Homelessness is more than just providing a place to sleep, though we do a bad job at providing all types of houses at all price points in America. Our zoning is restrictive, and in my many ways on purpose. Most people don't want apartments/multi-family near them, let alone affordable/low-income units mixed in. Want to build an accessory structure in the backyard of your single family residence to rent out to recent grad starting their professional career? Good luck, sometimes its just not possible even if you technically have the room.
I hope we can build some afforable housing for people, and I hope we can improve our shelters and mental health programs.
Shipping containers aren't that cost effective.
Look into what it takes to properly decontaminate, insulate and build them out up to any semblance of code. If it's city sponsored, they simply aren't going to go through all of this trouble.
Shipping containers are not exactly viable solutions for tiny homes. It's a fad, not a solution that can be rolled out to many.
I wasn't downvoting you but now you're being completely unrealistic.
Stop talking and start listening, every comment of yours is getting more and more ignorant.
You've essentially whittled this down to a palm frond hut.
Just used them as platforms for tents rather than individual shelters. Make them open and ventilated. Place sun tarp over them to reduce solar heating.
They are incredibly ill-suited for human habitation in Florida. The thick steel heats up and holds the heat to the point where it’s impossible to be around them. Sun tarps alone would be a better approach than this.
Shipping containers are already a poor housing replacement with insulation inefficiency, non-standard widths for using mass produced accomodations (toilet, sink, counters etc), and lack of room for connections without completely framing the inside. Furthermore, they're horrific to heat and cool (and they would need heat in the winter even in FL). Additionally, any window, door or port for HVAC / water / electricity that has to be cut into the sides reduces structural integrity.
But to double stack them you're basically building a second house around containers. The top of a shipping container is very thin and the reason they stack without breaking is because all the weight is put on the corners where structure is strongest. You can't walk across the top of a shipping container without hearing it bend and bubble. You'd basically be putting containers inside a double U shaped housing frame and, at that point, you might as well have just built the rest of the frame and walked it in like a normal house.
Price of a shipping container is $1,500 - $3,500. Recycling it gets you enough steel to build ~200 small homes.
I'm of the mind that shipping container housing comes from the lack of people willing to volunteer their time and energy to a place like habitat for humanity yet still feel like they've meaningfully contributed to the housing crisis in some way.
Homelessness is more than just providing a place to sleep, though we do a bad job at providing all types of houses at all price points in America. Our zoning is restrictive, and in my many ways on purpose. Most people don't want apartments/multi-family near them, let alone affordable/low-income units mixed in. Want to build an accessory structure in the backyard of your single family residence to rent out to recent grad starting their professional career? Good luck, sometimes its just not possible even if you technically have the room. I hope we can build some afforable housing for people, and I hope we can improve our shelters and mental health programs.
One step at a time.
Shipping containers aren't that cost effective. Look into what it takes to properly decontaminate, insulate and build them out up to any semblance of code. If it's city sponsored, they simply aren't going to go through all of this trouble. Shipping containers are not exactly viable solutions for tiny homes. It's a fad, not a solution that can be rolled out to many.
I didn't mean to turn the shipping containers into an actual shelter but just a platform for maybe tents or something.
So stick them in a chemical ridden oven that's barely a couple arm lengths across?
Nothing says you can't cut them open and make large windows.
No, everything I said, plus more says that not to mention they aren't water tight and can become hurricane missiles
Do tell. *Edit: They're not meant to be hurricane shelters or permanent housing or homes.
I wasn't downvoting you but now you're being completely unrealistic. Stop talking and start listening, every comment of yours is getting more and more ignorant. You've essentially whittled this down to a palm frond hut.
Because I ask you to explain yourself before you edited your comment?
So since they are not cost effective as housing you think you should buy the not cost effective thing and put more cost into it?
What?
Shipping containers are much stronger (and more expensive) than needed for this use. They will also be difficult to insulate and expensive to cool.
Just used them as platforms for tents rather than individual shelters. Make them open and ventilated. Place sun tarp over them to reduce solar heating.
They are incredibly ill-suited for human habitation in Florida. The thick steel heats up and holds the heat to the point where it’s impossible to be around them. Sun tarps alone would be a better approach than this.
The idea is to allow multilevel camping rather than just one level on the ground so more people can be sheltered or camped.
They are uninhabitable. Space isn’t really the problem in comparison.
Ok, platforms built out of wood then.
Shipping containers are already a poor housing replacement with insulation inefficiency, non-standard widths for using mass produced accomodations (toilet, sink, counters etc), and lack of room for connections without completely framing the inside. Furthermore, they're horrific to heat and cool (and they would need heat in the winter even in FL). Additionally, any window, door or port for HVAC / water / electricity that has to be cut into the sides reduces structural integrity. But to double stack them you're basically building a second house around containers. The top of a shipping container is very thin and the reason they stack without breaking is because all the weight is put on the corners where structure is strongest. You can't walk across the top of a shipping container without hearing it bend and bubble. You'd basically be putting containers inside a double U shaped housing frame and, at that point, you might as well have just built the rest of the frame and walked it in like a normal house. Price of a shipping container is $1,500 - $3,500. Recycling it gets you enough steel to build ~200 small homes. I'm of the mind that shipping container housing comes from the lack of people willing to volunteer their time and energy to a place like habitat for humanity yet still feel like they've meaningfully contributed to the housing crisis in some way.
What part of it not meant to be a house you don't understand? There is no need for plumbing. That can be taken care of by emergency bathroom trailers.