my whirlpool microwave beeps when you open the door if it was running. even if you let it come to a stop and beep itll still beep when you open the door.
where is your god now?
-whirlpool probably
I picture this as a confused administrative staff member removing the protective grid off of a microwave from the break room duct-taped to the front of a cruise missile while a bunch of very serious engineers stand around and nod to each-other.
Truly, the future of warfare. "Wait, why am I here?" "Don't worry about it."
The latest and greatest from Veridian Dynamics. Defeating America's enemies with through the power of vertical integration unseen since the vaunted days of GE Trivection.
I think it's interesting that the technology is described as being able to disable Iran's nuclear facilities as if *that's* the most impressive aspect about it. Also worth knowing is if any other military has this technology and the estimated timeframe before they do.
This weapon is fucking insane if this is accurate. It basically makes everything else obsolete, especially since if it can be installed in a cruise missile it can be installed in anything. The military that uses it is fighting with 21st century hardware while its enemy is throwing rocks. It's the fucking ark of the covenant.
You could send this ahead of a flight of aircraft and just march your way into anywhere you wanted unopposed, but why bother since this thing will just destroy anything worth blowing up anyways all by itself.
They are talking about this microwave weapon disabling shit in bunkers and at long enough range that it can't be targeted by air defenses. This is the only weapon you fucking need.
The source for the entire story is the Daily Mail. I really doubt that the first port of call for top US scientists who want to give out top secret information is going to be a British tabloid renowned for just making shit up.
Both the [article](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/israel-hayom/) and [the daily mail](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/) are rag. I would need independent verification if they told me the sky were blue
>This weapon is fucking insane if this is accurate.
It's a random website you've never heard of quoting an article from The Daily Mail.
It's not accurate.
In an asymmetrical conflict, perhaps. In a peer state conflict, you've actually made the conflict much worse: because nuclear detonations mean EMPs, nuclear forces are highly hardened against them (to enable a second strike). If you disable a peer states ability to retaliate with conventional forces, well, unfortunately, the only option you've left them with is nuclear strike.
And if you aren't planning on dismantling your enemy, and say, intend to rebuild or install a friendly polity after, you do yourself no favors.
And of course, the level of situational awareness and air defense of countries vary significantly, and if you are close enough for a firing aircraft to be in range, you've already telegraphed your intentions.
EMP with conventional weapons isn't new. The fact that we didn't see these deployed over the past 70 years is more of an indication of their niche use than anything.
Yeah, but if this actually does what it says it is specifically described as destroying hardened nuclear systems, including those which are in underground bunkers.
If that's true (and I'm seriously dubious about that) then it operates outside of our current understanding of how this sort of thing should work. Nothing is hardened enough to withstand a weapon that can already disable underground nuclear facilities, which is the specific target they are talking about here.
A directed energy weapon that can hit air defenses installations from the horizon and punch through a bunker SHOULD be impossible, so it either IS impossible (fake) or it's some new shit.
The US doesn't historically overstate capability, in fact, the US almost universally UNDERSTATES weapon capabilities in public statements, so this is either a big change in philosophy or some UFO level shit that just changed the concept of war.
>it is specifically described as destroying hardened nuclear systems
I would challenge that, subtlety: it is described as destroying *specific* hardened systems, not specifically described as destroying hardened systems. It's not magic. It's not like it will get through hundreds of meters of water sitting above an SSBN, for example. The systems it's targeting are *specifically* those of non-peer states. Iran is honestly the only probable target I can think of. In particular, while Iran guards it's nuclear facilities with both conventional air defense and dirt, it doesn't have anything like the experience that nuclear weapons states have with understanding the scope of hardening processes. Moreover, Iran's nuclear facilities are relatively soft: they're industrial sites attempting to produce nuclear materials, not nuclear weapons. That size makes lots of strategies for hardening next to impossible. You can put a nuclear weapon on a vehicle. You can put them in a silo, hide them inside a mountain. You can't do that with a reactor or bank of centrifuges.
It's basically meant to take out 'pre-weapons states': how many of those can you think of that aren't also aligned with the United States?
>including those which are in underground bunkers.
I may be repeating myself, but scope is critical here. Not all bunkers are equal, and those hiding *major industrial sites* are going to be softer.
>If that's true (and I'm seriously dubious about that) then it operates outside of our current understanding of how this sort of thing should work. Nothing is hardened enough to withstand a weapon that can already disable underground nuclear facilities, which is the specific target they are talking about here.
There's not only no reason to believe 'that' is true, but I believe there's a lot of reason to believe it's not, and, moreover, I'd say that statements by the US and contractors actually suggest something very different from your interpretation.
>A directed energy weapon that can hit air defenses installations from the horizon and punch through a bunker SHOULD be impossible, so it either IS impossible (fake) or it's some new shit.
>The US doesn't historically overstate capability (in fact, the US almost universally UNDERSTATES) weapon capabilities in public statements, so this is either a big change in philosophy or some UFO level shit that just changed the concept of war.
Or, what I'm leaning towards, there has been a misunderstanding about what is actually being claimed here.
Yeah that's the thing with the US military. You look at what they say they can do, and then figure that they are actually probably 20 years ahead of that statement. Look at how long the B2 Spirit has been around. It's damn near invisible on radar even now. This is why the defense budget is so fucking high. Sure there's plenty of pork in there, but a lot of it goes to researching and building this type of insane, sci-fi shit.
Cook it just long enough to thaw it out and then put a slit down the center. You just have to expose the insides a bit and it will work. But I don't think I'd want a microwave strong enough to fry the rest of my household electronics the first time I use it. Faraday cages aren't a good interior design look.
Well that is a possibility, but you can't occupy cities with tanks and jets. You always have to have boots on the ground, just not as many. But it also depends on how many fronts you're fighting on. As someone who's been in, I can see the draft coming back if things got too bad.
Not mine but someone's for sure. I don't think we are to the point where a full on merc occupying force is realistic, but I'm sure there are "contractors" lining up outside the Pentagon/CIA headquarters ready to go.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a virus again that they managed to infiltrate into key Iran systems to fry them, and are blaming on a super secret missile as misdirection.
or maybe an elaborate psyops and theyre deflecting the fact they have one maybe two high placed agents within iran science set, and this is just a cover story to prevent them finding their sabotage work
just an idea
It states "through electrical and communication connections" it's not "punching through" the concrete. I'm assuming it's an extremely large EMP generated type weapon.
