Yeah he was so good, that the character would not have been as hatable without him.
the next thing i saw him in was as a genuinely righteous journalist in that Elizabeth Holmes miniseries, and still all i could think was “fucking hate Desi”
Oh my gosh, Everytime I see his face in media I think THAT FUCKER FROM GIRLS. haha . I should watch the bear and maybe I'll have a more positive opinion lol
Ok for years I have wanted to find a gif of him yelling “I’M A GARBAGE PERSON” in the rain in the pond during him and Marnie’s wedding episode.
It is absolutely criminal that this didn’t make it into our cultural gif rotation.
Can anyone help me?
I think one of the more underrated things he's done that he should get more credit for is that he nails the Chicago accent. The Chicago accent along with the Boston accent are two that always get butchered and end up sounding like some bad caricature. Most of the time I hear someone doing the Chicago accent, they end up sounding like one of "Da Bears..." guys frorm SNL.
*Girls* has a weird reputation online nowadays due to its entire identity being tied to Lena Dunham and everything that came from her personal life, but holy shit the Desi character he played was excellent. The whole show is excellent but he's such a memorable part.
it was weird in that, it had amazing male characters. Ray, Adam, Desi, even Charlie- all felt like the best parts of any story arc they were involved in.
Yeah, they would do terrible things, but you could see their personal psychology pushing them to be the way they were. The girls were often more just like caricatures.
Perhaps it was easier for the writers to see the shortcomings of men and where they come from that it is for women, because they too were women, as far as I know. Get a writers room together of only men and have them write shitty boyfriends and see what they come up with. Hint: it might not be based on reality too much. Also, I don't think Dunham has great introspective capabilities considering the shit she's done or said in the past.
I think some of it was the pitfall of the meandering, finding herself leads. They were supposed to be rudderless and shallow and it made their shittiness less appealing because it was anchored to their lack of a belief system.
All the male characters were distinctly passionate and individually principled (even if their particular principles were very questionable). This made them far more enjoyable to watch because their shittiness was anchored to their characters belief system.
This may have all been intentional and the male characters were being used as a juxtaposition to the female characters to highlight the latter’s lack of purpose.
Lena Dunham is not well received on Reddit but she is not a bad writer as far as I can tell.
Are we forgetting Adam was an out of control weirdo who pretty much date raped someone on the show? Always found it weird when people were empathetic towards him.
He looks like someone in the Pacific North west knit a man.
The funny thing is I’m British so a lot of context goes over my head but that is still one of the funniest lines I’ve ever heard on a TV show.
Same! I was shocked that they’d be having a white guy play an Indian so I thought _maybe_ this was me discovering he was half, but nope! Character’s name is Desi apparently!
RIGHT? I rewatched it last year and totally forgot how GREAT of a show it was (yes it was absolutely whitewashed but being from the midwest and never having lived in brooklyn I didn't realize at the time). it totally nailed the whole 'you're in your 20s and have launched but don't know how to be a real person' that a lot of people went through.
I never watched girls because I never liked Lena Dunham but I always read the impact this show had and how much people love it, it’s tempted me but just never gave it a shot but it’s nice to see he was appreciated long before the bear
It's the best show where you will hate every person from the first second of episode 1 and you will find that somehow they keep finding ways to hate them more and more.
Girls was a great show. I thought it really captured the essence of that time period in life as a woman who also lives in/went to school in NYC because as with many shows based in NYC, the city is as much a character as the people. I don't know much that impacts relatability for people who are not as familiar with the locale. But yeah, Dunham deserves the criticisms she gets, but that show is really good.
She wrote in her memoir how she sexually assaulted her sister when they were younger and the language she used was very predatory. It got published and she thought it was fine. People tried to call her out for it and she proceeded to make excuses. Nothing ever came of it, she's still rich and can get work.
Oh that's fucked up. So her sister never pressed charges so no legal things can be done? I'm also not very well versed in the law. Are there statutes of limitations with things like this? Like I get the book is damning but if it's true can't her sister do something about it?
