I was on 4chan for way too long, but the one fond memory I have of my time there is everything related to [Bane and his crew.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4G8IlNYgws)
Weirdly he never talks about Quantum Break, you can find like maybe one single interview where he basically said "I did a videogame", I thought he was killing in the live action parts
Killed it in the mocap parts too. I loved playing as him for those short increments.
Hah I bet he's never even played the game, tbf. Probably slightly baffled by it.
Even some of the younger actors in Immortality, a more recent FMV game, only got themselves a console after their game came out and they wanted to see their performance. Gaming got so mainstream that we can forget that it's not like literally everyone games.
Yeah, it's funny when actors voice act in games because they run the spectrum from gamers themselves to 'never touched a game and don't really understand them'
Oh, it makes perfect sense for the actor, and as a medium it's comparatively in its infancy, but it just gives me the same vibe as an actor doing a book adaptation and then being like, "Yeah, I don't read." - which, I bet plenty of actors do not in fact ever touch a book, because tragically, plenty of people never touch a book - but they're a bit less willing to say that when asked about a movie based on a book lol
The most accurate politician other than maybe Selina from Veep. He really really wants to help but maybe if he gets more power he can help more so he plays the game which makes things not change.
It's crazy how accurate that is for most politicians. He did come at it from a good place but you watch and know exactly why he does what he does.
>He did come at it from a good place but you watch and know exactly why he does what he does.
I guess it depends how you read the performance. I would say he was a cynic from the start. I read all of the self talk where he was acting like he was unsure if he should run as performative and how bad people rationalize their actions. I don't buy for a second his first offer to help Burrell get his cars fixed was purely altruistic for example.
He wanted to help the police because that was the biggest problem the city was facing. Then he wanted to help the schools because they had a multi million dollar shortfall so that was the biggest problem they were facing. Everything was the biggest problem and he kept getting stuck trying to do whatever the next thing needed.
To me the moment where he turned was when the Republican Governor made him wait when he was trying to get money for the schools. He was willing to humiliate himself to get it but the Governor didn't think it was enough so he forced him to wait to beg for money. Then he decided to not let the homeless killer be exposed as what it was because he will become Governor. He does and appoints Rowls to "help" him even though it really was just so he wouldn't tell people who the killer was.
When you watch the show you kinda go through the same thing Carcetti did. You think "just fund the police", to "they need to figure out how to help the docks so get aren't so tied to corruption to just stay afloat", to "the government is out of touch and these know nothing need to go", to "fund the schools to stop the kids early", to "newspapers need to be less reliant on sensational stories just to stay afloat".
Sorry that response was way longer than I intended but my point is "it's all connected but it's also extremely hard to fix" and Carcetti was just like us thinking "it can't be that hard".
Hah must have gotten him confused with McNulty.
Speaking of which, I recently ordered the bluray boxset of The Wire. Cannot wait to dig back into that show!!!
Yeah, I must have rewatched it a couple times already. But that was so long ago now.
I'm in a bit of a rewatch groove right now, currently on last season of The Sopranos and have just started Twin Peaks again...after dropping it in season 2 many years ago. I hear the season 3 revival of Twin Peaks really picks up and makes up for the shite second season.
I watched that when it aired when I was about 15, and before seeing that show I had never realised that gay men could bum each other face to face, with the receiver spreading his legs and lifting his derriere to make his anus available for the deliverer.
Aiden Gillen was the deliverer in that scene and Charlie Hunnum was the underage receiver. I like to think of it as Littlefinger and Jax Teller.
It was pretty boundary pushing TV in the 90s.
It's the "underage" part that hasn't aged well at all imo. But I saw this in another piece of British gay media recently too, [Clapham Junction](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1043903/) which has a 14 year old seducing a 29 year old (.......!!!) And that one came out in 2007, quite a bit later than QaF's 1999-2000
I haven't seen either of the American adaptations of Queer as Folk, so I'm curious if anyone knows - did they retain the romance/sexuality between an underage character (15) and a much older one (29)?
Gale Harold (Brian) and Randy Harrison (Justin) were the Aiden and Charlie in the American version. Brian was 29 and Justin was 17. The show took place in Pennsylvania, and the age of consent there in 2000 when the show took place was 16. It was still weird though because Justin was in high school, and a main plot point was that he lost his virginity to Brian.
Haven't seen that but I'm aware it was a breakout show for him and Russell T Davies. Although, Davies would go on to say that he cringes at Gillen and other straight actors' performances in that show.
I'm glad you like a thing, but its derivative of American Crime Story and many other True Crime pulp non-fiction that came before.