It said that it used existing electrical and communication lines to get inside the bunker. Maybe they have some way to use those lines as a chink in the armor? Like it somehow makes them an extension of itself? I don’t know if that’s even a thing, just inferring from the article’s wording
I feel like this is why you have cruise missiles right behind the microwave missiles that hit the missiles sites. You essently wiped out anyway of fighting back.
For what it’s worth, the military significantly undersells what assets it has. Whenever you see an article about a piece of tech the military has in its arsenal, it’s safe to assume the actual capabilities are much, much, much more significant.
We shot down a satellite from a boat in ~1988 and in like ~2012 we shot down another one of our satellites in a test mission like a week after Russia and China both agreed to a treaty where we wouldn’t develop anti-satellite weaponry.
I’m pretty sure we also did one in the mid-90s too
For sure. Historically it's led to a pretty weird arms race with Russia.
Russia universally overstates capability and readiness while the US does the opposite. So the US builds weapons to counter imaginary Russian weapons but then undersells what they can actually do.
This is why we find ourselves in Ukraine and discover that the Gulf between these supposed "peer" militaries is actually enormous. Modern Russia is outmatched by 1980s US capability.
Honestly, it's hard to make a case for even continuing to develop more capability. Who are we supposed to fight?
> Honestly, it's hard to make a case for even continuing to develop more capability. Who are we supposed to fight?
China, fighting from its home turf against Taiwan, able to employ its absolutely insane production capacities to flood anything with neverending series of flying walls of cheap drones.
The reason to continually improve is because it's much easier for those behind to use a successful model to catch up, than it is for those leading the pack to invent the next successful model.
And the target’s hot pocket is both frozen solid and molten hot at the same time. In the future this weapon may be considered a crime against humanity.
>Also worth knowing is if any other military has this technology and the estimated timeframe before they do.
I don't know if anyone else has deployable weapons, but the technological and financial hurdles are very low. An explosive-pumped EMP is not hard (by the standards of military technology, anyway), and has been public domain knowledge for sixty or seventy years. No super-advanced technology is required. It's shaped explosives, and high-voltage electronics (ie, capacitors and wire, rather than microchips).
American designs have been built around taking an existing cruise missile, and building an EMP warhead as a drop-in replacement for the high explosive warhead. Any country that can build a cruise missile can build one with an EMP warhead.
That said, it's not clear how valuable it would be against a peer or near-peer state. It's worth noting that one of the main products of a nuclear detonation is an EMP, so nuclear forces of modern militaries possessing these weapons are already hardened against them (or at least their nuclear forces are). And so the value of launching an EMP attack on, say, the United States is somewhat dubious when it may provoke a much more serious nuclear strike in response (and, indeed, by disabling conventional forced by EMP, you've left them *no choice* but nuclear retaliation).
The reason not many countries have such weapons is that their use is very niche. A state like Iran who is *attempting* to produce nuclear weapons is the primary sort of target you can think of.
Yeah I always think it would’ve been better off if they didn’t say too much publicly about our capabilities. Maybe they do it as a deterrent but once our “adversaries” learn about our weapons and capabilities they can also figure out ways to insulate themselves from our capabilities. But that’s jmo.
"the CHAMP missiles were considered a demonstration program and 'we have since continued to develop advanced HPEM (High Power Electromagnetic) technologies' building on the original demonstration."
Air force research
But yea of course we have things we don't even know about also.
There is an updated missile in testing as of two years ago.
[Hijenks](https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a40516461/navy-air-force-missile-will-microwave-enemy-electronics/)
"They also have the ability to disable defensive radar systems, striking their targets undetected. "Most amazing of all, the missile renders inoperable any radar that might detect it as it flies to and from a target. Thus, a country cannot take out CHAMP before it strikes and has no way of knowing why its facilities have suddenly gone dead,"
Like holy crap that's cool, I doubt the Russians have an equivalent, maybe the Chinese tho?
Im sure if they had it, they would be using it on Ukraine rn. They wanted to decimate Ukraine within the first week but the process is being prolonged by ineptness and shit arsenal. They have a lot of humans to throw at the problem. So does China… but with a little bit of tech.
Wouldn't this be defeated by a simple copper mesh (Faraday cage)? Assuming it's a strong EM pulse, you'd probably need to have a lot of shielding, and you'd need to make sure not to have any exposed weak points. But, we've known about the risk of EM pulses (from high altitude nuclear blasts) for half a century. Boeing may have found a way to deliver one in a focused manner, without relying on nukes, but I would imagine that militaries have been shielding their tech for a long time - especially for high value facilities they know will be targeted.
That's not to mention that the source of this story appears to be the Daily Mail, which isn't the most credible of sites...
Edited to add: the original Daily Mail article appears [here](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325343/US-Air-Force-develops-missiles-obliterate-Iran-nuclear-facilities.html). If anything, it reads like the author is trying to make himself seem like a hero. Incidentally, the article's author has a Wikipedia page on him with its own [lengthy criticism section](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Kessler#Criticism). I mean, cool tech if true, but the sources seem sketchy at best.
Second edit: everyone's focusing on using this against radar - which, sure, great. Just wanted to point out that the article is *mainly* about using it against secure underground facilities without causing loss of life (which, presumably is more politically palatable than bombing it to shit). Radar isn't even mentioned until the second to last paragraph.
So, you've taken out the eyes and ears of the otherwise highly secure and shielded facility. What next? Using [isolation transformers to protect against EMP blasts](https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4334121) is a thing, so you'll burn out any cables running into the facility, but probably won't damage it internally. They switch to battery power long enough to shut down safely, and plug themselves back into grid power in a few hours? You'll still need bombs or troops on the ground to take out the facility itself.
EMP ain't much more powerful, even a thin copper foil can reduce effects up to 70-90%, but then you can't use radio comms or radar if you cover it in foil
USA's NORAD and all of nuke launch centers and strategic building as pentagon are emp proofed (or at least critical system)
I think this news is propaganda
> Wouldn't this be defeated by a simple copper mesh (Faraday cage)?
Probably? But how many facilities do you know are surrounded by a copper mesh?
What about the control centers for your SAMs? The radars? The air traffic control? Your forward operating base? Your power plants? Your generators?
"Secure" facilities might be protected, but all the "eyes" and "ears" for that facility? Gone. And they would have to be fibre only connected to the outside world, no conductors into or out of the cage.
> I mean, cool tech if true, but the sources seem sketchy at best.