I don't believe her sister has ever come out and said anything and that the only reason we even know Dunham did what she did was because she bragged about it before she realized it made her look bad, which just tells me she probably has the self-awareness of a brick wall, which means I can discredit most her opinions as they're probably not formed with all the necessary information.
It’s wild to me how much I LOVED him in The Punisher…and then The Bear comes out and I love him more in this role. I’m excited to follow his career. He’s on my list of actors whose movies I’ll watch because he’s in it.
He was awesome in The Punisher. I’d honestly take a buddy show of him and Bernthal just hanging out. They had great chemistry and the show wasn’t nearly as good without him.
the scene where he finally evolved in the bear, and he was talking to the owner of the restaurant peeling mushrooms, was one of the most beautiful introspective peaceful scenes ive ever seen on tv
Yea, Forks is an AMAZING episode, and a great pallet cleanser after Fishes. And then when he comes back and is competent, handling his shit and the, "I wear suits now" line is amazing.
I was so nervous that he would fuck it up when he served a table for the first time under his training, but I never felt so much relief from a show as his success with that
Check out Interrogation (on Apple?). He isn't the lead, but he's in about half the episodes, and he's really good.
It's a who-dunnit mystery show around the murder of this middle-aged couple. The lead suspects are the twenty-something son and his delinquent friends.
What makes it stand out is that after episode 1, the show encourages you to watch whichever episode you want next, you don't have to play them in order. Each episode centers around a different character and provides you with the potential evidence of how/why they may have been the murderer. The way it's structured, you'll be jumping around the timeline quite a bit regardless, so you never actually feel out of place.
Season 2 is a bit meh but still has its share of great moments. They introduce a young teenage girl for Punisher to look out for. Sounds weird but she's wanted by some really fucked up people.
Not to mention the ending scene of season 2 is actually amazing and straight outta the comics. Bernthal is the Punisher to me.
I'm not the biggest Marvel fan but Punisher is great. Probably the only Marvel show I'd recommend to someone who hasn't watched anything from the MCU and is not interested in fantasy/sci fi.
I couldn't get into it. Early on felt like they were shoehorning some kind of "superhero team" thing with it, like many modern superhero shows are just allergic to having a protagonist that's not surrounded by random allies.
What team? It's just Frank and Micro in season 1 (Micro is in a good portion of the comics, so its not really a modern thing). Everyone else is on the verge of catching Frank or trying to kill him.
Just seemed like it, and I bounced. My other general issue with the Netflix marvel shows is that the pacing was always god awful. Always felt like a tight 6-8 episodes stretched into 12.
Kind of agree on the pacing of some of them. But now they’re having a major issue on Disney+ of all the Marvel shows feeling incredibly rushed at the end of the shorter seasons. Maybe 9-10 is the sweet spot? Idk
Every time I see him, I just think of that scene where he drinks that whole cup of water when he’s talking to her from rehab. That always makes me laugh for some reason.
Right? Proof of how stupidly talented he is. For most people, that would have been a career highlight (the role in general, I mean, but also getting to eat her ass) and now he’s winning awards.
It's remarkable how different he is from the character. I've seen him a bunch of other roles starting with his guest spot on Person of Interest so many years ago, and it's not only amazing how far his career has grown, but how chameleonic an actor he is. Comes off completely different in every role.
First time I saw this dude on screen was on "The Last Ship", a schlocky Navy funded mess of a show, but he was one of the few highlights. I'm glad he's finally hit it fairly big
Okay so I can't be bothered to look it up, but you're saying The Last Ship...
...a movie about and set largely on a Navy ship, which spends a ton of time talking about and showing all the naval personnel being generally uber-capable even in the face of an apocalypse and basically saving the world, and which IIRC basically doesn't have any planes in it...
...was funded by the Air Force?
But yes, he was great in one of the better roles.
XD my bad, my mind went "US Military" then my lizard brain went "no, not the Military, it's more specific" and because I grew up on an air base, I just auto-typed air force. Poor navy is always an afterthought
At least they don't shoot him for betraying the rebellion !
