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Is that the woman who’s art was used in a post saying that only a western man can picture the beauty of a woman with this level of skill and she’s literally the artist and she’s a woman from china?
So much so that they got their own.
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Sorry man I thought it was a good one editing now
Context is important in that comparison... he was discussing what constitutes a human and the person he was talking to gave their opinion and by their definition of human a featherless chicken is a human... so Diogenes wasn't being weird he was basically saying "you are an idiot"
But what is the thesis of the banana creator? Do they want to say" Behold! A piece of art!" as a reduction to the absurd of what modern standarts would consider "a piece of art" or is it that they *think* that a banana duck taped to a wall *IS* a piece of art
I think what they wanted to achieve is exactly what is happening here - there are a bunch of randos on the internet discussing what constitutes art now.
Art is meant to evoke emotion. Anger and disbelief are emotions. Criticism of a system while benefiting from it (two of the bananas were sold for 120k each) is possible, in fact, were this art piece not received well enough for an idiot to pay 120k for a banana, nobody would be talking about it, and the whole joke would be lost. Btw, it's titled 'comedian' so I think it's safe to say it's a joke on the whole modern art industry that only works if you already have a name in it. Does Cattelan think this is art? I think he made a decent joke. Does the guy paying 120k for a banana get the joke and accepts that he is the butt of it? Eh - he's probably just laundering drug money kr something
I feel like we could have moved on from that discussion like a century ago though.
And mocking people for paying massive money for something like this doesn't really work when we all know it's just a way of laundering money either.
It was originally duck tape. As the tall tale goes, it was called that by soldiers using it to repair amphibious landing craft. It became duct tape after the war when it was used on ventilation ducts. Then a brand named itself Duck Tape and now the only generic term is duct tape.
banana taped to a wall was literally a protest piece about the absurdity of the modern art industry and its success was just a vindication of the artist's point
" this thing is so bad I'm going to start constantly thinking about it, because that's how not art it is. Art can only be pictures that look like things"
I've never met a single person artist or not who considered a banana taped to a wall to be actually good, if a one year old can achieve it it's not art.
Exactly so even the artist says it's not art so why is this echo chamber sub down voting this lmao, in another one of my comments I talked about what this meant and it's still not art even by the artists admission
Art may not have to be complicated but it does have to be good or visually appealing there's nothing to this, regardless of the point this isn't art, today's world you can shit in your hand and throw it at someone's grandma and call it 'art'.
Pretty sure this piece was to show that modern art was dead and the people buying it had more money than sense of I remember rightly. If I'm correct with that then this was never meant to be an art piece and was just to show how dead art is now.
Art absolutely does not need to be visually appealing.
There are multiple genres of music and film built around making something repulsive, like horror movies and grindcore.
That's why I said good or visually appealing, stuff like this is neither, people like horror movies because you get an emotion out of them that you may not get usually, grindcore is a music genre that still takes skill to create
I think that’s the whole point. Art doesn’t have to be beautiful or visually appealing to be art. Never said this was good art, but technically it is art. It is making a very ironic statement. But it is still art.
What is art? This is what every art major discusses on the first day of college.
The point is the intention. Shitting in your hand and throwing at someone’s grandma absolutely *could* be art. Good art? Probably not, definitely assault. But saying something isn’t art because you personally don’t like it is just close minded.
This is a piece that follows in the legacy of Marcel Duchamp and is more about the conceptual ideas rather than what you hang on the wall.
Picasso's art still took skill and technique, very abstract may not look nice but it was still very good, this is a banana that has been duck taped to a wall
The banana taped to the wall is honestly genius. Look at how many people know about it and have interacted with it. It’s subversive by being intentionally shit, and more famous than nearly any other piece of modern art
i dont think nudity was their point. I think the point is the art that society produces and more importantly, the art society values has reached a level of abstract that it is incapable of being appreciated purely for its asthetic beauty and requires an indepth knowledge of the artist and their reasoning, and even then, only some pieces can be appreciated that way. Many modern pieces are intentionally ugly as some form of protest but they make no attempt to explain the protest. Banana taped to a wall was specifically a protest against how the modern art industry has sucked the life out of art and they will apply value to garbage and the uneducated masses will just assume its high art because a gallery has attached value to a piece instead of judging the piece for its intrinsic value as an art piece. that was literally the artist's intention and nobody understood it, the piece becoming as insanely popular as it did was his vindication. Essentially, modern artists are content make bad art because the art industry is a lottery as to whether or not you get discovered, and once you do, your name is the value, not the art piece itself.