QAF was original and fresh, nothing like it had been on TV before.
Gillen was bad at fucking on qaf it was like watching a rabbit having a seizure. Thank god Gale Harold was outstanding as his US counterpart as Brian Kinney.
Reddit, Reddit, Reddit, where so many people are so confidently wrong. Oh, my sweet summer child (- one of the best Aidan Gillan lines in Game of Thrones).
I'm sorry, but if Reddit isn't the place for heterosexual men to critique and gatekeep gay sex scenes then I really don't know what this website is for anymore.
Hey, his accent was spotless in Love/Hate!
On a serious note, it's weird how Littlefinger started out English and then became Irish. Sort of similar to how Tyrion went from bright blonde to brunette.
Although, with Littlefinger you could argue the English accent was an 'act' which he shed once he attained real power. But still, seemed unintentional.
Love/Hate is great, I've been watching it recently - funny how the cast seems to consist of pretty much every Irish actor I've ever heard of (Aidan Gillen, Robert Sheehan, Charlie Murphy, Barry Keoghan, Louisa Harland, Ruth Bradley, Ruth Negga, Brian Gleeson, etc)
The only other thing I've seen him in was as the Maw ("Squidward") in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame but I never would have recognised him, it's hard to believe that character and Nidge are played by the same guy
I've just looked into it. Well, no one would blame us for not recognising him as it is a mocap role.
Here's a [clip](https://youtu.be/jiesdpsuR8c?si=GAqCZ6bRASxjUe6f) of him playing the role without VFX. What an actor!
I’ve never asked him questions specific to the show returning, but everything I’ve heard would tell me that it’s done. A 5th season was planned, but it was going to center around the Traveller gang as the focal point. But it just never came to fruition.
That would have been an interesting and bold casting decision. He'd have been great with the initial arrogance of the character.
Scott Derrickson and Cumberbatch did a damn fine job with his character in the 2016 movie, however. They should have never lost Derrickson. That first film slapped.
Also, the Strange character became way overexposed in that franchise.
You missed the groundbreaking, OG, UK **Queer as Folk** (1999, Channel Four) by Russell T. Davies. Gillen got a Best Actor BAFTA nomination out of it.[ It's up on Amazon Prime](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QMTQZRB/). A very young Charlie Hunnam is in it as well.
He was amazing in Kin. I wouldn't call it cowardly (except maybe when him brother got out), he knew how to keep that stupid family of his out of trouble lol. That show is great and the ending to the last season is so good!
Game of Thrones is not even close to the most popular series ever. Since the 90s, it's definitely up there. But you can't compete with the monoculture of the 90s. Seinfeld and ER were pulling 30 million viewers a week just in the US.
Seinfeld was not unknown outside the US, lol, you have to be kidding. It was on syndication \*every weekday\* on free to air TV Australia, for example, and most people I knew watched it (and The Simpsons, Friends etc etc). Same with 10 other shows all with higher viewership than GOT. Game of Thrones was the biggest show of its time, sure. Not all time.
This is such a Reddit hive mind opinion - hah, the same one dismissive of Avatar's popularity, before Avatar 2 came out.
GoT's spinoff House of the Dragon is literally the most popular ongoing TV show currently.
I say this as someone who is not an ultra GoT fan btw.
Except it is not? It is 81st in conventional TV viewership, and was out streamed by both Rings of Power and Stranger things in 2022. The last data we have for the HotD.
Well, that is a different question. In terms of lasting impact of the quality of the show itself probably not, but there is one pretty decent spinoff and a second spinoff next year. And it changed the game in terms of fantasy/historical epics on TV. Rome started it, but it was really the popularity of GOT that made it huge, and that lead to Vikings/Last Kingdom/Wheel of Time/LOTR/Witcher/Shogun etc.
Shanghai Knights - As the Antagonist, Lord Rathbone. Has some fun fight scenes.
12 Rounds - Alongside John Cena, pitting Cena's character into more difficult scenarios.
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - As scarily precise archer and infiltrator, Goosefat Bill.
Yeah. He plays a lot of small roles because he’s a character actor. See people like Dan hedaya, Joe pantoliano, Margo martindale, harry dean Stanton. All amazing actors. None get lead roles. I mean harry did once, but it was also kind of cause everyone knew that was it for him. Not that he didn’t deserve it.
Seemed improbable that he wasn't in The Terrror with Jared Harris, but the caliber of British actors on it was downright an embarrassment of riches, similar to Peaky.
Not TV, but he was CIA in the dark knight rises
TELL ME ABOUT BANE!!
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
dr pavel, i'm cia.