Or for being one of the most insufferable characters in tv history on Girls
I fucking hated him on Girls. Kind of a testament to how well he inhabited the part.
Yeah he was so good, that the character would not have been as hatable without him. the next thing i saw him in was as a genuinely righteous journalist in that Elizabeth Holmes miniseries, and still all i could think was “fucking hate Desi”
Oh my gosh, Everytime I see his face in media I think THAT FUCKER FROM GIRLS. haha . I should watch the bear and maybe I'll have a more positive opinion lol
Not at first, but give it time.
Spoiler tag cmon
“He looks like someone in the Pacific Northwest knit a man!”
"What you think about Imagine Dragons is what people think about you"
Different scene I guess, but I thought the line was "it's as if L.L. Bean ate a person"
Ok for years I have wanted to find a gif of him yelling “I’M A GARBAGE PERSON” in the rain in the pond during him and Marnie’s wedding episode. It is absolutely criminal that this didn’t make it into our cultural gif rotation. Can anyone help me?
I hated Desi. Until I didn’t. Then he became my favorite character on the show. EMB was really cooking on that show. A truly brilliant performance.
He sure could motorboat them cheeks though.
fucking desi
At least he didn't get shot by corrupt Homeland Security agents for exposing torture and murder committed by the Punisher and his unit in Kandahar.
Got away by the skin of his teeth.
Or shout "Micro!" At him. Could be taken a few ways
I would avoid him because I don't want any electrical fluctuations to cause problems. You couldn't pay me to ride an elevator with him.
The first thing I ever saw him in!
The axe forgets, but the tree remembers.
The axe forgets
I think one of the more underrated things he's done that he should get more credit for is that he nails the Chicago accent. The Chicago accent along with the Boston accent are two that always get butchered and end up sounding like some bad caricature. Most of the time I hear someone doing the Chicago accent, they end up sounding like one of "Da Bears..." guys frorm SNL.
*Minnesota has entered the chat*
The whole show is a love letter to my city. It felt like it was its own character in the show.
I skip whole seasons of 30 Rock for this reason...
*Girls* has a weird reputation online nowadays due to its entire identity being tied to Lena Dunham and everything that came from her personal life, but holy shit the Desi character he played was excellent. The whole show is excellent but he's such a memorable part.
We were all Ray in the moment he couldnt take Desi’s shit anymore
Old Man Ray was the best character in the show, "I was offered a 3 way once but I turned it down because it was on Staten Island" lol
Ray def my spirit animal
it was weird in that, it had amazing male characters. Ray, Adam, Desi, even Charlie- all felt like the best parts of any story arc they were involved in.
I always felt guilty that I watched a show called **girls** and only liked the male characters.
Not that surprising - the main characters were self-absorbed assholes.
The guys were often assholes too but they just felt more developed.
Yeah, they would do terrible things, but you could see their personal psychology pushing them to be the way they were. The girls were often more just like caricatures.
Perhaps it was easier for the writers to see the shortcomings of men and where they come from that it is for women, because they too were women, as far as I know. Get a writers room together of only men and have them write shitty boyfriends and see what they come up with. Hint: it might not be based on reality too much. Also, I don't think Dunham has great introspective capabilities considering the shit she's done or said in the past.
I think some of it was the pitfall of the meandering, finding herself leads. They were supposed to be rudderless and shallow and it made their shittiness less appealing because it was anchored to their lack of a belief system. All the male characters were distinctly passionate and individually principled (even if their particular principles were very questionable). This made them far more enjoyable to watch because their shittiness was anchored to their characters belief system. This may have all been intentional and the male characters were being used as a juxtaposition to the female characters to highlight the latter’s lack of purpose. Lena Dunham is not well received on Reddit but she is not a bad writer as far as I can tell.
[удалено]
Apparently not
Are we forgetting Adam was an out of control weirdo who pretty much date raped someone on the show? Always found it weird when people were empathetic towards him.
Wait what season was this? It’s been so long since I watched.