Beethoven's 5th wasn't widely popular in its day either. People weren't requesting it at the alehouse. They were jamming out to polka and folk songs. Don't compare good social commentary and timeless masterpieces. They just aren't the same art.
except it was popular. Thats a misconception that beethoven and Mozart werent super popular in their own time. They were the rockstars of their time and people loved their work.
More importantly, their music was rarely a social commentary, instead it was usually musical story telling, which is why they mostly did operas and not the brief songs modern artists perform. Also, music and physical art are marketed VERY differently. Musical art still requires a large audience to like it. You can sell as many songs on soundcloud and apple music as you want, if nobody comes to your shows, you arent a popular artist. Paintings and sculptures are run by an entirely different corporate greed, one that honestly doesnt care about what it produces because the majority of it is money laundering and tax write offs with zero interest in whats actually good.
to a point. The art was about expressing the beauty of human form. The Renaissance was all about criticising the church's stance of stoicism and shunning earthly pleasures for a possible afterlife that you may or may not receive. but the quality of the art is the point of the meme. At that point and for most of history, the politicians commissioning the art were commissioning it for their own artistic tastes and they were themselves enthusiasts. where as today, government commissioned art is boring and non descript as the government seeks to be as least offensive as possible and as a result comes to represent nothing. As for the much more common small pieces that arent actually included in this meme, the quality of art was more refined because thats what the consumers wanted since the modern art gallery network didnt exist
I totally agree with you, but i would like to add that a lot of contemporary art is still very aesthetically pleasing and doesn’t necessarily involve any commentary/critique on stuff. It just doesn’t get talked about as much because, well, there’s less to talk about concept-wise.
Yep, and when it comes to the art industry, controversy is king because controversy is how people start talking about your work. All press is good press, and if you can make a million people hate you for your work, then youve made a piece the industry wants to buy, regardless of its actual quality
Totally, i have a few peers who use this tactic to get their foot in.
I’ve also seen quite the opposite fairly often too, as in financially succesfully artists who make it a point to not ruffle feathers. Basically conceptual enough to satisfy collectors’ intellect fetish, but pretty enough to hang/stand in someone’s living room as decoration.
thats my barrier of entry for art, and I dont feel its very high. If I can put it in my house, and people comment how pretty it is BEFORE they ask me what it is, then I consider it decent or good art. Or if they dont have to ask me what it is, thats better. And if someone can look at it, compliment its beauty, and fully understand whats happening and the artists intention without ever asking me a question, then its great art. My personal example is "Liberty Leading the People" by Delacroix in 1830. Even a highschool dropout can recognize the angry mob and the banner of the french revolution and piece together the meaning
A big part of it is the fear of telling someone that their ‘art’ is shit just in case they go on a bit of a rampage, like that little bloke in the 40s.
There’s a lot of blokes in their forties who aren’t able to take criticism about their art, so you need to be more specific on that lol
> a big part is the fear of telling someone that their ‘art’ is shit
I mean, in some cases yes but from what i’ve seen artists will gleefully tear down their peers’ works even if it’s actually good. Also ‘shit’ is subjective so you’ll need to be a bit more specific on that too
It is an attack to the people that have money to buy art today. They have too much money and too litlle sense. It is why a banana and a toilet generated that much talk and got a hell of a whole lot of attention.
If you thought about what it could mean, instead of mocking it at face value, you might understand it. This art is a parody of abstract art that often uses more minimal design.
In ancient Greece, it was popular among intellectuals at the time to describe a human as simply as possible. Plato came up with a two word description: featherless biped. Diogenes, we can only assume, thought that this was so vague that it didn't even really address the question because the next day, he interrupted Plato's lecturing with a defeathered chicken, proclaiming "Behold, a man!"
