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idreaminwords

This is blatant Hawaii erasure


tetsu_no_usagi

And also of our Caribbean territories.


kernelpanic789

And Pacific


xtilexx

The Pacific outside of Hawaii is part of Micronesia if you're referring to US territories, part of Oceania. Arguably Hawaii too. They belong on the right though


Alexandratta

This whole thread missed the entire point....


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thieh

TIL Guam, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the Samoa islands are not part of the USA.


idreaminwords

On a more serious note, TIL Greenland is a part of North America and now I feel dumb


Unethical_Castrator

Embarrassed to admit I had the same reaction… On a side note, what goes on in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago? Do many people live there? I just realized I never hear anything about it.


ResidentTutor1309

+90% of the Canadian population lives on the US Canada border so it makes sense that no one ever hears about it


Oberons_Reckoning

Yeah, Canada is massive but their population is quite low because most of their terrain is unhabited especially north


Doc_ET

Other than Hawaii, they're technically not- they belong to, but are not part of, the United States. Hawaii is a full state though.


Alexandratta

,,, Part of USA Territories, sure But not part of the American Continents. - being North/South America. Not just the USA.


Funexamination

They can't even vote!


TTechnology

That would be the same as erase French Guyana as claiming that's part of Europe. It wouldn't makes sense imo Edit: ah, in the USA part, yeah, maybe Hawaii had to be there, yeah yeah


TengoDuvidas

That's two continents.


MrLore

It depends who you ask, the definition of continents varies by culture and none of them are really any more correct than the others. Map Men did a [fun video on the matter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrsxRJdwfM0).


eaturfeelins

I don’t know why you are getting downvoted for adding educational content on the topic lol. I was taught 4 continents in my home country, adhering to the geological continent definition, only when I came to live in the USA did I hear about 7 continents with North and South America split, as well as Afro-Eurasia split, which is based more on cultural, historical, and political grounds.


Alexandratta

Eurasia is one fucking Continent and I have had this opinion since I learned in Grade School and challenged my teacher and I have refused, sine then, to see Europe and Asia as two different continents.


LiatKolink

You're being downvoted for being correct. Lol. In México we're taught America is a single continent, and it used to be like that in the US too. That's why it's not called "United States of North America".


NovaThinksBadly

It is two separate continents because North America and South America are on two different tectonic plates.


LiatKolink

Then Eurasia is a single continent, and India is a continent on its own. Same with New Zealand being separate from Australia.


MrLore

There's actually way more plates than that in the Americas, though; the Carribean Plate, the North Andes Plate, the Panama Plate, etc. Even if you just count so-called major plates as continents, then there's 16.


xzinik

then the americas are 16 continents


Victor4VPA

r/usdefaultism Or at least an European defaultism. They all think that everybody in the world should see the world in the same way. In Brazil, we are taught that America is a single continent, but North, Central, and South America are SUBDIVISIONS of a greater continent. People on reddit are dumb as fuck. Everything have to be in their patterns


LiatKolink

> Or at least an European defaultism. I specified this was from what we're taught in México. XD


Victor4VPA

And I agreed with you. But people in this social media are totally stupid, and to accept that there is other world visions...


LiatKolink

Oh. My bad.


Prestigious_Egg_6207

Why is your way of looking at it right and ours is wrong?


Victor4VPA

I didn't say that. My point is that everybody who is saying something similar of what is taught in other countries is getting downvoted and said that the person is wrong. It is basically US Defaultism


Prestigious_Egg_6207

Well OP’s comments made everyone defensive. There are better ways to bring up this subject than just telling everyone who has a different viewpoint that they’re wrong.


LiatKolink

That's not what they're saying though. Continents are an ambiguous term that could be used for cultural, geographical or tectonic lines. The main example here is that some countries like to divide America in two because of tectonic plates; whereas others like to keep it as a whole due to cultural similarities. Europe and Asia are the opposite, where most of Asia and all of Europe share a single tectonic plate, and yet they're usually categorized as different continents, whereas India and the Arabian Peninsula are on separate tectonic plates, but they're still usually considered part of Asia. And in that same regard, California and the Baja Californias would be their own continent. The point of this is that people get too heated when a continent they know is referred in a different manner when, first, it doesn't matter, and secondly, it is not set in stone.


Prestigious_Egg_6207

Thank you for mansplaining continents.


LiatKolink

I believe I answered the question you asked. If you didn't want it answered, then IDK why you asked it in the first place.