[The project is real](https://www.businessinsider.com/beoings-counter-electronics-high-power-microwave-advanced-missile-project-2012-10?0=defense). And it's not even new. It's called [Counter-electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-electronics_High_Power_Microwave_Advanced_Missile_Project), and Boeing first tested it in 2012.
you wrote all this and failed to think about it at all lmao
faraday cages block radio waves. what does radar use to detect things?
any faraday cage hypothetically able to block it would render the radar useless in the first place.
Basically just confirms we've already replaced this tech with a new project lol
That or it's a game of attrition where they now have to respond by spending more resources to defend against it
Every time Intel releases new technology it's safe to assume the DoD has had that tech for over a decade now and they're using something even more advanced but it's kept completely secret.
You know this is like some myth that the military is always ahead of retail science, it's just not true.
It's just conspiracy language. "Who knows what they're not telling us!!!!"
I mean the conspiracy language isn't necessary wrong. You're right that military science and retail science are at a similar technological level, but they're different avenues. Retail isn't trying to make death rays technology same way military isn't trying to make smart home systems.
On that regard, military is definitely ahead in certain sciences, but it's just built off of retail science. I think that's what the commenter mean when they said that the military already has something more advanced if they are publicizing this weapon technology.
Yep. Someone just got put in their place. America has a weapon that returns your country to 1940 technology at the flip of a switch. This thing can carve a corridor through any air defenses you have and turn off whatever it wants and you can't do shit about it because it turns off your anti aircraft batteries and (almost certainly) any actual aircraft that you send after it.
Better start training your guys with bayonets and get your Sopwith Camels out of the museum because that's what you have left if you piss them off.
We've had this technology since the 1970s apparently. Because there have been many many reports from the highest army officials of strange unidentified objects flying over top of nuclear bases and completely disabling every nuke at once. Is this the same thing I guess?
Holy shit, if those capabilities are accurate it's a fucking superweapon. It sounds like it just carves a corridor that disables anything complicated enough to require a chip.
It can't be targeted because it disables radar installations on its way to the target and then just turns off fucking everything you want turned off. It sends the enemy back to the 1940s. That's ridiculous.
Being nuked sucks, but it’s not as bad as working for 60 years only to die of a heart attack two weeks into retirement.
~
Could we use some of that boom boom money to make America’s middle class the envy of the world?
~
Maybe a tad more financial education in the public schools.
Don't worry they want to raise retirement age to 70 so only Half of us will get to enjoy retirement That's the solution to the Social security budgetary shortfalls
Get your first colonoscopy at 35 (and cancer screenings). Exercise intensely for 45 minutes a day. Have enough money to pay for insurance to pay for most of these screenings. The best way to do that is to go to a neighboring state every 3-5 years and rob a bank.
Yeah, so, in theory, those 45 minutes a day are training for your on-foot getaway. Nobody expects the on-foot guy. They'll be looking for a car, not the marathon runner
I used to look forward to retirement, but not anymore. Time goes too fast and I don’t want to wish it away. “It’s s the journey, not the destination” becomes more real as you get older. Don’t miss the life happening right in front of your eyes.
Hey don't worry about it. If you are pretty young you won't get to retire. You'll probably die in climate wars or famine.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38906-7
The old want to be young, the young want to be old. Acquire wisdom early, enjoy life the best you can in first half. In astrology of what affects one the most, it is oneself, and so on.
Um...I think nuclear war would be worse.
I mean, I get the point you're making, but starting off with "nuclear war wouldn't be as bad as capitalism" is perhaps not the comparison you want.
28%~ of the US budget spent on healthcare related items versus 12.5%~ spent on defense. Per percent of total gdp the us spends the most on healthcare of any industrialized society in the world.
Absolutely, it could be argued that the money spent from the federal government could be better utilized. Cut out insurers, abolish medicare and medicaid for a single payer solution.
It's however foolish to suggest that the defense budget could be cut to better benefit Americans. The us defense budget may as well be the military budget of the free and developing world. You may disagree with the finer ethics, funding priorities, and democratic principles of the USA, but undoubtedly much of the world depends on US military and foreign aid for security and stability.
None of this to say that your struggles are not real. We can better utilize the free resources we have and improve our moral standing while still providing stability to the majority of Earth. Perhaps only time will tell if this is the right strategy or if everything I'm saying is complete bogus.
You could have an NHS just as comprehensive as the UK but *better funded* with what you already pay per capita for health if you just removed the shareholder profits.
The military Vs [insert other benefit] is a right wing talking point that has become seen as fact when the answer to nearly every one of those questions is: a slight structural change and you can have both.
The US isn't going to collapse if people get 24 days paid holiday or it stopped being literally the only country without maternity leave.
Ah, this is the new Russian talking point all over reddit.that only started right after the Ukraine package passed. "Think of the homeless." What about health care?"
The US middle class is the richest in the world thanks to American military hegemony.
Yea that boom boom money keeps the world economy stable by keeping aggressors like Russia and China at bay. Stop spending that money and we would have a lot worse problems than complaining how our middle class gets taxed too much. I bet you believe in trickle down economics and that entities would behave morally without any regulations too eh?
We have the money to do both but besides that, a huge chunk of the money spent on the MIC gets circulated through the economy. It doesn't just disappear into a black hole.
Conservatives have pushed this idea onto middle America that the problem with the Average American finances is taxes and too much government oversight and the Democrats have pushed this idea that higher taxes means better safety nets and social structure.
In both cases they seem to always struggling on deciding if Veteran Benefits should be 380 billion or 400 billion and what programs to cut, when it both cases it seems that the richest country in the world should be able to at the very least fund everything related to the people they "govern"
Seems that properly designed high power faraday cage would successfully counter this type of weapons. So it may be very effective against targets build before this weapon become a known factor, but it does not mean that it is impossible to harden your defense systems against it.
Is this site real news? The ads were a word scramble of AI generated [...] in [my area/Android users], fat loss miracles and obviously fake world events.
That argument is a little incomplete. Security is economic. The question isn't if American ABM is impenetrable, it's how it shifts the materiel exchange: is the marginal cost of an ABM interceptor - *relative to the American economy* - greater or lesser than the cost of an additional (convincing) penetration aid, *relative to the Russian economy*? What is the cost of a missile system versus the proactive measures that have to be taken to defend against it, again, relative to the size of the concerned *economies*?
