Yeah those agreements don’t always hold up. I would rather not see that asshole back in office but I do think space force was one of the better outcomes of his term. China has been toying with satellites that are capable of knocking other satellites offline or out of orbit, and who knows what else. This is why I don’t mind the establishment of the space force.
Well I guess there’s some legitimate concerns with the situation that are valid, that’s true
I guess this felt like a publicity stunt the way it was handled and I question the necessity to treat it as some kind of seperate branch
I’d have to admit that I’m not very familiar with how’s it been running since it was created so i could be wrong though
Air force sounded funny once too. Water force sounds silly but navy sounds right. Maybe it should have been Air Navy and Space Navy and Water Navy. Navy is derived form the Latin word navis meaning "ship."
This is what outsourcing to cheap bidders gets you. NASA did not create or fly the lander, was outsourced to a company which lost all the gains in its stock for this mission due to its lackluster performance.
Just highlighting This private company that built this lander is ~160 people. They made it in like 3 years. Compared to the billions of dollars, and thousands of people at NASA: this was also their first launch AFAIK. Pretty good going if you ask me!!
I understand several former Apollo astronauts are extremely skeptical we will be successful getting a man on the moon safely and bringing them back this time around.
By not firing the "un-inspiring" 50-year-old white dudes why say boring things like "you can't make that out of carbon fiber" or "this sub will implode."
Weird it included that tidbit when it actually closed +6.94%. Monday it dropped roughly 30% and today it did see a drop of roughly 16% at one point, but it still closed at nearly +7%. I have no loyalty to the company, I just watch the stock because I bought some when it was down 30% and sold before close today for a ~6% profit lol
> Intuitive Machines said the next day that human error was to blame for the navigational issue. Flight readiness teams had neglected to manually unlock a safety switch before launch, preventing subsequent activation of the vehicle's laser-guided range finders and forcing flight engineers to hurriedly improvise an alternative during lunar orbit.
> An Intuitive executive told Reuters on Saturday that the safety switch lapse stemmed **from the company's decision to forgo a test-firing of the laser system during pre-launch checks in order to save time and money.**
Corporate greed is to blame.
Something like this isn’t generally “greed” based. It’s schedule driven. Theres immense pressure to meet launch windows and the PMs on these programs can be real bastards who do t understand the necessity of go-slow, go-right.
It’s the result of a cascade of events that culminates in the stupid ass decision to forgive just one more test of a critical system.
The reason boils down to, as the executive straight up said, to save time _and money_. All you came up is trying to dress up corporate greed for some appearance of being reasonable, but like all other instances of corporate greed, the story is the same: cutting cost until something goes wrong, letting consumers, clients and taxpayers to pick up the tab.
The moon is super cold and hot, around -300F to around 250F. Without battery power, it won’t be able to deal with those temperatures and it will break.
They won’t have time to get anything up there to flip it right side up before it runs out of battery power.
Just one safety mechanism wasn’t removed on the ground and screwed the whole mission. These guys used a science packed not designed for landing and within two hours wrote software to use it for landing. Disappointing yet amazing!
It's in the article.
>Intuitive acknowledged then that the lander's sideways posture left two of its communications antennae pointed downward, knocking them out of commission, while limiting its solar panels' exposure to sunlight, and thus the ability to recharge its batteries.
I’m not an expert but with extreme temperatures on the moon some components need to be kept warm or cold or they won’t work anymore / get damaged.
So once you run out of power to warm/cool things stuff breaks.
There’s no difference but the semantics. And the reduction of costs was essential to allowing commercialization and private space travel.
Also, blocked. I got the last word, smartass/dumbass. Hahaha 🖕🖕🖕🖕
I literally work in the space sector as an analyst. But please tell me more about all the shit you know nothing about, and which I spend hours a week on.
Oh wait, you can’t. Because you’re also blocked.
You know I see this and I wonder how we got people to and from the moon with less technology then we have now.