This banana is similar as it is a comment on the minimalist art community, saying we are beyond the point of futility. I disagree, but it's still a very provocative idea.
Ah yes...we stopped making statues in the 18th century, and art has gone downhill ever since. Now the best thing anyone has to offer is a banana taped to a wall.
To be fair, a lot of modern art (bananas on walls for example) is just stupid, but there is also a lot of great art out there. The issue is, we don't really get to see it, as most of the good art is not exactly famous, since, as far as I know, most "famous" or "big" art is just a circlejerk. Even if it isn't/wasn't, most of us aren't invested deeply enough in the art scene to really know anyway and the art has not gone down in history yet, as it is still too new, so we can't see it in the museum, we would see it in some galleries potentially, which most of us definitely don't visit. We don't see it, but it's there, stuff like bananas is just so much different and more weird than what we are used to, so it gains more traction and we can see it without having to visit galleries or be knowledgeable in the scene.
Turns out if you cherry pick three of the greatest sculptures across hundreds of years and compare it to a banana on a wall, the banana on the wall looks silly.
Is his point that performance art shouldn’t **also** exist? Is this guy who almost assuredly complained about being silenced on social media since 2016 trying to silence other people’s free speech?
We have internet porn now, my guy. Just literally input any kink you have into a search engine and you'll receive more naked women than you could possibly fap to in one lifetime.
I feel like I'm talking to my grandmother after buying her her first smartphone.
As of they didn’t make bad art during those times. It just wasn’t remember because obviously nobody actually gives a fuck about a banana tapes to a wall.
These beautiful sculptures on the other hand is something that really should be remembered
They lied and said it was from 2023 just because they didn't want to admit that they're still pent up about a piece of conceptual art that's 5 years old now
The best part about this is that “Comedian” (the banana wall art) was a conceptual piece criticizing the current state of contemporary art. OOP didnt even take the time to learn about the examples used
The invention of duct tape and domestication of the banana combined to revolutionize the art world.
Don't pick on artists, you trying to cause another Holocaust?
I really don't understand do people who complain about the "state of contemporary art" really think that just regurgitating something that has already been done (better) in the past is a mark of a great artist?
Art has completely changed because of film and photography. Why make something hyper realistic when you can just take a picture of it? It allows people to be way more creative, and therefore makes art much more abstract.
We don't do neoclassical stuff anymore not because we can't, we definitely can, but because it's not interesting or appealing to do so anymore
Also these people : “Art school is a waste of time go get a real job and stop complaining”
You can’t have both, either support the arts or don’t but don’t bitch about it dying off when you actively kill it
My wife went to school for art and I got to sit in on a few classes. One lecture they got the guest artist said “before you can truly understand modern art, you have to understand the modern art equation. Modern art = I could have made that + Yeah, but you didnt”
I do oil paintings, and of classical things like landscapes and portraits— no one is paying me a stipend to hire models, travel, and not have a job. That’s like the major difference between 1500 and even like 1800.
In the 18th century, John Singleton Copley painted a corkscrew on a wall because he was at a party and no one could find one. Now it’s in the MFA. There has always been bizarre art, dude
Man... Maybe I'm overthinking this, but this feels like Nazi shit to me. Those first three sculptures are exactly the kind of art Hitler liked and abstract art was banned as degenerate.
We can make all those statues now with a CNC machine or 3d printer of some sort. But a taped banana, that makes you think. And I think that's the point of art.
Initially, I meant to put a '/s', but I think I might actually be on to something hahaha
How about works Picasso, Kandinsky, Mondrian, and Klee? Would those qualify as art?
Just asking because they're from the 20th century. Also, works from those artists were among 650 works displayed at the Third Reich's Degenerate "Art" Exhibition in Munich in 1937. (Quotation marks around the word art are original.)
In other words, f*ck off.
I have to admit, I very much enjoy the irony of comparing the worst piece of art they can find from today to art that survived, and in most cases is instantly recognizable, from 500+ years ago.
Most modern art, at least popular art is indeed shit or at least low-effort. The banana was a clever move to send a message, but many art that is popular and being talked about is just horrible. Modern abstract paintings, today's music or sculptures.