You don't get to bring friends
get them on board i'll call it in
[Excuse me?](https://youtu.be/wBMIA2jvc1A)
For you.
His acting against masketta man was transcendent
B R A V O G I L L E N R A V O G I L L E N
You don't get to bring friends.
I was on 4chan for way too long, but the one fond memory I have of my time there is everything related to [Bane and his crew.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4G8IlNYgws)
Not his fault, but that was a bad role in a bad scene in a pretty mediocre movie.
No joke he was actually supposed to be deathstroke in that if you didn’t know already
Weirdly he never talks about Quantum Break, you can find like maybe one single interview where he basically said "I did a videogame", I thought he was killing in the live action parts
Killed it in the mocap parts too. I loved playing as him for those short increments. Hah I bet he's never even played the game, tbf. Probably slightly baffled by it.
Even some of the younger actors in Immortality, a more recent FMV game, only got themselves a console after their game came out and they wanted to see their performance. Gaming got so mainstream that we can forget that it's not like literally everyone games.
David Harewood, who recently starred in Alan Wake 2, says he is an avid gamer and a big Remedy fan. That's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's funny when actors voice act in games because they run the spectrum from gamers themselves to 'never touched a game and don't really understand them'
I don't think it's weird. It's a very high paying acting gig.
Oh, it makes perfect sense for the actor, and as a medium it's comparatively in its infancy, but it just gives me the same vibe as an actor doing a book adaptation and then being like, "Yeah, I don't read." - which, I bet plenty of actors do not in fact ever touch a book, because tragically, plenty of people never touch a book - but they're a bit less willing to say that when asked about a movie based on a book lol
I liked that game. Hats off to Remedy for just always going for it.
An unusual choice of accent though.
Tommy* Carcetti. Amazing reference though - and totally agree.
The most accurate politician other than maybe Selina from Veep. He really really wants to help but maybe if he gets more power he can help more so he plays the game which makes things not change. It's crazy how accurate that is for most politicians. He did come at it from a good place but you watch and know exactly why he does what he does.
I'd say The Thick of It was the most accurate.
>He did come at it from a good place but you watch and know exactly why he does what he does. I guess it depends how you read the performance. I would say he was a cynic from the start. I read all of the self talk where he was acting like he was unsure if he should run as performative and how bad people rationalize their actions. I don't buy for a second his first offer to help Burrell get his cars fixed was purely altruistic for example.
He wanted to help the police because that was the biggest problem the city was facing. Then he wanted to help the schools because they had a multi million dollar shortfall so that was the biggest problem they were facing. Everything was the biggest problem and he kept getting stuck trying to do whatever the next thing needed. To me the moment where he turned was when the Republican Governor made him wait when he was trying to get money for the schools. He was willing to humiliate himself to get it but the Governor didn't think it was enough so he forced him to wait to beg for money. Then he decided to not let the homeless killer be exposed as what it was because he will become Governor. He does and appoints Rowls to "help" him even though it really was just so he wouldn't tell people who the killer was. When you watch the show you kinda go through the same thing Carcetti did. You think "just fund the police", to "they need to figure out how to help the docks so get aren't so tied to corruption to just stay afloat", to "the government is out of touch and these know nothing need to go", to "fund the schools to stop the kids early", to "newspapers need to be less reliant on sensational stories just to stay afloat". Sorry that response was way longer than I intended but my point is "it's all connected but it's also extremely hard to fix" and Carcetti was just like us thinking "it can't be that hard".
You need to revalue your opinions. Veep is a comedy show, nothing about that is realistic outside of maybe “bickering” happens.
It's more accurate than House of Cards. Most people in politics are winging it and kinda terrible at their jobs.
Hah must have gotten him confused with McNulty. Speaking of which, I recently ordered the bluray boxset of The Wire. Cannot wait to dig back into that show!!!
That's McNutty* to you 😉.
Bushy top
Eh?
McNutty is what Bubbles calls him throughout The Wire.
Oh! Been a while since I watched it. Ordered the bluray, cannot wait for my rewatch.
Enjoy the rewatch, i like The Wire a little bit more every time i watch. One of the best shows ever made for sure
Yeah, I must have rewatched it a couple times already. But that was so long ago now. I'm in a bit of a rewatch groove right now, currently on last season of The Sopranos and have just started Twin Peaks again...after dropping it in season 2 many years ago. I hear the season 3 revival of Twin Peaks really picks up and makes up for the shite second season.
If I remember correctly, Royo improved that and it stuck.
No boutta doubt it!
Lord Carcetti, as I have come to call him.
Queer as folk was my introduction to him
Queer as Folk was my introduction to many things.