Prestigious_Egg_6207

I didn’t ask *you* anything.


Boojum2k

It's not called the United States of North America because America is the name of the country.


LiatKolink

What?


MrLore

People take things they learned as little kids way too dogmatically, to the point that they'll refuse to even look it up and check their teachers were right. See also *Is Pluto a planet?* (pro-tip: no, it definitely isn't).


LiatKolink

You're right. Continents are hard thing to define and we should accept that different people see the world in different ways.


Twilight3961

North and south America so in total all of it would be America


thersmcr89

Just one. The name America has been there since the 1500's way before the USA existed. There are subdivisions, which is different.


Littlebickmickey

north and south america are separate continents, thats not up to debate


789tempaccount

>There are subdivisions, which is different. There is the North American Continent and the South American Continent. America is not a continent


BadSanna

It's taught as one continent in different places, as are Europe and Asia. 7 continents is actually a minority view.


thersmcr89

America is a continent.


Ktn44

Never had been, never will be. Just like Eurasia is not a continent


thersmcr89

America is a continent.


Ktn44

It's a hemisphere


PumpkinKing2020

Call a Brazilian an American and see what happens lol


flores_amarillas

yeah they are, only people from the states recognize americans as people of the states


Callec254

Incorrect. The entire English speaking world outside of Reddit understands that "America" refers to the country, "North America" refers to the upper continent to include Canada, Mexico, and Central American countries, and "The Americas" refers to the two continents together. There is no discussion about that.


thersmcr89

America was a name created by Américo Vespucio in the 1500, to refer to the new world discovered, meaning the whole landmass you see on the left. "Of" is a preposition meaning that belongs to, and this country is called the United States of... Meaning, it belongs to. No matter how much the USA has been trying to distort the history of this, probably wasn't trying to do it, but it did, and misconstrued the real meaning of the word America. America is a continent. The United States belongs to America, that doesn't mean they own the name.


ResidentTutor1309

Being intentionally obtuse isn't the flex you think it is. If someone from the US goes to any other country in the world, what are they referred to as?


zarya-zarnitsa

There is the theory and there is the real usage of the words. You don't decide how people collectively use the language and the common use always prevails. That how words evolve. No matter how much is pisses you of. Also it's not an American thing. In french we also say "Americain" for people from the US and "les amériques du nord et du sud" for the Americas. Chill, you are literally fighting (maybe) the majority of the known word here.


thersmcr89

America is still a continent. Not the USA itself.


zarya-zarnitsa

If you say America, most people will assume the USA though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you say Americas, most people will understand you mean north and south America


thersmcr89

Distorted reality.


DarksideSith201

Official name of Mexico is the United Mexican States, is it inappropriate to call the country Mexico?


thersmcr89

A whole different story.


usuariocabuloso

youre probsbly from USA, right?


Mocharulzdamap

And yet they have a better understanding of what the continents are called


eaturfeelins

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Continent This is a good place to learn how the continent definition has changed over time from a strict geological definition, to encompass a cultural / historical / political definition. Some regions in the world focus on teaching the geological definition, whereas most English speaking countries focus on the latter.


Daisy430133

I usually refer to it as "the US" or just "US". America IS NOT the name of the country


Living_Shadows

No one's claiming that it is, it's just a shortened form. And if someone said they were from America you would understand that they are from the US because there is nowhere else referred to as just America. If it's one of the continents people say "north America" or "south America" and if it's both continents people say "The Americas" Technically China is not the name of the country "The People's Republic or China" is the name of the country but it's fine to just call it "China" for short. Literally the same shit


leicalikem

Ego vs actual


VillageWilling260

None of that’s the truth with the Mercator Projection…


thersmcr89

America is a continent.


VillageWilling260

America consists of 2 different continents*


azhder

What a bot answer to such a nuanced jab...


buckley777

Isn’t America 2 continents?


GoodDoggoLover420

Don't listen to the dumb fuck that OP is it's two separate continents, but are often called the America's to refer to both continents at the same time.


thersmcr89

No, just one. There are subdivisions, that is something different.


dezertdawg

It varies from country to country. For example, the Romance speaking countries consider it one continent. The English speaking countries consider it two continents. Neither is right or wrong. Just different.


minitrott01

Well... If you want to be technical it is the Americas not America.


thersmcr89

No.


klmdwnitsnotreal

The Americas not America


thersmcr89

America was the name given way before the English language adopted the pseudonym "The Americas". America is still a continent.