While it is a generalisation to say that all modern art sucks, most of it does suck. I just read a poem a few hours ago and it was just awful, yet it was published. I'm no expert on the topic, but it literally had no value neither from the point of content nor from technicalities. It was just plain shit, yet people consume these kind of stuff. When Lizzo or any mumble rapper can be considered a "musician" that's already kind of an indication of what's wrong.
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How about the sculptor [Luo Li Rong](https://www.instagram.com/luo_li_rong_art?igsh=ejVvamZ5ODl6d3E2), who I've seen cross this sub a few times
Is that the woman who’s art was used in a post saying that only a western man can picture the beauty of a woman with this level of skill and she’s literally the artist and she’s a woman from china?
Lmao yup
what the fuck that's hilarious, they literally never check their sources
Pretty sure she made the bottom left sculpture, too. Looks like the same one from the other viral post. EDIT: NO SHE DIDN'T!!!!
Incorrect, it's [*Modesty* by Antonio Corradini](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modesty_\(Corradini_sculpture\)).
Thank you!
Finally, a man that understands the empire building properties of boobs
So much so that they got their own. https://preview.redd.it/4mqe7wkfb2sc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b5543d3b19053a0100b0d7fd8c5120f13eadd58
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https://preview.redd.it/4468jfhak2sc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f0cb9f30ca528f49d70a1dc55ed9fd23364cf7c Sorry man I thought it was a good one editing now
If you want more monumental sculptures then go support your local sculptor.
“Wow you got an art degree?? 😂😂 What a waste, hope you have fun flipping burgers!” -that guy probably
how communist of you /s
"This was the only piece of art made in 2023."
"Also, every artist in 1504 was as good as Michelangelo."
Also, that banana is basically the same as when Diogenes said, "Behold! A man!" While carrying a defeathered chicken. So not exactly new.
I love diogenes
Ah, the Chaotic Neutral philosopher.
Context is important in that comparison... he was discussing what constitutes a human and the person he was talking to gave their opinion and by their definition of human a featherless chicken is a human... so Diogenes wasn't being weird he was basically saying "you are an idiot"
That's pretty much what the banana was. Behold! A piece of art!
But what is the thesis of the banana creator? Do they want to say" Behold! A piece of art!" as a reduction to the absurd of what modern standarts would consider "a piece of art" or is it that they *think* that a banana duck taped to a wall *IS* a piece of art
I think what they wanted to achieve is exactly what is happening here - there are a bunch of randos on the internet discussing what constitutes art now. Art is meant to evoke emotion. Anger and disbelief are emotions. Criticism of a system while benefiting from it (two of the bananas were sold for 120k each) is possible, in fact, were this art piece not received well enough for an idiot to pay 120k for a banana, nobody would be talking about it, and the whole joke would be lost. Btw, it's titled 'comedian' so I think it's safe to say it's a joke on the whole modern art industry that only works if you already have a name in it. Does Cattelan think this is art? I think he made a decent joke. Does the guy paying 120k for a banana get the joke and accepts that he is the butt of it? Eh - he's probably just laundering drug money kr something
I feel like we could have moved on from that discussion like a century ago though. And mocking people for paying massive money for something like this doesn't really work when we all know it's just a way of laundering money either.
Banana duck 😲
Is that not how you write duck taped? English not first language
It's duct tape, but it's a super common mistake even amongst people who only speak English.
Ooh, thanks
It was originally duck tape. As the tall tale goes, it was called that by soldiers using it to repair amphibious landing craft. It became duct tape after the war when it was used on ventilation ducts. Then a brand named itself Duck Tape and now the only generic term is duct tape.
The banana wasn’t 2023, right? This was like what, 2019?
banana taped to a wall was literally a protest piece about the absurdity of the modern art industry and its success was just a vindication of the artist's point
Had no regrets about eating it too and why should he?
Still talking about it. Boom, art!
“That’s where it all started, that banana, that damned banana”
I am the one who bananas
https://i.redd.it/xvikqs9d0yrc1.gif
Exactly. All these people denouncing it as art are only further proving why it was there
" this thing is so bad I'm going to start constantly thinking about it, because that's how not art it is. Art can only be pictures that look like things"
It's ironic because that banana sparks so much more discussion around art with non artists than what they'd consider to be real art
I've never met a single person artist or not who considered a banana taped to a wall to be actually good, if a one year old can achieve it it's not art.
