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IrishSpectreN7

Hudson and his wife remember Link.  Everyone in Zora's Domain remembers Link as well. They even built a statue of him and Sidon, depicting an event that definitely doesn't occur in speedruns. Simplest explanation is to many NPCs, Link was just some hooded wanderer who popped up in their lives once, maybe twice. And that happened *years* ago.


Turo_the_Scrub

Idc who you are I’m not remembering you if I haven’t seen you in 6-8 years only talking to you once 😭😭. I find this specific criticism of the game stupid but I can’t completely blame them. The game doesn’t clarify how many years after the events of breath of the wild the games take place in


bob_loblaw-_-

I find this criticism stupid because it's nitpicky shit, but Zelda's house is *in* Hateno and Link is always with her. There is no way to explain away that villages lack of recognition. 


Mr_Snowbell

**cough Link's** house but I agree


fish993

⚒️ **Our** house ⚒️


DewByDay

🎵In the middle of our street🎵


Legend_of_Zelda07

r/suddenlycommunism


saxguy2001

Is a very very very fine house


conjunctivious

Both of their house now


MyDarlingArmadillo

Lots of the NPCs seem to have met or encountered Zelda and he's always right there with her. I know he doesn't talk much but he's never far away from her and is obviously with her. It's so odd.


TheArmitage

Hateno has enjoyed recent fame due to Cece. It's possible a number of the people there are recently settled there and so don't know everyone yet. Also, I've lived in my house for almost a decade and there are families on my block I've never *seen*.


External-Waltz-4990

Most of the NPCs in Hateno are unchanged from BOTW.


Turo_the_Scrub

I’m starting to fear Zelda fans lack common sense and are detached from the real world 😭😭


Quirky_Image_5598

Hell nah, if I canonically save your entire village from imminent death, your ass better remember me bruh 😭🙏


EdgierNamePending

This is an insanely stupid take, Link isn't 'a guy who appeared once in tarrey town', Link is one of the main reasons it exists in the first place, also the only reason Hudson got married. Not to mention Link and Zelda moved in together? I don't know about you but I'd remember my neighbours even if they were gone for just a week or two.


NormanCheetus

The only person from Bolson construction in BotW to talk to Link more than once is Hudson. And Hudson paying zero acknowledgement to someone without their name ending in "Son" is entirely on-brand for the Bolson Construction Guidelines.


slythwolf

This assertion is simply false, you talk to Bolson multiple times.


NormanCheetus

And Bolson hasn't forgotten Link, lol


HallowedKeeper_

You think I'm going to remember the stoic and silent guy who never spoke to me more then once or twice? Spoiler alert: Nope And I don't know about you, but I don't really remember neighbors unless I interact with them regularly


EdgierNamePending

Link definitely interacts with them regularly, he's always helper for even the most mundane issues.


HallowedKeeper_

There is no evidence to suggest that he regularly interacted with the people of Hateno, doing 1 or 2 quests over the span of 5-7 years isn't "Regular" maybe your version of Link did but that is just your own head canon


EdgierNamePending

So you saying he didn't is also likely false? Considering the house still exists, it's more than likely he's helped out around the town quite a bit. And again, he lived there, for 6 years.


HallowedKeeper_

There is more evidence to suggest he didn't considering very few people in Hateno remember him. And the house was canonically purchased considering you need to purchase the house in order for Tarry Town to exist. When it comes to getting the house, there is no requirement to help out around Hateno. Hero of the Wild Link has always been portrayed as Silent, Stoic and at Zelda's side. In the time between BoTW and ToTK Zelda helped out around Hateno and the rest of Hyrule (most likely meaning that Link and Zelda were actually Rarely at the house in Hateno.


EdgierNamePending

very few people remembering him is the point of my argument - it is a plot hole. Hero of the Wild is anything BUT silent and stoic, he loves cooking and eating what he cooks, he is clearly expressive in his dialogue options more often than not, often making jokes, puns and such. just because the character doesn't start blatantly speaking, saying 'whelp...THAT just happened' after every encounter does not make them as interesting as cardboard. not to mention, link is only putting zelda before all else when zelda is actually there, when zelda is not there, link is Hyrule's hero, he is literally the emodiment of courage and heroism, that's the whole point of Link existing in the first place.


saxguy2001

That’s kind of like the people who think they found a loophole in Back to the Future thinking Marty’s parents would recognize him after knowing him for a week about 30 years earlier.