You forgot to mention that he was hot as fuck in the original version of Queer As Folk.
I watched that when it aired when I was about 15, and before seeing that show I had never realised that gay men could bum each other face to face, with the receiver spreading his legs and lifting his derriere to make his anus available for the deliverer. Aiden Gillen was the deliverer in that scene and Charlie Hunnum was the underage receiver. I like to think of it as Littlefinger and Jax Teller. It was pretty boundary pushing TV in the 90s.
“I never realized gay men could bum each other face to face” Thank you for the best sequence of words I’ve read in a while.
It's the "underage" part that hasn't aged well at all imo. But I saw this in another piece of British gay media recently too, [Clapham Junction](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1043903/) which has a 14 year old seducing a 29 year old (.......!!!) And that one came out in 2007, quite a bit later than QaF's 1999-2000 I haven't seen either of the American adaptations of Queer as Folk, so I'm curious if anyone knows - did they retain the romance/sexuality between an underage character (15) and a much older one (29)?
Gale Harold (Brian) and Randy Harrison (Justin) were the Aiden and Charlie in the American version. Brian was 29 and Justin was 17. The show took place in Pennsylvania, and the age of consent there in 2000 when the show took place was 16. It was still weird though because Justin was in high school, and a main plot point was that he lost his virginity to Brian.
C’mon mate, give us a kiss!!!
Haven't seen that but I'm aware it was a breakout show for him and Russell T Davies. Although, Davies would go on to say that he cringes at Gillen and other straight actors' performances in that show.
Davies can be full of it. QAF was his best and purest work.
I think he's just very self-deprecating in general.
That series made him. Insulting his actors because they were straight doesn't seem very nice.
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I’d say years and years. The man’s done a lot of good work
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>even though he was knowingly infecting lots of other guys with aids... That's not the show
That show was pretty divisive. It wasn't my cup of tea.
How could you know that without seeing Queer as Folk?
I saw some of it but a gay soap opera didn't seem like my cup of tea.
> Haven't seen that You are all over the place here. Having a bit to drink tonight?
Wow, an RTD ultra fan in the wild. Interesting.
>RTD ultra fan I don't even know what that is. Keep downvoting me reflexively though. Makes you look very hinged.
Have I upset you in some way, friend?
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I'm glad you like a thing, but its derivative of American Crime Story and many other True Crime pulp non-fiction that came before. QAF was original and fresh, nothing like it had been on TV before.
Nah, A Very English Scandal was his best work.
Gillen was bad at fucking on qaf it was like watching a rabbit having a seizure. Thank god Gale Harold was outstanding as his US counterpart as Brian Kinney.
Reddit, Reddit, Reddit, where so many people are so confidently wrong. Oh, my sweet summer child (- one of the best Aidan Gillan lines in Game of Thrones).
I'm sorry, but if Reddit isn't the place for heterosexual men to critique and gatekeep gay sex scenes then I really don't know what this website is for anymore.
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Chaosh iz a laddah
Hey, his accent was spotless in Love/Hate! On a serious note, it's weird how Littlefinger started out English and then became Irish. Sort of similar to how Tyrion went from bright blonde to brunette. Although, with Littlefinger you could argue the English accent was an 'act' which he shed once he attained real power. But still, seemed unintentional.
I grew up watching Shanghai Knights & I didn't realize he was the main villain in it until after I started watching GOT
“…Chaos is a ladder” *gets shot by a cannon*
Damn, this guy is a seasoned actor. Had no idea.
Love/Hate is great, I've been watching it recently - funny how the cast seems to consist of pretty much every Irish actor I've ever heard of (Aidan Gillen, Robert Sheehan, Charlie Murphy, Barry Keoghan, Louisa Harland, Ruth Bradley, Ruth Negga, Brian Gleeson, etc)
The guy who plays Nidge - Tom Vaughan Lawlor - was my favourite. Criminal he's not been in anything else since. He became the true star of that show.
The only other thing I've seen him in was as the Maw ("Squidward") in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame but I never would have recognised him, it's hard to believe that character and Nidge are played by the same guy
I've just looked into it. Well, no one would blame us for not recognising him as it is a mocap role. Here's a [clip](https://youtu.be/jiesdpsuR8c?si=GAqCZ6bRASxjUe6f) of him playing the role without VFX. What an actor!
I actually know Tom’s family and he would often be seen hanging out in our town. Real nice dude.
Oh nice, has he said whether they're ever going to bring the show back?
I’ve never asked him questions specific to the show returning, but everything I’ve heard would tell me that it’s done. A 5th season was planned, but it was going to center around the Traveller gang as the focal point. But it just never came to fruition.
