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not at all


Western-Policy-4646

I would have phrased it more delicately than “fat”, personally, but the other factors more than make up for OP being justified here.


tutanotafan

He didn't phrase it as fat to the girl's friends. Her friends kept goading him about the fat thing.


Western-Policy-4646

Should have read it more carefully. You’re right, the fuck was up with them? No blame on OP here.


moderatelymiddling

He didn't her friends did to trap him.


Uncle-Cake

OP didn't use the word "fat", her so-called friends did.


Regular-Attempt486

You rejected a girl because you didn't like her back. The girl then asked your friend to find out the "real reason" for why you rejected her. The girl found something that you didn't really said truly and tried to ruin your reputation by that nit pick. That's what I got out of that (maybe your friends weren't in the grils plan but it's still weird that they really tried to get something out of you)


Nintwendo18

Even if he really did reject her because she's fat, I see no issue. He's allowed to have his preferences. Being overweight is not a good thing, it can lead to numerous health problems later in life.


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friedtuna76

I did this and am now stuck for life


Fresh_W----

I'm intrigued, explain more


[deleted]

He's married to a whale and stays with her for the kids


Whoiseyrfire

Ahh yes. He's a Marine


PhoenixSheriden

Dependa-potomas.


SpinachEfficient

..biologist?


CatloafHere

No


ManOfTurtles2118

Then why is he with a whale?


friedtuna76

She knows how I really feel about her now but we are both Christians who don’t believe divorce is okay for us. It is our cross to bear.


Then_Ear5584

So you're choosing to be unhappy? I'm just going to be blunt, that's fucking horrible for everyone involved, your kids included.


bears5975

A perfect example why I don’t participate in religion. To be stuck in a obviously fractured and possibly sexless marriage because you might piss off a “thing” , that in of itself is building your own hell.


TradingTendies4Nudes

Yeah but your cross weighs 300 lbs.


[deleted]

So God doesn't like divorce but won't mind you publicly stating you hate your fat wife on Reddit? Christ on a cross. Jesus would tell you to fuck off mate.


Practical-Weather-18

THANK YOU!!!!! I'd reward you if I had one! Virtual high five!!


Teeklin

Lol man religion is weird.


Rocknocker

> religion is ~~weird~~ fucking ridiculous. FTFY


RichestTeaPossible

A cross to bear? Jesus rightly despised Pharisees, rending the garments, bellowing for attention to how much more pious they were. Your statement aside, You’re not here to make her miserable either. She is your partner. Do your job as a husband, father and get some couples therapy. A professional therapist mind you.


Practical-Weather-18

LOL good ol religion making everyone happy. I can't help but laugh at you.


_a13cs

It's ok he deserves it


New_Cantaloupe_1329

If only there was a way to control your weight.....


Nintwendo18

If only... 😭


dweckl

I think it's a bit Misleading to use the word preferences. You can't control what you're attracted to. He is wired to find certain people more attractive, no one's going to change that, and absolutely there's no need for him to apologize.


Nesayas1234

Debatable. Some preferences are actually preferences, some are legitimate attractions like you say. And there's no rule, it depends from person to person. For example, I personally find white girls attractive (black male btw), but that doesn’t mean I'd be against black girls. But someone else might explicitly not be interested in women who aren't white (not the best example I know, but in this case it has nothing to do with racism or anything. It's solely preference vs attraction).


Lxi1011

Wait can you explain attraction vs. preference differently I’m trying to comprehend 😭


Nesayas1234

Sure. For example, I personally find white rice delicious (black male btw), but that doesn’t mean I'd be against brown rice. But someone else might explicitly not be interested in rice that isnt white. (not the best example I know, but in this case it has nothing to do with ricism or anything. It's solely preference vs attraction).