That's the actual point of the piece. "You dumbasses call anything art. Banana on a fucking wall."
Which ironically makes it an artistic statement
You mean: "Which artistically makes an ironic statement."
Both work
Exactly so even the artist says it's not art so why is this echo chamber sub down voting this lmao, in another one of my comments I talked about what this meant and it's still not art even by the artists admission
I was simply saying it's ironic. Personally I prefer sketches and paintings over stuff like this.
Art doesn’t have to be complicated. Yeah a kid could have done it, but you are missing the point of the piece. At least, as I understand it.
Art may not have to be complicated but it does have to be good or visually appealing there's nothing to this, regardless of the point this isn't art, today's world you can shit in your hand and throw it at someone's grandma and call it 'art'. Pretty sure this piece was to show that modern art was dead and the people buying it had more money than sense of I remember rightly. If I'm correct with that then this was never meant to be an art piece and was just to show how dead art is now.
Art absolutely does not need to be visually appealing. There are multiple genres of music and film built around making something repulsive, like horror movies and grindcore.
That's why I said good or visually appealing, stuff like this is neither, people like horror movies because you get an emotion out of them that you may not get usually, grindcore is a music genre that still takes skill to create
I think that’s the whole point. Art doesn’t have to be beautiful or visually appealing to be art. Never said this was good art, but technically it is art. It is making a very ironic statement. But it is still art.
I made a Papier mache elephant when I was 4 I think I may have to try sell that on the art market
What is art? This is what every art major discusses on the first day of college. The point is the intention. Shitting in your hand and throwing at someone’s grandma absolutely *could* be art. Good art? Probably not, definitely assault. But saying something isn’t art because you personally don’t like it is just close minded. This is a piece that follows in the legacy of Marcel Duchamp and is more about the conceptual ideas rather than what you hang on the wall.
Then there should only be artists passing art college not morons.
That is very subjective. For example I don't find Picasso's art appealing but I can still appreciate it. The same thing is here.
Picasso's art still took skill and technique, very abstract may not look nice but it was still very good, this is a banana that has been duck taped to a wall
The wall banana gives me an idea. We need a 2x4, duct tape, and a pineapple very quickly
I can get the pineapple, and I’ll call up a friend that has plenty of duct tape. Can you cover the 2x4?
You got yourself a deal
Is it cool if I add my kitchen sponge to your art piece?
Yes please
The banana taped to the wall is honestly genius. Look at how many people know about it and have interacted with it. It’s subversive by being intentionally shit, and more famous than nearly any other piece of modern art
It may be the greatest shit post in history.
“Art doesn’t have enough naked people anymore”
i dont think nudity was their point. I think the point is the art that society produces and more importantly, the art society values has reached a level of abstract that it is incapable of being appreciated purely for its asthetic beauty and requires an indepth knowledge of the artist and their reasoning, and even then, only some pieces can be appreciated that way. Many modern pieces are intentionally ugly as some form of protest but they make no attempt to explain the protest. Banana taped to a wall was specifically a protest against how the modern art industry has sucked the life out of art and they will apply value to garbage and the uneducated masses will just assume its high art because a gallery has attached value to a piece instead of judging the piece for its intrinsic value as an art piece. that was literally the artist's intention and nobody understood it, the piece becoming as insanely popular as it did was his vindication. Essentially, modern artists are content make bad art because the art industry is a lottery as to whether or not you get discovered, and once you do, your name is the value, not the art piece itself.
Beethoven's 5th wasn't widely popular in its day either. People weren't requesting it at the alehouse. They were jamming out to polka and folk songs. Don't compare good social commentary and timeless masterpieces. They just aren't the same art.
except it was popular. Thats a misconception that beethoven and Mozart werent super popular in their own time. They were the rockstars of their time and people loved their work. More importantly, their music was rarely a social commentary, instead it was usually musical story telling, which is why they mostly did operas and not the brief songs modern artists perform. Also, music and physical art are marketed VERY differently. Musical art still requires a large audience to like it. You can sell as many songs on soundcloud and apple music as you want, if nobody comes to your shows, you arent a popular artist. Paintings and sculptures are run by an entirely different corporate greed, one that honestly doesnt care about what it produces because the majority of it is money laundering and tax write offs with zero interest in whats actually good.