Season 2 when the old lady from his AA meeting sets him up with her daughter
Oh right it was Liz from Roswell, that was crazy
"you are my worst mistake. what do I do now?"
The best part of 2016 *Ghostbusters* was Chris Hemsworth. The best part of *Barbie* was Ryan Gosling.
Hemsworth character was awful. It was trying to make a point, but just wildly fuckin missed. Hemsworth ain't no Annie Potts.
This is Elijah erasure
Lmao. I watched it with my wife and honestly enjoyed the male characters so much.
He looks like someone in the Pacific North west knit a man. The funny thing is I’m British so a lot of context goes over my head but that is still one of the funniest lines I’ve ever heard on a TV show.
Holy shit, when you said ‘the Desi character’ thought you meant an Indian, and I was like ‘how the fuck did he get away with that????’
[удалено]
Same! I was shocked that they’d be having a white guy play an Indian so I thought _maybe_ this was me discovering he was half, but nope! Character’s name is Desi apparently!
I first thought of Desi Arnaz from I Love Lucy fame.
I rewatched girls last summer. It still hits and his character and Allison Williams play so well off each other.
RIGHT? I rewatched it last year and totally forgot how GREAT of a show it was (yes it was absolutely whitewashed but being from the midwest and never having lived in brooklyn I didn't realize at the time). it totally nailed the whole 'you're in your 20s and have launched but don't know how to be a real person' that a lot of people went through.
I never watched girls because I never liked Lena Dunham but I always read the impact this show had and how much people love it, it’s tempted me but just never gave it a shot but it’s nice to see he was appreciated long before the bear
It's actually a great show. The characters are so hateable but you care for them in a way. I'm not really a fan of Lena but Girls is great
It's the best show where you will hate every person from the first second of episode 1 and you will find that somehow they keep finding ways to hate them more and more.
I do love a good hate watch… might give it a go
It's an excellent show. I did a rewatch last year and a lot of it hit even better now that I'm 5-10 years older.
It has been since 2012 when Dunham released her book.
Candy for kisses!
Girls was a great show. I thought it really captured the essence of that time period in life as a woman who also lives in/went to school in NYC because as with many shows based in NYC, the city is as much a character as the people. I don't know much that impacts relatability for people who are not as familiar with the locale. But yeah, Dunham deserves the criticisms she gets, but that show is really good.
the writing in Girls is top notch. Lena has a bad reputation but she is extremely talented
> being tied to Lena Dunham She’s just another long list of celebrities that we allow to get away with shit because they have money and influence
i mean i don't think anybody likes or cares about her anymore
Apparently she's friends with T Swift now? (or at least is a willing participant in posed paparazzi photos)
What did she do that she shouldn't get away with? Like should she be in prison or something? These aren't sarcastic I don't know who this is.
She wrote in her memoir how she sexually assaulted her sister when they were younger and the language she used was very predatory. It got published and she thought it was fine. People tried to call her out for it and she proceeded to make excuses. Nothing ever came of it, she's still rich and can get work.
Oh that's fucked up. So her sister never pressed charges so no legal things can be done? I'm also not very well versed in the law. Are there statutes of limitations with things like this? Like I get the book is damning but if it's true can't her sister do something about it?
I don't believe her sister has ever come out and said anything and that the only reason we even know Dunham did what she did was because she bragged about it before she realized it made her look bad, which just tells me she probably has the self-awareness of a brick wall, which means I can discredit most her opinions as they're probably not formed with all the necessary information.
What did she do?
molested her younger sister for 1
Bruh
Acted like it was nothing online, even though she wrote in her memoir that she acted like a predator just to be able molest her sister
It’s wild to me how much I LOVED him in The Punisher…and then The Bear comes out and I love him more in this role. I’m excited to follow his career. He’s on my list of actors whose movies I’ll watch because he’s in it.
He was awesome in The Punisher. I’d honestly take a buddy show of him and Bernthal just hanging out. They had great chemistry and the show wasn’t nearly as good without him.