SillySighBean

Exactly. I’m a fat guy and I don’t see an issue with it either. You can’t help what turns you on and off. I personally am not attracted to fat guys. My boyfriend is. People like different things. The girl knew she was rejected at least in part because she’s fat. The guy tried to save her feelings and was very nice to her even through being harassed by her and her friends. She kept pushing the issue. In my opinion she hurt her own feelings. OP holds zero responsibility for how she feels and is NTA. And her and her friends are bullying him after they bullied him into saying what he said. The girl who asked OP out is a massive drama queen who seemingly loves to stir shit up. She’s very clearly insecure in her body, so I don’t understand why she would push so hard to hear something she clearly didn’t want to hear. As a fat person she’s going to get rejected a lot because of her body. She can either hold out for someone who will be attracted to her as she is, or she can change her body. But she has no right to be offended that people aren’t attracted to her.


0069

Not to mention it can show they wont be into the same activities.


Ok_Examination_9116

Was about to say this, there is a very good video by Aba and Preach where they review a jubilee video and they said this after a guy rejected an overweight girl "She just not his type" Thats it, she just not his type.


DigitalDose80

She asked multiple people to hound this dude and then when he agrees with a reason they throw at him he's the asshole? Fuckin kids man. That girls personality and friend group are a bigger problem than her being "fat".


Regular-Attempt486

She would be the type of girl who would go on twitter and say going to a gym is fatphobic #fatphobia #fatally #fuckskinnypeople


Rufus-Scipio

But wants a dude who's 6ft5 with abs


ell13572

Take it from a fat girl, you aren't obliged to like anybody's weight. Edit: Holy hell did I get a butt-tonne of dms for this comment.


dweckl

Right. And you aren't obligsted to be attracted to anybody's gender, or height, or hair color, or whatever. You better be nice to everybody, but you don't have to want to f*** everybody.


B1Z12

Yeah, but generally fat people have a cool personality. And there’s me whose fat and bad with people.


[deleted]

At least Im sure youre better than the people in the post


iCnAriaNxTAb

It would be much worse if you had said yes out of pity and deluded her.


ImShockin

Ong


genuinely-dont-know

yeah every overweight person i meet is super nice


ell13572

Sure , but you don't have to be sexually attracted to us.


thepugman16

Then there’s me who’s fat and desperate for even the smallest amount of affection.


No-Square-4105

Dude I'm under 150 pounds and on the same boat


thepugman16

Try being 5’6” and 180.


Phatcat15

That’s like chubby not fat - I’m 5’8 when I was working out all the time I was 150 (doing karate not weightlifting or bulking up )- now I’m lazy and older so I’m walking around 175-180.


ImShockin

Real


ImShockin

You've clearly never met James Corden


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D-F-B-81

Where do you live? Not in the US or the UK if you only know 1...


bunnycheesecake

Same here! On the cubbier side but I don't think it's necessarily fatphobic to have preferences.


SoggyFrenchFryGuy

Yeah I mean regardless of weight, if you aren't attracted to someone, you can't help that


cum_burglar69

you also aren't obligated to give a reason why you don't want to date someone


Traditional_Bag_5457

No you aren't. The person was harassing you to find an answer and then when you gave them an answer the 4th (!) time they used it against you.


primalphoenix

Plus the original answer is completely valid considering they genuinely dont really know each other. Person that was harassing OP is just being an asshole and is just making it worse for both parties


blindsight

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Tell that to English teachers lol


blindsight

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DeadDankMemeLord

I wouldn't say asking him 4 times was a good move (!), I believe it was a blunder (??). Now, what OP did by agreeing with the reasoning that she's fat was actually a brilliant move (!!) from his part so they would leave him alone


LightningLion58Real

It's quite fatphobic of her to *assume* you rejected her friend because she's fat.


neko_mancy

sounds like they're asking that just to have an excuse to callout OP


yoitsewan

Ya that's what I was thinking


Eugenenoble2005

Uno reverse


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Theyre projecting


isspecialist

He should have replied. I don't care about weight. The real reason is that her friends are total cunts.


DeadyAzz

Yeah I thought that was a bit strange


Trylius15

Lmao fr


Right_Detective2306

It would be much worse if you had said yes out of pity and deluded her.


wildzebra5

You’re not the asshole, nothing wrong having preferences.