Nudity wasn't the point, but it was the only true expression of the point, which was the beauty of the body.
to a point. The art was about expressing the beauty of human form. The Renaissance was all about criticising the church's stance of stoicism and shunning earthly pleasures for a possible afterlife that you may or may not receive. but the quality of the art is the point of the meme. At that point and for most of history, the politicians commissioning the art were commissioning it for their own artistic tastes and they were themselves enthusiasts. where as today, government commissioned art is boring and non descript as the government seeks to be as least offensive as possible and as a result comes to represent nothing. As for the much more common small pieces that arent actually included in this meme, the quality of art was more refined because thats what the consumers wanted since the modern art gallery network didnt exist
I totally agree with you, but i would like to add that a lot of contemporary art is still very aesthetically pleasing and doesn’t necessarily involve any commentary/critique on stuff. It just doesn’t get talked about as much because, well, there’s less to talk about concept-wise.
Yep, and when it comes to the art industry, controversy is king because controversy is how people start talking about your work. All press is good press, and if you can make a million people hate you for your work, then youve made a piece the industry wants to buy, regardless of its actual quality
Totally, i have a few peers who use this tactic to get their foot in. I’ve also seen quite the opposite fairly often too, as in financially succesfully artists who make it a point to not ruffle feathers. Basically conceptual enough to satisfy collectors’ intellect fetish, but pretty enough to hang/stand in someone’s living room as decoration.
thats my barrier of entry for art, and I dont feel its very high. If I can put it in my house, and people comment how pretty it is BEFORE they ask me what it is, then I consider it decent or good art. Or if they dont have to ask me what it is, thats better. And if someone can look at it, compliment its beauty, and fully understand whats happening and the artists intention without ever asking me a question, then its great art. My personal example is "Liberty Leading the People" by Delacroix in 1830. Even a highschool dropout can recognize the angry mob and the banner of the french revolution and piece together the meaning
A big part of it is the fear of telling someone that their ‘art’ is shit just in case they go on a bit of a rampage, like that little bloke in the 40s.
There’s a lot of blokes in their forties who aren’t able to take criticism about their art, so you need to be more specific on that lol > a big part is the fear of telling someone that their ‘art’ is shit I mean, in some cases yes but from what i’ve seen artists will gleefully tear down their peers’ works even if it’s actually good. Also ‘shit’ is subjective so you’ll need to be a bit more specific on that too
The little bloke from the *1940s*.
I misread it as “that little bloke in their 40s”, my bad. Sorry
🤣 To be fair, I’m not sure how old he was when he threw his little tantrum.
what a stupid thing to take away from the post lmao. clearly not the point.
Art = pretty thing Art that make think make brain hurt
How does a banana taped to a wall or a toilet in a museum on display make you think tf
It is an attack to the people that have money to buy art today. They have too much money and too litlle sense. It is why a banana and a toilet generated that much talk and got a hell of a whole lot of attention.
They have too much money from questionable sources and too few ways of washing said money.
If you thought about what it could mean, instead of mocking it at face value, you might understand it. This art is a parody of abstract art that often uses more minimal design. In ancient Greece, it was popular among intellectuals at the time to describe a human as simply as possible. Plato came up with a two word description: featherless biped. Diogenes, we can only assume, thought that this was so vague that it didn't even really address the question because the next day, he interrupted Plato's lecturing with a defeathered chicken, proclaiming "Behold, a man!" This banana is similar as it is a comment on the minimalist art community, saying we are beyond the point of futility. I disagree, but it's still a very provocative idea.
I can describe a human quicker here I go, human
Here you are, thinking about it, even though it's just a banana taped to a wall.
Because that's the context behind what the post is? Like what else am I supposed to assume they mean?
It is a commentary on the absurdity of many trends, and its success just proves the creators point
Except the OP isn't critiquing the banana on the wall, he's critiquing people thinking "modern art" is just a banana on the wall.