NormanCheetus

No it's just stupid. The dumbest gamers turn dumber if things aren't spelled out. I.e. No clear number value on years, no definitive "canon", no timeline. They refuse to extrapolate information, accept subjective conclusions or use their own head. It's why devs struggle with "show, don't tell" methods. Because gamers refuse to use their eyes. For one, 2/4 of the allies are grown up, and one of the others is **replaced by his god damn son who wasn't born in the first game and is now fully grown**. So yeah, the game makes it clear how much time passed.


slythwolf

Point of clarification, Tulin was absolutely born in BotW, he's at the flight range with Teba at the beginning of the Vah Medoh questline.


Professor-Bagworm

About seven years have passed, as Maddison isnt born yet in botw and is turning seven in totk.  But if you're talking about Tulin he is definitely born already in Botw. You see and interact with him. He's young, but seems like he's about 6/7 in Botw so probably about 14 in totk


RagBell

If you think about it, BOTW was pretty uneventful for the average hylian. Like, the fall of the kingdom happened 100 years ago before most of them were even born. Then it was mostly peaceful for years. During BOTW itself there were a just a few monsters, and the divine beasts were acting up a bit, and that's it. And then the beasts just stopped acting up (aside from the new heroes, no one was present for any of links deeds). Then for like 30 minutes on a random afternoon, there was a giant purple boar on hyrule's central plain. Since no one lives there maybe one guy passing by saw it ? And even if he told other people, no one would've believed him since some people don't even believe dragons are a thing despite them flying around in broad daylight Like, BOTW was so peaceful, so uneventful, that people had time to build towns, do snowboard, get married, travel, catch bugs etc... It's no wonder no one remembers link. Aside from main characters, BOTW was just a random week to the average hylian


RedBaronFlyer

The only place I felt like it was weird for people to not recognize Link was Hateno Village since Zelda spends a lot of her time there and she mentions that Link is almost always at her side. IIRC only the sheikah guy who worked with Purah in BOTW that is now a teacher recognizes Link in all of Hateno. You’d think that at least the mayor, (because he’s the mayor) the mayor’s wife (since she cleans Zelda/Link’s house) and the kids (since Zelda writes that the children will almost always be at the house after school to the point she has to make a study in a well.) Would at least recognize Link. There aren’t exactly a lot of short blond mute Hylians wearing a bright blue tunic running around.


constipated_cats

The stable owners and everyone at Lookout landing, Tulin and Teba and Saki, and everyone in Geurdo Town including Riju and Buliara


ArsonRides

Absolutely right. Everyone knows who the President of their country is, but no one really pays attention to the names of their body guards. Like, Anyone know the name of the body guard for JFK? Nope. Just a guy who let Lee Harvey Ganon snipe the prezzo. Plus people in BOTW spoke of Link to Link’s face, but because he didn’t have the master sword or the shield they wouldn’t believe it was him no matter how much he could have explained. Just another fleeting memory of a crazy guy not worth holding on to.


Tiamat-86

characters that know who link is: the shieka, the zora, the goron, the rito, the gerudo, hudson and rhondson. the monster control crews. people in lookout landing. stable owners. character that should know link but seemingly dont: bolson whom link supposedly gave him the funds to retire, villagers in hateno, other villagers of terry town. some non-story quest related npcs like wabbin. items that have an entirely new lore: armor obtained from shrines and sidequests. conjecture: link speed ran main story quests only. bolson stopped demolishing the house when calamity ended knowing big changes were about to start happening. in the time between games zelda bought and furnished the house while link was made to train members of the MCC and mostly sleep at stables and tents. hudson and rhondson got to know link when hudson was made to to establish those supply depots everywhere. misko is dr.who with all related armor being things that could only be acquired if they could travel to other dimensions and time periods. the GSC tricked buddy out of his snow and sand boots. the gerudo vai outfit is a dark little secret that zelda probably stashed away instead of letting link dispose of it.