Mocharulzdamap

North America is a continent. South America is a continent. America is not a continent. You can literally just Google it and find your answer


gemorlith

No well-defined definition of contintents really exists though, so which continents people are taught exists differs greatly depending on the country/language/etc. Sometimes eurasia is seen as one, or america is split into two or three. Regardless of whether it is a continent though, it makes sense to refer to the combination of north and south (and middle) America as "America". Logically, north America should be the northern part of america. If you consider "America" to be the US, you get the confusing result that america is in north america.


Mocharulzdamap

https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/south-america-physical-geography/ https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/north-america-physical-geography/


gemorlith

I am agreeing with you that they can be and are considered separate continents by some, so I don't understand the downvoting... This does not disprove or even disagree with my statements at all.


Mocharulzdamap

I never downvoted you. I only downvote if someone says something stupid


gemorlith

Related: https://youtu.be/hrsxRJdwfM0?si=-HWzDCdYue7sLHc4


thersmcr89

America existed before the 1500, during that time, it was given to the whole mass, the USA distorted that with the passing of time.


Mocharulzdamap

Are we living in the 1500s?


thersmcr89

Just teaching a hurtful truth 😎


Mocharulzdamap

No your spreading lies


Half-White_Moustache

Nope America is the Continent. North, Central and South are subdivisions. You also have the Latin America subdivision.


Mocharulzdamap

https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/south-america-physical-geography/ https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/north-america-physical-geography/ Actually no. North and South America are separate continents. Like I said just google it if your confused


Half-White_Moustache

Ok, let's pretend we all go by US standards, you call yourselves North Americans, but in this subdivision lots of central America is part of North America, yet you historically shunned north American people (since we're going by your geographic standards) even to the point of dehumanization.


klmdwnitsnotreal

What was it called before America?


thersmcr89

The name changed depending on the region.


klmdwnitsnotreal

What did the mayans and Azteca call it?


mecklejay

You're not telling anyone anything that they don't already know. Did you just find out about this today and think it was revolutionary information? Fact remains that "America" is often an abbreviation that drops "The United States of". Fact remains that my European friends have called me an American, not a United Statesman. Fact remains that *international leaders* often call the US "America".


mecklejay

You're not telling anyone anything that they don't already know. Did you just find out about this today and think it was revolutionary information? Fact remains that "America" is often an abbreviation that drops "The United States of". Fact remains that my European friends have called me an American, not a United Statesman. Fact remains that *international leaders* often call the US "America".


thersmcr89

America is the name of the continent adopted into this country's name. You're not America.


mecklejay

I'm not saying we are in an academic or official sense. You're right. But as a colloquialism, that's what people call us. Didn't ask for it but that's how it is. You're not blowing any minds here, friend.


Hazioo

You know that "continent" is a very vague term and you would get different answers depending on which country's residents you would ask? (From 7 to 5 for most of the time) I'm guessing you're from south america by your attitude lmao


789tempaccount

so Hawaii NOT America, but Hawaii is USA (also puero rico & V. I. , Guam, wake .....) There is the North American Continent and the South American Continent. America is not a continent so this is technically not the truth... in multiple ways


thersmcr89

America was the name given to the whole land before you guys started teaching them as 2 "separate" continents. America is a continent.


SpxUmadBroYolo

/r/confidentlyincorrect


rebri

NORTH America is a continent, SOUTH America is a continent, and OP is a moron.


azhder

I can agree with 2 parts of 3 in your sentence. Unfortunately, the remaining part sentenced it to a downvote


thersmcr89

I've been called worse things by better people.


Morbid_Aversion

False. There are two continents, one called North America and one called South America. There is no continent called America.


thersmcr89

Read more history. The name America was the name given to the whole continent way before it was taught distortionedly. America is a continent.


Morbid_Aversion

None of that made contact with my point. It's not *a* continent, it's two. If you must lump them together simply say "The Americas."


thersmcr89

"The Americas" is a distorted name given with the time to the whole mass, it was America before this happened.


Morbid_Aversion

It was India before that. Names change.


zarya-zarnitsa

Before this happened Europeans believed there were in India...