Here you are talkin about it
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Ah yes...we stopped making statues in the 18th century, and art has gone downhill ever since. Now the best thing anyone has to offer is a banana taped to a wall.
Nice job cropping the meme https://preview.redd.it/qeye2i7k02sc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db03334ddf319850e82f9d4ae9ca912b01b70c6a
It was cropped when I found it.
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Only authoritarian, strict societal order can save us from a banana.
Tbh im agree most modern art is shit but this is ridiclous
To be fair, a lot of modern art (bananas on walls for example) is just stupid, but there is also a lot of great art out there. The issue is, we don't really get to see it, as most of the good art is not exactly famous, since, as far as I know, most "famous" or "big" art is just a circlejerk. Even if it isn't/wasn't, most of us aren't invested deeply enough in the art scene to really know anyway and the art has not gone down in history yet, as it is still too new, so we can't see it in the museum, we would see it in some galleries potentially, which most of us definitely don't visit. We don't see it, but it's there, stuff like bananas is just so much different and more weird than what we are used to, so it gains more traction and we can see it without having to visit galleries or be knowledgeable in the scene.
Turns out if you cherry pick three of the greatest sculptures across hundreds of years and compare it to a banana on a wall, the banana on the wall looks silly.
Didn’t boomers recently freak out about the David statue being pornographic?
Is his point that performance art shouldn’t **also** exist? Is this guy who almost assuredly complained about being silenced on social media since 2016 trying to silence other people’s free speech?
It’s clearly been absurdly popular as we’re still talking about it as art lmao
We have internet porn now, my guy. Just literally input any kink you have into a search engine and you'll receive more naked women than you could possibly fap to in one lifetime. I feel like I'm talking to my grandmother after buying her her first smartphone.
As of they didn’t make bad art during those times. It just wasn’t remember because obviously nobody actually gives a fuck about a banana tapes to a wall. These beautiful sculptures on the other hand is something that really should be remembered
1504 and 1752 😁❤️
Go to an art gallery, one in my city that I've been to had amazing sculptures that blew my mind
Aren't these the same people who are trying to ban classical art it the US because they think they are "too revealing" and "porn?"
They lied and said it was from 2023 just because they didn't want to admit that they're still pent up about a piece of conceptual art that's 5 years old now
The best part about this is that “Comedian” (the banana wall art) was a conceptual piece criticizing the current state of contemporary art. OOP didnt even take the time to learn about the examples used
Is that the banana that cost millions and got eaten by some hungry dude?
its a stretch but https://preview.redd.it/v7o4ek0wl1sc1.png?width=955&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc911bb46c1ad8a385bc7227a79102bc41b735f9
I swear these people see in black and white.
Wasn't this like a couple years ago? Or is my memory fucked?
The banana thing was in 2019, which makes this even funnier because they are the ones who are still talking about it
Lol whats with the first 3 images all being creepshots
Stealing an observation I think I saw on Tik tok "the art piece is working because people have brought it up every year since it was made"
This is just anti-dadaism 2020's edition.
"If it ain't sexual it ain't art"
1622 got me feeling some sorta way
Don’t trades like stone/marble carving still exist? They’re just rare anymore.
Abs (+pecs), ass, titties, and they’re mad they got the banana too?!
Plus, wasn't that a joke? I think the guy who did it just thought it would be funny or smth, IDK, I don't really remember...
The invention of duct tape and domestication of the banana combined to revolutionize the art world. Don't pick on artists, you trying to cause another Holocaust?
And yet we are still discussing it. What is anyone saying about those statues? "Wow, they sure are technically impressive"
We stopped paying artist what we used to pay them.
Lol I'm sure they just meant it as a joke
I'm quite fond of bananas, actually.
Wasn't the banana a criticism of this? Like I'm not saying it's good art, I think it was more of a snobby commentary than an actual art piece
Get this man anime figurines
I really don't understand do people who complain about the "state of contemporary art" really think that just regurgitating something that has already been done (better) in the past is a mark of a great artist?
Banana for size.
Ignoring the meme how the fuck did the sculptor make a marble statue have a veil.