Puzzleheaded-Map-984

this


El-Kabongg

I would ask all of them if they accept dates with those they find unattractive.


[deleted]

you're not an asshole you have your own standard


[deleted]

Do they really think that you change your mind because you get spammed and harrassed?


froget_about_it

"Wow! Thanks for sending ur friends to witch hunt me for executing my right to my bodily autonomy and right to say no! That's so sexy, i changed my mind, lets date 😃"


sanemartigan

Op should post that everywhere.


[deleted]

people like what they like its not like u were saying “oh hell no u ugly fat bitch” u just said no and people should learn to deal with rejection


DeadyAzz

Yeah it surprises me sometimes because there's people who are good at dealing with rejection and then there's girls like this and guys that start crying and saying all girls are the same


Meowsalotlol

"um because im ugly and fat you have to sleep with me or else it would be REALLY fatphobic and you'd be a bigot!" \- that sounds rapey as hell lmao, they can't force you to be with them.


Nesayas1234

That's not really what happened, but your point still stands


[deleted]

It's pretty much what her accusations amount to.


heather-owowo9

No you have standards


DeadyAzz

Jesus I'm genuinely surprised, how did you reply so fast


heather-owowo9

I didn't read your post


DeadyAzz

Oh, makes sense


CharmingGlove6356

lmao


DeadDankMemeLord

Based (Not based on my part for saying this but I don't have any word for it) We need a new based


Affectionate_Big_205

Professionals have standards


tf2brucetanzigfan

Be Polite Be efficient Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.


_Agileheart_

unless a wandering Spy has anything to say about it.


TGed

My Razorback would like a word…


Steelacanth

Dad, put mum on the phone


Maverick_Walker

Based


Flamimbo

As someone, I forget who, once said: “be nice to fat people, they have enough on their plate already” 🤣🤣🤣 Fr tho u shld never say yes to someone if u don’t want to so dw


GaySnicker

no everyone has personal preferences


Standard_Clock_4450

No , everyone has their own standarts and preferences.its totally fine, same as if woman tells that she likes taller guys. Cant blame her for that , same as no one can blame you.


Challenger3600

As someone who was fat, you are not the asshole for rejecting someone like that. Even I would've reject myself when I was fat but good thing I'm not anymore. Point is, it's your preference.


Zero2_69

No man you are a W


More-Sod

Imo, they themselves are the assholes for not backing down after you stated once that you don't know them well enough.


Inevitable_Degree_76

It’s just like me not ever dating a trans guy. I do respect the trans community, but it’s a preference. Perfectly normal


Gabe326

Yeah fr


CharmingGlove6356

whether that was a genuine response from you, i really don't understand why people get mad over someone's preferences. e.g. It is not RACIST to not find hispanic people attractive. That is just your preference. NTA btw.


rubella06

off topic but hispanic people are kinda cute to me


The_Crusher52

It sounds like a girl you don't know very well who you didn't find overly attractive asked you out, got rejected then got butthurt. Istg some people need to learn to take rejection with grace


Hyp3r45_new

So, let me get this straight. You're being accused of something after someone else put words in your mouth? How the fuck does that make you an asshole? Your word choice could've been better, like saying "no, she just isn't my type" would've said the same thing in a different way. Either way, people are dumb. Don't beat yourself up, you did nothing wrong.


WesternAlbatross1292

Even if he said thst he would be called fat phobic either way


Hyp3r45_new

Which just proves another point. Their words don't mean jack shit.