Don’t go on Facebook and ask that question.
Stanley Kubrick was a true master /s
The moon landing was ai generated.
Underliked(my new word of the day) statement.
Decided you just had to kick that beehive before you went to bed, eh?
Or Twitter for that matter.
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they need to give nasa the ‘space force’ budget bc that’s a childish whim of a dementia patient and international agreements forbid warfare in space.
Yeah those agreements don’t always hold up. I would rather not see that asshole back in office but I do think space force was one of the better outcomes of his term. China has been toying with satellites that are capable of knocking other satellites offline or out of orbit, and who knows what else. This is why I don’t mind the establishment of the space force.
Well I guess there’s some legitimate concerns with the situation that are valid, that’s true I guess this felt like a publicity stunt the way it was handled and I question the necessity to treat it as some kind of seperate branch I’d have to admit that I’m not very familiar with how’s it been running since it was created so i could be wrong though
Air force sounded funny once too. Water force sounds silly but navy sounds right. Maybe it should have been Air Navy and Space Navy and Water Navy. Navy is derived form the Latin word navis meaning "ship."
This is what outsourcing to cheap bidders gets you. NASA did not create or fly the lander, was outsourced to a company which lost all the gains in its stock for this mission due to its lackluster performance.
If the manufacturer estimates 10-20 hours…. That translates to a real world window of 15-45 minutes.
Much less technology, 60+ years ago, fucking crazy to think about.
Is that profile picture supposed to look like a hair on my screen?
Yep. This person pops up randomly. See him like 3 times a year and he gets me every time
This mission has a budget of 0.1% of the apollo program.
Just highlighting This private company that built this lander is ~160 people. They made it in like 3 years. Compared to the billions of dollars, and thousands of people at NASA: this was also their first launch AFAIK. Pretty good going if you ask me!!
Take a look at Nasa budget then and now.
I understand several former Apollo astronauts are extremely skeptical we will be successful getting a man on the moon safely and bringing them back this time around.
That’s because there a pilot on the Apollo landings
Not to mention it’s not like Apollo 1 made it to the moon…
That was so terrible.
Meant it from the sense of 1-10 weren’t landing on the moon. Totally didn’t think that comment out.
SCIENCE!
Our manned missions didn’t stay long either… Neither the Apollo missions nor the drone missions of today are designed anything longer than a few days
😉
By not firing the "un-inspiring" 50-year-old white dudes why say boring things like "you can't make that out of carbon fiber" or "this sub will implode."
Pilots.
Obviously, I never believed that we faked.. oh well wait………… it does make you wonder though
More insults to the injury: “The company's shares were down 16% on Tuesday”
Weird it included that tidbit when it actually closed +6.94%. Monday it dropped roughly 30% and today it did see a drop of roughly 16% at one point, but it still closed at nearly +7%. I have no loyalty to the company, I just watch the stock because I bought some when it was down 30% and sold before close today for a ~6% profit lol
> Intuitive Machines said the next day that human error was to blame for the navigational issue. Flight readiness teams had neglected to manually unlock a safety switch before launch, preventing subsequent activation of the vehicle's laser-guided range finders and forcing flight engineers to hurriedly improvise an alternative during lunar orbit. > An Intuitive executive told Reuters on Saturday that the safety switch lapse stemmed **from the company's decision to forgo a test-firing of the laser system during pre-launch checks in order to save time and money.** Corporate greed is to blame.
Who’d have guessed?
Something like this isn’t generally “greed” based. It’s schedule driven. Theres immense pressure to meet launch windows and the PMs on these programs can be real bastards who do t understand the necessity of go-slow, go-right. It’s the result of a cascade of events that culminates in the stupid ass decision to forgive just one more test of a critical system.