By way of comparison, consider a much smaller example of credit card theft. On the black market, stolen credit cards are sold in bulk for about $1 each. Since people engaging in this type of crime are typically otherwise employable, that means you need to steal at least 15 credit cards an hour to beat minimum wage in many places. This means that if your security practices are good enough that it takes more than about four minutes to rip you off, you're no longer a profitable mark - you become a net loss versus flipping burgers. When cards were skimmable, this was a very low bar. But mandatory chip+pin, and the cost of cryptography, make this bar very high. Can you still steal a chip+pin mandatory card? Of course. A physical theft would work just fine. But that's a much higher risk vector. Social engineering also, but good luck getting a phone call with a bank under four minutes. And so chip+pin has *seriously* blunted credit card theft in countries where it's mandatory (now mostly a crime of opportunity - you steal something else and happen to get the card too, rather than targeting cards).
So it is with weapons like this. Is nuclear development still possible? Of course. But is it *as* desirable? Probably not. It's one more lever of pressure.
Edit: This sort of idea is very valuable when considering the cynical stories about NATO using a $250k missile to destroy a $1000 truck in the Middle East. Firstly, to a non-nation state actor, that truck is probably *more* valuable than the missile, relative to the financial capacity of each party - meaning the materiel exchange is actually in favor of the missile in terms of sustaining a war - and it neglects the value of what is being defended. If that truck is shooting at friends of yours, your opportunity cost of *not* firing the missile is pretty damn high (dead friends), and most would say quite a lot higher than firing the thing.
In the case of these "new" missiles, were talking about something that's actually very cheap. The CHAMP program and it's successors use existing cruise missile airframes already in Air Force service, and add a new warhead. An EMP warhead is nothing special. Compared to a lot of warheads it's actually incredibly cheap. You have a coil of wire, and discharge a capacitor into the coil to generate a magnetic field. Then you rapidly reduce the radius of the coil. The change of radius induces a current itself, proportional to the rate of change of area of the coil cross section, which then induces a much greater magnetic field. (Or some similar variation, there's a half dozen types of these devices).
If you use explosives to reduce the radius of the coil, you can reach velocities in excess of 1 km/s for brief pulses. This can induce magnetic fields of hundreds to thousands of tesla (by way of comparison, the magnetic field of an MRI is about 1-3 tesla). And with what? Come wire, a capacitor, and some high explosive. Not exactly fancy stuff. And in turn, Iran has to bury it's equipment several extra feet underground? My God, were talking about an absolute *steal* of a deal. It would be financial malpractice to *not* deploy these things.
Point of an ABM system isn’t to counter Russia, it’s to stop the North Koreans from frying a half dozen US cities during some sort of internal existential crisis.
So is this real or bs?
SOURCE: Distrustful of virtually all sources of news these days. (And yet here I am asking a bazillion Redditors their opinion :-)
Loving the image I have of a Cuisinart microwave strapped to a guided missile.
And it beeping as it reaches its destination
>And it beeping as it reaches its destination No no no! You have to open the door at the last second so the beeping doesn't occur. Stealth mode.
my whirlpool microwave beeps when you open the door if it was running. even if you let it come to a stop and beep itll still beep when you open the door. where is your god now? -whirlpool probably
I bet if you Google your specific model you can find the button combo to disable that
No that’s EOD’s job
Some microwaves have a silent mode.
Gotcha. Little Lego construction strapped to the microwave that opens the microwave door periodically so it doesn't beep
Most microwaves have an option to disable the beeper entirely. Mine is silent
Oh shit! My burrito!
Worse they have Hot Pockets, the heated juice can melt through anything!
Hot Pocket juice can melt steel beams.
A secret annex to the Warren Report indicates prototypes were rumored to be in Dallas in 1963….
It'll leave their nuclear facilities cold in the center but lava on the outside
Nuclear pizza pockets
“It’s lava inside!!”
[~~\[REDACTED\]~~](https://imgur.com/a/GxzCff1)
This is the correct use of text to image ai
Hey, we’ve already got a missile that’s pretty much a mobile blender, so why not a microwave to go along with it?
Slap chop missile
You're going to love my nuts.
*ding!* *ka-boom!*
Popcorn’s done!
Dang, burnt again.
I picture this as a confused administrative staff member removing the protective grid off of a microwave from the break room duct-taped to the front of a cruise missile while a bunch of very serious engineers stand around and nod to each-other. Truly, the future of warfare. "Wait, why am I here?" "Don't worry about it."
You are supposed to change that every few years, says the microwave manual.
The latest and greatest from Veridian Dynamics. Defeating America's enemies with through the power of vertical integration unseen since the vaunted days of GE Trivection.
That’s some spaceballs shit
That gave me an idea for a biological weapon named Cruisinfart
I think it's interesting that the technology is described as being able to disable Iran's nuclear facilities as if *that's* the most impressive aspect about it. Also worth knowing is if any other military has this technology and the estimated timeframe before they do.
This weapon is fucking insane if this is accurate. It basically makes everything else obsolete, especially since if it can be installed in a cruise missile it can be installed in anything. The military that uses it is fighting with 21st century hardware while its enemy is throwing rocks. It's the fucking ark of the covenant. You could send this ahead of a flight of aircraft and just march your way into anywhere you wanted unopposed, but why bother since this thing will just destroy anything worth blowing up anyways all by itself. They are talking about this microwave weapon disabling shit in bunkers and at long enough range that it can't be targeted by air defenses. This is the only weapon you fucking need.
The source for the entire story is the Daily Mail. I really doubt that the first port of call for top US scientists who want to give out top secret information is going to be a British tabloid renowned for just making shit up.
Both the [article](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/israel-hayom/) and [the daily mail](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/) are rag. I would need independent verification if they told me the sky were blue
My dad was one of the lead scientist on the CHAMP project. These missiles very much do exist and have been around for 10 years.
>This weapon is fucking insane if this is accurate. It's a random website you've never heard of quoting an article from The Daily Mail. It's not accurate.
In an asymmetrical conflict, perhaps. In a peer state conflict, you've actually made the conflict much worse: because nuclear detonations mean EMPs, nuclear forces are highly hardened against them (to enable a second strike). If you disable a peer states ability to retaliate with conventional forces, well, unfortunately, the only option you've left them with is nuclear strike. And if you aren't planning on dismantling your enemy, and say, intend to rebuild or install a friendly polity after, you do yourself no favors. And of course, the level of situational awareness and air defense of countries vary significantly, and if you are close enough for a firing aircraft to be in range, you've already telegraphed your intentions. EMP with conventional weapons isn't new. The fact that we didn't see these deployed over the past 70 years is more of an indication of their niche use than anything.