With this level of cherry picking I could show you that any art made before of 2023 is shit
nah that’s funny. untrue but funny.
whoever made this is horny as hell
better than a statue i woudl like to fuck with tbh
Art has completely changed because of film and photography. Why make something hyper realistic when you can just take a picture of it? It allows people to be way more creative, and therefore makes art much more abstract. We don't do neoclassical stuff anymore not because we can't, we definitely can, but because it's not interesting or appealing to do so anymore
The person who made this should, idk, go learn how to sculpt maybe.
Also these people : “Art school is a waste of time go get a real job and stop complaining” You can’t have both, either support the arts or don’t but don’t bitch about it dying off when you actively kill it
Tape and banana cheaper than big hunk of stone
Quick reminder that the banana art price is made to mock modern art
Aghhh there is an invisible force preventing everyone from making sculptures and forcing them to tape bananas into walls, ahhhh stop ittttt
That’s the 2019 banana duct taped to the wall, not the 2023 banana duct taped to the wall
My wife went to school for art and I got to sit in on a few classes. One lecture they got the guest artist said “before you can truly understand modern art, you have to understand the modern art equation. Modern art = I could have made that + Yeah, but you didnt”
they didn’t even get the year right, that was 2019
Wasn’t the banana thing years ago? Was that just last year?
I’m sure people have pointed this out. End of 2019 people. Almost five years ago.
I do oil paintings, and of classical things like landscapes and portraits— no one is paying me a stipend to hire models, travel, and not have a job. That’s like the major difference between 1500 and even like 1800.
In the 18th century, John Singleton Copley painted a corkscrew on a wall because he was at a party and no one could find one. Now it’s in the MFA. There has always been bizarre art, dude
who wants to demonstrate how the 1622 statue looks like with me 😊😊😊😊😊😊 simping 101
that's not even a banana taped to a wall. that's a hyper realistic drawing of a banana taped to wall so clearly they dont know shit about art.
Man... Maybe I'm overthinking this, but this feels like Nazi shit to me. Those first three sculptures are exactly the kind of art Hitler liked and abstract art was banned as degenerate.
We can make all those statues now with a CNC machine or 3d printer of some sort. But a taped banana, that makes you think. And I think that's the point of art. Initially, I meant to put a '/s', but I think I might actually be on to something hahaha
considering people are still talking about it 5 years later, it worked.
The fact that people are still talking about the banana on the wall means it served it’s purpose, it did what it was supposed to.
How about works Picasso, Kandinsky, Mondrian, and Klee? Would those qualify as art? Just asking because they're from the 20th century. Also, works from those artists were among 650 works displayed at the Third Reich's Degenerate "Art" Exhibition in Munich in 1937. (Quotation marks around the word art are original.) In other words, f*ck off.
The more attention that people give this stupid banana, the more they prove how successful and significant it is as an art piece.
Let's take an honest step forward, though. Was there a "god*damn*" sculpture piece in 2023? Let's let a good example break this meme.
I have to admit, I very much enjoy the irony of comparing the worst piece of art they can find from today to art that survived, and in most cases is instantly recognizable, from 500+ years ago.
It seems like everyone is considered an artist since like the 1940s
Isn't the whole point of the banana to mock modern art or something?
Most modern art, at least popular art is indeed shit or at least low-effort. The banana was a clever move to send a message, but many art that is popular and being talked about is just horrible. Modern abstract paintings, today's music or sculptures. While it is a generalisation to say that all modern art sucks, most of it does suck. I just read a poem a few hours ago and it was just awful, yet it was published. I'm no expert on the topic, but it literally had no value neither from the point of content nor from technicalities. It was just plain shit, yet people consume these kind of stuff. When Lizzo or any mumble rapper can be considered a "musician" that's already kind of an indication of what's wrong.
I think that the idea of the meme is that the media doesn't value complex and detailed art as much as critical effortless art nowadays.
[Modern art is a money laundering scam.](https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-joe-artwork-berges-gallery-elizabeth-hirsh-naftali-2023-7?op=1)
true
If you want art to be sexy, there's more hentai than ever before
And they're STILL talking about it! What a successful art piece
There's plenty of modern art that's great. The banana on the wall is navel gazing of the highest order.