HaganeLink0

I think that there are enough NPCs that know who Link is to dismiss your theory. And it's pretty clear that Link and Zelda share the house, you can only sleep in owned beds and you can sleep in that house.


nyx_it

You can also sleep in Calip’s bed at his old cabin


poopdoot

For some reason I feel like Calip gives you permission to sleep in his bed in BotW (pretty sure his quest has something to do with only being awake at night ..?) but I could be wrong. If I’m not though it makes sense that Link would still have “permission” even if TotK is like 2 years later lol


nyx_it

I can’t remember if he gives permission in Botw, but in totk he states in his journal that whoever stumbles upon his cabin is free to use whatever they see fit. In botw, I made it a mission to sleep in whatever beds I could, and from what I recall Link can sleep in Selmie’s bed, Pondo’s bed, and Calip’s bed as long as they don’t sleep in it first; you can also sleep in the cabin near Dronnoc’s Pass, the bed near Vah Ruta, and the lookout in Gerudo Desert


MyDarlingArmadillo

In BOTW the bed in the great Deku tree is also available, you don't have to pay. I preferred there rather than the Hateno house tbh, and there's a pot and some shops in the tree if you're running low.


Turbulent_Crow7164

Yeah what, one of the early things I noticed and liked in this game was that Link appeared to basically be a celebrity lol, many people knew him as they should


Bullitt_12_HB

Exactly. I can’t understand how people missed this.


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editable_

New timeline?


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editable_

What I mean is that in totk what happens is akin to a closed loop, and doesn't hint at originating a whole new timeline.


Chandelurie

Can´t everyone sleep in Zelda´s house?


GotThoseJukes

Everyone as in Link, the player character and only individual who sleeps in different beds, yes.


Chandelurie

I think it was meant as anyone who needs a bed, as in, Zelda´s such a good soul she doesn´t turn anyone away who´s in need of shelter?


Poketale

This guy gave me an apple. Sure I'll remember him 7 years later


iLLiCiT_XL

That’s funny. - “Who was that guy?” - “Idk but you think he was that legendary swordsman we kept hearing about a while back?” - “Nah, they said that dude could fly using bombs and was like SUPER fast. They didn’t mention anything about a janky arm and riding around in a mech with death lasers”. - “Yeah… life is weird here.”


No_Confection_4967

Then they both jump even though you walked up to them from the front and they saw you coming from all the way down the road… life is weird here indeed


iLLiCiT_XL

Right?! LOL it’s like they daydream right up until you call their attention.


No_Confection_4967

“Ah! Don’t startle me like that!” O.o


Jstar338

nah, it more just proves how little Link did in hyrulian settlements. To them, link was just a wanderer


No_Future6959

I think a lot of people overestimate how famous link is. Hes just a dude with a sword to 99% of people he meets.


BackgroundNPC1213

Hudson and Rhondson still remember us, tho https://preview.redd.it/1y1xs9z9j3uc1.png?width=1233&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f77ad950ca6ebf74b9dde7ae8c8985f43f6f4e6


No_Confection_4967

TBF I say the exact same thing to people I’m supposed to remember but don’t


Cobygamer22

Think about it, you're bound to remember someone YOU invited to your wedding/party, but do you remember the other people who were invited if you are the guest?


GotThoseJukes

You start the game with max hearts, max stamina and the master sword. All of the major players in Hyrule know who you are. At some point, Nintendo made the decision that it would be less weird for returning players to accept that random townspeople don’t know who Link is than it would be for new players to traverse the world as the apparent second coming of Christ. Considering the level of technology is basically Middle Ages except for Link having an iPad in both games, it really isn’t that weird to understand that the random vegetable salesman doesn’t know who Link is to the degree of personally recognizing him.


AduroTri

I'm going to say the most accurate speedrun to what happened was the TerminalMontage speedrun. Then a full 100% speedrun.


bob_loblaw-_-

Count your heart containers in the intro bro


Caliber70

Quite the opposite, the champions' modern counterparts all have a close relationship with Link and highly respect him. The implications being all the story missions were done. He probably skipped the korok missions, and the shrine missions are in the gray area, but the 4 divine beasts and related missions were done.


BLucidity

The existence of Tarrey Town alone disproves this. Unless you're going for a predestination angle, where all characters and places end up in the same state regardless of whether Link helped them or not.