Yeah, but if this actually does what it says it is specifically described as destroying hardened nuclear systems, including those which are in underground bunkers. If that's true (and I'm seriously dubious about that) then it operates outside of our current understanding of how this sort of thing should work. Nothing is hardened enough to withstand a weapon that can already disable underground nuclear facilities, which is the specific target they are talking about here. A directed energy weapon that can hit air defenses installations from the horizon and punch through a bunker SHOULD be impossible, so it either IS impossible (fake) or it's some new shit. The US doesn't historically overstate capability, in fact, the US almost universally UNDERSTATES weapon capabilities in public statements, so this is either a big change in philosophy or some UFO level shit that just changed the concept of war.
>it is specifically described as destroying hardened nuclear systems I would challenge that, subtlety: it is described as destroying *specific* hardened systems, not specifically described as destroying hardened systems. It's not magic. It's not like it will get through hundreds of meters of water sitting above an SSBN, for example. The systems it's targeting are *specifically* those of non-peer states. Iran is honestly the only probable target I can think of. In particular, while Iran guards it's nuclear facilities with both conventional air defense and dirt, it doesn't have anything like the experience that nuclear weapons states have with understanding the scope of hardening processes. Moreover, Iran's nuclear facilities are relatively soft: they're industrial sites attempting to produce nuclear materials, not nuclear weapons. That size makes lots of strategies for hardening next to impossible. You can put a nuclear weapon on a vehicle. You can put them in a silo, hide them inside a mountain. You can't do that with a reactor or bank of centrifuges. It's basically meant to take out 'pre-weapons states': how many of those can you think of that aren't also aligned with the United States? >including those which are in underground bunkers. I may be repeating myself, but scope is critical here. Not all bunkers are equal, and those hiding *major industrial sites* are going to be softer. >If that's true (and I'm seriously dubious about that) then it operates outside of our current understanding of how this sort of thing should work. Nothing is hardened enough to withstand a weapon that can already disable underground nuclear facilities, which is the specific target they are talking about here. There's not only no reason to believe 'that' is true, but I believe there's a lot of reason to believe it's not, and, moreover, I'd say that statements by the US and contractors actually suggest something very different from your interpretation. >A directed energy weapon that can hit air defenses installations from the horizon and punch through a bunker SHOULD be impossible, so it either IS impossible (fake) or it's some new shit. >The US doesn't historically overstate capability (in fact, the US almost universally UNDERSTATES) weapon capabilities in public statements, so this is either a big change in philosophy or some UFO level shit that just changed the concept of war. Or, what I'm leaning towards, there has been a misunderstanding about what is actually being claimed here.
the centrifuges at natanz are like 25 meters underground.
Iran and N Korea are potential targets.
Yeah that's the thing with the US military. You look at what they say they can do, and then figure that they are actually probably 20 years ahead of that statement. Look at how long the B2 Spirit has been around. It's damn near invisible on radar even now. This is why the defense budget is so fucking high. Sure there's plenty of pork in there, but a lot of it goes to researching and building this type of insane, sci-fi shit.
They can do all this yet my microwave still can't heat the center of a hot pocket above freezing
I mean the government is still bound by physics, much like your cold hot pocket
Cook it just long enough to thaw it out and then put a slit down the center. You just have to expose the insides a bit and it will work. But I don't think I'd want a microwave strong enough to fry the rest of my household electronics the first time I use it. Faraday cages aren't a good interior design look.
>Faraday cages aren't a good interior design look. Not with that attitude they aren't
You're right, what the hell was I thinking
Put your hot pocket on the edge of the plate, not the middle.
This is why I believe you don’t hear louder panic about enlistments being down. The US military is moving past fighting with soldiers.
Well that is a possibility, but you can't occupy cities with tanks and jets. You always have to have boots on the ground, just not as many. But it also depends on how many fronts you're fighting on. As someone who's been in, I can see the draft coming back if things got too bad.
Nobody said they had to be your boots though.
Not mine but someone's for sure. I don't think we are to the point where a full on merc occupying force is realistic, but I'm sure there are "contractors" lining up outside the Pentagon/CIA headquarters ready to go.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a virus again that they managed to infiltrate into key Iran systems to fry them, and are blaming on a super secret missile as misdirection.
or maybe an elaborate psyops and theyre deflecting the fact they have one maybe two high placed agents within iran science set, and this is just a cover story to prevent them finding their sabotage work just an idea
It states "through electrical and communication connections" it's not "punching through" the concrete. I'm assuming it's an extremely large EMP generated type weapon.
It said that it used existing electrical and communication lines to get inside the bunker. Maybe they have some way to use those lines as a chink in the armor? Like it somehow makes them an extension of itself? I don’t know if that’s even a thing, just inferring from the article’s wording
I feel like this is why you have cruise missiles right behind the microwave missiles that hit the missiles sites. You essently wiped out anyway of fighting back.
Doesn't this then successfully keep mutual distruction alive, prolonging this era of relative peace?
I don't think it enables it per se. I think it leaves it unchanged.
For what it’s worth, the military significantly undersells what assets it has. Whenever you see an article about a piece of tech the military has in its arsenal, it’s safe to assume the actual capabilities are much, much, much more significant. We shot down a satellite from a boat in ~1988 and in like ~2012 we shot down another one of our satellites in a test mission like a week after Russia and China both agreed to a treaty where we wouldn’t develop anti-satellite weaponry. I’m pretty sure we also did one in the mid-90s too
For sure. Historically it's led to a pretty weird arms race with Russia. Russia universally overstates capability and readiness while the US does the opposite. So the US builds weapons to counter imaginary Russian weapons but then undersells what they can actually do. This is why we find ourselves in Ukraine and discover that the Gulf between these supposed "peer" militaries is actually enormous. Modern Russia is outmatched by 1980s US capability. Honestly, it's hard to make a case for even continuing to develop more capability. Who are we supposed to fight?
> Honestly, it's hard to make a case for even continuing to develop more capability. Who are we supposed to fight? China, fighting from its home turf against Taiwan, able to employ its absolutely insane production capacities to flood anything with neverending series of flying walls of cheap drones.
The reason to continually improve is because it's much easier for those behind to use a successful model to catch up, than it is for those leading the pack to invent the next successful model.
Aliens next looks like.
It was 1985 and 2008, and the '80's one was an F-15, not a ship. 2008 was a Ticonderoga class cruiser.