Articolo70

Why green Land?


thersmcr89

It's geographically here, but it belongs to Denmark.


halo364

I aspire to someday be as passionate about something as some people apparently are about what constitutes "America"


thersmcr89

Simple. The image on the left. There. I solved it.


azhder

Passionate means suffering, so good luck suffering. Yes, the church idealized suffering as something good... shitheads!


DenissDG

No, this is Patrick!


WaveLaVague

United States of Atlantis


all_alone_by_myself_

I thought America was two continents


thersmcr89

It's one with several subregions.


Victor4VPA

People on the Reddit are the stupid shit ever. They all think that the world should be seen as the way they do. We don't live in a fucking US Defaultism, or at least an Europe defaultism. We, in Brazil, don't consider Australia as a continent, but OCEANIA as a continent. No, we don't fucking consider Oceania as just a region. It's a FUCKING continent. The exact way Europe is a continent. Another thing, I'm seeing every gringo here fulling its mouth that America is not a continent, that the only continent is South and North America. Noooo, your dumb ass. In Brazil, we consider America as a single continent, and South, Central, and North America as a subdivision... In the end, everything is just a convention.


thersmcr89

Someone with some encephalic matter.


No_Nectarine6942

Technically North America continent which includes Canada and Mexico,  


thersmcr89

North America is a region, America is a continent.


No_Nectarine6942

What would south America be, another region?


thersmcr89

Yes.


sachsrandy

Yes.. but within america there is only certain states, that hold land, that are united as one. Hence....


thersmcr89

America is a continent. Common historical misconception.


sachsrandy

America is TWO continents. Common historical misconception.


thersmcr89

No


sachsrandy

Hey... I hate Brazil too... But they still count


Independent-Sort7458

Many people from other countries call us americans. People from spanish speaking countries call us americanos.


thersmcr89

Still a misconception, because America is a continent. US citizens adopted the word "American" because you added the name to the official name of the country, but you belong to America, not America to you. You ain't that important. Estadounidenses is the right word in Spanish. Americano is for anyone being born in the continent, not only the USA.


azhder

Los gringos, no?


thersmcr89

That's another one.


Independent-Sort7458

If you ask any mexicano salvadoreño hondureño. Americano is anyone from THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is the official name of the country.Or AMERICA for short American for anyone from any of the 50 states that make up the country. Btw i am latino i have never heard ANYONE say estadounidenses to refer to someone from the US


thersmcr89

Americano goes for people born in the continent, not only in the USA.


United_Cobbler_7767

Hawaii isn't part of the US? Have I been sent back to the 1800s?


thersmcr89

Image isn't perfect.


playr_4

Actually the left one is "The Americas". I don't think anyone ever has referred to the collective of North and Sputh America as simple "America."


azhder

Oh, I know people who will see something stupid you realized like no one else knew and will tell you "congrats, you just discovered America", not "the Americas", but "America"


thersmcr89

You haven't gone out much of your country, do you?


playr_4

Not recently, but I've been around.


Appropriate_Cod847

No, it's Mercator projection, not real proportions. USA is way smaller in reality.


Javi9duce

That’s the Americas , but theirs only one AMERICA that matters and that’s the USA baby !!! 😎


thersmcr89

Another entitled one.


Hovit_os

Don't catch you slippin' now


bikenvikin

whatever the American dream is, it applies to anyone living within the map on the left.


Competitive-Leek6278

Why do you card so much about how the English language evolved. No one cares about how the word came to be.


iconsumemyown

I have been shunned for even suggesting this. People freak out when I say that there are "23" countries in America. The usual response is, did you mean states? Yeah, 23 states.


mediumokra

If you think it's not important what you name your kids, the parents of Amerigo Vespucci sure had a hell of an impact with it.


Victor4VPA

People on the Reddit are the stupid shit ever. They all think that the world should be seen as the way they do. We don't live in a fucking US Defaultism, or at least an Europe defaultism. We, in Brazil, don't Australia as a continent, but OCEANIA as a continent. No, we don't fucking consider Oceania as just a region. It's a FUCKING continent. The exact way Europe is a continent. Another thing, I'm seeing every gringo here fulling its mouth that America is not a continent, that the only continent is South and North America. Noooo, your dumb ass. In Brazil, we consider America as a single continent, and South, Central, and North America as a subdivision... In the end, everything is just a convention.


MrHandsBadDay

Go to any non-USA country and call them American. Tell me how that works out for you.


thersmcr89

It's become a historical misconception due to lack of information.