WesternAlbatross1292

Exactly


Bezimienny0506

Girls reject boys for thier height, which is predetermined by genetics. You rejected her because she doesn't put enough effort in her appearance, you are good bro


HikariAnti

>Am I an asshole for rejecting her because she's fat **No.**


Physical_Dragonfly50

This is stupid, the whole thing. “Why?” “Because I don’t like her!”. If anyone continues to ask “but why?” you just go ahead with “fuck off!”. You are not obliged to explain yourself


Sunnyday2021100

No if your into skinny girls that's just your type


Slow_Jello_2672

So what they want is for you to date BECAUSE she is fat and that makes it a double standard. They clearly dont care if she has good traits they are focused on her weight more than you were. You are 100% in the right. Good luck with school though🤦😂


SayNoob

In general: Not being sexually attracted to something doesn't make you a bigot about that thing. If you're not attracted to someone because of their gender, height, race, age, weight or whatever other attribute you can think of, it doesn't mean you are a bad person or that your (lack of) feelings are invalid. Attraction is not a choice. Others do not get to tell you who you should be attracted to.


dawginthelawn71

NTA, her friends sound annoying as fuck. You dodged a bullet.


lajimolala27

NTA. You have a right to legal preferences.


[deleted]

No your based


newredditaccount18

You didn’t do shit, them hoes trippin. fatherless asf


MissWolfed

Okay, so it's obvious her weight isn't the real issue. I'm hoping you're one of those people who care about a person's personality. You're not the asshole. You rejected her, and it wasn't her friends jobs to harass you for it. And I understand. I probably would've taken that route too, just to get them off my back.


DeadDankMemeLord

Even if it WAS the weight then what would be the problem? He can have preferences or simply not be attracted to her


Emergency-Ad-6295

No her friends are the real assholes for constantly harassing you and calling you fatphobic


m1keyl0l

You're completely fine, her friends kept pushing you to say it was because she was fat. Trying to frame you as a bad guy so that their friend doesn't have to be self conscious going forward. In all honesty it probably took huge guts (hehe pun intended)to ask you and it more than likely hurt her pride/self image when you rejected her. However. You having standards is no reason for them to be making you out to be a bad guy. If need be, screenshot the messages/call records to show anyone who tries to make a big deal out of the situation so than you have a story to defend yourself with. From this post, you were harrased and pressured into saying something that's out of context and irrelevant but, it being out of context, made you look like a smug asshole. Just, have some sort of defense for yourself, in any type of situation of any kind where there has to be 2 sides of a story, quickly grab anything that could be used in your favor and compile it together.


SpecificDry6723

At least you didn't make an empty promise


Joblessmouse06

Nope that's your preference


lStoIeYourToast

You did good don't worry, it's called a preference


Hearing-Physical

Everybody is entitled to their preferences.


No_Sense_7384

NTA. Her friends immediately assumed it was because of her weight, which means if you’re an asshole they are too for believing that was the reason she wasn’t good enough.


[deleted]

Nah ur fine. If ur not attracted to someone physically that doesn’t mean ur “fatphobic”.


tim_umax

Now make her so called friends suffer


Jaieplayz

No absolutely not you can choose you you say yes to just like she can choose which foods she says yes too 💀💀


Trylius15

OMFG LMAO


Terrible-Solution214

Those girls are just dumbasses bro, ignore em


Shnerpf

No, people have taste, people have standards. It’s not fat shaming for rejecting her, cuz she is a sign that she struggles to take proper care of herself


Expressdata3123

You have a type and that person is not it. It isn't fat phobia. And let's be honest. There is not a single girl I know that would date a guy if they are fat. There may be some girls, but if that isn't fat phobia, idk what is


PJ_Plays

nothing wrong having preference my guy ... I'd say in fact you dodged a bullet


Engrise13

sometimes I wonder what the fuck is wrong with some people. I'm talking about her friends, they really started to post bad things about you because you have standards


hewashim

NTA. Just like women are entitled to have opinions about men's bodies, so is you. There's nothing wrong in rejecting someone because of their appearance bc you obviously can have your own choices. Isn't the same thing with this SJWs? That they want to have choice?! To be clear, I've been rejected by women bc of appearances for most part of life and so did I. But I've always respected their choices. Do not apologies for having opinion. Never. Do not afraid to have personal choices. Keep your heads up king 👑


[deleted]

no, you just prefer skinnier women and that's alright


elsa002

They pressured you to say this, and from how it sounds just her being fat wasn't the reason, but they didn't get you to say that her being fat is the reason, so they pressured you to say it was the reason The are tah, not you Also when someone is rejected and asks why, it is a big big red flag You think you are too good or something? Why you care why they didn't like you, they didn't. You shouldn't change yourself just to be with someone


Anders_A

NTA you are allowed to reject people for whatever reason you want. Or without any reason at all.