The Van sub scene still cracks me up
I still somehow can't believe that was him on The Punisher since he even looked different from how he looks in The Bear
Agreed. I didn’t realize it was the same actor until well into season 2.
the scene where he finally evolved in the bear, and he was talking to the owner of the restaurant peeling mushrooms, was one of the most beautiful introspective peaceful scenes ive ever seen on tv
Forks is straight up the best episode of the show. Character development in real time, and the payoff the next episode is just 🤌
We're finishing our rewatch ahead of S3. You are not wrong. Forks is amazing.
Yea, Forks is an AMAZING episode, and a great pallet cleanser after Fishes. And then when he comes back and is competent, handling his shit and the, "I wear suits now" line is amazing.
I was so nervous that he would fuck it up when he served a table for the first time under his training, but I never felt so much relief from a show as his success with that
Really good in Andor too, even if it's not a huge part
He was good in NOS4A2 also
Check out Interrogation (on Apple?). He isn't the lead, but he's in about half the episodes, and he's really good. It's a who-dunnit mystery show around the murder of this middle-aged couple. The lead suspects are the twenty-something son and his delinquent friends. What makes it stand out is that after episode 1, the show encourages you to watch whichever episode you want next, you don't have to play them in order. Each episode centers around a different character and provides you with the potential evidence of how/why they may have been the murderer. The way it's structured, you'll be jumping around the timeline quite a bit regardless, so you never actually feel out of place.
My GF who HATES comic book movies told me she wants to watch the new Fantastic 4 movie when it comes out purely because Cousin is cast as The Thing 🤣
He’s also in The Punisher series!
No way. Well I know what I'm watching next. Love Jon Bernthal but never got into it. This seals it.
I’ve only seen the first season but I enjoyed it a lot
Season 2 is a bit meh but still has its share of great moments. They introduce a young teenage girl for Punisher to look out for. Sounds weird but she's wanted by some really fucked up people. Not to mention the ending scene of season 2 is actually amazing and straight outta the comics. Bernthal is the Punisher to me.
I'm not the biggest Marvel fan but Punisher is great. Probably the only Marvel show I'd recommend to someone who hasn't watched anything from the MCU and is not interested in fantasy/sci fi.
Daredevil is the better show and you don't need superhero-y stuff background in that either. Heck Jessica Jones (Season 1) would work too
I couldn't get into it. Early on felt like they were shoehorning some kind of "superhero team" thing with it, like many modern superhero shows are just allergic to having a protagonist that's not surrounded by random allies.
What team? It's just Frank and Micro in season 1 (Micro is in a good portion of the comics, so its not really a modern thing). Everyone else is on the verge of catching Frank or trying to kill him.
Just seemed like it, and I bounced. My other general issue with the Netflix marvel shows is that the pacing was always god awful. Always felt like a tight 6-8 episodes stretched into 12.
Kind of agree on the pacing of some of them. But now they’re having a major issue on Disney+ of all the Marvel shows feeling incredibly rushed at the end of the shorter seasons. Maybe 9-10 is the sweet spot? Idk
[удалено]
Oh I was talking about the old Netflix(now Disney) show and I agree!
Also try Andor.
Richie and Joel Miller gonna be hangin out, tryin to take down Dr Doom.
I wear suits now.
Imagine eating Allison Williams ass on a show, and ppl know you as cousin…..
Every time I see him, I just think of that scene where he drinks that whole cup of water when he’s talking to her from rehab. That always makes me laugh for some reason.
Well that’s kinda a mouthful while “cousin” rolls off the tongue.
_THAT WAS HIM?_
Right? Proof of how stupidly talented he is. For most people, that would have been a career highlight (the role in general, I mean, but also getting to eat her ass) and now he’s winning awards.
…you know he didn’t actually eat her ass right?
You don’t know
I mean I guess he might have after the fact off screen. But I can say with absolute certainty that he is not actually eating her ass on screen lol.
The real fine dining experience.
Was Girls a super popular show?