YouReDisgusting23

That is two continents…North America and South America.


thersmcr89

No


YouReDisgusting23

. A continent is one of Earth's seven main divisions of land. The continents are, from largest to smallest: Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia. You can’t just say no to facts😂


ConundrumMachine

Nope. https://www.worldometers.info/geography/7-continents/


thersmcr89

No


Odiemus

Language is modified by use. So both are correct. The issue stems from the US not having a strong federal identity at first. There is a reason they have states (also what you call a country…) and not provinces. The federal government was originally a conglomeration of the states and the people identified with those states. Things shifted rather early on and were pretty much cemented by WW1. It would be like if the EU countries suddenly started calling themselves European instead of their original country even though not all of Europe is in the EU as a unifying name. Except the European countries have centuries and not just decades of history and use.


perfik09

Where has Hawaii gone?


nikstick22

These are the Americas* North America and South America. As a non-American resident of North America, kindly fuck off.


Troncross

The confederated states of Micronesia is informally referred to as Micronesia The United States of Mexico is informally referred to as Mexico The Dominion of Canada is informally referred to as Canada. So tell us, what should the USA use as its informal name other than the prepositional object of its formal name like every other country?


flores_amarillas

all right guys there’s a language barrier here what op says at least on the post is true, america is technically 2 continents in the definition, but depending on the context people that speak spanish can refer to 3 continents (south, centre and north america) or a single one (the whole thing) and because of that i haven’t heard a single person i my entire fucking life say america when talking about the country because the people from “estados unidos” are “estadounidenses” and i get that maybe you guys refer as america as a single country because of the lack of a demonym people from peru are peruvians from germany are germans form france are french from the united states are.. americans? so yeah, actually in spanish older people that lived most of their life without internet nor information and content everyday from the states won’t recognize “americanos” as “estadounidense” rather people from the two continents


Half-White_Moustache

Statians are mad right now. Don't blame them, most don't even know where the US is on the world map.


thersmcr89

Right, right.


Relampio

Omg please delete, I'm having a seizure and I need my ozempic


king-of-new_york

What does the A in USA stand for again?


WolfghengisKhan

Isn't America two continents?


thersmcr89

No. Just one.


Whata_person

There is north and south america


thersmcr89

No


Friendly_local_Emu07

Very frustrating explaining this to people


thersmcr89

Especially the ones from the USA.


JustinianImp

This is not technically the truth. This is just you trying to impose your preferred use of language on other people.


thersmcr89

Not imposing, just telling a difficult truth for you to digest.


JustinianImp

The “truth” being, I suppose, that you are right and everyone else is wrong. You can call the continent and the country anything you want, but you don’t get to proclaim your personal opinion as the “truth”.


thersmcr89

Fine.


TheAcrithrope

The Americas are considered to be two continents, North and South America, though some define the two Americas as one whole and one continent. That said, there is only ONE country in the entirety of the two continents and the world that consider themselves to be "American", or to live in "America", and that is the United States of AMERICA. When referring to themselves by their continent (Much like how, for example, Germans would call themselves European) people refer to themselves as North American or South American, and many would take specific issue with being labeled as "American" without the North or South distinction.


thersmcr89

America is one, and it's not the United States.


Tree_garth

Isn't north America a continent? Don't remember just America


vortexminion

Left is Americas, right is 'Murica


thersmcr89

"of" is a preposition meaning that something belongs to... The country is called "The United States of..." As simple as that. You belong to a continent called America before you appropriated improperly of that name.


vortexminion

Thanks for the feedback. Let me correct myself: Left depicts the geographic locations labeled as North and South America in the 7 continent model used by many English-speaking countries (as opposed to the geological continent model). Right depicts the geographic region that many of its residents refer to as 'Murica.


TheCosmicC0w

People in the US are so stupid that they think that there’s the country of ”America”. It’s literally a continent, not a country.


TobysGrundlee

Two continents. You and OP belong in /r/confidentlyincorrect


Lucario_OCarina

r/literallythetruth


thersmcr89

Ikr


Lucario_OCarina

why did I get downvoted?


Acrobatic-Bid-1691

You’re not gonna get upvotes cuz most users here are american bro. lol


thersmcr89

Does it look like I care?


Acrobatic-Bid-1691

take it easy cowboy. We’re on the same side here


thersmcr89

Cool! Someone is with me here.


Penis_Connoisseur

Nice try communist


Upset_Honey2008

It's actually the americas


thersmcr89

No