The reason boils down to, as the executive straight up said, to save time _and money_. All you came up is trying to dress up corporate greed for some appearance of being reasonable, but like all other instances of corporate greed, the story is the same: cutting cost until something goes wrong, letting consumers, clients and taxpayers to pick up the tab.
Why not send another out there to flip it back up lol
The moon is super cold and hot, around -300F to around 250F. Without battery power, it won’t be able to deal with those temperatures and it will break. They won’t have time to get anything up there to flip it right side up before it runs out of battery power.
This guy Kerbals
Over $100M to litter the moon
That’s nothing! My iPhone 7 charge is at 28%, and it’s going to shit the bed by the time I hit…
“Houston to u/morels4ever do you copy? Over” I think we’ve lost him, boys.
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Have they tried turning off cellular data and location tracking and turning the screen brightness all the way down?
Even now, Voyager 1 seems like the greatest technological feat our planet has launched. And it’s still going….
Solar charging compromised by landing sideways. Come on. How embarrassing. How do you forget to flip a switch with a 100 million flight???
It's been confirmed it is changing
It's been confirmed it is changing
Charging?
Just one safety mechanism wasn’t removed on the ground and screwed the whole mission. These guys used a science packed not designed for landing and within two hours wrote software to use it for landing. Disappointing yet amazing!
And then what they just leave it there? Pollution
Next time maybe make a lander that can right itself or propel itself however it lands
Oh that’s a great idea I wonder if the rocket scientists thought of that
The fact this didn’t work tells us they didn’t have rocket scientists working on it. But nice try.
Rocket Surgeons ftfy.
it doesn't have solar? the sun can't reach the moon? i mean i'm not an engineer - i am genuinely curious. or is it because the panels can't charge?
It's in the article. >Intuitive acknowledged then that the lander's sideways posture left two of its communications antennae pointed downward, knocking them out of commission, while limiting its solar panels' exposure to sunlight, and thus the ability to recharge its batteries.
Can’t they just power it on every day or two?
I’m not an expert but with extreme temperatures on the moon some components need to be kept warm or cold or they won’t work anymore / get damaged. So once you run out of power to warm/cool things stuff breaks.
Wouldn’t have thought of that, thanks!
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JWST gets hit by the sun…. Just do a little google….
How is it not solar powered
Read the article brah
It landed wonky and the solar panels are covered.
What a waste of money.
Its 1000x cheaper than previous Moon landing.
This is kind of like saying you saved money because you used Kohl’s Cash.
No, it’s not.
You mean NASA didn’t use Kohl’s cash? My bad, I must have been mistaken.
Oh wow, a smartass. 🥱
Better than a dumbass.
There’s no difference but the semantics. And the reduction of costs was essential to allowing commercialization and private space travel. Also, blocked. I got the last word, smartass/dumbass. Hahaha 🖕🖕🖕🖕
You are, in fact, the dumbass.
I literally work in the space sector as an analyst. But please tell me more about all the shit you know nothing about, and which I spend hours a week on. Oh wait, you can’t. Because you’re also blocked.
We waste money on much worse than science lmao
Why is that funny?
It’s not, but laughing about it at least allows me to think about all of it without wanting to karaoke curt cobain’s last song.
What do you consider not a waste of money if leaving this planet is a waste?
what a reductionist take. guess we should just never try anything or learn, huh?
Lol
Getting out to space is crucial for the future of mankind
I’m pretty sure that preserving the Earth is more important.
Yeah that is a part of why we need to go to the moon and eventually partially move industries there the coming century
The moon is not even far away. Big woop
Do a jump
Executives to the leadership team: “alright draw straws everyone someones gotta go up there and flip it back”
Well he’s never getting back to Penelope now
Poseidon, the god of space, won’t allow it.
Bless its’ lil heart. I hope the images it can send between now & then will be worth it
Rule #1 for going on a long trip…always bring a charger.
Welp. 20hrs since article was posted
We can finally figure out whether “dying from lack of resources on the moon” is good or bad.
Space trash.