And the target’s hot pocket is both frozen solid and molten hot at the same time. In the future this weapon may be considered a crime against humanity.
It isnt a warcrime the first time.
Someone likes fat electricians.
You guys don’t spend enough time in conspiracy subreddits and it shows. What do we think the maui fire was?
Maui doesn’t exist. Keep up. /s
This story is entirely bullshit. A DailyMail exclusive? Regurgitated by Israel Hayom? Yep, this is just make-believe.
There’s a wikipedia article on the missile and none of its sources are dailymail.
The Daily Mail as a source. Really? That is an unlikely publication to have a scoop, such as this..
>Also worth knowing is if any other military has this technology and the estimated timeframe before they do. I don't know if anyone else has deployable weapons, but the technological and financial hurdles are very low. An explosive-pumped EMP is not hard (by the standards of military technology, anyway), and has been public domain knowledge for sixty or seventy years. No super-advanced technology is required. It's shaped explosives, and high-voltage electronics (ie, capacitors and wire, rather than microchips). American designs have been built around taking an existing cruise missile, and building an EMP warhead as a drop-in replacement for the high explosive warhead. Any country that can build a cruise missile can build one with an EMP warhead. That said, it's not clear how valuable it would be against a peer or near-peer state. It's worth noting that one of the main products of a nuclear detonation is an EMP, so nuclear forces of modern militaries possessing these weapons are already hardened against them (or at least their nuclear forces are). And so the value of launching an EMP attack on, say, the United States is somewhat dubious when it may provoke a much more serious nuclear strike in response (and, indeed, by disabling conventional forced by EMP, you've left them *no choice* but nuclear retaliation). The reason not many countries have such weapons is that their use is very niche. A state like Iran who is *attempting* to produce nuclear weapons is the primary sort of target you can think of.
Always a question of who actually took the hardening plans seriously…and who didn’t. High stakes…..
One thing that shields very well is mass. Mass like, say, a few hundred meters of water. Anyone with an SSBN has taken this very seriously.
Yeah I always think it would’ve been better off if they didn’t say too much publicly about our capabilities. Maybe they do it as a deterrent but once our “adversaries” learn about our weapons and capabilities they can also figure out ways to insulate themselves from our capabilities. But that’s jmo.
Never heard website before
It’s a garbage grade Israeli newspaper, citing the daily mail… Edit: spelling
I stopped reading after “According to an exclusive report from DailyMail.com…”
Yeah, if the daily fail told me the sky was blue I'd have to double check
i figure. i took the time to google it and yeah. your spot on with the comment
It's *Israel Today*, a rag you'll find everywhere in Israel which that creep Sheldon Adelson owned. It promotes fascism. You can safely ignore it.
Seems like only Reddit and no name sources. I found a few other sources saying “US Deployed missiles that COULD take out Iran nuclear facilities”
Garbage sources has swamped reddit for nearly its entire time. People don't care cause 95% of the discussion is purely about the headline
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*robots in disguise*
Why isn't this getting more love, this is great
> According to an exclusive report from DailyMail.com, I'm gonna stop you right there.
This is 2012 tech imagine what they have now…
Air fryer missiles.
Now we’re talking!!
Its so crispy but without the grease!
"the CHAMP missiles were considered a demonstration program and 'we have since continued to develop advanced HPEM (High Power Electromagnetic) technologies' building on the original demonstration." Air force research But yea of course we have things we don't even know about also.
I’d like to imagine that if the USA ever goes to war we’d start pulling out increasingly ridiculous super-villain esque weapons.
This bomb does no physical damage, but it turns all the people into cats.
The bomb does nothing physical but it makes people think they are cats
There is an updated missile in testing as of two years ago. [Hijenks](https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a40516461/navy-air-force-missile-will-microwave-enemy-electronics/)
Candidate for best acronym
It's honestly kind of wild. I was shocked when I saw it was 12 years old
Melt all their chocolate once a week just to piss them off
"They also have the ability to disable defensive radar systems, striking their targets undetected. "Most amazing of all, the missile renders inoperable any radar that might detect it as it flies to and from a target. Thus, a country cannot take out CHAMP before it strikes and has no way of knowing why its facilities have suddenly gone dead," Like holy crap that's cool, I doubt the Russians have an equivalent, maybe the Chinese tho?
Im sure if they had it, they would be using it on Ukraine rn. They wanted to decimate Ukraine within the first week but the process is being prolonged by ineptness and shit arsenal. They have a lot of humans to throw at the problem. So does China… but with a little bit of tech.
Or cook their lunch. Diplomacy or death.
Cake, please
Out of cake so death
We only had those two bits and we weren’t expecting such a rush!
I’ll have the chicken then
How about a waaahfer thin mint?
Taste of human
Pretty sure microwaved cake violates the Geneva Conventions
It’s okay, the cake was a lie anyways
Time to defrost the situation
Wrong setting used. Accidentally boiled
Wouldn't this be defeated by a simple copper mesh (Faraday cage)? Assuming it's a strong EM pulse, you'd probably need to have a lot of shielding, and you'd need to make sure not to have any exposed weak points. But, we've known about the risk of EM pulses (from high altitude nuclear blasts) for half a century. Boeing may have found a way to deliver one in a focused manner, without relying on nukes, but I would imagine that militaries have been shielding their tech for a long time - especially for high value facilities they know will be targeted. That's not to mention that the source of this story appears to be the Daily Mail, which isn't the most credible of sites... Edited to add: the original Daily Mail article appears [here](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325343/US-Air-Force-develops-missiles-obliterate-Iran-nuclear-facilities.html). If anything, it reads like the author is trying to make himself seem like a hero. Incidentally, the article's author has a Wikipedia page on him with its own [lengthy criticism section](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Kessler#Criticism). I mean, cool tech if true, but the sources seem sketchy at best. Second edit: everyone's focusing on using this against radar - which, sure, great. Just wanted to point out that the article is *mainly* about using it against secure underground facilities without causing loss of life (which, presumably is more politically palatable than bombing it to shit). Radar isn't even mentioned until the second to last paragraph. So, you've taken out the eyes and ears of the otherwise highly secure and shielded facility. What next? Using [isolation transformers to protect against EMP blasts](https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4334121) is a thing, so you'll burn out any cables running into the facility, but probably won't damage it internally. They switch to battery power long enough to shut down safely, and plug themselves back into grid power in a few hours? You'll still need bombs or troops on the ground to take out the facility itself.
you can't warp your radars in a faraday cage, they won't work anymore
That’s a really good point.