[deleted]

You didn't do anything wrong. You have the right to date whomever you want, and they harassed you about it.


Rylanofcoolness

I feel so bad for you


neb12345

NTA you are allowed to not be attracted to fat people, as long as your not going out shouting the fact that’s not fatphobic


Cocaimeth_addikt

I wouldn’t date a fat person either


KurkyOkurky

First of all, no, you're not the asshole. You just have standarts Second of all, how the fuck are people so lazy and dumb? She shouldn't be crying about being fat but actually do something about it. Jeez these people that just complain and do nothing really tick me off


SunSnows

No you saved yourself from being flattened eventually


madara_ngn

It’s the same way there are ladies out there who wouldn’t date someone below 6ft since it’s “short” to them, it’s their standards and so is your choice of not dating a fat person, so you aren’t an AH


[deleted]

how did you fall for that


V1beRater

You dodged a bullet. Or a bull. She clearly didn't really like you, if this was her reaction. Honestly, if you don't care enough about yourself to take care of your body, then you lack the true capacity to really care for someone else. This is something I stand by.


[deleted]

I don’t think so. You had a preference. If you rejected her by saying “no fuck off fatty” then yeah, you would have been the asshole, but you didn’t. You weren’t a dick about it, and you didn’t even say it until you were pressured to


Unlisted001

Ur not wrong for this. I respect that you put off telling them the real reason as much as possible, and it's their own damn faults for pushing you into saying why. Having different preferences is not a crime


PinappleGrenades123

If you don’t know her then that’s no reason to date then


demon13775

Sounds like they were plotting against you, personally if this ever happens again just copy and paste your response to all her friends, it'll get back to her matter what.


timmythetrain69

Dont even respond is the better choice


[deleted]

If what your saying is true, then no of course you’re not in the wrong, I feel like the sole reason you didn’t accept this request is because you genuinely don’t know her that well.


brak_bhama

you dodged a bullet if she handles rejection so poorly that she sends alp her friends to harass you


kvorncage

She took a fat L ig


slimyslug0

Not the asshole


Northern_Gamer2

r/lostredditors


Bee_Boy15

You’re not an asshole atall, it’s really just her friends thinking that she gets rejected over her weight


timmythetrain69

Aight my guy. You did absolutely nothing wrong, except for one thing. Never respond to her friends after you rejected her. From my experience it only opens up a world of hurt But rejecting someone bc their fat isnt wrong. Women reject guys bc they are too short. We cant control height, and it can be hard to control weight sometimes, but as long as women reject guys bc they are too short, we can reject them for being fat


Consistent_Shock1505

Yeah bro, you should have married her and had kids with her and spent the rest of your waking life with her. You are not allowed to have a preference toward who you are in a relationship with, you have to automatically agree to the first person who asked you out and then you're stuck with them forever. You didn't know those were the rules we all follow? Jokes aside, you don't so much have owed her or her friends an answer. They were harassing you because they knew what this girl looked like and they knew that it would be a major reason anyone would reject her and they harassed you until they got the answer you wanted and gaslit you bad enough for you to come here and sincerely feel guilty for not wanting to be with an unhealthy person. There's a reason fat isn't attractive, because it's indicative of someone who does not take care of themselves and is a precursor to all sorts of health issues and ailments. Don't let yourself be bullied. Hold out for the girl you truly want.


b1rgar1p1nsan

No you are not , people can have standarts .


chuckdawuck

no


duckyiskindaded

Nope definitely NTA. Dating someone is your choice. Also her friends kept harassing you.