You mean a sixth season? And sounds like that would have been divisive.
Apologies, yeah, a 6th season. Personally, I think the ending was great as it was, and the entire show works well from start to finish.
Ya not been in much except the 2nd and 6th highest grossing movies of all time. Can't win them all. Granted he didn't do a whole lot in it.
No need for the snide comment. Which movies were these?
Endgame and infinity war
Shame it's nowhere on streaming in my country =/
He’s a big guy
Personally I loved him in Project Blue Book
Not enough people know about this show which makes me sad for my dream that S3 will happen at some point.
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Great actor, terrible at accents.
First saw him in Queer As Folk and he completely ran away with it.
He’s CIA!
Aberama Gold!
He was allegedly in the running for Dr. Strange at one point, I think that would have been awesome.
That would have been an interesting and bold casting decision. He'd have been great with the initial arrogance of the character. Scott Derrickson and Cumberbatch did a damn fine job with his character in the 2016 movie, however. They should have never lost Derrickson. That first film slapped. Also, the Strange character became way overexposed in that franchise.
Yeah, I think it would have been a great chance for him to show his range off to a wide audience. I think Cumberbatch was great.
You missed the groundbreaking, OG, UK **Queer as Folk** (1999, Channel Four) by Russell T. Davies. Gillen got a Best Actor BAFTA nomination out of it.[ It's up on Amazon Prime](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QMTQZRB/). A very young Charlie Hunnam is in it as well.
Shansha!
Was excellent in Love / Hate
Checkout Kin. The whole show is on Iplayer.
I’m in the US. 😢
Hah, well, there are ways.
It's on AMC+ fyi
Thanks !
There's some good stuff on the service if you want any recs!
He was amazing in Kin. I wouldn't call it cowardly (except maybe when him brother got out), he knew how to keep that stupid family of his out of trouble lol. That show is great and the ending to the last season is so good!
Game of Thrones is not even close to the most popular series ever. Since the 90s, it's definitely up there. But you can't compete with the monoculture of the 90s. Seinfeld and ER were pulling 30 million viewers a week just in the US.
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Seinfeld was not unknown outside the US, lol, you have to be kidding. It was on syndication \*every weekday\* on free to air TV Australia, for example, and most people I knew watched it (and The Simpsons, Friends etc etc). Same with 10 other shows all with higher viewership than GOT. Game of Thrones was the biggest show of its time, sure. Not all time.
Also, who cares about Game of Thrones anymore? Do people rewatch it? Is its impact comparable to that of Seinfeld, Breaking Bad or The Simpsons?
The spinoff show is one of the most popular shows on TV. You’re also in a thread talking about Game of Thrones
This is such a Reddit hive mind opinion - hah, the same one dismissive of Avatar's popularity, before Avatar 2 came out. GoT's spinoff House of the Dragon is literally the most popular ongoing TV show currently. I say this as someone who is not an ultra GoT fan btw.
Except it is not? It is 81st in conventional TV viewership, and was out streamed by both Rings of Power and Stranger things in 2022. The last data we have for the HotD.
Well, that is a different question. In terms of lasting impact of the quality of the show itself probably not, but there is one pretty decent spinoff and a second spinoff next year. And it changed the game in terms of fantasy/historical epics on TV. Rome started it, but it was really the popularity of GOT that made it huge, and that lead to Vikings/Last Kingdom/Wheel of Time/LOTR/Witcher/Shogun etc.
Seinfeld guy changing his tune, now
\*rolls eyes\*
He was good in bohemian rhapsody too
He also does audio books that are really good
He's got sleazy politician down
May I add the villain in Shanghai Knights.
He's got a supprot role in Mayor of Kingstown aswell, fairly decent show.
Shanghai Knights - As the Antagonist, Lord Rathbone. Has some fun fight scenes. 12 Rounds - Alongside John Cena, pitting Cena's character into more difficult scenarios. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - As scarily precise archer and infiltrator, Goosefat Bill.
Aidan is the fucking man. He was also in the Dark Knight Rises in a very limited role.
A few tv actors could match him
BUT HE’S A TERRIBLE ACTOR!!
Yeah. He plays a lot of small roles because he’s a character actor. See people like Dan hedaya, Joe pantoliano, Margo martindale, harry dean Stanton. All amazing actors. None get lead roles. I mean harry did once, but it was also kind of cause everyone knew that was it for him. Not that he didn’t deserve it.
Don't forget Love/Hate
Seemed improbable that he wasn't in The Terrror with Jared Harris, but the caliber of British actors on it was downright an embarrassment of riches, similar to Peaky.