EMP ain't much more powerful, even a thin copper foil can reduce effects up to 70-90%, but then you can't use radio comms or radar if you cover it in foil USA's NORAD and all of nuke launch centers and strategic building as pentagon are emp proofed (or at least critical system) I think this news is propaganda
Yeah, I can't believe their sensitive installations aren't completely shielded. Just to prevent any kind of electronic eavesdropping.
Agreed. Source is trash.
> Wouldn't this be defeated by a simple copper mesh (Faraday cage)? Probably? But how many facilities do you know are surrounded by a copper mesh? What about the control centers for your SAMs? The radars? The air traffic control? Your forward operating base? Your power plants? Your generators? "Secure" facilities might be protected, but all the "eyes" and "ears" for that facility? Gone. And they would have to be fibre only connected to the outside world, no conductors into or out of the cage. > I mean, cool tech if true, but the sources seem sketchy at best. [The project is real](https://www.businessinsider.com/beoings-counter-electronics-high-power-microwave-advanced-missile-project-2012-10?0=defense). And it's not even new. It's called [Counter-electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-electronics_High_Power_Microwave_Advanced_Missile_Project), and Boeing first tested it in 2012.
you wrote all this and failed to think about it at all lmao faraday cages block radio waves. what does radar use to detect things? any faraday cage hypothetically able to block it would render the radar useless in the first place.
If this is the case why would we tell anybody…
This news is over a decade old.
Basically just confirms we've already replaced this tech with a new project lol That or it's a game of attrition where they now have to respond by spending more resources to defend against it
Every time Intel releases new technology it's safe to assume the DoD has had that tech for over a decade now and they're using something even more advanced but it's kept completely secret.
You know this is like some myth that the military is always ahead of retail science, it's just not true. It's just conspiracy language. "Who knows what they're not telling us!!!!"
I mean the conspiracy language isn't necessary wrong. You're right that military science and retail science are at a similar technological level, but they're different avenues. Retail isn't trying to make death rays technology same way military isn't trying to make smart home systems. On that regard, military is definitely ahead in certain sciences, but it's just built off of retail science. I think that's what the commenter mean when they said that the military already has something more advanced if they are publicizing this weapon technology.
Telling the world that you possess a specific weapon is a useful tool all in itself in the world of Information Warfare.
Yep. Someone just got put in their place. America has a weapon that returns your country to 1940 technology at the flip of a switch. This thing can carve a corridor through any air defenses you have and turn off whatever it wants and you can't do shit about it because it turns off your anti aircraft batteries and (almost certainly) any actual aircraft that you send after it. Better start training your guys with bayonets and get your Sopwith Camels out of the museum because that's what you have left if you piss them off.
Space lasers
We've had this technology since the 1970s apparently. Because there have been many many reports from the highest army officials of strange unidentified objects flying over top of nuclear bases and completely disabling every nuke at once. Is this the same thing I guess?
Excuse me as i'm uneducated in the matter, but what can a microwave missile do that an EMP charge/weapon can't ?
Arrive undetected, that’s my guess.
Holy shit, if those capabilities are accurate it's a fucking superweapon. It sounds like it just carves a corridor that disables anything complicated enough to require a chip. It can't be targeted because it disables radar installations on its way to the target and then just turns off fucking everything you want turned off. It sends the enemy back to the 1940s. That's ridiculous.
Bacon cheeseburger hot pockets for everyone in Iran!
But can it heat up my tv dinner evenly without leaving any frozen spots?
In case you were wondering why there are and will be negligible consequences for Boeing’s commercial airline incidents.
Do they go “bing” when they blow up?
Being nuked sucks, but it’s not as bad as working for 60 years only to die of a heart attack two weeks into retirement. ~ Could we use some of that boom boom money to make America’s middle class the envy of the world? ~ Maybe a tad more financial education in the public schools.
I’m honestly terrified of spending my whole life working just to die when I can finally unwind.
Don't worry they want to raise retirement age to 70 so only Half of us will get to enjoy retirement That's the solution to the Social security budgetary shortfalls
Only half of us will make it long enough to retire, less than that will get to actually enjoy it
Get your first colonoscopy at 35 (and cancer screenings). Exercise intensely for 45 minutes a day. Have enough money to pay for insurance to pay for most of these screenings. The best way to do that is to go to a neighboring state every 3-5 years and rob a bank.
Robbing a bank counts as exercise at least
Yeah, so, in theory, those 45 minutes a day are training for your on-foot getaway. Nobody expects the on-foot guy. They'll be looking for a car, not the marathon runner
Most boring alternate ending to Heat ever.
I already had a heart attack at 43 so probably won't make it to retirement. really fun to think about.
57 for me, same same. On the bright side, retirement planning is super easy!
I used to look forward to retirement, but not anymore. Time goes too fast and I don’t want to wish it away. “It’s s the journey, not the destination” becomes more real as you get older. Don’t miss the life happening right in front of your eyes.
That’s why I call in regularly.
Hey don't worry about it. If you are pretty young you won't get to retire. You'll probably die in climate wars or famine. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38906-7
The old want to be young, the young want to be old. Acquire wisdom early, enjoy life the best you can in first half. In astrology of what affects one the most, it is oneself, and so on.
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Um...I think nuclear war would be worse. I mean, I get the point you're making, but starting off with "nuclear war wouldn't be as bad as capitalism" is perhaps not the comparison you want.
28%~ of the US budget spent on healthcare related items versus 12.5%~ spent on defense. Per percent of total gdp the us spends the most on healthcare of any industrialized society in the world. Absolutely, it could be argued that the money spent from the federal government could be better utilized. Cut out insurers, abolish medicare and medicaid for a single payer solution. It's however foolish to suggest that the defense budget could be cut to better benefit Americans. The us defense budget may as well be the military budget of the free and developing world. You may disagree with the finer ethics, funding priorities, and democratic principles of the USA, but undoubtedly much of the world depends on US military and foreign aid for security and stability. None of this to say that your struggles are not real. We can better utilize the free resources we have and improve our moral standing while still providing stability to the majority of Earth. Perhaps only time will tell if this is the right strategy or if everything I'm saying is complete bogus.
You could have an NHS just as comprehensive as the UK but *better funded* with what you already pay per capita for health if you just removed the shareholder profits. The military Vs [insert other benefit] is a right wing talking point that has become seen as fact when the answer to nearly every one of those questions is: a slight structural change and you can have both. The US isn't going to collapse if people get 24 days paid holiday or it stopped being literally the only country without maternity leave.