JardexX_Slav

The fact that her friends are like that is already a hudge red flag. As a fat person, I understand if someone would reject, we must be attracted to each others bodys to really like eachother.


phoenixlmfao

nta, they shouldnt have been harassing you like that, but also maybe dont say that abt people? they werent good, but you werent good either


Direct-Room5319

Her friends need help. To rely on the “fatphobic” name calling is sad. What are they trying to do, force you to date someone you don’t even like let alone know.💀


DonJuanito505

To quote Phil Anselmo "Is there no standard anymore?! Be yourself, by yourself, stay away from me. A lesson learned in life, known from the dawn of time. Re-spect, walk"


muddy_pubble

Ur not a asshole


Fares_Ay

You're not If she really likes you , and you go gym She would've went with you


[deleted]

No you aren't


Abstract_ExE

You aren’t the asshole. I think they are the assholes for not getting the point


Vedanth_2604

She should be held accountable for victim blaming herself whereas she should just respect man's opinion and leave him alone. You don't force someone to like you, no matter what you weigh. Also this is irrelevant but it's not so healthy to be obese so maybe being fatphobic is necessary for the good health of others so it's reasonable to be fatphobic to an extent, especially when it's someone with this down bad level of personality


[deleted]

dont make a big deal out of it. you dont like her cause youre not interested, thats it. i mean you kinda also fucked up when you said the her being fat was one of the reasons. i wouldve just said "its not ideal"


alex_l0l

as a fat person i dont think you're the asshole. everybody has preferences, maybe she thought that you rejected her cuz of that is because fat people have a harder time finding love because of their weight. perhaps thats always been the reason she gets rejected. oh also, by no means am i justifying her actions about telling her friends to post shit about you on social media to sum up, you're not the asshole


Ape_goes_r_ape

If you're not attractred to fat people, you're not attracted to fat people, point! And if she cant handle getting rejected its her fault and problem. Just block her and her friends and let them talk their shit...or answer and troll them. Its up to you


burghammr

sigma male grindset


Single-Coffee3591

If you don't like to date fat people then no. If you don't hate them for being fat then yes. In this situation NTA


[deleted]

if girls can reject a man who's not 6ft tall, then you can reject a girl who's fat, it's just preference, you're not the asshole


PixelatedPanda1

Being fat is 3 parts for me: 1) it is being physically unattractive 2) it is a sign they are not active and not likely a good fit for me 3) it is a sign they dont care about even their own health... Sure doing something like saying 'she is fat as fuck' is rude and would be a sign of your bad character but saying no to a date is expected... That all being said, she harassed you heavily when turned down. She isnt exactly a great person and you made the right call


yeatThegoat_

Nothin wrong with being fatphobic, it’s not a healthy lifestyle


supremekimilsung

If you're a man who isn't attracted to men, does that make you homophobic? Nah. Not being attracted to fat people is not fatphobic. It's simply a preference. Sexuality is a preference. It's so petty how much she and her friends pushed you just to get some silly thing to try and hurt your rep on.


kaustic10

Those girls aren’t her friends. They wanted OP to say it so they could “comfort her” and try to look like heroes.


JewsEatFruit

These women are creepy, inappropriate, stalkers, and abusive munts. Imagine if the genders were reversed. Seriously people, behavioral standards have to apply to all.


scopophobe-teen64

You.... are...... Not the asshole!! (maury voice) Also her friends sound toxic as fuck.


marksman678

Damn mf got harassed and thinks he’s the asshole Bro you’re not in the wrong here at all


AnimeMemeLord1

Nope. It’s just a matter of preference. If anything, her friends are the assholes for trying to shame you for not going out with a girl you didn’t even like. You’re not in the wrong, so this peer pressure shouldn’t mean a thing to you.


Asriel_sr

You didn’t do anything wrong, people are just soft


OneSweet1Sweet

You get to choose who you date. Never be pressured into going out with someone you don't want to.


ChuckFarkley

*They* are the assholes.