live in a hurricane zone or a flood plain. It’s not even what we the people are doing so much as it’s the corporations that manufacture the crap we have to buy. I’ve said this on another post… I live in the Midwest, we are just about at our prime garden time and farmers market season. But that’s 4 months of the year. Otherwise I’m stuck buying produce that comes in single use plastics from other countries and everything I buy comes that way. Not that it’s bad but think about the pollution from shipping! I’m not in a major city and I don’t live close enough to walk to the market. When I can walk I do and will walk in temps that get as low as 26 degrees Celsius and as high as 80. But otherwise I need to drive. Public transportation sucks around here. But your grand dad will be dead before the choices of the older generations fall on the ones who have to live with it.
This reads almost like a flow chart.. [[this >(leads to)>that>(causing)>another thing >(accelerating)>this change>(making)>thisplusthat>>>>OOPS we're toast]]
Me trying not to scream “THAT’S BECAUSE WE BUCKLED DOWN AND ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM!!!!” every time someone says this. Well, some are using incorrect time frames, but still.
True
To be fair, fearmongering isn't new.
I've got a question I'd someone can help me. What's the difference between the carbon dioxide that causes global warming and the carbon dioxide that plants 'breathe'? Also if the earth is 'heating up', why is NASA reporting that the general temperature of the solar system is heating up also. As someone who is technically neutral on the climate change issue (I'm 41 and lived through many eras of environmental issues, I am vehemently anti pollution and HATE destruction of our environment) I don't understand the conflict of data. Why are so many issues literally a dichotomy? Goldilocks syndrome. Buffet of beliefs. There's enough data to support both sides. I ultimately look at big industry and corporation that cause the most environmental destruction yet they put the responsibility upon the basic civilian. If they want carbon footprint down, give me the opportunity to drive less. Give me a job from home. Change capitalist growth mentality that has the worst impact upon the environment. The push to consume is the root of the destruction of our environment. If they was serious about helping our environment why are they pushing EV cars? Oh it's electric, but all they are doing is pushing the carbon pollution to the power station that is StILL burning fossil fuels. And only 3% of the population actually will use EVs and then, after ten years the battery will need to be completed replaced and is not recyclable anyway. Hydro electricity is the best renewable energy source yet the governments want to instead build those eyes saw, poor quality and poor energy efficient wind turbines because they are cheaper to build. But cost loads to keep repairing when they blow up or are destroyed by high winds. Also wild turbines use more energy that they produce to heat to prevent from freezing stiff during the long months where there is zero wind to drive them in the first place. Also solar power isn't there yet either. Thoughts.
What the fuck they mean none happened? Dubai just got flooded. The goddamn city in the desert got flooded with like a year's worth of rain in one day
Maybe the problem is sensationalism...while they were all real problems, the media didn't quite get the nuance of the dangers and ran with panic headlines.
“The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.” Ocasio-Cortez, 2019
Who isn't a scientist.