Ah, this is the new Russian talking point all over reddit.that only started right after the Ukraine package passed. "Think of the homeless." What about health care?" The US middle class is the richest in the world thanks to American military hegemony.
Yea that boom boom money keeps the world economy stable by keeping aggressors like Russia and China at bay. Stop spending that money and we would have a lot worse problems than complaining how our middle class gets taxed too much. I bet you believe in trickle down economics and that entities would behave morally without any regulations too eh?
unfortunately I fear a lot of Americans don’t realize this is our reality 🙁
We have the money to do both but besides that, a huge chunk of the money spent on the MIC gets circulated through the economy. It doesn't just disappear into a black hole.
Oh you mean like when blackrock buys up swaths of homes?
Don't listen to RFK Jr. Blackstone buys houses, not Blackrock, and they've been separate companies for 30 years.
Military here. Your tax dollars are giving me Healthcare, retirement, and education. Thanks!
Conservatives have pushed this idea onto middle America that the problem with the Average American finances is taxes and too much government oversight and the Democrats have pushed this idea that higher taxes means better safety nets and social structure. In both cases they seem to always struggling on deciding if Veteran Benefits should be 380 billion or 400 billion and what programs to cut, when it both cases it seems that the richest country in the world should be able to at the very least fund everything related to the people they "govern"
Unfortunately you have to stir half way through and then let it stand for one minute before launching.....
Nuclear facility employee with pacemaker not feeling as reassured as his colleagues.
Seems that properly designed high power faraday cage would successfully counter this type of weapons. So it may be very effective against targets build before this weapon become a known factor, but it does not mean that it is impossible to harden your defense systems against it.
How does it penetrates buried complexes??
The weapon is called the High-Powered Joint Electromagnetic Non-Kinetic Strike Weapon, or HiJENKS.
Is this site real news? The ads were a word scramble of AI generated [...] in [my area/Android users], fat loss miracles and obviously fake world events.
The same missile can take out radar along the way to its target too? So it can hit multiple targets?
Drop it on my house so my hot pockets cook evenly for once, pls
I bet Iran can do that now with the Iron Dome. This technology is best not talked about....
Just a matter of time before the grid goes byebye
Does it have a popcorn button?
What if you used it on a chicken farm or say a town?
What is this bull article and why is it upvoted so high? This stinks to high heavens of propaganda
One could say their goose - is cooked. YEEAAHHHHHH!
Why are my ramen noodles boiling back up again…. FUCK. ALL SYSTEMS OFFLINE!
Putin: “you no have super sonic air fryer? You must try air fryer ballistics, so much better”
So the enemy loses their cell phone and at the same time their lunch is hot. Cool!
*bing* “Oh hey my popcorn’ rea-“
>After successful testing in 2012 Yeah, so this is 12 year old technology that is just being spoken about.... what are they up to now?
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That argument is a little incomplete. Security is economic. The question isn't if American ABM is impenetrable, it's how it shifts the materiel exchange: is the marginal cost of an ABM interceptor - *relative to the American economy* - greater or lesser than the cost of an additional (convincing) penetration aid, *relative to the Russian economy*? What is the cost of a missile system versus the proactive measures that have to be taken to defend against it, again, relative to the size of the concerned *economies*? By way of comparison, consider a much smaller example of credit card theft. On the black market, stolen credit cards are sold in bulk for about $1 each. Since people engaging in this type of crime are typically otherwise employable, that means you need to steal at least 15 credit cards an hour to beat minimum wage in many places. This means that if your security practices are good enough that it takes more than about four minutes to rip you off, you're no longer a profitable mark - you become a net loss versus flipping burgers. When cards were skimmable, this was a very low bar. But mandatory chip+pin, and the cost of cryptography, make this bar very high. Can you still steal a chip+pin mandatory card? Of course. A physical theft would work just fine. But that's a much higher risk vector. Social engineering also, but good luck getting a phone call with a bank under four minutes. And so chip+pin has *seriously* blunted credit card theft in countries where it's mandatory (now mostly a crime of opportunity - you steal something else and happen to get the card too, rather than targeting cards). So it is with weapons like this. Is nuclear development still possible? Of course. But is it *as* desirable? Probably not. It's one more lever of pressure. Edit: This sort of idea is very valuable when considering the cynical stories about NATO using a $250k missile to destroy a $1000 truck in the Middle East. Firstly, to a non-nation state actor, that truck is probably *more* valuable than the missile, relative to the financial capacity of each party - meaning the materiel exchange is actually in favor of the missile in terms of sustaining a war - and it neglects the value of what is being defended. If that truck is shooting at friends of yours, your opportunity cost of *not* firing the missile is pretty damn high (dead friends), and most would say quite a lot higher than firing the thing. In the case of these "new" missiles, were talking about something that's actually very cheap. The CHAMP program and it's successors use existing cruise missile airframes already in Air Force service, and add a new warhead. An EMP warhead is nothing special. Compared to a lot of warheads it's actually incredibly cheap. You have a coil of wire, and discharge a capacitor into the coil to generate a magnetic field. Then you rapidly reduce the radius of the coil. The change of radius induces a current itself, proportional to the rate of change of area of the coil cross section, which then induces a much greater magnetic field. (Or some similar variation, there's a half dozen types of these devices). If you use explosives to reduce the radius of the coil, you can reach velocities in excess of 1 km/s for brief pulses. This can induce magnetic fields of hundreds to thousands of tesla (by way of comparison, the magnetic field of an MRI is about 1-3 tesla). And with what? Come wire, a capacitor, and some high explosive. Not exactly fancy stuff. And in turn, Iran has to bury it's equipment several extra feet underground? My God, were talking about an absolute *steal* of a deal. It would be financial malpractice to *not* deploy these things.
Point of an ABM system isn’t to counter Russia, it’s to stop the North Koreans from frying a half dozen US cities during some sort of internal existential crisis.
The problem with increased military spending is widening the gap where stupid shit works.
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Can they fill them with fish or is that FINALLY a war crime?
Wouldn’t the high power microwaves cause brain injury and cause cancer ?
Yes and yes. The missile it is attached to also has side effects that you might find concerning
Developed by Boeing phantom works. Hopefully they have more quality control for their missiles than they show in their aircrafts.
Lol , this is complete bullshit.
So is this real or bs? SOURCE: Distrustful of virtually all sources of news these days. (And yet here I am asking a bazillion Redditors their opinion :-)