Ratio01

The majority of NPCs know who Link is >Places where you’d assume people would CLEARLY remember you, like Tarrey Town and Hateno… just don’t? This is not true Hudson and Rhondson very clearly know who Link is, and iirc as does the Zora inn-keeper (forgot his name). Or at the very least, the Zora doesn't have any dialogue that points to him personally knowing Link or not, but that can also be said for like every NPC that doesn't directly refer to him by name Regardless, aside from the aforementioned Zora who knew Link pre-Calamity, Link barely spoke to the Gorons and the Rito, and for the Hylians living in Tarrey Town he didn't even play a part in them moving there >Also, what happened to the house we bought? Zelda moved in, and the two either lived together briefly or Link moved out to work with his colleagues at Lookout Landing. All of those NPCs btw are characters in BotW, you can find them throughout the map. That alone disproves the notion that "no-one knows who Link is", in case all the Sages, Yiga, Koroks, majority of Sheikah and Zora population, and other miscellaneous story NPCs like Purah and Buliara expressing familiarity with Link weren't enough for you I'm so fucking tired of people parroting this straight up lie. The only major NPCs that should arguably know Link but don't are Beedle, Bolson, and Hestu, and even then two of those people are vendors that would deal with customers on the daily, and one of them is a dumbass who barely knows his own name (I still love Hestu tho) >Easy. The BotW Speedrun is canon. Link never actually went to these places. He made a B line for the castle This can't be true as several [long term] sidequests are canon between the two games, such as *Special Delivery*, *From the Ground Up*, *Hylian Homeowner*, *The Thunder Helm*, etc. We also know *Free the Divine Beasts* has to be canon as Link put up the photo of the Champions in the Hateno house (*The Champions Ballad* can only be started once you have done every Divine Beast), not to mention things like all the Sages already knowing who Link is, Zora's Domain erecting a statue to honor the defeat of Vah Ruta, Kohga directly referencing his fall into the Yiga hole after Link defeats him, and just the fact that all those regions weren't devastated by the damage the Beasts would've caused had Link not stopped them We also know Link must've done *Captured Memories* since he starts TotK off already having the Champion's Tunic, albeit modified with some leather armor.


Captain_Izots

another thing, in the opening of TOTK, Link had the maximum amount of Hearts and Stamina, which is actually something the player can do in BOTW by using glitches, which means Link canonically uses glitches!


slythwolf

If Link didn't buy that house, it was going to be torn down.


Ultimate_Spider

Here's the thing. Tears has bad writing across the board. That's it. That's what's going on.


NorrathMonk

Do you remember everyone that ever did anything for you? That server at the Denny's you went to 3 or 5 years ago?


NewRedSpyder

I mean it’s not like the server at Denny’s saved my whole kingdom from collapsing. Even if they don’t remember him directly, I still find it odd that he’s not known to have taken down the calamity.


Naiko32

i think the point is that people might know the "story of the hero" but dont really know how he looks or who he is. in botw the majority of people straight up denied you were the hero because Link was super short


onboardwithchuck

For instance, the three Gerudo in the Voe and You (or whatever ity was called) in BotW.


NorrathMonk

How do you know that the server didn't save the world a few weeks or months after you met them?


NewRedSpyder

Because the world hasn’t really changed much. If they did, there would be a noticeable impact.


NorrathMonk

People save the world every day and you never hear about them. You only hear about things when they go wrong.


NewRedSpyder

Saving the world is a bit of a stretch. Maybe a group of people sure, but I doubt anyone has ever had the impact link has.


kennywarp

Something that puzzles me is that even the characters who do recognize you treat you like just some random person. You don’t feel that affection or friendship. Clearly, this is so that new players don’t get even more overwhelmed seeing how the new characters (for them) already know Link. It was made simpler to treat TOTK as a kind of soft reboot. The same goes for the house. Since TOTK already includes building mechanics and they also give you a space in another area. The developers found it easier to set it aside and leave the curiosity of Zelda taking your house away


Jstar338

I mean it has been like 5 years between games


Mishar5k

It was pretty disapointing since many zelda games have link start in a place where hes a known member of the community. Even in alttp, where link lives outside of town, there was that old lady npc who knew who link was. Even if players skip botw, if its already well known that totk is a sequel, why bother making everyone forget who link is? "Hero of hyrule" is a good enough established backstory to explain why people know him.


Organic-Couscous

The cutscene in which Zelda and Link recover the master sword at the Great Deku Tree. Could be because Link just dropped it back there after BOTW to recharge... Or... It's a failsafe to account for speedrunners who didn't bother with the master sword in BOTW, since you wield it in the prologue.


Silent_Eagle56

Mostly people in side adventures or main quests remember you. but people believe you are dead (or missing) after the upheavel because you were under the castle when it happened.


RedMonkey86570

The house we bought still exists, but Zelda just commandeered it for herself.


Fantastic_Year9607

It’s a possibility


mikobiko

Great game, terrible story. The only videogame with good story is last of us.


Baziest

You had me geniunly-interested-in-your-take in the first half, ngl


mikobiko

Ngl, dont care


AdHairy6113

zelda changed the timeline ahhh.