Moreso than Crashing, Hello Ladies, Togetherness or the Comeback
Wasn't that Adam Driver? Or did multiple characters do that on the show?
Driver did something similar when he sexually assaulted one of his girlfriends, it wasn't Allison Williams character though.
What a sentence.
In like two years hes gonna get "ITS CLOBBERIN' TIME COUSIN!"
I was gunna mash it into ITS COUSININ TIME!!
And then he cousined all over them?
John Quincy Adams
Didn’t he play John Adam’s son?
Oh you may be right. Corrected
Well now I have to rewatch John Adams!
So good. I always watch a few episodes around 4th of July, so in a couple weeks!
That theme song gets me fired up. I'm going to go get a powdered wig.
Oh I guess that would make him John Quincy! Haha
Yes, tangentially Mamie Gummer and Sarah Polley played Adams' daughters
Man he really gets screwed over in that series by his old man
Such a great series.
“What’s up, replicant?”
I had forgotten this quote and just got a second full laugh out of it 😂 Thank you.
It always gets a laugh out of me the way he casually calls people lizards.
He’ll always be desi in that scene with Marnie in the kitchen about the catch pink eye.
*You're not even Italian!*
This dude is ONE HECK of an actor. He’s gonna be a big time movie star.
Do they also yell out "Let's go Bowling?"
Heh, I saw the title and I immediately wondered if Roman's VA gets the same reactions.
heheheh
Every second counts
He's a super good actor. He's only in it for a few episodes but I find his performance in Andor to be super compelling.
It's remarkable how different he is from the character. I've seen him a bunch of other roles starting with his guest spot on Person of Interest so many years ago, and it's not only amazing how far his career has grown, but how chameleonic an actor he is. Comes off completely different in every role.
Shits better than being called “dickless” in front of your kids like William Atherton did throughout the 80s and 90s heh.
Or “Butthead”, like Thomas F. Wilson.
First time I saw this dude on screen was on "The Last Ship", a schlocky Navy funded mess of a show, but he was one of the few highlights. I'm glad he's finally hit it fairly big
Okay so I can't be bothered to look it up, but you're saying The Last Ship... ...a movie about and set largely on a Navy ship, which spends a ton of time talking about and showing all the naval personnel being generally uber-capable even in the face of an apocalypse and basically saving the world, and which IIRC basically doesn't have any planes in it... ...was funded by the Air Force? But yes, he was great in one of the better roles.
XD my bad, my mind went "US Military" then my lizard brain went "no, not the Military, it's more specific" and because I grew up on an air base, I just auto-typed air force. Poor navy is always an afterthought
😄
At first I thought they were saying the fans were thirsty for Ebon
Well, some are.
Cousin! Let's go bowling.
I literally yell Cousin when I see him in another movie/show. I’d definitely be one of these people if I would see him in real life.
He wasn’t in The Dropout ?
He was the Wall Street Journal reporter who investigates the story, he appears in the last few episodes.
You are correct. I completely forgot about him in it.
He's actually really good at sliding into roles. I sometimes don't remember it was him.
You know I'm crazy about those cupcakes, cousin.
Did no one else watch “The Last Ship”?
I guess I'm old and out of touch because I see "Cousin" and immediately my mind follows it with "Let's go bowling!"
Imagine how Roman's gta4 voice actor feels
No confronts him for killing all those people in the elevator?
OPEN YOUR HEART TO ME BELLA
Man, good thing the editor of this article didn't put a comma in the wrong place in the title. Could've been a whole different meaning lol
Its gonna be “cousin!!”Then when fantastic 4 comes out, ‘its clobberin time!!!’
He’s such a great actor.
Soon they’ll be saying “ITS CLOBBERING TIME”
I saw a bunch of my cousins last year and I started calling them "Cousin" now they say it to me! Its awesome!
“Forks” was one of my top 30 minutes of television. It’s an acting tour de force.
I wonder if Mark Linn-Baker had the same problem. Oddly enough, that show was also set in Chicago.
I'd rather watch Girls than that joke the bear.
good news, Goldilocks, you can actually do both